Liberals bring out the Knives
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I’ve seem to recall reading recently that the whole Christy Clark thing, she had to surrender her liberal membership to get her conservative membership, for that month or whatever in 2022, and then she had to surrender that conservative membership to get her liberal membership back….& I have no idea how that would be enforced because I haven’t looked that far.
Seriously, if it were possible without crime, subterfuge, or a lot of bucks, I think I'd do it.
I only have the foggiest idea of Federal vs. provincial parties, but maybe if one lived in, say, Saskatchewan, it might be desirable to be a Federal Liberal and a provincial Conservative. In terms of your vote meaning anything.
Down hereabouts, I'm not a party member. If I was, I think I'd be a Democrat, because Maryland is heavily blue, so the only realistic way to get to vote meaningfully is to vote in the Democratic primary (which selects the Democratic candidates for the general election). That way, you get a say over who the Democratic candidate will be. And the Dem almost always wins.
In Canada the provincial branch of the Conservative Party is independent from the federal branch. Same with the Liberals. The NDP is one party at both levels. We don't have parties at any other level. And we don't vote for as many positions as you do either. My wife was American and she showed me her ballot for one of the past elections. There were tons of names and most were Democrats or Republicans. We have PM, Premier, mayor and city counsellor as well as school board trustees. The 3 levels also have independent election dates. You guys are all on November every 2 years.
Wow, kind of a mess, from my point of view. I like the idea that we're "one and done" every two years on the first Tuesday in November. Easier for planning purposes.
That's general elections. The party primaries (in which I don't vote) vary on date, depending on the state, usually 6-2 months before the general election.
All of which is horse shit, as far as I'm concerned. I think parties should be private clubs with no governmental effect, and "democracy" means winning the popular vote in the relevant jurisdiction (Congressional district, county, state, or country).
House Leader Karina Gould said she would represent a "new generation" (?) if elected Liberal leader, making her bid to replace Justin Trudeau official Saturday afternoon?
The Liberal party has clarified some of the rules for its coming leadership race. Candidates can pay the $350,000 entrance fee in installments, with the first $50,000 due on Jan. 23 and another $50,000 due by the end of the month, with two more payments of $125,000 each due in February.
The party has also set an expense limit of $5 million for each campaign, and prohibited candidates from taking on more than $200,000 in debt. That’ll wean out some of the undesirables that dare to sniff the rarified air of the Natural Governing Party of Canada’s leadership position.
Candidates have until Jan. 27 to register supporters, who will then be able to vote in the contest. The race will be determined by a preferential ballot, with voters ranking their choices.
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(Theory is, Gould is a plant to divide support for Freeland, then Gould will throw herself behind Trudeau’s pick being Carney)
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It seems as if Liberal leadership frontrunners Mark Carney and Chrystia Freeland both realize they won’t save their party in the next election unless they take Pierre Poilievre’s advice and “axe the tax.”
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So what will these Liberals replace the carbon tax with? Umm, another carbon tax.
Carney seems committed to finding the unicorn of all taxes — one that’s environmentally sound, lucrative for governments and consumers and attracts scads of investment in Canada.
On the other hand, Freeland said she would scrap the consumer carbon tax (which is good) and replace it “with a system that will work within our federation and will be developed collaboratively with provinces and territories.”
Let’s call this the ‘good-luck-with-that tax’.
(On April 1, the government is set to hike the carbon tax…again)
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Until this week, the position of everyone in the Liberal Party was that if you axed the carbon tax as Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre has suggested for more than two years, that you would be taking money away from Canadians. In fact, as Poilievre’s support has grown due to dissatisfaction with the carbon tax, that’s been the argument the Liberals have pushed back with.
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Hey look! It’s the Liberal Outsider’s handshake.
The Liberal party has clarified some of the rules for its coming leadership race. Candidates can pay the $350,000 entrance fee in installments, with the first $50,000 due on Jan. 23 and another $50,000 due by the end of the month, with two more payments of $125,000 each due in February.
The party has also set an expense limit of $5 million for each campaign, and prohibited candidates from taking on more than $200,000 in debt. That’ll wean out some of the undesirables that dare to sniff the rarified air of the Natural Governing Party of Canada’s leadership position.
