Omnibus : Hunter Biden

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petros said:
The Pardon goes back in time to the day Hunter was hired by Burisma.
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Democrats on Monday began more forcefully criticizing President Joe Biden for pardoning his son Hunter Biden, saying that he’s giving his son special treatment and further eroding confidence in the rule of law.
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Democrats openly criticize Biden’s pardon: ‘No family should be above the law’ — POLITICO

The president’s spokesperson, meanwhile, offered little explanation as to why the president changed his mind.
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(…”& 10% for the Big Guy!”)

The pardon is one of the most sweeping ever issued, granting Hunter legal protection for any crime he “has committed or may have committed” over a nearly 11-year period, from Jan. 1, 2014, to Dec. 1, 2024. The pardon insulates him from ever facing federal charges for any crimes he could have committed during that period.

Throughout his presidency, Biden has emphasized the need to restore trust in institutions and has made a point to stay at an arm’s length of the Justice Department, vowing to remain independent even on issues relating to his son. As Hunter’s legal woes played out, Joe Biden and his top aides repeatedly told the public that under no circumstances would he pardon his son.

Even after Donald Trump won the presidential election, White House officials, including Jean-Pierre, said Hunter would not be pardoned.
 
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Ron in Regina said:
Democrats on Monday began more forcefully criticizing President Joe Biden for pardoning his son Hunter Biden, saying that he’s giving his son special treatment and further eroding confidence in the rule of law.
apple.news

Democrats openly criticize Biden’s pardon: ‘No family should be above the law’ — POLITICO

The president’s spokesperson, meanwhile, offered little explanation as to why the president changed his mind.
apple.news apple.news
(…”& 10% for the Big Guy!”)

The pardon is one of the most sweeping ever issued, granting Hunter legal protection for any crime he “has committed or may have committed” over a nearly 11-year period, from Jan. 1, 2014, to Dec. 1, 2024. The pardon insulates him from ever facing federal charges for any crimes he could have committed during that period.

Throughout his presidency, Biden has emphasized the need to restore trust in institutions and has made a point to stay at an arm’s length of the Justice Department, vowing to remain independent even on issues relating to his son. As Hunter’s legal woes played out, Joe Biden and his top aides repeatedly told the public that under no circumstances would he pardon his son.

Even after Donald Trump won the presidential election, White House officials, including Jean-Pierre, said Hunter would not be pardoned.
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Now they can go back to money laundering by selling shitty art.
 
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Twin_Moose said:
Do you know one of the reasons Hunter is getting pardoned for? His sentencing for unlawful possession of a firearm was coming up
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Yes.

And that unlawful possession was due to his checking the 'not under the influence' on his questionnaire when applying for a gun, when he was. The fact that there are many other people who do this, and get away with it, doesn't matter and yet, it does. Had he not been "Hunter Biden" but "Hunter Smith", likely no one would have given a shit. But because he's a Biden, it did matter.

That doesn't negate that anyone can get a gun in the US regardless of their life status. I know PERSONALLY someone who both broke the law (burglary in the 3rd degree, class D felony in Iowa) and they also have mental issues including social anxiety disorder, anti-social behaviour disorder and did have weapons in their possession (and frequently displayed that they had it despite their felony).

Funny how when I would ask pro 2nd people about those who are on meds for mental problems they never answered the question of how/when/if it's okay for them to have guns.

After all that, who cares if someone has a gun now, right? Or they lie on paperwork, right?

Cause the 2nd trumps everything.
 
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Twin_Moose said:
This is the reason for the uproar not the pardon itself, everyone seen it coming
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The uproar is two fold.

1. Biden said he wouldn't, and he did.
2. The Dems portray themselves as the more "law and order" party when they aren't.


Personally I'd counter that with:

1. Had Hunter not been the target he was politically, Biden likely wouldn't have done a damned thing but when the incoming government are driving a personal vendetta against not just Joe but his son, he protected him (and Trump et all have NO leg to stand on in being pissed about this).
2. Valid point here and if Joe were smart he'd start pardoning OTHER people too who have similar situations, AND maybe a few others. Leonard Peltier comes to mind, for the main one.
 
