The New York Declaration.

[Ron in Regina]

Go cry somewhere else.

Yeah, you do realize that, I don’t think anyone here is crying, or are either Palestinian or Israeli, and this is more of an abstract topic and concept to debate, right?

On that note, I’ve got a few questions since you’re the expert here deciding what is or isn’t relevant, what does or doesn’t matter, and so on and so forth, etc…

1) In that New York Declaration on Palestine 18 page Micro-pdf attachment, with its 142 countries that support the creation of a Palestinian state, how many of those 142 countries still don’t recognize the Israeli state that’s existed since 1948?

2) What in that 18 page PDF on the 7 page declaration details (or at least outlines) the enforcement mechanism tied to this declaration? You speak as if someone somehow is going to evict Israel from what’s currently (since Jordan renamed it after they annexed it) called the West Bank. How do you envision that taking place and enforced in what manner?

3) The same declaration also states that the PA (after its reformed, their statement & not mine) will eventually govern Gaza, & that Hamas will have nothing to do with the governance of Gaza. Is this point in this declaration optional or negotiable?

4) The same declaration also states that Hamas would be disarmed. Is that point in this declaration optional or negotiable?

5) If these above points are optional or negotiable, then are other points in that same declaration optional or negotiable?

6) “They” (whomever “they” are) aren’t “fucking around” anymore in what way?

 

[petros]

Yeah, you do realize that, I don’t think anyone here is crying, or are either Palestinian or Israeli, and this is more of an abstract topic and concept to debate, right?

On that note, I’ve got a few questions since you’re the expert here deciding what is or isn’t relevant, what does or doesn’t matter, and so on and so forth, etc…

1) In that New York Declaration on Palestine 18 page Micro-pdf attachment, with its 142 countries that support the creation of a Palestinian state, how many of those 142 countries still don’t recognize the Israeli state that’s existed since 1948?

2) What in that 18 page PDF on the 7 page declaration details (or at least outlines) the enforcement mechanism tied to this declaration? You speak as if someone somehow is going to evict Israel from what’s currently (since Jordan renamed it after they annexed it) called the West Bank. How do you envision that taking place and enforced in what manner?

3) The same declaration also states that the PA (after its reformed, their statement & not mine) will eventually govern Gaza, & that Hamas will have nothing to do with the governance of Gaza. Is this point in this declaration optional or negotiable?

4) The same declaration also states that Hamas would be disarmed. Is that point in this declaration optional or negotiable?

5) If these above points are optional or negotiable, then are other points in that same declaration optional or negotiable?

6) “They” (whomever “they” are) aren’t “fucking around” anymore in what way?

They arent suggestions. These are demands and its not on YOUR timeline. Why would you think its on your timeline?

Israel fucked up so bad the world said "fuck this noise" and is pulling "the plug" on them including our own country. Don't like it, call your MP. IM NOT YOUR MP.

I see you haven't bothered to read any of it.

Any idea what "the plug" is?

 

[petros]

Demands that Israel, the occupying Power, comply strictly with its
obligations under international law, including as reflected in the advisory opinion of
the International Court of 19 July 2024, including to bring an end to its unlawful
presence in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, as rapidly as possible, to cease
immediately all new settlement activities and to evacuate all settlers from the
Occupied Palestinian Territory, and to put an end to its unlawful acts, including by
repealing all legislation and measures creating or maintaining the unlawful situation,
inter alia, those which discriminate against the Palestinian people, as well as all
measures aimed at modifying the demographic composition of any parts of the
Occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem;

https://documents.un.org/doc/undoc/gen/n24/392/19/pdf/n2439219.pdf

 

[Ron in Regina]

They arent suggestions. These are demands and its not on YOUR timeline. Why would you think its on your timeline?

Israel fucked up so bad the world said "fuck this noise" and is pulling "the plug" on them including our own country. Don't like it, call your MP. IM NOT YOUR MP.

I see you haven't bothered to read any of it.

Any idea what "the plug" is?

Wow, Ok. On that note with whatever non-answer you’re giving here, I was asking questions…& I seem to be a little less passionate about this than you are at this point.

Anyway, what is “the plug” that you are referring to? Is it some kind of enforcement mechanism buried somewhere in that 18 page PDF that’s now one page back in this thread about this New York declaration on Palestine?

 

[Ron in Regina]

Demands that Israel, the occupying Power, comply strictly with its
obligations under international law, including as reflected in the advisory opinion of
the International Court of 19 July 2024, including to bring an end to its unlawful
presence in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, as rapidly as possible, to cease
immediately all new settlement activities and to evacuate all settlers from the
Occupied Palestinian Territory, and to put an end to its unlawful acts, including by
repealing all legislation and measures creating or maintaining the unlawful situation,
inter alia, those which discriminate against the Palestinian people, as well as all
measures aimed at modifying the demographic composition of any parts of the
Occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem;

https://documents.un.org/doc/undoc/gen/n24/392/19/pdf/n2439219.pdf

Or…? What happens to be the Enforcement mechanism for both sides?

