Liberals bring out the Knives
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I don't think so. Mainly because by the time the stink dissipates, Christie will be in a rocking chair.
There is also the party insistence that the leader speak French. Or, baring that, be incomprehensible in both official languages like Cretin.
So he’s just a dude with a lack of social skills in the ability to read the room? Another perfect choice for the liberal leader.
Well, there’s naïve, & there’s this:
Currently the projected spread between conservatives and liberals is 200 seats. Then there’s this:
I’m actually gonna probably post this into the Pierre Poilievre thread.
All candidates who want to run need to express their intention by Jan. 23 and make a refundable $50,000 deposit to be considered a candidate. After that, payments are required on Jan. 30, Feb. 7 and Feb. 17 by which point the total entrance fee of $350,000 must be paid.
Voting will take place via a preferential ballot system with the winner being announced on March 9.
That’s an incredibly short time frame to raise $350,000 – the equivalent of 200 donors at the maximum allowable donation of $1,750. It’s also a short time frame to introduce yourself to party members – or registered Liberals as they call them now – and convince them to vote for you.
This is made all the more difficult with so many people at the core of the party, those who surround Trudeau, clearly coming out and supporting Carney in an attempted coronation.
Carney is set to officially launch on Thursday, Freeland on Friday, and by next week we will know if anyone else will risk getting in the middle of the knife fight that is about to break out between the two front runners to this train wreck.
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Could it be that there is pressure coming from Trudeau for his top ministers to stay out of the way in favour of Trudeau’s preferred candidate Mark Carney (?) ‘cuz he’s such an outsider?
Voting will take place via a preferential ballot system with the winner being announced on March 9.
That’s an incredibly short time frame to raise $350,000 – the equivalent of 200 donors at the maximum allowable donation of $1,750. It’s also a short time frame to introduce yourself to party members – or registered Liberals as they call them now – and convince them to vote for you.
This is made all the more difficult with so many people at the core of the party, those who surround Trudeau, clearly coming out and supporting Carney in an attempted coronation.
LILLEY: Dropouts, a stalking horse and a surprise Liberal candidate — Toronto Sun
As some cabinet members drop out, one looks at a run and a surprise name from they past.
Hes a Nazi in wolf's clothing Liberal just like Crispy Clark.
A Liberal banker...that's priceless
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I watched the interview on American TV (well, I watched it on YouTube actually) & this assclown was trying to take credit for walking Canada through the 2008-2009 financial crisis.
Basically, the bank of Canada can do two things, it can raise interest rates and it can lower interest rates, and it stays within the guidelines set for it by the government. That’s the way I understand it, and who was leading the government at that point in time?
In an interview Monday night on ‘The Daily Show’ in which he soft-launched his campaign, Carney described himself as an “outsider” (???) despite his connections to the Trudeau government.
…to Canadians this time…
In 2020, Trudeau tapped the long-time economist as an “informal adviser” on the federal government’s pandemic recovery plan…from the outside?
Meanwhile, last summer, Trudeau told reporters that he had been talking to Carney about joining federal politics and later in September, he appointed the former central banker to be a special economic adviser to the Liberal party…from the outside?
After months of speculation about his political aspirations, Mark Carney is set to launch his Liberal leadership campaign in Edmonton this afternoon…from the outside
The former Bank of Canada and Bank of England Governor is making the announcement around 3 p.m. EDT.
…to Canadians this time…
In 2020, Trudeau tapped the long-time economist as an “informal adviser” on the federal government’s pandemic recovery plan…from the outside?
Meanwhile, last summer, Trudeau told reporters that he had been talking to Carney about joining federal politics and later in September, he appointed the former central banker to be a special economic adviser to the Liberal party…from the outside?
After months of speculation about his political aspirations, Mark Carney is set to launch his Liberal leadership campaign in Edmonton this afternoon…from the outside
The former Bank of Canada and Bank of England Governor is making the announcement around 3 p.m. EDT.
