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Ron in Regina

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FACT CHECK YOUR HASBARA!!!
Ok. Quick question though…🤔…or two.
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This lying shit has been going on for two fucking years.
What is an “Israeli Settler Bulldozer?” and what was it doing in Gaza?🙄Was it “Settling” in Gaza? Does this count as two questions or three questions (?) or is it four questions including this question about my questions?

Interestingly, & maybe this is one of those Hasbara things, but in trying to look into this, it seems that every mention of a bulldozer running over ordinance in Gaza, always ties back to quoting the same guy?

Journalist Ryan Grim from Drop Site News reported that both the White House and the Pentagon were quickly informed that the explosion in southern Gaza, which killed two 'Israeli' soldiers, was caused by a bulldozer operated by an 'Israeli' settler company running over unexploded ordnance, not by a Hamas tunnel attack as claimed by 'Israeli' Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

So, and trying to fact check the Hasbara, and maybe it it’s because I’m tired but, I tried changing my question a little bit thinking maybe I can come up with the answer by asking a slightly different question like, “What would an Israeli Settler Company be doing in Gaza” to come up with the bulldozer answer…
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And it hits on “Drop Site News.” (?)
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Maybe this is just one of those coincidences again? A Hasbara coincidence, or maybe not, ‘cuz who owns Google?
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That’s it!! Google is a Jewish Hasbara Conspiracy! It’s proven fact now!!! 😉
 

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Ok. Quick question though…🤔…or two.

What is an “Israeli Settler Bulldozer?” and what was it doing in Gaza?🙄Was it “Settling” in Gaza? Does this count as two questions or three questions (?) or is it four questions including this question about my questions?
Exactly. What was it doing in Gaza during a ceasefire? Another war crime. Its settler (illegal alien) demolition contractors from the West Bank.

Buried deep in Aussie ABC news

On Sunday, the IDF accused Hamas of opening fire on troops in the southern Gaza city of Rafah using anti-tank weapons. Two Israeli soldiers were killed.

Reports have surfaced that the real cause of the deaths had been an Israeli bulldozer driving over unexploded ordnance, but the Israeli military and government have rejected that.

US steps up diplomacy as Israeli strikes test Gaza ceasefire - ABC News https://share.google/TQOLYkxfuhWxgepz6

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It’s officially now a Jewish Conspiracy something something…for sure ‘cuz!! Did you know Google was owned by da’Jews?
I asked Google the same question.

Always those Jews is it? Are they really Jews though?
What is an “Israeli Settler Bulldozer?” and what was it doing in Gaza?🙄Was it “Settling” in Gaza?
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This lying shit has been going on for two fucking years.
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Did the Egypt, Tukiye and UAE stabilzation force show up yet?
Ok, so…I don’t know. I don’t think anybody’s showing up yet actually inside of Gaza, but I could be wrong. I’m not even sure if Turkey is gonna be part of that stabilization force (rebuilding…probably, international peacekeeping force? Don’t know yet).
What's left to do? They don't have to disarm until the security force arrives and Israel makes an exodus from Gaza. If need be it won't be US or Israel dealing with Al Qassam, it'll be Turkiye.
(YouTube & FDD Turkey Program Director Sinan Ciddi on Turkey's role in Gaza's reconstruction)
 

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Countries would reject being asked to "enforce" peace in Gaza if deployed under the Trump ceasefire plan, King Abdullah of Jordan has told the BBC.

"What is the mandate of security forces inside of Gaza? And we hope that it is peacekeeping, because if it's peace enforcing, nobody will want to touch that," said King Abdullah in an exclusive interview for BBC Panorama.

"Peacekeeping is that you're sitting there supporting the local police force, the Palestinians, which Jordan and Egypt are willing to train in large numbers, but that takes time. If we're running around Gaza on patrol with weapons, that's not a situation that any country would like to get involved in."
The King's comments reflect concern from the US and other nations about being dragged into a continuing conflict between Hamas and Israel, or Hamas and other Palestinian groups. According to the UN, peace enforcement uses coercive measures including military force, while peacekeeping operates with the consent of the parties to a conflict and troops only use force in self-defence and defence of their mandate.

