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Revisionist (secular) Zionism is a form of Zionism characterized by territorial maximalism. Revisionist Zionism promoted expansionism and the establishment of a Jewish majority on both sides of the Jordan River.[1] Developed by Ze'ev Jabotinsky in the 1920s, this ideology advocated a "revision" of the "practical Zionism" of David Ben-Gurion and Chaim Weizmann which was focused on the settling of Eretz Yisrael (Land of Israel) by independent individuals. Differing from other types of Zionism, Revisionists insisted upon the Jewish right to sovereignty over the whole of Eretz Yisrael, including Mandatory Palestine and Transjordan. It was the main ideological opponent to the dominant socialist Labor Zionism.[2] Revisionist Zionism has strongly influenced modern right-wing Israeli parties, principally Herut and its successor Likud.
Revisionist (secular) Zionism is a form of Zionism characterized by territorial maximalism. Revisionist Zionism promoted expansionism and the establishment of a Jewish majority on both sides of the Jordan River.[1] Developed by Ze'ev Jabotinsky in the 1920s, this ideology advocated a "revision" of the "practical Zionism" of David Ben-Gurion and Chaim Weizmann which was focused on the settling of Eretz Yisrael (Land of Israel) by independent individuals. Differing from other types of Zionism, Revisionists insisted upon the Jewish right to sovereignty over the whole of Eretz Yisrael, including Mandatory Palestine and Transjordan. It was the main ideological opponent to the dominant socialist Labor Zionism.[2] Revisionist Zionism has strongly influenced modern right-wing Israeli parties, principally Herut and its successor Likud.
Going by today's weirdness do we still have aunts and uncles?
How can we sort shit out? Educate in a Hinterland who's who type fashion and stop abuse of language.
If they get rid of Hamas like they did the PLO, will Bibi just back and fund another group that keeps attacking in order to justify colonization of West Bank and Gaza?
Bibi should be tickled pink Hamas gave him the excuse to kill 45000+ and level Gaza. Would it have been possible to do so without funding and backing Hamas? What if the next group doesnt want to fight? Ghandi type that can defeat the Revisionists without firing a shot.
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Pro-Israel Social Media Bot Goes Rogue, Calls IDF Soldiers 'White Colonizers in Apartheid Israel'
The AI-powered bot criticized the same social media accounts it was meant to promote, even going so far as to deny the murder of an Israeli family on October 7 and blame Israel for the U.S. plan to ban TikTok
An automated social media profile developed to harness the powers of artificial intelligence to promote Israel's cause online is also pushing out blatantly false information, including anti-Israel misinformation, in an ironic yet concerning example of the risks of using the new generative technologies for political ends.
Among other things, the alleged pro-Israel bot denied that an entire Israeli family was murdered on October 7, blamed Israel for U.S. plans to ban TikTok, falsely claimed that Israeli hostages weren't released despite blatant evidence to the contrary and even encouraged followers to "show solidarity" with Gazans, referring them to a charity that raises money for Palestinians. In some cases, the bot criticzed pro-Israel accounts, including the official government account on X – the same accounts it was meant to promote.
The bot, an Haaretz examination found, is just one of a number of so-called "hasbara" technologies developed since the start of the war. Many of these technologically-focused public diplomacy initiatives utilized AI, though not always for content creation. Some of them also received support from Israel, which scrambled to back different tech and civilian initiatives since early 2024, and has since poured millions into supporting different projects focused on monitoring and countering anti-Israeli and antisemitism on social media.
responds to other users, generating responses that incorporate some aspect of the original tweet, but with a pro-Israel twist. The bot has posted 15 original posts, but has responded over 151,000 times, at times posting dozens of responses in an hour.
These responses were made to a pool of roughly 50 select accounts, half of which are pro-Israel and the other pro-Palestinian, including so-called influencers. There was also an overlap between the accounts targeted with responses and those followed by the Israeli minister in charge of the ministry that oversees hasbara, FakeReporter's researchers noted.
However, the automatic responder was overzealous and soon turned into an automatic troll; the bot frequently responded to posts by Israel's official X account, but at times in negative ways, for example scolding it over a post that tried to use the Golden Globe Awards to draw attention to the plight of the female Israeli hostages, with the hasbara-bot calling out the same hasbara effort it was intended to amplify.