Candidates have until Jan. 27 to register supporters, who will then be able to vote in the contest. The race will be determined by a preferential ballot, with voters ranking their choices.
House Leader Karina Gould announces she's joining Liberal leadership race to replace Trudeau — Toronto Star
Gould made the announcement official Saturday afternoon in a social media post.
(Theory is, Gould is a plant to divide support for Freeland, then Gould will throw herself behind Trudeau’s pick being Carney)
GOLDSTEIN: In Trudeau’s vision of himself, he was always the chosen one — Toronto Sun
The Prime Minister clearly sees himself as the guardian of the vision of the anointed in Canada
EDITORIAL: The great Liberal carbon tax cover-up — Toronto Sun
Since it remains unclear what the two leading contenders for the federal Liberal leadership — Mark Carney and Chrystia Freeland — intend to do about Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s carbon tax, let’s go back to the basics of the issue. When the Liberals imposed a new price on Canadians for the...
GUNTER: Liberal hopefuls disguising carbon tax as a 'replacement' — Toronto Sun
It seems as if Liberal leadership frontrunners Mark Carney and Chrystia Freeland both realize they won’t save their party in the next election unless they take Pierre Poilievre’s advice and “axe the tax.” The highly unpopular carbon tax, that is. So what will these Liberals replace the carbon...
Carney seems committed to finding the unicorn of all taxes — one that’s environmentally sound, lucrative for governments and consumers and attracts scads of investment in Canada.
Let’s call this the ‘good-luck-with-that tax’.
(On April 1, the government is set to hike the carbon tax…again)
OPINION: Carney stumbles out the gate on carbon taxes — Toronto Sun
Prime minister hopeful Mark Carney is supposed to be the economic messiah sent to save the Liberals from the depths of polling purgatory. But right out the gate, Carney showed he doesn’t have an answer to the most important question: Will he keep the carbon tax? Carney should have seen that...
LILLEY: Freeland and Carney run away, kind of, from carbon tax — Toronto Sun
As Liberals run from their central policy, Conservatives try to remind voters that Freeland and Carney are "Just like Justin"
It's time for the government to stop tossing the salad of activism and get back to the job of running the fucking country.
If I do say so myself.
If I do say so myself.
As long as True Dope's in the big chair, I'd think you'd want him to focus on trivialities, instead of driving the damn country into the ditch.
Foreign Affairs Minister Mélanie Joly endorsed whomever Trudeau anointed to be the next leader of the Liberal Party moments before Chrystia Freeland was set to officially launch her bid, as the race to replace Justin Trudeau heats up. Shocked.
Gould hasn’t had to claim fealty to Carney yet at this stage, so still gets to play at independent thought. Ms. Joly, a Quebec MP who served for many years in cabinet alongside Ms. Freeland, said the former banker “brings unparalleled economic experience” to the role and is best positioned to defeat Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre? Really?
Ms. Freeland’s official campaign launch at a youth club in Toronto was delayed by pro-Palestinian protesters who repeatedly interrupted the former deputy prime minister while her supporters chanted her name in response.
Ms. Freeland was also asked by journalists about Ms. Joly’s endorsement of her main rival, Ms. Freeland said she respects the foreign affairs minister “a lot in fact.” She said the distinct nature of the Quebec language and nation will be at the heart of her campaign. “This is why I started my campaign in Quebec,” she said in French, noting her first interview was with French-language network TVA.
(Focusing on Quebec might be the best odds of Freeland picking up the most seats)
“I know that today the French language and Quebec’s identity as threatened as they never have been before,” she said. She added that U.S. president-elect Donald Trump’s threat to Canada is also a huge threat for Quebec. “I’m here to stand up for Quebec, to stand up for French and to stand up for the distinct identity of Quebec.”
Joly endorses Carney for Liberal leader as Freeland officially launches campaign — The Globe and Mail
Government House Leader Karina Gould also announced her candidacy for Liberal leader on Sunday as the race to replace Justin Trudeau heated up
God I hope its Chili Con Carney. It forces an election.View attachment 26926
Foreign Affairs Minister Mélanie Joly endorsed whomever Trudeau anointed to be the next leader of the Liberal Party moments before Chrystia Freeland was set to officially launch her bid, as the race to replace Justin Trudeau heats up. Shocked.