 

[petros]

Wow, Ok. On that note with whatever non-answer you’re giving here, I was asking questions…& I seem to be a little less passionate about this than you are at this point.

Anyway, what is “the plug” that you are referring to? Is it some kind of enforcement mechanism buried somewhere in that 18 page PDF that’s now one page back in this thread about this New York declaration on Palestine?

What's the plug? The USD.

 

[petros]

Or…? What happens to be the Enforcement mechanism for both sides?

Or zero trade with Israel and USD loses its reserve status. The UN doesn't need to make a move to do it do they? Do the 140+ nations need the UN to cut trade and access to the banking world that Israel enjoys? Does OPEC need to supply the US and Israel? Trump isn't already shitting BRICS? Add EU Canada, Britain, China, India etc etc etc.

This is what happens when you deliberately slaughter children and openly state your intent of ethnic cleansing Ron.

The NYD already came from talks OUTSIDE THE UN.

Do France Saudi Arabia, Brazil, Canada, Egypt, Indonesia, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Jordan, Mexico, Norway, Qatar, Senegal, Spain, Türkiye, the United Kingdom, the European Union, and the League of Arab States need the UN to punish Israel and it's Yankee bitch?

 

[Ron in Regina]

Or…? What happens to be the Enforcement mechanism for both sides?

Or zero trade with Israel and USD loses its reserve status. The UN doesn't need to make a move to do it do they? Do the 140+ nations need the UN to cut trade and access to the banking world that Israel enjoys? Does OPEC need to supply the US and Israel? Trump isn't already shitting BRICS? Add EU Canada, Britain, China, India etc etc etc.

This is what happens when you deliberately slaughter children and openly state your intent of ethnic cleansing Ron.

The NYD already came from talks OUTSIDE THE UN.

Do France Saudi Arabia, Brazil, Canada, Egypt, Indonesia, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Jordan, Mexico, Norway, Qatar, Senegal, Spain, Türkiye, the United Kingdom, the European Union, and the League of Arab States need the UN to punish Israel and it's Yankee bitch?

Ok, so what’s the enforcement mechanism for the side that “isn’t” Israel?

 

[petros]

Ok, so what’s the enforcement mechanism for the side that “isn’t” Israel?

What are they doing wrong? Did the Egypt, Tukiye and UAE stabilzation force show up yet?

TRUMP'S CEASE-FIRE PLAN: U.S. President Trump posted on Truth Social that many of America's allies in the Middle East have told him "they would welcome the opportunity, at my request, to go into GAZA with a heavy force and 'straighten out Hamas' if Hamas continues to act badly, in violation of their agreement with us." Trump added that he told these countries, "and Israel, 'NOT YET!' There is still hope that Hamas will do what is right. If they do not, an end to Hamas will be FAST, FURIOUS, & BRUTAL!"

U.S. Vice President JD Vance landed in Israel and visited the U.S. headquarters tasked with maintaining the cease-fire, the Civil-Military Coordination Center (CMCC). Vance is also expected to meet with Israeli President Herzog and former hostages. Speaking at a press conference, Vance said the U.S. was "not going to force anything" on Israel regarding foreign troops on the ground in Gaza, but added that Turkey has a "constructive" role to play.

Citing sources in the Trump administration, the New York Times reported that Vance's two-day visit is meant to ensure that Netanyahu does not violate the cease-fire and launch another offensive in Gaza. The sources have become increasingly concerned that the PM will derail the deal.

(But But But Hamaaaaaaaas)


Netanyahu met with Egyptian intelligence chief Hassan Rashad in Jerusalem to discuss "advancing President Trump's [Gaza] plan, Israeli-Egyptian relations, and strengthening peace between the countries, as well as other regional issues," the PM's office said.

Senior Hamas official Khalil al-Hayya told the Egyptian Al-Qahirah channel that the organization is "serious about recovering the bodies of all Israeli hostages. We are facing great difficulty in the rescue and are continuing our efforts." Al-Hayya added that "what we heard from the mediators and the U.S. president reassures us that the war in Gaza is over."

The U.S. seeks to involve Azerbaijan in the international stabilization force set to be deployed in Gaza as part of Trump's plan, U.S. officials told Haaretz, adding that CENTCOM commander Brad Cooper, who is charged with putting together the alliance, met with President Aliyev and Defense Minister Hasanov in Baku on Saturday. The presidential palace's statement did not mention Gaza, but said the two sides discussed the possibility of military and technological cooperation.

U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent met with his Israeli counterpart, far-right Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich, and encouraged him to "fully embrace President Trump's landmark peace deal," a statement from the Treasury Department said.

"Instead of airing the opening session of the Knesset on Monday, Israeli TV studios should have broadcast the 60 Minutes interview with U.S. envoys Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner. The Knesset may be more entertaining, but it is irrelevant. The real decisions shaping Israelis' fate are being made in Washington. The envoys' message from the interview was clear: they are managing the situation closely and will not allow the cease-fire to collapse. The incidents in Gaza that followed the broadcast showed that in practice" – Chaim Levinson


If you brain functions.....

 

[petros]