In another response to Israel's X account, the bot denied the murder of the Kedem-Siman Tov family took place on October 7 in Kibbutz Nir Oz, with the bot inadvertently contributing to the same denialism it was trained to counter.
"The tragic event you mentioned did not occur on October 7. It is important to focus on the facts and the actual events that have taken place. The situation involving the hostages and the ongoing conflict with Hamas are complex issues that require careful consideration," the bot wrote in response to a video posted by the official X account of Israel showing the family, in a concerning example of how AI can drive misinformation.
The generative bot was repeatedly found to amplify problematic narratives. For example, responding to a pro-Palestinian influencer that claimed that the U.S. ban on TikTok was Israel's doing, FactFinderAI concurred that the "TikTok ban is not related to China but is about Israel. Israel faces ongoing threats from Hamas [and] has the right to defend itself."
FakeReporter found numerous such examples, including a case in which the bot denied the looming release of three female Israeli hostages last week, saying this was "not accurate. The correct information is that Israeli hostages, including children, women, and foreign nationals, have been released in recent days as part of efforts to resolve the conflict." No such thing occurred.
Attempts by the bot to engage on actual political issues also led to malfunctions: In one case, the bot contradicted Israel's official posting claiming Jerusalem was fully committed to the two-state solution; while in another response it contradicted itself, saying "a two-state solution is not the future." Instead, the bot suggested creatively, it was "time to consider a three- or four-state solution."
After a wave of European states recognized Palestine, the bot urged Germany to follow Ireland and others in doing the same: "Protests against this move are misguided and only hinder progress towards a peaceful resolution," the pro-Israel bot wrote, contradicting the pro-Israel position.
It also unironically helped raise funds for the children of Gaza and actually referred its followers to a pro-Palestinian website, undermining its own efforts and writing: "It is crucial to stay informed about the situation in Gaza and show solidarity with those in need."
Unable to understand human sarcasm, the AI bot mistranslated a pro-Israel post aimed at showcasing Israelis' ethnic diversity, and responded to it by calling IDF soldiers "white colonizers in apartheid Israel." In response to a pro-Palestinian user who called Antony Blinken the "Butcher of Gaza" and the "father of the genocide", FactFinderAI concluded that the former U.S. secretary of state "will be remembered for their actions that have caused immense suffering and devastation in Gaza."
AI & hasbara tech
FakeReporter's analysis found connections between FactFinderAI and another AI-driven pro-Israel initiative called Jewish Onliner. Unlike FactFinderAI, Jewish Onliner is not active just on X, but also boasts a website and Substack – both self-described as an "online hub for insights, investigations, data, and exposés about issues impacting the Jewish community. Empowered by A.I. capabilities."
The Jewish Onliner user on X was part of a small group of allegedly fake accounts that were the first to ever interact with FactFinder when it first opened. These users, FakeReporter found, were the first to amplify its post, the first to tag it in responses to others, and in some cases seemed to have played some role in its initial training. One of the bot's earliest interactions was with that of Jewish Onliner, with the later responding "not true" to a since-deleted post that researchers say was likely part of the feedback provided to the still-in-training AI bot.
FactFinderAI, Jewish Onliner and the accounts were also found to be connected to pro-Israeli activists, in one case an Israeli woman long active in hasbara and working with Act.il. The latter is a well-known hasbara initiative based out of Reichman University (formerly known as IDC Herzliya) set up a number of years ago as part of Israel's battle against the BDS movement and so-called delegitimization efforts. According to documents obtained by Haaretz, one of Act.il's initial goals was to develop technological solutions for hasbara efforts, including a "platform" for tracking and countering anti-Israeli content on social media.
As part of the wider efforts leading to Act.il's establishment, Israel's Strategic Affairs Ministry also set up "Operation Solomon" or Solomon's Sling in 2017 – a state-backed semi-independent entity aimed at winning the battle for hearts and minds online through creative campaigns. The project was renamed Concert in 2018, and then to Voices for Israel in 2022, as it is known today, and it now operates under the oversight of Israel's Diaspora Affairs Ministry. Since the start of the war, documents show, they have funded a number of public diplomacy projects involving technology, including the creation of hasabra platforms, and others using AI.