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Gould hasn’t had to claim fealty to Carney yet at this stage, so still gets to play at independent thought. Ms. Joly, a Quebec MP who served for many years in cabinet alongside Ms. Freeland, said the former banker “brings unparalleled economic experience” to the role and is best positioned to defeat Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre? Really?
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Ms. Freeland’s official campaign launch at a youth club in Toronto was delayed by pro-Palestinian protesters who repeatedly interrupted the former deputy prime minister while her supporters chanted her name in response.
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Ms. Freeland was also asked by journalists about Ms. Joly’s endorsement of her main rival, Ms. Freeland said she respects the foreign affairs minister “a lot in fact.” She said the distinct nature of the Quebec language and nation will be at the heart of her campaign. “This is why I started my campaign in Quebec,” she said in French, noting her first interview was with French-language network TVA.
“I know that today the French language and Quebec’s identity as threatened as they never have been before,” she said. She added that U.S. president-elect Donald Trump’s threat to Canada is also a huge threat for Quebec. “I’m here to stand up for Quebec, to stand up for French and to stand up for the distinct identity of Quebec.”
Joly endorses Carney for Liberal leader as Freeland officially launches campaign — The Globe and Mail
Government House Leader Karina Gould also announced her candidacy for Liberal leader on Sunday as the race to replace Justin Trudeau heated up
Still roughly a 200 seat spread (I didn’t look at it that close today) between the Liberals and Conservatives at this point.
If Carney is their best bet…
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Foreign Affairs Minister Mélanie Joly endorsed whomever Trudeau anointed to be the next leader of the Liberal Party moments before Chrystia Freeland was set to officially launch her bid, as the race to replace Justin Trudeau heats up. Shocked.
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Gould hasn’t had to claim fealty to Carney yet at this stage, so still gets to play at independent thought. Ms. Joly, a Quebec MP who served for many years in cabinet alongside Ms. Freeland, said the former banker “brings unparalleled economic experience” to the role and is best positioned to defeat Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre? Really?
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Ms. Freeland’s official campaign launch at a youth club in Toronto was delayed by pro-Palestinian protesters who repeatedly interrupted the former deputy prime minister while her supporters chanted her name in response.
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Ms. Freeland was also asked by journalists about Ms. Joly’s endorsement of her main rival, Ms. Freeland said she respects the foreign affairs minister “a lot in fact.” She said the distinct nature of the Quebec language and nation will be at the heart of her campaign. “This is why I started my campaign in Quebec,” she said in French, noting her first interview was with French-language network TVA.
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(Focusing on Quebec might be the best odds of Freeland picking up the most seats)
“I know that today the French language and Quebec’s identity as threatened as they never have been before,” she said. She added that U.S. president-elect Donald Trump’s threat to Canada is also a huge threat for Quebec. “I’m here to stand up for Quebec, to stand up for French and to stand up for the distinct identity of Quebec.”
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Joly endorses Carney for Liberal leader as Freeland officially launches campaign — The Globe and Mail
Government House Leader Karina Gould also announced her candidacy for Liberal leader on Sunday as the race to replace Justin Trudeau heated up
Dude, the ditch would have been easy, we've rolled over ten times and I smell gas leaking.
You counted? If I was rolling like that, I don't think I'd be counting.
I'd be screaming.
Liberal MPs and leadership contenders are falling over themselves to outdo Conservative opposition leader Pierre Poilievre in dumping on the prime minister and his past policies.
Former deputy prime minister Chrystia Freeland started the Liberal anti-Trudeau pile-on with her resignation letter accusing the prime minister of “costly political gimmicks” and suggesting he was more concerned with party fortunes than those of Canada.
Launching her campaign for leadership of the Liberal Party on Sunday, Freeland continued the attack saying it was the issue of fiscal responsibility (with herself as Finance Minister…) that was the primary reason for her disagreement with the prime minister.
“As a party we need to recognize today that Canadians want us and need us to relentlessly focus on one thing — the economy,” said the minister, whose job for the last four years was to focus on one thing — the economy…so what was Freeland focussed on for the last four years?
As for the carbon tax, Freeland, one of the most vocal supporters of the policy, is now in favour of ditching it because after 11 years as an MP she has just discovered that Liberals “need to get better at listening to Canadians.”