It's always fun to hear career politicians call themselves outsiders.
Fun isn’t the word I would use, but I think we both agree on this “outsider” claim.
How about "slightly and bitterly amusing?"
Anybody who buys it is on the left-hand side of the random distribution curve.
Anybody who buys it is on the left-hand side of the random distribution curve.
(Freeland and Liberal House leader Karina Gould are also expected to launch their leadership bids in the next few days)
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“….could be problematic?” Seriously?
All mainstream media outlets, CBC, Global News and others were allowed into the media event. Independent outlets True North and Counter Signal were also banned.
Mark Carney is such an “Outsider” that high-ranking members of Trudeau’s team are involved in Carney’s forthcoming leadership bid. (He will reportedly launch his campaign on Thursday in Edmonton.) Toronto Sun columnist Brian Lilley wrote on Jan. 11 that “former top advisor Gerald Butts is part of Carney’s campaign team while others close to Trudeau, including Trudeau’s chief of staff Katie Telford, are making calls on Carney’s behalf… and that much of the PMO staff is behind Carney as well.” So…Carney is…what to Trudeau, Telford, Butts, etc…? An outsider?
It’s also worth mentioning that Diana Fox Carney, who is Carney’s wife, is a senior advisor for the Eurasia Group, a political risk consultancy group whose vice-president is…Gerald Butts.
Carney first advised the Trudeau Liberals in 2020, when he helped out with Canada’s response to the COVID-19 pandemic. He even became a special adviser and chair of a Liberal Party task force on economic growth last September. There’s obviously nothing illegal (kind of scurvy, but not illegal) about this, but he’s hardly on the outside looking in.
Nothing has really changed with Carney’s knowledge, ability and political IQ in roughly four years. His leftist ideology, which includes massive support for environmental policies like net zero climate solutions, building a sustainable world economy, tackling wealth inequality, and declaring the radical Occupy Wall Street protests were “entirely constructive,” is likely still the same. What has changed is the dire circumstances that the Liberals currently face, and he knows it.
When you put everything together, Carney is actually a political “insider,” not “outsider.” He’s misrepresenting himself to both the Canadian public and an American TV audience.
After years of Trudeau’s mediocre, ineffective and delusional leadership — and terrible policies that hurt the Canadian economy and our reputation on the international stage — the Liberals are looking for any possible means of political survival. Even someone as potentially catastrophic, and very much on the inside, as Mark Carney.
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(Mark Carney is a Liberal Outsider like Kristy Clark didn’t have a Conservative Membership)
Freeland is expected to announce a leadership bid in the coming days. She has already garnered caucus support from Health Minister Mark Holland, Fisheries Minister Diane Lebouthillier, three out of five Randy’s, Ben Carr, Hedy Fry, Kevin Lamoureux and Julie Dabrusin, among others.
A majority of Liberal ministers, however, have not weighed in on who they might support in a leadership bid, ‘cuz it’s not like the clock is ticking or anything…as Trump takes office in 3 days, & Canadian Parliament is prorogued for this Liberal goat rodeo.
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All mainstream media outlets, CBC, Global News and others were allowed into the media event. Independent outlets True North and Counter Signal were also banned.
Mark Carney is such an “Outsider” that high-ranking members of Trudeau’s team are involved in Carney’s forthcoming leadership bid. (He will reportedly launch his campaign on Thursday in Edmonton.) Toronto Sun columnist Brian Lilley wrote on Jan. 11 that “former top advisor Gerald Butts is part of Carney’s campaign team while others close to Trudeau, including Trudeau’s chief of staff Katie Telford, are making calls on Carney’s behalf… and that much of the PMO staff is behind Carney as well.” So…Carney is…what to Trudeau, Telford, Butts, etc…? An outsider?
Carney first advised the Trudeau Liberals in 2020, when he helped out with Canada’s response to the COVID-19 pandemic. He even became a special adviser and chair of a Liberal Party task force on economic growth last September. There’s obviously nothing illegal (kind of scurvy, but not illegal) about this, but he’s hardly on the outside looking in.