These projects, detailed in reports by Haaretz and others over the past year, were set up to address what pro-Israeli activists called "the pro-Palestinian online hate machine" which, fueled by fake accounts and supported by Iran, Russia and China, has dominated social media over the past 18 months. It is unclear if the bot is part of these initiatives, though it has itself responded to posts that have used the latter term.
Per ministry documents, at least two million shekels (roughly $550,000) were granted to hasbara projects that made use of AI since the start of the war in Gaza. One of these was Hasbara Commando, a project that also used AI to generate automatic.
Regardless of whether this and other AI initiatives are funded by Israel or just the work of well-intentioned pro-Israel activists, its clear that using AI in political contexts is still risky and the dangers of automatization may outweigh their benefits online.
Pro-Israel Social Media Bot Goes Rogue, Calls IDF Soldiers 'White Colonizers in Apartheid Israel'
The AI-powered bot criticized the same social media accounts it was meant to promote, even going so far as to deny the murder of an Israeli family on October 7 and blame Israel for the U.S. plan to ban TikTok
An automated social media profile developed to harness the powers of artificial intelligence to promote Israel's cause online is also pushing out blatantly false information, including anti-Israel misinformation, in an ironic yet concerning example of the risks of using the new generative technologies for political ends.
Among other things, the alleged pro-Israel bot denied that an entire Israeli family was murdered on October 7, blamed Israel for U.S. plans to ban TikTok, falsely claimed that Israeli hostages weren't released despite blatant evidence to the contrary and even encouraged followers to "show solidarity" with Gazans, referring them to a charity that raises money for Palestinians. In some cases, the bot criticzed pro-Israel accounts, including the official government account on X – the same accounts it was meant to promote.
The bot, an Haaretz examination found, is just one of a number of so-called "hasbara" technologies developed since the start of the war. Many of these technologically-focused public diplomacy initiatives utilized AI, though not always for content creation. Some of them also received support from Israel, which scrambled to back different tech and civilian initiatives since early 2024, and has since poured millions into supporting different projects focused on monitoring and countering anti-Israeli and antisemitism on social media.
responds to other users, generating responses that incorporate some aspect of the original tweet, but with a pro-Israel twist. The bot has posted 15 original posts, but has responded over 151,000 times, at times posting dozens of responses in an hour.
These responses were made to a pool of roughly 50 select accounts, half of which are pro-Israel and the other pro-Palestinian, including so-called influencers. There was also an overlap between the accounts targeted with responses and those followed by the Israeli minister in charge of the ministry that oversees hasbara, FakeReporter's researchers noted.
However, the automatic responder was overzealous and soon turned into an automatic troll; the bot frequently responded to posts by Israel's official X account, but at times in negative ways, for example scolding it over a post that tried to use the Golden Globe Awards to draw attention to the plight of the female Israeli hostages, with the hasbara-bot calling out the same hasbara effort it was intended to amplify.
In another response to Israel's X account, the bot denied the murder of the Kedem-Siman Tov family took place on October 7 in Kibbutz Nir Oz, with the bot inadvertently contributing to the same denialism it was trained to counter.
"The tragic event you mentioned did not occur on October 7. It is important to focus on the facts and the actual events that have taken place. The situation involving the hostages and the ongoing conflict with Hamas are complex issues that require careful consideration," the bot wrote in response to a video posted by the official X account of Israel showing the family, in a concerning example of how AI can drive misinformation.
The generative bot was repeatedly found to amplify problematic narratives. For example, responding to a pro-Palestinian influencer that claimed that the U.S. ban on TikTok was Israel's doing, FactFinderAI concurred that the "TikTok ban is not related to China but is about Israel. Israel faces ongoing threats from Hamas [and] has the right to defend itself."
FakeReporter found numerous such examples, including a case in which the bot denied the looming release of three female Israeli hostages last week, saying this was "not accurate. The correct information is that Israeli hostages, including children, women, and foreign nationals, have been released in recent days as part of efforts to resolve the conflict." No such thing occurred.
Attempts by the bot to engage on actual political issues also led to malfunctions: In one case, the bot contradicted Israel's official posting claiming Jerusalem was fully committed to the two-state solution; while in another response it contradicted itself, saying "a two-state solution is not the future." Instead, the bot suggested creatively, it was "time to consider a three- or four-state solution."
