Liberals bring out the Knives

[Ron in Regina]

"Feminist" AND "anti-racist." Funny how the guy who admonished Americans for choosing the old White guy instead of the woman of colour has punted a woman of colour from the race and is thoroughly backing the old White guy.

With Dhalla out of the Liberal leadership race, that means there are four contenders left: Mark Carney, Chrystia Freeland, Karina Gould and Frank Baylis.

I think it would be funny to hear a reporter admonish him for choosing the old White guy. Especially an American reporter.

So…which one will get voted off the island next? They all have skeletons in their closets. Mr. Carney and Ms. Freeland are now the front-runners for a party leadership that is being sold as less like a poisoned chalice, and Canadians will finally get a chance to see them cross-examine each other’s plans to lead Canada through Hurricane Trump….& hopefully, eventually, maybe, have to actually face opposition in the parliament like an actual working democracy

(YouTube & “LILLEY UNLEASHED: Conservative MP says Carney must give a full disclosure of assets”)

It’s high stakes with just over two weeks to go until the Liberal Party chooses its successor to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau that Trudeau has already anointed, on March 9.

 

[Ron in Regina]

Liberal leadership contender Karina Gould says she’s going to wait to gauge the state of the Canada-U.S. relationship when the race to replace Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is determined in mid-March, before deciding whether to call an early election, if she wins the contest.

On March 4, Trump’s 30-day reprieve on across-the-board tariffs of 25 per cent on Canadian imports and 10 per cent on Canadian energy, is set to expire. Then, Trump says other levies are on the way, such as new tariffs on steel and aluminum, and “the big one,” reciprocal tariffs, in early April.

When pressed again on the fact it is only Liberals who would be choosing her to be the next prime minister, not Canadians as a whole, Gould said: “I am an elected member of Parliament.”

“I do have a seat in the House of Commons, so I can actually sit there when I become prime minister,” Gould said, referencing her Liberal leadership race opponent and presumptive frontrunner in the contest, Mark Carney.

‘I do have a seat in the House of Commons’: Gould won’t commit to early election if she wins Liberal leadership — CTV News

Liberal leadership contender Karina Gould says she’s going to wait to gauge the state of the Canada-U.S. relationship when the race to replace Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is determined in mid-March, before deciding whether to call an early election, if she wins the contest.

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Carney — the former governor of the Bank of Canada — has never been elected to office, and if he wins the Liberal leadership, would not be able to participate in Parliament.

“There will be an election at some point this year,” Gould said. “We have a fixed election date in October.” (Looking at you Jagmeet!!)

Meanwhile, Carney is currently well ahead in the race when it comes to fundraising, high-profile endorsements and in the polls.

Carney has never specifically ruled out calling a snap election shortly after the leadership race ends, if he becomes prime minister, when asked by reporters throughout the campaign…which would avoid his NOT participating in parliament assuming he allows parliament to sit.

The NDP, for its part, sent out an internal memo to its candidates earlier this month, urging them to prepare for an election “as early as March 10.”

The four Liberal leadership hopefuls are set to square off in two debates this week, first in French on Monday, then in English on Tuesday, both in Montreal.

The Liberals will select their next leader on March 9…then maybe parliament might be allowed to function again?

 

[Taxslave2]

“I do have a seat in the House of Commons, so I can actually sit there when I become prime minister,” Gould said, referencing her Liberal leadership race opponent and presumptive frontrunner in the contest, Mark Carney.

‘I do have a seat in the House of Commons’: Gould won’t commit to early election if she wins Liberal leadership — CTV News

Liberal leadership contender Karina Gould says she’s going to wait to gauge the state of the Canada-U.S. relationship when the race to replace Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is determined in mid-March, before deciding whether to call an early election, if she wins the contest.

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Fair point. The fact she is useless is not relevant considering the competition.

 

[Taxslave2]

“There will be an election at some point this year,” Gould said. “We have a fixed election date in October.” (Looking at you Jagmeet!!)

This one needs clarification. If, as some have suggested, Carnival invokes the Emergency Powers Act, can the election be called off?