Nothing has really changed with Carney’s knowledge, ability and political IQ in roughly four years. His leftist ideology, which includes massive support for environmental policies like net zero climate solutions, building a sustainable world economy, tackling wealth inequality, and declaring the radical Occupy Wall Street protests were “entirely constructive,” is likely still the same. What has changed is the dire circumstances that the Liberals currently face, and he knows it.
When you put everything together, Carney is actually a political “insider,” not “outsider.” He’s misrepresenting himself to both the Canadian public and an American TV audience.
After years of Trudeau’s mediocre, ineffective and delusional leadership — and terrible policies that hurt the Canadian economy and our reputation on the international stage — the Liberals are looking for any possible means of political survival. Even someone as potentially catastrophic, and very much on the inside, as Mark Carney.
Michael Taube: Carney claims to be a political outsider, but he’s very much on the inside
Carney first advised the Trudeau Liberals on their economic response to COVID-19 in 2020, and became a special adviser and chair of their economic task force last September
Freeland is expected to announce a leadership bid in the coming days. She has already garnered caucus support from Health Minister Mark Holland, Fisheries Minister Diane Lebouthillier, three out of five Randy’s, Ben Carr, Hedy Fry, Kevin Lamoureux and Julie Dabrusin, among others.
A majority of Liberal ministers, however, have not weighed in on who they might support in a leadership bid, ‘cuz it’s not like the clock is ticking or anything…as Trump takes office in 3 days, & Canadian Parliament is prorogued for this Liberal goat rodeo.
Endorsements start rolling in for Liberal leadership contestants from caucus — CBC News
At least 30 caucus members have weighed in, most endorsing either former Bank of Canada and Bank of England governor Mark Carney or former finance minister Chrystia Freeland, the presumed front-runners in the race.
Last week, the Liberal party detailed its new requirements for party membership and, accordingly, for voting for its new leader in March. It claimed the changes would protect “the integrity of our democratic process,” but the measures are blatantly insufficient to ensure that the next prime minister is not chosen by a foreign state.
The latest changes mean that prospective voters need only check a box on a web form indicating that they are Canadian citizens, permanent residents or status Indians. Phew! Clamping down hard here.
It is clear that the Liberal party is not motivated to implement the single most effective measure to prevent systematic attempts at foreign electoral interference: a small annual membership fee. In 2016, the Liberals eliminated their $10 annual membership fee, and they have failed to re-implement it, despite it being the best means of ensuring that its voters are Canadian?
It’s not that this amount — even when multiplied by hundreds of thousands of potential memberships — presents a serious economic obstacle for determined state actors; the Chinese Communist Party devotes billions of dollars a year to foreign interference, channelled through the United Front Work Department. If it were merely a matter of money, Beijing wouldn’t be deterred.
The challenge for meddling states isn’t that they don’t have the money, it’s that they can’t easily launder it to make it appear like it is coming from genuinely eligible voters. Laundering the money required to pay for large numbers of false memberships with votes controlled by foreign states is not a simple matter, and it is even more complex when parties insist that dues be paid for with credit cards or Interac payments from accounts held in the name of the individual seeking membership.
For instance, the Conservative Party of Canada prohibits potential members from paying their fees with corporate credit cards or prepaid cards, or purchasing multiple memberships with personal cheques. Tying each membership to a payment made by an individual, as verified by institutions governed by anti-money laundering and know-your-customer rules, make attempts to subvert party leadership races easier to detect, or to prove that Christy Clark purchased her own membership to the conservative party for that brief amount of time a couple years ago.
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In his position at Brookfield Asset Management, Mark Carney supervised considerable investment in Chinese markets at a time when capital infusions were sorely needed by Beijing. Few observers will fail to see that Carney is the handpicked successor of Justin Trudeau and his closest advisors, who themselves may be on the receiving end of searing criticism from the Hogue Commission for their unwillingness to take foreign interference seriously.