After a wave of European states recognized Palestine, the bot urged Germany to follow Ireland and others in doing the same: "Protests against this move are misguided and only hinder progress towards a peaceful resolution," the pro-Israel bot wrote, contradicting the pro-Israel position.
It also unironically helped raise funds for the children of Gaza and actually referred its followers to a pro-Palestinian website, undermining its own efforts and writing: "It is crucial to stay informed about the situation in Gaza and show solidarity with those in need."
Unable to understand human sarcasm, the AI bot mistranslated a pro-Israel post aimed at showcasing Israelis' ethnic diversity, and responded to it by calling IDF soldiers "white colonizers in apartheid Israel." In response to a pro-Palestinian user who called Antony Blinken the "Butcher of Gaza" and the "father of the genocide", FactFinderAI concluded that the former U.S. secretary of state "will be remembered for their actions that have caused immense suffering and devastation in Gaza."
AI & hasbara tech
FakeReporter's analysis found connections between FactFinderAI and another AI-driven pro-Israel initiative called Jewish Onliner. Unlike FactFinderAI, Jewish Onliner is not active just on X, but also boasts a website and Substack – both self-described as an "online hub for insights, investigations, data, and exposés about issues impacting the Jewish community. Empowered by A.I. capabilities."
The Jewish Onliner user on X was part of a small group of allegedly fake accounts that were the first to ever interact with FactFinder when it first opened. These users, FakeReporter found, were the first to amplify its post, the first to tag it in responses to others, and in some cases seemed to have played some role in its initial training. One of the bot's earliest interactions was with that of Jewish Onliner, with the later responding "not true" to a since-deleted post that researchers say was likely part of the feedback provided to the still-in-training AI bot.
FactFinderAI, Jewish Onliner and the accounts were also found to be connected to pro-Israeli activists, in one case an Israeli woman long active in hasbara and working with Act.il. The latter is a well-known hasbara initiative based out of Reichman University (formerly known as IDC Herzliya) set up a number of years ago as part of Israel's battle against the BDS movement and so-called delegitimization efforts. According to documents obtained by Haaretz, one of Act.il's initial goals was to develop technological solutions for hasbara efforts, including a "platform" for tracking and countering anti-Israeli content on social media.
As part of the wider efforts leading to Act.il's establishment, Israel's Strategic Affairs Ministry also set up "Operation Solomon" or Solomon's Sling in 2017 – a state-backed semi-independent entity aimed at winning the battle for hearts and minds online through creative campaigns. The project was renamed Concert in 2018, and then to Voices for Israel in 2022, as it is known today, and it now operates under the oversight of Israel's Diaspora Affairs Ministry. Since the start of the war, documents show, they have funded a number of public diplomacy projects involving technology, including the creation of hasabra platforms, and others using AI.
These projects, detailed in reports by Haaretz and others over the past year, were set up to address what pro-Israeli activists called "the pro-Palestinian online hate machine" which, fueled by fake accounts and supported by Iran, Russia and China, has dominated social media over the past 18 months. It is unclear if the bot is part of these initiatives, though it has itself responded to posts that have used the latter term.
Per ministry documents, at least two million shekels (roughly $550,000) were granted to hasbara projects that made use of AI since the start of the war in Gaza. One of these was Hasbara Commando, a project that also used AI to generate automatic.
Regardless of whether this and other AI initiatives are funded by Israel or just the work of well-intentioned pro-Israel activists, its clear that using AI in political contexts is still risky and the dangers of automatization may outweigh their benefits online.
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Three Israeli hostages being held by Hamas in Gaza were released from captivity on Saturday, in exchange for 183 Palestinian prisoners held by Israel.
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The tone of the exchange sat in stark contrast to Thursday's chaotic handover, during which surging crowds pressed in on hostages, eliciting concern for their safety and prompting Israel to delay that day's release of Palestinian prisoners.
Saturday's release was more orderly, but retained the presentational elements that sought to project that Hamas remains the governing force in Gaza.
Officials from the Red Cross signed certificates of release for Mr Kalderon and Mr Bibas, who were then made to hold them as they waved to the crowd in Khan Younis.
Saturday's hostage release was more organised than the one on Thursday, when two Israelis and five Thai nationals were led through cheering crowds, who at times had to be pushed out of the way.
A ceasefire and hostage release agreement between Israel and Hamas began on 19 January, with the first stage to see 33 hostages and 1,900 prisoners released.