Under US President Trump's 20-point peace plan, Arab states and international partners are to commit stabilisation forces that "will train and provide support to vetted Palestinian police forces in Gaza, and will consult with Jordan and Egypt who have extensive experience in this field." Hamas is to disarm and give up political control of the territory.

However Hamas has not yet disarmed and has mobilised thousands of fighters to reassert its grip on parts of the territory, Israel has carried out air strikes and other Palestinian armed groups are reportedly operating in parts of Gaza under Israeli control.
 

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Countries would reject being asked to "enforce" peace in Gaza if deployed under the Trump ceasefire plan, King Abdullah of Jordan has told the BBC.

"What is the mandate of security forces inside of Gaza? And we hope that it is peacekeeping, because if it's peace enforcing, nobody will want to touch that," said King Abdullah in an exclusive interview for BBC Panorama.

"Peacekeeping is that you're sitting there supporting the local police force, the Palestinians, which Jordan and Egypt are willing to train in large numbers, but that takes time. If we're running around Gaza on patrol with weapons, that's not a situation that any country would like to get involved in."
The King's comments reflect concern from the US and other nations about being dragged into a continuing conflict between Hamas and Israel, or Hamas and other Palestinian groups. According to the UN, peace enforcement uses coercive measures including military force, while peacekeeping operates with the consent of the parties to a conflict and troops only use force in self-defence and defence of their mandate.

Under US President Trump's 20-point peace plan, Arab states and international partners are to commit stabilisation forces that "will train and provide support to vetted Palestinian police forces in Gaza, and will consult with Jordan and Egypt who have extensive experience in this field." Hamas is to disarm and give up political control of the territory.

However Hamas has not yet disarmed and has mobilised thousands of fighters to reassert its grip on parts of the territory, Israel has carried out air strikes and other Palestinian armed groups are reportedly operating in parts of Gaza under Israeli control.
Pakistan is possibly in now. So 2 non-Arab nations so far. Pakistan does not like Israel at all and has nukes. Inspected and admitted to nukes.
 

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Pakistan is possibly in now. So 2 non-Arab nations so far. Pakistan does not like Israel at all and has nukes. Inspected and admitted to nukes.
Pakistan is currently fighting with its neighbours to the north & south of it, and it ‘dislikes’ Israel (which is code for?) as per….you…so it sounds like the perfect candidate to help bring peace, right?

You’d think, or at least the average person would think, that one of these “peace keeping” or “International Stabilization Force” or what have you, would at a minimum recognize both entities (I’d say country’s but Palestine hasn’t happened yet, has it?) involved to exist right? Where does Pakistan stand on that?
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Former Pakistani president and military dictator Pervez Musharraf stated that Pakistan will recognize Israel if the latter withdraws its forces from some of the occupied territories and allows the remaining Palestinian land to continue to exist, within the Green Line that served as the international border between the occupation force, Israel, and the Palestine from the First Arab–Israeli War of 1948 to the Third Arab–Israeli War of 1967 — however successive governments have rejected recognizing Israel.

Not even pretending to have fake outrage over that mid-1967 kerfuffle where Jordan attacked Israel, and lost, but at least they’re honest about it I guess, so they’ve got that going for them.
 

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Pakistan is currently fighting with its neighbours to the north & south of it, and it ‘dislikes’ Israel (which is code for?) as per….you…so it sounds like the perfect candidate to help bring peace, right?

You’d think, or at least the average person would think, that one of these “peace keeping” or “International Stabilization Force” or what have you, would at a minimum recognize both entities (I’d say country’s but Palestine hasn’t happened yet, has it?) involved to exist right? Where does Pakistan stand on that?
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Former Pakistani president and military dictator Pervez Musharraf stated that Pakistan will recognize Israel if the latter withdraws its forces from some of the occupied territories and allows the remaining Palestinian land to continue to exist, within the Green Line that served as the international border between the occupation force, Israel, and the Palestine from the First Arab–Israeli War of 1948 to the Third Arab–Israeli War of 1967 — however successive governments have rejected recognizing Israel.

Not even pretending to have fake outrage over that mid-1967 kerfuffle where Jordan attacked Israel, and lost, but at least they’re honest about it I guess, so they’ve got that going for them.
The problem is everyone recognizes genocide. Nobody is going to be friendly to Israel.