 

[Ron in Regina]

This one needs clarification. If, as some have suggested, Carnival invokes the Emergency Powers Act, can the election be called off?

Can a Federal Election be called if an Emergency is called in a situation like this? It’s why Zelensky in Ukraine hasn’t called a federal election.

The Chief Electoral Officer, the head of Elections Canada, has various legal powers to deal with emergencies, such as a major power outage or flood, which could disrupt voting.

For example, if a polling station has to close for some time because of a gas leak, the Chief Electoral Officer could use his power to extend voting to make up for the lost time???

Safeguards to Deal with Emergencies and Incidents

Safeguards to deal with emergencies and incidents

www.elections.ca

Emergencies Act

Federal laws of Canada

laws-lois.justice.gc.ca

Emergencies Act - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/wartime-elections-act

Postponing an election

Backgrounder ? Postponing an election

www.elections.ca

Election Canada says in "extreme situations" in which it is "practically impossible" to carry out the election in one or more ridings, their Chief Electoral Officer could recommend the election be postponed by up to a week or completely start over. Reasons could include floods, fires or other unforeseen disasters.

Elections Canada says the final decision about setting a new election date would rest with the current prime minister and the cabinet. Parliament would remain dissolved.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/federal-elections-question-answers-week-3-1.5295410

 

[Ron in Regina]

“The debate is not between Chrystia Freeland and Mark Carney – about who will be the best leader – because people take for granted that Carney will win the leadership. It is on Carney to show whether he is strong enough to battle against Trump.”…so this is another set of softballs for Carney then?

Mr. Carney and Ms. Freeland, the former finance minister, have advocated largely the same “Conservative policies” in dealing with Mr. Trump, such as dollar-for-dollar retaliation for tariffs, as has Mr. Poilievre as leader of the actual Conservative Party.

The two Liberal rivals are also on the same page with their “Conservative Party platforms” in removing carbon pricing for consumers, reversing course on increases to capital-gains taxes, removing interprovincial trade barriers and getting oil and natural gas to global markets.

But Mr. Carney is not as tainted by having sat at the cabinet table, allowing him more room to criticize Trudeau government policies like the Conservative Party does.

Carney favored to win Liberal leadership

Find Mark Carney's odds to win Liberal leadership race in Canada over Chrystia Freeland.

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The challenge in the Liberal debates for Ms. Freeland is how to put Mr. Carney to the political litmus test without damaging the Liberal party’s chances against the Conservatives in a coming election when both Freeland & Carney are both advocating Conservative Party platforms.

In many ways, Monday’s French debate will be pivotal for Mr. Carney. Quebec has been a traditional strong base for the Liberals, but Mr. Trudeau’s unpopularity put those votes at risk – until Mr. Carney came on the scene, or is about to come onto the scene, or something along those lines.

“It has never happened in history, where he (“he” Carney? Or “he” Trudeau? I’m assuming not “he” Freeland?) has doubled his (?) vote in Quebec in a few weeks,” Mr. Léger said. “The Liberals were at 22 per cent when Trudeau resigned (or announced his intention to resign at a future date). Currently, with the possibility that Carney could lead, that increased to 44 per cent on our recent survey.

So do people have a positive perception of Mark Carney, but they don’t know him, or is Still PM Trudeau throwing around taxpayer money like a drunken Liberal sailor buying the day?”

Trump likely to dominate Liberal leadership debates as Carney and Freeland vie for PM — The Globe and Mail

Political experts say all eyes will be on front-runner Mark Carney, who is untested in political debates

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[Taxslave2]

has doubled his (?) vote in Quebec in a few weeks,”

2 votes to4 votes isn't really that much in the grand scheme of things.

 

[Ron in Regina]

2 votes to4 votes isn't really that much in the grand scheme of things.

They are making inroads, as long as nobody is allowed to criticize Carney, & he doesn’t have to actually directly speak to people…

Ruby Dallah (I don’t care enough to look up the spelling of her last name) is it really happy with the liberals or the CBC at this point…just like most Canadians I think.