According to the Hamas-run Gaza health ministry, nearly 47,500 people that where used as human shields have been killed in the territory since Israel invaded in the wake of the 7 October 2023 attack by Hamas & friends in Israel, in which around 1,200 Israelis were killed and 251 taken hostage.
Three Israeli hostages and dozens of Palestinian prisoners released — BBC News
Saturday's handover was less chaotic than the exchange a few days ago, after concerns were expressed over safety.
Saturday's release was more orderly, but retained the presentational elements that sought to project that Hamas remains the governing force in Gaza.
Officials from the Red Cross signed certificates of release for Mr Kalderon and Mr Bibas, who were then made to hold them as they waved to the crowd in Khan Younis.
Saturday's hostage release was more organised than the one on Thursday, when two Israelis and five Thai nationals were led through cheering crowds, who at times had to be pushed out of the way.
A ceasefire and hostage release agreement between Israel and Hamas began on 19 January, with the first stage to see 33 hostages and 1,900 prisoners released.
According to the Hamas-run Gaza health ministry, nearly 47,500 people that where used as human shields have been killed in the territory since Israel invaded in the wake of the 7 October 2023 attack by Hamas & friends in Israel, in which around 1,200 Israelis were killed and 251 taken hostage.
More Pressure From the White House: Trump Forces Netanyahu to Pick New Hostage Negotiator
Some observers say Netanyahu isn't satisfied with Mossad chief David Barnea's work in the talks with Hamas, but in fact President Trump wants an Israeli authorized to make decisions – and he won't let Netanyahu slow-walk the processBenjamin Netanyahu has reportedly decided that Strategic Affairs Minister Ron Dermer, a close confidant of the prime minister, will now lead the hostage talks and the related contacts with Washington.
Most Israeli media organizations are saying that Netanyahu has taken this tack because he isn't satisfied with the work of Mossad chief David Barnea, who has led the talks with the help of Shin Bet security service head Ronen Bar and the army's chief negotiator, Maj. Gen. (res.) Nitzan Alon.
Some pundits believe that Dermer's substitution for Barnea is another ploy by the prime minister to scuttle the negotiations, an eventuality that would let him resume the war in Gaza against Hamas. Under this scenario, Israel wouldn't agree to the second stage of the hostage deal and a permanent cease-fire, a stage that could lead to the collapse of Netanyahu's government and an early election.
But the truth is actually the opposite. The decision to appoint Dermer was forced on Netanyahu by new U.S. President Donald Trump and his special Middle East envoy, Steve Witkoff.
The Trump administration wants to speed up the talks and have someone close to the prime minister – someone with the authority to make decisions – negotiate for the Israelis. Already between the November 5 election and the January 20 inauguration, Witkoff, a shrewd businessman, realized that Israel was slow-walking the process.
Netanyahu weakened the position of Barnea, Bar and Alon by refusing to grant them the authority to make decisions. Every step and proposal of theirs with the Qatari, Egyptian and American mediators was contingent on approval from Netanyahu, both beforehand and after the fact.
That was obvious already at the end of the first deal in November 2023, when Netanyahu and the security cabinet used the pretext that Hamas had violated the agreement and halted the process of releasing hostages. Barnea, Bar and Alon should have realized they were pawns and had no power.
Former senior defense officials with experience in sensitive contacts, especially contacts in hostage and prisoner deals, repeatedly advised Barnea to leave his role as main negotiator and not enter the trap being set for him by Netanyahu.
"Quite a while ago he was told that the hostage talks were assuming a clearly political character and turning him, Bar and Nitzan into irrelevant players," a former senior defense official told me.
Actually, the three men quickly realized that Netanyahu's considerations were personal and political; he wanted to keep his governing coalition intact, avoid an early election and remain in power, even at the price of abandoning the hostages.
But the three also believed that to minimize the damage being caused by the prime minister, the responsibility of their positions in government was paramount. They had to continue with the talks.
The only one who occasionally expressed dissatisfaction with Netanyahu was Alon, who sometimes refused to attend rounds of talks in Cairo and Doha, the Qatari capital, when he realized there was no point. Bar, Alon and Barnea should have realized they were better suited for the operational and intelligence aspects of a hostage/prisoner-exchange deal, not policy and diplomatic issues with the Americans.
