Mark Carney (Trudeau Liberal Replacement) as PM

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It was funny to see 2 different perspectives: one from the CBC & others from the Canadian Independent & U.S. Media. The video I watched showed a VERY uncomfortable Carney so he's already shown he's not what he says he is & he'll likely "cave" to Trump anyway because he doesn't have an ounce of integrity!
 

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It was funny to see 2 different perspectives: one from the CBC & others from the Canadian Independent & U.S. Media. The video I watched showed a VERY uncomfortable Carney so he's already shown he's not what he says he is & he'll likely "cave" to Trump anyway because he doesn't have an ounce of integrity!
"Cave to Trump" on what? The U.S. annexing Canaduh?
 

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Mark Carney is doing a pretty good job so far. Sorry, folks, but he is. Three reasons.
(c) if anything is driving down the price per barrel of oil it’s the rantings of the maniac in the Oval Office. Making common cause with him would have an unhappy ending.

He is wrong on that front. Saudis and OPEC are helping to break Russia and Iran and ultimately China financially
 
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Ron in Regina

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Mere weeks after Prime Minister Mark Carney declared that bilateral relations with the U.S. were “over,” he’s leaned into a pro-American stance that is almost entirely at odds with the position he took during the federal election campaign.😳
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“Thank you for your hospitality, and above all for your leadership. You’re a transformational president focused on the economy with a relentless focus on the American worker. Securing the borders. Ending the scourge of fentanyl and other opioids. And securing the world,” Carney said.

And the paean was one of the few things that Carney said throughout the entire appearance. A video analysis of the half-hour press conference by the X account Vesper confirmed that Carney only spoke for three minutes as compared to 30 minutes for Trump.
This included Carney sitting silently as Trump went on multiple extended rants about the need for the U.S. annexation of Canada, and the abolition of the “artificially drawn line” between the two countries.

Trump also claimed to have won Carney the election. “I was probably the greatest thing that happened to him, but I can’t take full credit. His party was losing by a lot and he ended up winning,” said Trump, to laughter from the Canadian leader.

In the first week of the election campaign, Carney declared “the old relationship we had with the United States based on deepening integration of our economies and tight security and military cooperation is over. It’s clear the U.S. is no longer a reliable partner.”

Just last week, Carney’s election night victory speech framed Trump as an existential threat to Canada…but the election is over now.

(Polls repeatedly showed that Carney’s meteoric rise in public support was due largely to voter perceptions that he was the best equipped to take on the United States)
For all Carney has done to try to chart a new path forward, two things will continue to haunt him and could lead Canadians to conclude that the Trudeau era is not, in fact, over.
 

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As the USA and Britain cosied up to each other things are rather frostier between the USA and Canada.

As Trump effectively lowered British tariffs he bluntly told the world that he will not be doing the same for Canada in a White House meeting with new Canadian PM (and former Bank of England Governor) Mark Carney.

The two countries may be next door neighbours but there was no love lost between the two, as Trump declared that the US "doesn't do much business with Canada."

Carney then told Trump that Canada will not become a US State and will remain an independent nation.

 
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Ron in Regina

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Well, if you only heard about the Carney/Trump meeting from Canadian media, you would think it was a very different meeting than the one that’s shown in the video above.

Pretty much Carney’s sole platform in this last federal election was about Trump, & very little else beyond watered down conservative platform points with liberal caveats so that they’d never have to actually live up to the promises, and so many swallowed it hook, line, and stinker.

Now that Canada elected the prime minister it deserves instead of the one it needed, we have to live with that choice for the foreseeable future. Tuesday Carney will appoint a “fresh” cabinet & we will get to see how much he’s “not” the same as Justin Trudeau like he claims to be…
 

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Mere weeks after Prime Minister Mark Carney declared that bilateral relations with the U.S. were “over,” he’s leaned into a pro-American stance that is almost entirely at odds with the position he took during the federal election campaign.😳
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“Thank you for your hospitality, and above all for your leadership. You’re a transformational president focused on the economy with a relentless focus on the American worker. Securing the borders. Ending the scourge of fentanyl and other opioids. And securing the world,” Carney said.

And the paean was one of the few things that Carney said throughout the entire appearance. A video analysis of the half-hour press conference by the X account Vesper confirmed that Carney only spoke for three minutes as compared to 30 minutes for Trump.
This included Carney sitting silently as Trump went on multiple extended rants about the need for the U.S. annexation of Canada, and the abolition of the “artificially drawn line” between the two countries.