(YouTube & “The CBC Poilievre Bloodbath Approacheth” but it’s really mostly about the latest female liberal candidate for their leadership getting turfed)

 

[Ron in Regina]

Candidates vying to be the next leader of the federal Liberals and Canada's prime minister will square off in a French-language debate in Montreal tonight.

(Yet I bet the name Poilievre will still get mentioned more than Trump)

Five contenders cleared their final financial hurdle last week but Four will be on the ballot to replace the outgoing leader, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

They are Mark Carney, former governor of the Bank of Canada; Chrystia Freeland, former finance minister and deputy prime minister; Karina Gould, former House leader and Frank Baylis, former Liberal MP. A fifth would-be candidate, Ruby Dhalla, was disqualified from the race on Friday.

LILLEY: Liberals claiming foreign interference on Ruby Dhalla laughable — Toronto Sun

The Trudeau-Carney Liberals have never cared about foreign interference until now

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Monday's debate in Montreal will be followed by an English-language debate on Tuesday in Montreal, ‘cuz Montreal. The debates will be the only time all four candidates share a stage before Liberals elect their new leader on March 9 with Mark Carney’s official coronation.

On Saturday morning, the Liberal Party released the topics for the debate. Candidates will discuss Canada-U.S. relations, growing Canada's economy, protecting the environment while securing Canada's energy future, affordability, housing, health care and other issues. Former TVA-Québec anchor Pierre Jobin will moderate the French leadership debate and former CBC News host Hannah Thibedeau will moderate the English one.

Liberal leadership candidates to face off in first of 2 debates Monday — CBC News

Candidates vying to be the next leader of the federal Liberals and Canada’s prime minister will square off in a French-language debate in Montreal tonight.

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Despite a spate of new polls showing the Liberals as contenders in the next federal election, the party continues to flunk one of the more reliable Ottawa indicators of looming defeat: Their MPs are all leaving.

As of press time, 35 of the Liberals’ 153 MPs have announced their intention not to run for re-election.

That’s nearly a quarter of the caucus who have already thrown in the towel on their parliamentary career — and the list includes many of the most influential names of the Trudeau government.

Fourteen of the 35 departing Liberals are current or former cabinet ministers, including the reigning attorney general, Arif Virani.

FIRST READING: The most telling indicator that the Liberals remain doomed — National Post

Even if they're up in the polls, Liberal MPs are fleeing for the exits unlike any time in the last 30 years

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[Ron in Regina]

So today, leading up to the Liberals Leadership debate tonight (the French one taking place in Montreal, as opposed to the English one taking place in…Montreal), Team Carney/Trudeau/Telford/Butts is saying, “Now is not the time to be fighting amongst each other, but to focus on what they see as the “party’s” (?) common opponents: Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre and U.S. President Donald Trump.”

Sounds like it’ll be a rip-roaring-hum-dinger of a…something like a debate, but less debatish (?) before Carney is anointed the PM crown at his coronation.

The debate was originally set to have five candidates, but Ruby Dhalla was kicked out of the race last week after the party found she had committed 10 “extremely serious” violations of the leadership campaign rules, being a visible minority like the Ninja MP Chandra Arya, and identifying as an “Outsider” compared to Mark Carney also identifying as an “Outsider.”

Terry Newman: Was Ruby Dhalla too much of a threat to Mark Carney? — National Post

Would Carney or Freeland have been disqualified so easily?

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(This logic seems strange and convenient. How is someone on a ballot responsible for the contributions made by other Canadians? Would Carney, Karina Gould, or Chrystia Freeland be kicked out of the race if random donors over-contributed from the same postal code? It seems unlikely)

Ruby Dhalla learns she’s been disqualified live on air

Former MP Ruby Dhalla says she learned about her disqualification from the Liberal leadership race live on Power and Politics. #Liberals #CdnPoli #Dhalla #Ca...

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YouTube & “Ruby Dhalla learns she’s been disqualified live on air”

Carney's expenses and 'Chrystia Unleashed': Here's what to expect in the first Liberal leadership debate — National Post

For many francophone Canadians, it will be the first opportunity to hear each candidate speak extensively and mostly unscripted in French

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The goat-rodeo is suppose to kick off at 7:45pm ET tonight in about 70 minutes.