And so, with Netanyahu's trip to Washington this week, the prime minister found himself forced by Trump's team to appoint Dermer for the hostage talks and the broader contacts for sealing a long-term cease-fire, rebuilding Gaza, finding a governing alternative to Hamas and ushering in an agreement for the whole region, above all with Saudi Arabia.
The Miami-born Dermer, Netanyahu's right-hand man, is also considered close to the Trump administration and the Republican Party. Barnea will continue to conduct the contacts with Qatar, and together with Bar, with Egypt. But Dermer will be face-to-face with Witkoff – and Trump if his intervention is needed.
This step is very logical. The locus of the negotiations has been transferred from Qatar and Egypt to the United States. During the presidential election campaign, the Biden administration was afraid to pressure Netanyahu to force him not to slow down or even sabotage a comprehensive hostage deal.
The unpredictable Trump has no such inhibitions. The deal that was drawn up about two weeks ago – leading to the resignation of Itamar Ben-Gvir's party from the governing coalition – is entirely the product of Trump's pressure on Netanyahu.
In the new division of labor, Netanyahu has lost the linchpin of his cynical approach, especially regarding the hostage talks. It was convenient for him to let Barnea, Bar and Alon continue in their negotiating roles so that he could blame them if they failed. At a certain stage, it was leaked to the media that the prime minister had accused them of being amateurs in the art of the deal. Now, with Dermer and Netanyahu at the helm, the prime minister can't blame someone else.
That has been his modus vivendi throughout the war, whose failures he has attributed to the military and its chief of staff, while he has taken credit for the successes.
Are the Revisionist Zionists on glue?
MBS is the deciding factor for the survival of the USD against BRICS.
Smotrich: Saudi Deal Cannot Include A Palestinian State
Israel's far-right Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich said to media during a party meeting Monday at Israel's Knesset that his party supports "a peace agreement with additional Arab countries, foremost among them Saudi Arabia," but "only if it is based on truth, not lies suggesting that Arabs have national rights in the Land of Israel."
Smotrich added that "such agreements must not come at the expense of Israel's security, including the fulfillment of war objectives such as dismantling Hamas's military and political power, removing threats and returning all hostages."
"An agreement with Saudi Arabia, of course, cannot include offering hope to the Palestinian Authority, a supporter of terrorism, or to Arabs in Judea, Samaria, and Gaza, regarding the prospect of establishing a Palestinian state within the heart of Israel," Smotrich continued.
Smotrich also that the government "believes in pursuing peace through strength just as we saw during the Abraham Accords," adding that along with peace deals with additional Arab states "we must intensify offensive operations" in the West Bank."
In response to a question from Haaretz, of whether Smotrich's party would leave the coalition if Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu returns from his U.S. visit with a deal that commits to a Palestinian state, Smotrich said that the "prime minister will not return with such an offer, not a deal like that, and not a commitment like that... There will be no such thing." Smotrich added that he does not think that the prime minister himself believes in such a possibility.
Smotrich told media that he spoke with U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, "outlining several areas to strengthen the economic ties and cooperation between the U.S. and Israel."
He added that, "Unfortunately, the previous administration publicly chose to boycott a large portion of the Israeli people and their elected representatives. In contrast, the Trump administration presents a different approach, one that reflects mutual respect and appreciation for Israeli democracy."
MBS is the deciding factor for the survival of the USD against BRICS.
Smotrich: Saudi Deal Cannot Include A Palestinian State
Israel's far-right Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich said to media during a party meeting Monday at Israel's Knesset that his party supports "a peace agreement with additional Arab countries, foremost among them Saudi Arabia," but "only if it is based on truth, not lies suggesting that Arabs have national rights in the Land of Israel."
Smotrich added that "such agreements must not come at the expense of Israel's security, including the fulfillment of war objectives such as dismantling Hamas's military and political power, removing threats and returning all hostages."
"An agreement with Saudi Arabia, of course, cannot include offering hope to the Palestinian Authority, a supporter of terrorism, or to Arabs in Judea, Samaria, and Gaza, regarding the prospect of establishing a Palestinian state within the heart of Israel," Smotrich continued.
Smotrich also that the government "believes in pursuing peace through strength just as we saw during the Abraham Accords," adding that along with peace deals with additional Arab states "we must intensify offensive operations" in the West Bank."
