Canada’s Military current state & equipment

Ron in Regina

"Voice of the West" Party
Apr 9, 2008
27,734
10,321
113
Regina, Saskatchewan
So what is to stop Canada from building an improved system in these planes?
As production increases, the costs may drop. Nevertheless, all evidence to date indicates that we would pay over $120 million per aircraft, rather than $75 million."

At $75-$120 million per F35, should we have to be “fixing” them immediately?

Ottawa’s move to reevaluate the F-35 buy comes as Washington pursues more aggressive relations with its northern neighbor, as President Donald Trump threatens high tariffs and even annexation — renewing the electoral prospects of Carney’s Liberal Party, which he took over from former Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. Trump’s sharper rhetoric against NATO allies is also driving a new wave of defense spendingin Europe, as leaders grow concerned Washington may prove to be an unreliable partner.
We dont have the smarts or the money.
We might have the smarts or the money to stop at the first 16-17 F-35’s, & using the same dollars that would have purchased the other 70-ish F-35’s…we could put our eggs into more than one basket?
 
  • Like
Reactions: Taxslave2

pgs

Hall of Fame Member
Nov 29, 2008
28,293
7,917
113
B.C.
People pissing and moaning about taxes?
When half off your labour goes to taxes get back to me . And don’t complain when you sell that cabin in the woods that you dutifully paid municipal taxes on when the Feds hit you up with a capital gains tax , ditto to any investments not shielded in a 401k ( rrsp ) . Did I mention that rrsp is taxable income when redeemed .
 
  • Like
Reactions: Taxslave2

petros

The Central Scrutinizer
Nov 21, 2008
115,447
13,629
113
Low Earth Orbit
When half off your labour goes to taxes get back to me . And don’t complain when you sell that cabin in the woods that you dutifully paid municipal taxes on when the Feds hit you up with a capital gains tax , ditto to any investments not shielded in a 401k ( rrsp ) . Did I mention that rrsp is taxable income when redeemed .
RRSPs are a scam.
 

Taxslave2

House Member
Aug 13, 2022
4,473
2,594
113
People pissing and moaning about taxes?
People here piss and moan about high taxation because we get little to show for it. And generally 60% is pissed away administrating the other 40%. CRA has more employees than IRA, and we have about a tenth of your population.
 

pgs

Hall of Fame Member
Nov 29, 2008
28,293
7,917
113
B.C.
People here piss and moan about high taxation because we get little to show for it. And generally 60% is pissed away administrating the other 40%. CRA has more employees than IRA, and we have about a tenth of your population.
Hey don’t besmirch those hardly working liberal voters .
 
  • Haha
Reactions: Taxslave2

Tecumsehsbones

Hall of Fame Member
Mar 18, 2013
59,519
9,142
113
Washington DC
People here piss and moan about high taxation because we get little to show for it. And generally 60% is pissed away administrating the other 40%. CRA has more employees than IRA, and we have about a tenth of your population.
Well, the Irish Republican Army doesn't have "employees," per se.

But to your larger point, yeah, Canaduh sucks ass.
 

petros

The Central Scrutinizer
Nov 21, 2008
115,447
13,629
113
Low Earth Orbit
Well, how ‘bout those apples?
(YouTube & U.S. Blocks Sweden's Gripen Deal – Why Colombia & Sweden Are Shocked!)
Any chance those GE engines are exactly what the doctor ordered for China's J-20 fighter jets?

While China has made significant strides in developing its own fighter jets, it still faces challenges in producing reliable, high-performance engines, particularly for its advanced aircraft like the J-20, and relies on imported engines (Russia) or domestically made ones that fall short of Western standards.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:

Historical Context:
China has a history of reverse-engineering and copying foreign technologies, including fighter jets, but developing engines from scratch is a different and more complex challenge.

The WS-10 Engine:
China has been working on its indigenous WS-10 engine for its J-20 stealth fighters, but reports suggest these engines still fall short in thrust compared to Russian or Western engines.

Challenges in Engine Development:
Lack of Expertise: China's defense-industrial complex is relatively new compared to countries like Russia, and it lacks the long-standing expertise and tacit knowledge required for developing modern turbofan engines.