 

[Jinentonix]

Ya know, Canadians could just outright reject Carney and tell him to go get fucked in Belfast or something. Why the hell should Canadians accept edicts from a piece of shit that NOBODY outside of the Liberal party voted for. Does he even have a seat yet? How is this "defending democracy"? How does this re-instill trust in our institutions that ol' Blackface moaned about Canadians losing trust in? Which we weren't until he got his grubby little mitts all over them.

Honestly, I'm just about to the point where I don't give two shits or a flying rat's ass if the US annexes us. Either way we're fucked. I mean even if the fix wasn't in and it was a serious race, look who the runners are, Freeland who thinks canceling Diznee+ will make up the difference for the jacked up cost of living on the average household. Gould, who thinks the CoRF protects the govt from being investigated. Carney, a man who took credit for "saving Canada" from the 2008 financial crisis, ya know despite the fact it was the 100 years of strong central banking regulations and the good work of Justice Willard Estey in 1987 that saw us through the 2008 crisis but yeah, the twat who did the same thing almost every other central bank did (lower rates) saved Canada.
And then there's Frank Baylis. What can I say? Nothin' never heard of the guy. lol

On the other side come election time there's Poilievre, who's really quick with a slogan but really short on details. And that worries me. Plus with Groper stuffing the Senate with ideologues, well what can you say, that's "Canadian democracy" for ya. That's the "democracy" Trudeau is defending. The ability to prevent future non-Liberal govts from passing anything.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

OK, "go get fucked in Belfast" is my new curse.

I do question, though, exactly how "fucked" you are. Where would you put yourself, or Canadians generally, on a world scale of well-being? In what percentile. In terms of health, wealth, freedom, prosperity, and opportunity. do you think you're better or worse off than the average German? The average Libyan? The average Somali? The average Thai? The average Guatemalan? The average Hungarian?

 

[Ron in Regina]

Liberal leadership hopefuls face off in French-language debate

Liberal leadership candidates face off in the French-language debate, produced by the Liberal Party of Canada.Subscribe to CTV News to watch more videos: htt...

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(YouTube & “Liberal leadership hopefuls face off in French-language debate”)

I have come to the conclusion that I’d much prefer Chrystia Freeland’s voice when it’s dubbed over with someone else’s voice.

Above they’ve condensed the two hours of debate (debate isn’t the right word) down to just over two minutes.

 

[Ron in Regina]

Neither Carney nor Baylis have a seat in the House of Commons, so even if they become prime minister in less than two weeks’ time, they would not be able to participate in Parliament when the House returns at the end of March.

Asked by reporters following the debate about the prospect of heading into an early election, Carney wouldn’t directly say.

“We need to know what happens over the course of the next few weeks,” Carney said, referencing ongoing negotiations with the Americans and Trump’s tariff threats. “With respect to that, there are some circumstances, and I’ll let you use your imagination, where it may make sense to recall Parliament, or for Parliament to sit from (March) 24.”

The key takeaways from the French Liberal leadership debate — CTV News

The four remaining candidates in the race to replace Prime Minister Justin Trudeau as head of the Liberals squared off in the first of two debates Monday.

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So….parliament? May or may not be recalled March 24th….?

 

[Jinentonix]

OK, "go get fucked in Belfast" is my new curse.

I do question, though, exactly how "fucked" you are. Where would you put yourself, or Canadians generally, on a world scale of well-being? In what percentile. In terms of health, wealth, freedom, prosperity, and opportunity. do you think you're better or worse off than the average German? The average Libyan? The average Somali? The average Thai? The average Guatemalan? The average Hungarian?

Yeah yeah, the term "fucked" is all relative so I have no right to complain since it's better than living in Guatemala or something.

 

[petros]

Neither Carney nor Baylis have a seat in the House of Commons, so even if they become prime minister in less than two weeks’ time, they would not be able to participate in Parliament when the House returns at the end of March.