Its 2025 Ron.
 
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The problem is everyone recognizes genocide. Nobody is going to be friendly to Israel.

Its 2025 Ron.
I don’t think everybody recognizes it to be honest. They recognize it when they can say it’s Israel…& yes, I’m aware of the year.
 

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I don’t think everybody recognizes it to be honest. They recognize it when they can say it’s Israel…& yes, I’m aware of the year.
Who doesn't recognize a genocide when they see one and when the perpetrators admit to it?

Its not that they don't recognize it, they are just unable to accept it.

Are you able to accept it?
 
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Who doesn't recognize a genocide when they see one and when the perpetrators admit to it?
Are you looking for a list of “What abouts…?” Because we both have Google.
Its not that they don't recognize it, they are just unable to accept it.
Who’s they? And are you talking about the Sudan? Or the Christians in Nigeria or Syria? Perhaps Yemen, etc…? I’m seriously doubting it, but just thought I’d ask.
Are you able to accept it?
Accept what specifically? Genocidal intentions? Or the absolute single focus?
 

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Are you looking for a list of “What abouts…?” Because we both have Google.
Check your google for "Genocide Gaza Israel"

What did it say? Do you think it will change?
Who’s they? And are you talking about the Sudan? Or the Christians in Nigeria or Syria? Perhaps Yemen, etc…? I’m seriously doubting it, but just thought I’d ask.
You tell me who "they" (people who don't recognize the genocide in motion) are. Its your claim not mine so why ask me?
Accept what specifically? Genocidal intentions? Or the absolute single focus?
Accept that Israel is committing a genocide.

Do you accept the fact or....?
 

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Check your google for "Genocide Gaza Israel"
Well, it wasn’t the top of the list, but it was in the list with your Google suggestion:
What did it say? Do you think it will change?
Well, I did post a link but…
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You tell me who "they" (people who don't recognize the genocide in motion) are. Its your claim not mine so why ask me?
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Accept that Israel is committing a genocide.
If they are, are they the only ones, even in just this goat rodeo, or are they the only ones who can be guilty of this accusation?
Do you accept the fact or....?
I accept many facts from many sources and directions. How about yourself?

Why do you think the Israelis, in their war against Hamas, have repeatedly over the last two years, warned the civilian population in advance to relocate away from areas that they would target against Hamas over and over and over?

Why do you think, with Hamas hiding amongst and underneath the population of Gaza using them as human shields, that the ratio of civilian casualties, when it’s all said and done, against Hamas (& friends) combatants will be as low as it actually is? What does the Hamas controlled Gaza Health Authority say about this ratio?

Why do you think Israel didn’t start & finish this in the first month of this long before Christmas of 2023? Yes, Israel responded militarily to the Hamas (& friends) attack on Israeli Oct 7th 2023, on the battlefield chosen by Hamas. What choice was Israel, as a sovereign nation, given on that day?
Boohoo for Israel.
Yeah. I think they’ve had quite enough, and yet have shown much restraint throughout this.
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Described as a Third Intifada by some observers, it is the first direct conflict within widely recognized Israeli territory since the country's founding. Hostilities were initiated by a rocket barrage against Israel and vehicle-transported incursions into Israeli territory, with a number of attacks having been carried out on the Israeli military as well as Israeli civilian communities.

The assault has been led by the Palestinian militant groups, including Hamas, Islamic Jihadand PFLP. The Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbasverbally supported the uprising, stating that Palestinians had the right to defend themselves against the Israeli occupation.

The United Nations Special Coordinator for the Middle East Peace Process, the European Union, and many individual member nations voiced condemnation of the attacks and said Israel had the right to self-defense.

At least 2,200 rockets were fired from the Gaza Stripas Hamas militants breached the Gaza–Israel barrier, killing at least 250 Israelis and prompting Israel's government to declare a state of emergency; Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu stated that Israel "is at war" in a national address following the beginning of the attacks.
 

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Who is up on charges?
Well, there are allegations against Israel, and Hamas, and China, and Miramar, and Russia, and Sudan, and several others currently, but that’s not the answer you’re looking for, is it?

What are the charges that the individuals from those nations, or the one nation you’re singling out, are actually charged (not convicted) of?