Meanwhile, Karina Gould, Liberal House leader and a cabinet member for seven years, launched her campaign at the weekend with a video that opened with, “I understand these past few years haven’t just been hard, they have been exhausting.” At a news conference on Sunday, she even told reporters that “Canadians don’t trust the Liberal Party of Canada right now.”
In Edmonton on Thursday, George Chahal, Liberal MP for Calgary Skyview, was doing an amazing impression of being a vocal opponent of Trudeau’s legacy when he introduced for Liberal leader Mark Carney, the former governor of the Bank of England and Canada. Great, the house is on fire, the arsonist has run off and Canada’s only hope is a man who helped light the matches.
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Trudeau’s legacy, then, according to Chahal, is a deeply divided country with an economy in the toilet.
Carney, who was an informal adviser to Trudeau in 2020 and during the pandemic, who has been the head of the prime minister’s task force on economic growth since September, and who was tipped to become finance minister, characterized himself as being only an “occasional” adviser to the government. Trudeau who?
The race to replace Justin Trudeau as Liberal leader and Prime Minister of Canada has barely begun and the best reasons not to vote for the Liberals in the next federal election are coming, rather hilariously, from the leadership candidates themselves. Carney, Freeland and Gould are all throwing shade at Trudeau’s highly unpopular carbon tax, although none has explained what they would do about it long-term.
Former deputy prime minister Chrystia Freeland started the Liberal anti-Trudeau pile-on with her resignation letter accusing the prime minister of “costly political gimmicks” and suggesting he was more concerned with party fortunes than those of Canada.
Launching her campaign for leadership of the Liberal Party on Sunday, Freeland continued the attack saying it was the issue of fiscal responsibility (with herself as Finance Minister…) that was the primary reason for her disagreement with the prime minister.
“As a party we need to recognize today that Canadians want us and need us to relentlessly focus on one thing — the economy,” said the minister, whose job for the last four years was to focus on one thing — the economy…so what was Freeland focussed on for the last four years?
As for the carbon tax, Freeland, one of the most vocal supporters of the policy, is now in favour of ditching it because after 11 years as an MP she has just discovered that Liberals “need to get better at listening to Canadians.”
Meanwhile, Karina Gould, Liberal House leader and a cabinet member for seven years, launched her campaign at the weekend with a video that opened with, “I understand these past few years haven’t just been hard, they have been exhausting.” At a news conference on Sunday, she even told reporters that “Canadians don’t trust the Liberal Party of Canada right now.”
In Edmonton on Thursday, George Chahal, Liberal MP for Calgary Skyview, was doing an amazing impression of being a vocal opponent of Trudeau’s legacy when he introduced for Liberal leader Mark Carney, the former governor of the Bank of England and Canada. Great, the house is on fire, the arsonist has run off and Canada’s only hope is a man who helped light the matches.
Michael Higgins: The Liberals new election slogan — Justin who? — National Post
Everyone who wants to lead the party is embarrassed of their own record
Carney, who was an informal adviser to Trudeau in 2020 and during the pandemic, who has been the head of the prime minister’s task force on economic growth since September, and who was tipped to become finance minister, characterized himself as being only an “occasional” adviser to the government. Trudeau who?
The race to replace Justin Trudeau as Liberal leader and Prime Minister of Canada has barely begun and the best reasons not to vote for the Liberals in the next federal election are coming, rather hilariously, from the leadership candidates themselves. Carney, Freeland and Gould are all throwing shade at Trudeau’s highly unpopular carbon tax, although none has explained what they would do about it long-term.
Utter nonsense!
He's more concerned with Boy Justin's fortunes than those of Canada.
Was a photo of Mark Carney with Jeffrey Epstein’s girlfriend leaked by Chrystia Freeland’s team?
Who sent the fake Rolls Royce to Carney’s campaign launch event?
Is Karina Gould’s candidacy merely an attempt to undermine Freeland?
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In order. . .
Don't know.
Don't care.
Nobody else does either.
Don't know.
Don't care.
Nobody else does either.
Actually, Freedland did. She threatened to axe the CONSUMER carbon scam tax. Taxes would be placed on "{high emitters" (read oil and gas). Naturally, that carbon scam tax would be absorbed by the guilty companies and not passed on to consumers in the form of higher prices.
I have some ice free since 2013 Arctic Ocean resort property to sell you too.