Trump also claimed to have won Carney the election. “I was probably the greatest thing that happened to him, but I can’t take full credit. His party was losing by a lot and he ended up winning,” said Trump, to laughter from the Canadian leader.

In the first week of the election campaign, Carney declared “the old relationship we had with the United States based on deepening integration of our economies and tight security and military cooperation is over. It’s clear the U.S. is no longer a reliable partner.”

Just last week, Carney’s election night victory speech framed Trump as an existential threat to Canada…but the election is over now.

(Polls repeatedly showed that Carney’s meteoric rise in public support was due largely to voter perceptions that he was the best equipped to take on the United States)
For all Carney has done to try to chart a new path forward, two things will continue to haunt him and could lead Canadians to conclude that the Trudeau era is not, in fact, over.
This is exactly what the US bought. Total compliance from a guy that doesn't know what country he belongs to. Or if he even believes in countries as a political structure.
 

Ron in Regina

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This is exactly what the US bought. Total compliance from a guy that doesn't know what country he belongs to. Or if he even believes in countries as a political structure.
Well, it’s not like they haven’t had business dealings (though cut outs) in the past. The whole Son-in-Law/Brookfield/Qatar thing is the one we know about…& no idea if others exist or don’t regarding Carney facilitating deals for the Trump empire already.

Trumps timely statements during the CANADIAN election, & Carney’s “pauses” to deal with them where beyond transparent, but here we are.
 

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Well, it’s not like they haven’t had business dealings (though cut outs) in the past. The whole Son-in-Law/Brookfield/Qatar thing is the one we know about…& no idea if others exist or don’t regarding Carney facilitating deals for the Trump empire already.

Trumps timely statements during the CANADIAN election, & Carney’s “pauses” to deal with them where beyond transparent, but here we are.
If any Conservative had tried what Carnage got accolades for, CBC would be all over it like white on rice.
 
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Ron in Regina

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Carney promised a temporary cap immigration until numbers return to pre-pandemic levels. The only problem with that is there was already a housing crisis at that time.
The Prime Minister is sticking with the targets set out late last year by then-immigration minister Marc Miller when he set out a plan for future levels of permanent and non-permanent residents.

But economists who have analyzed immigration statistics say that any reductions would not reflect the true number of temporary residents living here and may mean that pressure on housing and services will not be eased to the extent expected.

Official population figures also fail to capture undocumented migrants who last year Mr. Miller estimated could number about 600,000.

The economists warn that Ottawa is overestimating the number of temporary migrants who leave the country once their visas expire. This could have a serious impact on planning, including for housing demand, they say.

 

Ron in Regina

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Well, it’s not like they haven’t had business dealings (though cut outs) in the past. The whole Son-in-Law/Brookfield/Qatar thing is the one we know about…& no idea if others exist or don’t regarding Carney facilitating deals for the Trump empire already.
President Trump’s administration is in talks with the Qatari government about accepting a luxury Qatari plane for his use as president and potentially beyond, according to people familiar with the matter.
Trumps timely statements during the CANADIAN election, & Carney’s “pauses” to deal with them where beyond transparent, but here we are.
If this Qatari plane is a scandal for Trump, the trail back to Qatar includes Carney & Brookfield.
Under the potential arrangement, which is raising legal and ethical concerns, the plane owned by the Qatari royal family would be used as Air Force One while Trump is in office after being retrofitted by a U.S. defense contractor. The U.S. wouldn’t pay for the luxury 747-style jumbo jet. It may then be gifted to the Trump presidential library for Trump to use after he leaves office, the people said.

“The concern with foreign gifts is that they can sway a president’s policy and predilections—and there’s little doubt that Qatar wants to gift Trump a ‘palace in the sky’ for exactly that reason,” Weissman said.
 
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The Prime Minister is sticking with the targets set out late last year by then-immigration minister Marc Miller when he set out a plan for future levels of permanent and non-permanent residents.

But economists who have analyzed immigration statistics say that any reductions would not reflect the true number of temporary residents living here and may mean that pressure on housing and services will not be eased to the extent expected.

Official population figures also fail to capture undocumented migrants who last year Mr. Miller estimated could number about 600,000.

The economists warn that Ottawa is overestimating the number of temporary migrants who leave the country once their visas expire. This could have a serious impact on planning, including for housing demand, they say.

So maybe the government will have to grow a spine and evict everyone that is here illegally.