Reverse Engineering vs. Innovation: While China is skilled at reverse-engineering, this doesn't translate easily into developing new jet engines from scratch, which requires years of intensive learning and development.

Reliance on Foreign Technology: China has been importing Russian engines or relying on domestically made engines that are not as advanced as Western ones.

US Export Controls: The US has stepped up its export controls on technologies that support the production of advanced semiconductors and gas turbine engines, potentially restricting Chinese companies' access to such technology.

Strategic Implications:
China's struggles with fighter aircraft engine development have strategic implications, particularly in its military modernization efforts and aspirations to become a global aerospace leader.

Current Status:
China has made some progress in developing its own engines, such as the WS-15, which is being tested on the J-20.

The WS-10 engine is being used in the J-20, but there are reports that it is still not as powerful as the Russian engines it was intended to replace.
China is also working on developing engines for commercial aircraft, such as the CJ-1000, but faces challenges in achieving certification and meeting Western standards.
 

Twin_Moose

Hall of Fame Member
Apr 17, 2017
22,030
6,149
113
Twin Moose Creek
Any chance those GE engines are exactly what the doctor ordered for China's J-20 fighter jets?

While China has made significant strides in developing its own fighter jets, it still faces challenges in producing reliable, high-performance engines, particularly for its advanced aircraft like the J-20, and relies on imported engines (Russia) or domestically made ones that fall short of Western standards.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:

Historical Context:
China has a history of reverse-engineering and copying foreign technologies, including fighter jets, but developing engines from scratch is a different and more complex challenge.

The WS-10 Engine:
China has been working on its indigenous WS-10 engine for its J-20 stealth fighters, but reports suggest these engines still fall short in thrust compared to Russian or Western engines.

Challenges in Engine Development:
Lack of Expertise: China's defense-industrial complex is relatively new compared to countries like Russia, and it lacks the long-standing expertise and tacit knowledge required for developing modern turbofan engines.

Reverse Engineering vs. Innovation: While China is skilled at reverse-engineering, this doesn't translate easily into developing new jet engines from scratch, which requires years of intensive learning and development.

Reliance on Foreign Technology: China has been importing Russian engines or relying on domestically made engines that are not as advanced as Western ones.

US Export Controls: The US has stepped up its export controls on technologies that support the production of advanced semiconductors and gas turbine engines, potentially restricting Chinese companies' access to such technology.

Strategic Implications:
China's struggles with fighter aircraft engine development have strategic implications, particularly in its military modernization efforts and aspirations to become a global aerospace leader.

Current Status:
China has made some progress in developing its own engines, such as the WS-15, which is being tested on the J-20.

The WS-10 engine is being used in the J-20, but there are reports that it is still not as powerful as the Russian engines it was intended to replace.
China is also working on developing engines for commercial aircraft, such as the CJ-1000, but faces challenges in achieving certification and meeting Western standards.
That's also why China tried buying out the Ukrainian engine manufacturer a couple years back
 

Twin_Moose

Hall of Fame Member
Apr 17, 2017
22,030
6,149
113
Twin Moose Creek
Antonov?

I wouldn't trust Colombian crackheads.
  1. Global web icon
    Nikkei Asia
    https://asia.nikkei.com › Business › Business-deals › Ukra…


    Ukraine blocks Chinese takeover of jet engine maker …

    Mar 18, 2021 · MOSCOW -- Ukraine will halt the takeover of an aircraft engine maker by a Chinese company, responding to U.S. objections over the prospect of important military technology falling into...

  2. Global web icon
    Breaking Defense
    https://breakingdefense.com › could-ukrainian-firm-solve-chinas...

    Could Ukrainian Firm Solve China’s Jet-Engine Problem?

    Mar 9, 2021 · China has long relied on Russian imports to power its jet aircraft. Now a Chinese bid for a Ukrainian engine maker could change that – with dire results for US air superiority.
  3. Global web icon
    EurAsian Times
    https://www.eurasiantimes.com › chinas-ef

    How China's Stealth J-20 Fighter Jets Are Being 'Held Hostage' By …

    Mar 13, 2021 · A possible Chinese takeover of a Ukrainian jet-engine manufacturer, Motor Sich, has hit roadblocks with the US and Ukraine governments throwing a spanner in the works, …