The International Criminal Court (ICC) has issued arrest warrants for Netanyahu and Gallant on charges of war crimes and crimes against humanity, including causing starvation to civilians…but…October 7, 2023 attack by Hamas and other militant groups on Israel have led to actual genocide allegations. Is that what you’re fishing for?

Since Israel’s inception in 1948, it’s been accused of genocide against the Palestinians…who in 1948 numbered roughly 1.2 million and today number roughly 14 million with about 1/2 of those living in Gaza or what’s now called the West Bank, and about 1/2 living in other countries including the 2 million or so living in Israel.

Now, whom are the three authors of the UN report that accuses Israel of genocide?
1761825357019.jpeg1) Miloon Kothari
2) Chris Sidoti
3) Navi Pillay

Who are they? Are they unbiased and impartial judges with respect to this report?

The first is Miloon Kothari, a man condemned in 2022 for his blatant antisemitism by the UN Secretary General and every major Western Democratic Country. Even the head of UNHRC called him an antisemite which is akin to being labeled a Jew hater by Joseph Goebbels.

The second of the three ‘independent’ members is Chris Sidoti, a retired left wing Australian lawyer on the council of the Australian Centre for International Justice (ACIJ). They describe Israel as a “settler-colonial apartheid regime” and support the Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions (BDS) movement. Like Kothari, he was condemned for his blatant antisemitism in 2023.

The third member of the ‘independent’ UNHRC commission that accused Israel of genocide is its Chair, Navi Pillay. A South African ANC activist she has in the past accused Israel of ‘Palestinian organ stealing’, ‘genocide’, ‘targeting children’ and, of course, being an “apartheid regime”.

Her commission, has over the years been labelled a "kangaroo court" by the U.S., UK, Germany, Australia, Italy, and others for its "open-ended mandate" and "disproportionate focus on Israel" amid other global humanitarian crises. Judge for yourself whether she’s independent.

Oh yeah, the three of them resigned in July 2025 in a move designed to avoid the US sanctioning them on account of the transparent weaponisation of the commission against Israel. Those resignations took effect this month in October which explains the timing of their self described ‘independent report’ but that might not be the answer you’re looking for here either.
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Within three days of October 7th, 2023 Pillay's Commission of Inquiry (COI) claimed it had evidence of Israeli crimes, and shouted the ultimate obscenity: the slaughter of Jews was the fault of the Jewish state. The victims were to blame. 'The root cause of the conflict,' Pillay's COI said, was Israel’s 'illegal occupation.'

Moreover, Pillay and her COI actually promoted terror. They gave Hamas the political backing to carry on. On October 30, 2023 Pillay said in an interview to Al Jazeera of Palestinian terrorists: 'they are actually forced to resort to armed struggle.' At the same time, in October 2023 Pillay's COI told the General Assembly that Israel has no UN Charter right of self-defense."

In October 2023, less than a month after the Hamas terrorist organization massacred 1,200 people in southern Israel, Pillay and Sidoti, speaking on behalf of the commission of inquiry, claimed that Israel's right to defend itself in the wake of the massacre was in doubt.

Sidoti stated that "one difficulty that it seems is not being properly addressed in discussing the right to self-defense in those terms, under Article 51 of the UN Charter, is that that’s predominantly framed in terms of an attack by another state upon the first state and defending against state action."

According to him, because Israel does not recognize the State of Palestine, "it may be for that reason that the State of Israel cannot claim to act under Article 51 when it is being attacked not by a state, but by a non-state actor."

Navi Pillay, the chairwoman of the Commission of Inquiry, said that the commission would "examine issues such as the right of defense," but stated that Israel's response to the massacre committed earlier that month was "much more retaliation and revenge."

Pillay claimed that even in October 2023, there was "no direct threat to individuals from Israel" since the Hamas invasion of southern Israel was fought back in the days following October 7, ignoring the thousands of rockets that had been fired at Israel every day since the massacre and the repeated attempts to infiltrate Israel again by smaller cells of terrorists, as well as Hamas officials vows to continue carrying out massacres like the one committed on October 7.
These are the authors of the report that the ICC is basing its arrest warrants for Netanyahu and Gallant on. Not such a “got’cha” question as you might’ve thought it was, is it?