The Conservatives will have a question ready that Carney will find difficult to answer: why didn’t your party eliminate all suspicion that you were the beneficiary of Beijing’s interference by reinstating membership fees? If Carney cannot answer that tricky question during the next federal election, the Liberals will come to regret not taking foreign interference far more seriously. Oh well.
Allegations of foreign interference in the 2019 and 2021 elections fundamentally shook the trust that many Canadians have in the democratic process. The fact that still Prime Minister Justin Trudeau seemed to have no problem attempting to sweep the whole thing under the rug instead of forming a bipartisan coalition to weed out election meddling certainly didn’t help.
All fine and dandy. Except many of the people who could be included under the current rules don’t have the privilege of casting a ballot in a federal election, and this is not a vote for something frivolous like the Teen Choice Awards or the leader of the Green party. Plus, we have far too many documented instances of foreign powers trying to interfere in our democracy.
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The latest changes mean that prospective voters need only check a box on a web form indicating that they are Canadian citizens, permanent residents or status Indians. Phew! Clamping down hard here.
It is clear that the Liberal party is not motivated to implement the single most effective measure to prevent systematic attempts at foreign electoral interference: a small annual membership fee. In 2016, the Liberals eliminated their $10 annual membership fee, and they have failed to re-implement it, despite it being the best means of ensuring that its voters are Canadian?
It’s not that this amount — even when multiplied by hundreds of thousands of potential memberships — presents a serious economic obstacle for determined state actors; the Chinese Communist Party devotes billions of dollars a year to foreign interference, channelled through the United Front Work Department. If it were merely a matter of money, Beijing wouldn’t be deterred.
The challenge for meddling states isn’t that they don’t have the money, it’s that they can’t easily launder it to make it appear like it is coming from genuinely eligible voters. Laundering the money required to pay for large numbers of false memberships with votes controlled by foreign states is not a simple matter, and it is even more complex when parties insist that dues be paid for with credit cards or Interac payments from accounts held in the name of the individual seeking membership.
For instance, the Conservative Party of Canada prohibits potential members from paying their fees with corporate credit cards or prepaid cards, or purchasing multiple memberships with personal cheques. Tying each membership to a payment made by an individual, as verified by institutions governed by anti-money laundering and know-your-customer rules, make attempts to subvert party leadership races easier to detect, or to prove that Christy Clark purchased her own membership to the conservative party for that brief amount of time a couple years ago.
Ryan Alford: Liberals' new election rules aren’t enough to prevent foreign interference — National Post
Reinstating their $10 membership fee would have gone a long way toward preventing foreign actors from meddling in the vote
The Conservatives will have a question ready that Carney will find difficult to answer: why didn’t your party eliminate all suspicion that you were the beneficiary of Beijing’s interference by reinstating membership fees? If Carney cannot answer that tricky question during the next federal election, the Liberals will come to regret not taking foreign interference far more seriously. Oh well.
Allegations of foreign interference in the 2019 and 2021 elections fundamentally shook the trust that many Canadians have in the democratic process. The fact that still Prime Minister Justin Trudeau seemed to have no problem attempting to sweep the whole thing under the rug instead of forming a bipartisan coalition to weed out election meddling certainly didn’t help.
All fine and dandy. Except many of the people who could be included under the current rules don’t have the privilege of casting a ballot in a federal election, and this is not a vote for something frivolous like the Teen Choice Awards or the leader of the Green party. Plus, we have far too many documented instances of foreign powers trying to interfere in our democracy.
Jesse Kline: Liberals want to let non-Canadians choose our next prime minister — National Post
It's amazing that the party still doesn't take foreign interference seriously
I honestly have no idea. I do have Google though, let me play for a little bit and see if I can actually find an answer to that question.
Bob Rae was a member of the NDP and became a Liberal. This example means that it doesn't really bother the Liberals that much. People have also crossed the house of commons as well. I can assume this would terminate the prior membership but I assume not renewing would do the same thing.