Roe v. Wade overturned?

[Jinentonix]

Two Georgia deaths are tied to abortion restrictions. Experts say abortion pills they took are safe

The deaths of two women in Georgia have been tied to a state law that bans most abortions after roughly six weeks

abcnews.go.com

Investigation links Georgia's abortion ban to preventable deaths of 2 women

We’re learning more about the effects of abortion restrictions enacted after the Supreme Court struck down Roe v. Wade. ProPublica found at least two women in Georgia who died after being unable to get either a legal abortion or timely medical care. Committees examining pregnancy-related deaths...

www.pbs.org

Georgia’s abortion ban linked to Amber Thurman's death in ProPublica investigation: What to know

A ProPublica investigation found that 28-year-old mother Amber Thurman died as a result of Georgia's abortion laws. Here's what to know.

www.usatoday.com

But sure, the overturning of Roe saved lives!

Ask ANY biologist on the planet when life begins and 100% of them will tell you, "at the moment of conception". How many of those lives did Roe save?

And where exactly in R v W did it state that abortion on demand had to be funded by the taxpayer? Perhaps you can point me as to where in the ruling it stated such.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Ask ANY biologist on the planet when life begins and 100% of them will tell you, "at the moment of conception". How many of those lives did Roe save?

Irrelevant. By the way, most of them would say "when the molecules become sufficiently complex to replicate themselves."

And where exactly in R v W did it state that abortion on demand had to be funded by the taxpayer? Perhaps you can point me as to where in the ruling it stated such.

It didn't. Have you ever read the opinion? It's regarded in American legal circles as one of the worst-decided political compromises ever to be clothed in a black robe and called legal reasoning.

 

[Taxslave2]

Ask ANY biologist on the planet when life begins and 100% of them will tell you, "at the moment of conception

You are going to have a tough time finding a biologist that wasn't raised in a Catholic school that believes that.

 

[pgs]

You are going to have a tough time finding a biologist that wasn't raised in a Catholic school that believes that.

Why ?

 

[petros]

So maybe he should propose legislation that codifies abortion .

You are going to have a tough time finding a biologist that wasn't raised in a Catholic school that believes that

Silly goose, Catholics invented Science. Its a legal not a Catholic issue. Catholic say all life is sacred as decried by God to Moses Thall shakt not fucking murder. Abortion is murder.

Cant. Something decrimalized doesnt become a defacto Right post law revision. Same goes for the US and A. There wasnt and never will be a Right to abortion. The excused used by baby murders is that a fetus isnt a legal person established the filing of a birth certificate which is merely a receipt that the establishes a human as a legal person with full Rights and Duties.

Weirdly if you kill a pregnant woman youll be charged with a double homicide.

 

[Serryah]

Ask ANY biologist on the planet when life begins and 100% of them will tell you, "at the moment of conception".

Except "Any" Biologist doesn't mean ALL biologists.

And not all biologists have that belief, sorry.

How many of those lives did Roe save?

Doesn't matter.

This isn't about babies, that's been proven repeatedly. It's about control over women (only) and their reproductive rights.

 

[petros]

Ask ANY biologist on the planet when life begins and 100% of them will tell you, "at the moment of conception". How many of those lives did Roe save?

And where exactly in R v W did it state that abortion on demand had to be funded by the taxpayer? Perhaps you can point me as to where in the ruling it stated susuch.

How was legalization transformed into a Right? That is a nasty lie.

 

[pgs]

Silly goose, Catholics invented Science. Its a legal not a Catholic issue. Catholic say all life is sacred as decried by God to Moses Thall shakt not fucking murder. Abortion is murder.

Cant. Something decrimalized doesnt become a defacto Right post law revision. Same goes for the US and A. There wasnt and never will be a Right to abortion. The excused used by baby murders is that a fetus isnt a legal person established the filing of a birth certificate which is merely a receipt that the establishes a human as a legal person with full Rights and Duties.

Weirdly if you kill a pregnant woman youll be charged with a double homicide.

So you don’t like Catholics are they the only people with these beliefs?

 

[pgs]

Except "Any" Biologist doesn't mean ALL biologists.

And not all biologists have that belief, sorry.



Doesn't matter.

This isn't about babies, that's been proven repeatedly. It's about control over women (only) and their reproductive rights.

Let’s force an experimental gene altering vaccination on the population . Tell me about control over bodies .

 

[Taxslave2]

Why ?

Because that is wrong. Life begins at birth.

 

[Taxslave2]

Abortion is murder.

Abortion is not murder. That is a religious belief. Has nothing to do with biology.