Asked by reporters following the debate about the prospect of heading into an early election, Carney wouldn’t directly say.

“We need to know what happens over the course of the next few weeks,” Carney said, referencing ongoing negotiations with the Americans and Trump’s tariff threats. “With respect to that, there are some circumstances, and I’ll let you use your imagination, where it may make sense to recall Parliament, or for Parliament to sit from (March) 24.”

The key takeaways from the French Liberal leadership debate — CTV News

The four remaining candidates in the race to replace Prime Minister Justin Trudeau as head of the Liberals squared off in the first of two debates Monday.

apple.news

So….parliament? May or may not be recalled March 24th….?

The GG might have to actually work one day to dissolve Parliament.

 

[Ron in Regina]

Analysis of last night’s French debate for the liberal leader anointment of Carney, & even with four out of five panellists being Carney supporters…it’s still interesting.

Here’s the English debate if anybody is interested in following it live:

You can watch these four contenders all agree with each other for the next two hours.

 

[pgs]

Ya know, Canadians could just outright reject Carney and tell him to go get fucked in Belfast or something. Why the hell should Canadians accept edicts from a piece of shit that NOBODY outside of the Liberal party voted for. Does he even have a seat yet? How is this "defending democracy"? How does this re-instill trust in our institutions that ol' Blackface moaned about Canadians losing trust in? Which we weren't until he got his grubby little mitts all over them.

Honestly, I'm just about to the point where I don't give two shits or a flying rat's ass if the US annexes us. Either way we're fucked. I mean even if the fix wasn't in and it was a serious race, look who the runners are, Freeland who thinks canceling Diznee+ will make up the difference for the jacked up cost of living on the average household. Gould, who thinks the CoRF protects the govt from being investigated. Carney, a man who took credit for "saving Canada" from the 2008 financial crisis, ya know despite the fact it was the 100 years of strong central banking regulations and the good work of Justice Willard Estey in 1987 that saw us through the 2008 crisis but yeah, the twat who did the same thing almost every other central bank did (lower rates) saved Canada.
And then there's Frank Baylis. What can I say? Nothin' never heard of the guy. lol

On the other side come election time there's Poilievre, who's really quick with a slogan but really short on details. And that worries me. Plus with Groper stuffing the Senate with ideologues, well what can you say, that's "Canadian democracy" for ya. That's the "democracy" Trudeau is defending. The ability to prevent future non-Liberal govts from passing anything.

Any times the Conservatives pre publish details of their plans the Liberals either incorporate them into there platform or have the CBC and the rest of the bought and paid media misrepresent one or two pieces of arcane language and pound them into the ground .
What makes you think Carney won’t get the Ignatieff treatment ?

 

[pgs]

OK, "go get fucked in Belfast" is my new curse.

I do question, though, exactly how "fucked" you are. Where would you put yourself, or Canadians generally, on a world scale of well-being? In what percentile. In terms of health, wealth, freedom, prosperity, and opportunity. do you think you're better or worse off than the average German? The average Libyan? The average Somali? The average Thai? The average Guatemalan? The average Hungarian?

Worse then ten years ago .

 

[pgs]

Neither Carney nor Baylis have a seat in the House of Commons, so even if they become prime minister in less than two weeks’ time, they would not be able to participate in Parliament when the House returns at the end of March.

Asked by reporters following the debate about the prospect of heading into an early election, Carney wouldn’t directly say.

“We need to know what happens over the course of the next few weeks,” Carney said, referencing ongoing negotiations with the Americans and Trump’s tariff threats. “With respect to that, there are some circumstances, and I’ll let you use your imagination, where it may make sense to recall Parliament, or for Parliament to sit from (March) 24.”

The key takeaways from the French Liberal leadership debate — CTV News

The four remaining candidates in the race to replace Prime Minister Justin Trudeau as head of the Liberals squared off in the first of two debates Monday.

apple.news

So….parliament? May or may not be recalled March 24th….?

Until Trump tells him he is negotiating nothing until he has at least a voice in Parliment . Will be another laughing moment for me .