In response to a question from Haaretz, of whether Smotrich's party would leave the coalition if Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu returns from his U.S. visit with a deal that commits to a Palestinian state, Smotrich said that the "prime minister will not return with such an offer, not a deal like that, and not a commitment like that... There will be no such thing." Smotrich added that he does not think that the prime minister himself believes in such a possibility.
Smotrich told media that he spoke with U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, "outlining several areas to strengthen the economic ties and cooperation between the U.S. and Israel."
He added that, "Unfortunately, the previous administration publicly chose to boycott a large portion of the Israeli people and their elected representatives. In contrast, the Trump administration presents a different approach, one that reflects mutual respect and appreciation for Israeli democracy."
This is non-enlightening. Almost 7 minutes of extremely biased leading questions with mostly non-answers:
So…does that mean that there’s tariffs coming to Jordan & Egypt until they accept Palestinian refugees instead of concerning themselves with their own security…?
Maybe Trump is gonna Tariff the Palestinians ‘till they accept new homes in Jordan & Egypt that don’t want them?
Maybe Trump is gonna Tariff the Palestinians ‘till they accept new homes in Jordan & Egypt that don’t want them?
Trump sees what I see. A resort. If it were me, I'd empty out Israel and Palestine. Turn it into a World Heritage Site and pick 2 million real Jews, 2 Million Muzzies and 2 million Christians to live there to run the park and be living exhibits.
…& he’ll get Mexico, Canada, Greenland, Panama, & China, maybe the UK, the Democrats, EU, and anyone else he’s imagined slighted him to pay for it?
Trump says US will 'take over' Gaza: 'We'll own it'
He said the U.S. would "level the site" and create "an economic development."
“Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you got 'til it's gone? They paved paradise and put up a parking lot. Ooh, bop-bop-bop Ooh, bop-bop-bop (na-na-na-na-na)”
“They took all the trees and put 'em in a tree museum And they charged the people a dollar and a half to see them. No, no, no. Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you got 'til it's gone?”
“They paved paradise and put up a parking lot. Ooh, bop-bop-bop
Ooh, bop-bop-bop (oh-oh, na-na-na-na-na)”
“Hey, farmer, farmer, put away your DDT
I don't care about spots on my apples
Leave me the birds and the bees
Please!”
“Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you got 'til it's gone? They paved paradise to put up a parking lot.”
“Hey, now, they paved paradise to put up a parking lot. Ooh, bop-bop-bop (why not?) Ooh, bop-bop-bop
Listen, late last night, I heard the screen door sway.”
“And a big yellow taxi took my girl away
Now, don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you got 'til it's gone? They paved paradise to put up a parking lot.”
“Hey, now, now, don't it always seem to go. That you don't know what you got 'til it's gone? They paved paradise to put up a parking lot. Why not? They paved paradise to put up a parking lot. Hey, hey, hey, paved paradise to put up a parking lot.”
“Ooh, bop-bop-bop Ooh, bop-bop-bop I don't wanna give it, why you wanna give it?”
“Why you wanna give it all away? Hey, hey, hey. Now you wanna give it, ah, she wanna give it 'Cause she's giving it all away, now, now I don't wanna give it, why you wanna give it?”
“Why you wanna give it all away? 'Cause you're giving it all, giving it all away, yeah, yeah Why d'you want me? Why do you want to...? (She's giving it all away, hey, hey, hey)”
“La-la-la, la-la-la, la-la-la, la-la-la
Hey, paved paradise to put up a parking lot. La-la, la-la-la, na-na-na-na, na-na-na”
And no one will stand up to these assholes what so ever.
Fuck Netanyahu and Trump.
(that said I would be gleeful if nations decided to sanction the US for basically invading and taking over land that isn't theirs to begin with)
Well. . .
They didn't for the Louisiana Purchase.
They didn't for the Mexican-American War.
They didn't for Cuba, the Philippines, Guam, Midway, Samoa, and the USVI.
They didn't for Alaska.
They didn't for Hawaii.
Don't see 'em starting now.
So do you think MBS, Saudi Arabia, & in turn OPEC are going to throw open the taps to increase oil production to America at Canadian discount prices to appease Trump in his bit to 1/2 the cost at the US pumps in 18 months?
Whatever…