 

[pgs]

Because that is wrong. Life begins at birth.

You seem pretty positive on that .

 

[Jinentonix]

Except "Any" Biologist doesn't mean ALL biologists.

And not all biologists have that belief, sorry.

Yeah, they do. Biology is all about the study of life. Any biologist who says life doesn't begin at conception is pushing bullshit narratives and should be stripped of their credentials.

Doesn't matter.

This isn't about babies, that's been proven repeatedly. It's about control over women (only) and their reproductive rights.

Yeah, it's not about babies, that's why Western nations are continually increasing immigration levels. Maybe if the irresponsible baby murderers actually let their unborn children live, we wouldn't "need" massive immigration.

 

[Jinentonix]

You are going to have a tough time finding a biologist that wasn't raised in a Catholic school that believes that.

Not really. It's not a "Christian Science belief". It's observable fact. At the moment of conception cell division starts taking place. Cell division = life.

 

[Jinentonix]

Because that is wrong. Life begins at birth.

No, it doesn't. The unborn aren't dead. They don't suddenly spring to life the moment they're pushed out. Doesn't work like that.

 

[Serryah]

Yeah, they do. Biology is all about the study of life. Any biologist who says life doesn't begin at conception is pushing bullshit narratives and should be stripped of their credentials.

I think it depends on what you mean by "life" when talking about a zygote and earlier stages. Is it TECHNICALLY life? Yes. So in that you're right.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7245522/#:~:text=View%20that%20human%20life%20begins,it%20must%20be%20one%20already.

The Scientific Consensus on When a Human's Life Begins - PubMed

Peer-reviewed journals in the biological and life sciences literature have published articles that represent the biological view that a human's life begins at fertilization ("the fertilization view"). As those statements are typically offered without explanation or citation, the fertilization...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

So 4% don't think "life" begins at conception.

But maybe then the question is or should be - is a fertilized egg a human. And in that case... no, no it's not.

The problem is the language; when people bring up "Life begins at conception" - the automatic view most people default to is "Life = human/personhood". Actual life, life, yes, provided it meets the criteria. But in the terms of abortion and its arguments, it's not actual life, it's actual personhood. Hence the huge debate about it.

Yeah, it's not about babies,

Exactly, the Religious and pro-forced birth people have proven it repeatedly.

that's why Western nations are continually increasing immigration levels.

... are... you serious in this or are you just being a dick? Because abortions have NOTHING to do with immigrating level increases.

Maybe if the irresponsible baby murderers

... Like people who masturbate and people who get a period? Because in all instances, those are people who COULD have kids, but don't 'make' them.

actually let their unborn children live,

So the people who DO want their kids, but nature said "Fuck you" and killed their baby instead... that's the person's fault?

Please continue to show you don't get who pregnancy in women works.

we wouldn't "need" massive immigration.

One word fights all that stupidity you just said, Jin.

Choice.

Unless you are forcing women to birth babies.... is that what you are demanding, Jinny? All people able to get pregnant HAVE to, and they HAVE to have the baby and they HAVE to have more after that is born?

You're supportive of your daughters and granddaughters being forced into being birthing machines then?

Because while I'm sure you'd deny it, that IS what you are saying, Jin. At least man up and honestly admit that's what you want.

 

[petros]

Because that is wrong. Life begins at birth.

No it doesn't. Thats the dtupiest thing youve ever said

 

[petros]

Abortion is not murder. That is a religious belief. Has nothing to do with biology.

Yes it is and no its not? Is your Euro-Hippy Wiccan wife feeding you malarkey?

 

[Dixie Cup]

Two Georgia deaths are tied to abortion restrictions. Experts say abortion pills they took are safe

The deaths of two women in Georgia have been tied to a state law that bans most abortions after roughly six weeks

abcnews.go.com

Investigation links Georgia's abortion ban to preventable deaths of 2 women

We’re learning more about the effects of abortion restrictions enacted after the Supreme Court struck down Roe v. Wade. ProPublica found at least two women in Georgia who died after being unable to get either a legal abortion or timely medical care. Committees examining pregnancy-related deaths...

www.pbs.org

Georgia’s abortion ban linked to Amber Thurman's death in ProPublica investigation: What to know

A ProPublica investigation found that 28-year-old mother Amber Thurman died as a result of Georgia's abortion laws. Here's what to know.

www.usatoday.com

But sure, the overturning of Roe saved lives!

Actually, the take is this: one woman that died did so because of the "abortion pill" she took. I'm sure there'll be many more deaths due to this pill but hey, that's the risk one takes I guess.

 

[Serryah]