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Serryah said:
The uproar is two fold.

1. Biden said he wouldn't, and he did.
2. The Dems portray themselves as the more "law and order" party when they aren't.


Personally I'd counter that with:

1. Had Hunter not been the target he was politically, Biden likely wouldn't have done a damned thing but when the incoming government are driving a personal vendetta against not just Joe but his son, he protected him (and Trump et all have NO leg to stand on in being pissed about this).
2. Valid point here and if Joe were smart he'd start pardoning OTHER people too who have similar situations, AND maybe a few others. Leonard Peltier comes to mind, for the main one.
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So Biden's own DOJ went after Hunter because of politics?
 
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Twin_Moose said:
So Biden's own DOJ went after Hunter because of politics?
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No. His own DOJ went after Hunter because he broke the law. And Biden was good with it.

Things that happened during this, and after it, are what turned it into politics and he realized that now things were no longer lawful or anything close to being that.

You know, like the House Committee on Oversight and Accountability subpoenaing him to appear, but then changing their minds from a public to a private meeting and when Hunter said yes to the public but no to the private, they threw fits for months (meanwhile other congressional members STILL haven't answered their subpoenas). Or the plea deal that was made but during the final formality suddenly things came up that had it rejected (and I think both sides in this are at fault; both political sides). Or the promise he'd "Go after Biden" if he got elected https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4966421-trump-revenge-tour-threats/

Considering the last bit and how likely it is, this was a last ditch to protect his kid from bullshit that would further ruin his life, and could likely endanger it, because once an addict, always an addict. Despite being clean for, IIRC 5 years? You honestly think he wouldn't backslide with all that kind of bullshit in his life? Yeah, he pardoned his kid, to protect and maybe save him, and appearances being what they are it looks really bad.

But blame him? Not really.
 
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Serryah said:
No. His own DOJ went after Hunter because he broke the law. And Biden was good with it.

Things that happened during this, and after it, are what turned it into politics and he realized that now things were no longer lawful or anything close to being that.

You know, like the House Committee on Oversight and Accountability subpoenaing him to appear, but then changing their minds from a public to a private meeting and when Hunter said yes to the public but no to the private, they threw fits for months (meanwhile other congressional members STILL haven't answered their subpoenas). Or the plea deal that was made but during the final formality suddenly things came up that had it rejected (and I think both sides in this are at fault; both political sides). Or the promise he'd "Go after Biden" if he got elected https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4966421-trump-revenge-tour-threats/

Considering the last bit and how likely it is, this was a last ditch to protect his kid from bullshit that would further ruin his life, and could likely endanger it, because once an addict, always an addict. Despite being clean for, IIRC 5 years? You honestly think he wouldn't backslide with all that kind of bullshit in his life? Yeah, he pardoned his kid, to protect and maybe save him, and appearances being what they are it looks really bad.

But blame him? Not really.
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10% for the big guy....
 
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Serryah said:
No. His own DOJ went after Hunter because he broke the law. And Biden was good with it.

Things that happened during this, and after it, are what turned it into politics and he realized that now things were no longer lawful or anything close to being that.

You know, like the House Committee on Oversight and Accountability subpoenaing him to appear, but then changing their minds from a public to a private meeting and when Hunter said yes to the public but no to the private, they threw fits for months (meanwhile other congressional members STILL haven't answered their subpoenas). Or the plea deal that was made but during the final formality suddenly things came up that had it rejected (and I think both sides in this are at fault; both political sides). Or the promise he'd "Go after Biden" if he got elected https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4966421-trump-revenge-tour-threats/

Considering the last bit and how likely it is, this was a last ditch to protect his kid from bullshit that would further ruin his life, and could likely endanger it, because once an addict, always an addict. Despite being clean for, IIRC 5 years? You honestly think he wouldn't backslide with all that kind of bullshit in his life? Yeah, he pardoned his kid, to protect and maybe save him, and appearances being what they are it looks really bad.

But blame him? Not really.
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White privilege.
 
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