Non-Coalition Coalition that’s Definitely NOT a Coalition…

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This is an old quote, but the situation hasn’t changed in the better part of a year.

Jagmeet Singh has broken up with Justin Trudeau this week…but at least he’s got something to show for it. The NDP/Liberals got the Liberal/NDP government to implement pharmacare – Finally.
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Well, not to implement pharmacare, but to agree to a pharmacare framework. And not in time for the original very urgent deadline, but in time for a second, totally-as-urgent deadline. And not real, universal pharmacare, but coverage for birth control and diabetes medication. But that’s OK! Mr. Trudeau has promised that this is only the first step, and the word of the guy who swore up and down to end first-past-the-post elections is one to be trusted wholeheartedly.
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A Thursday 1/2 a year ago now…

But Jagmeet got to be relevant & the non-coalition wasn’t a complete loss (for the Liberals, anyway).
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The NDP/Liberals got to support the Liberal/NDPs regardless of what they did or didn’t do. They supported their stonewalling in committees, turned a blind eye to various ethics violations, and helped keep what has become a deeply unpopular government afloat. But hey: at least they have terrible recent by-election results and stagnant overall support to show for it, & they got the government to implement dental care.
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Well, not comprehensive national dental care, like they wanted. And the rollout hasn’t exactly adhered to the original deadlines. But a federally run, comprehensive national program is (probably?) coming. And when it’s here, the NDP will be off somewhere in the distance, screaming hoarsely about how it was actually their idea to begin with…but the NDP/Liberals got the Liberal/NDP to pick a lane and to recognize a Palestinian state!

Well, not actually to recognize a Palestinian state, since they did allow the Prime Minister’s Office to take a red pen to an Opposition Day motion. They asked politely, after all. But what’s the difference between a call to “officially recognize the State of Palestine” and a call to “work with international partners […] towards the establishment of the State of Palestine,” really? Indeed, the NDP will change the world one heavily edited, face-saving, ambiguously worded statement at a time.
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Which is over, in non-name name that’s definitely not a name-type named something or another…& Jagmeet and his NDP’ers can vote however their heart’s desire now, as long as it doesn’t conflict with anyone’s pension eligibility that comes to fruition in February 2025, etc…on a case by case basis, etc…right up to October 20th (or 27th, is the winds blow that way), of 2025.
The sad thing is if Singh would have swallowed his pride and embraced the freedom convoy he could have taken down the Trudeau Liberals and had the NDP as official opposition, despite his party being effectively broke . Now they are still broke and tied to the liberal mess . So much for political science majors having the pulse of a nation .
 
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The sad thing is if Singh would have swallowed his pride and embraced the freedom convoy he could have taken down the Trudeau Liberals and had the NDP as official opposition, despite his party being effectively broke . Now they are still broke and tied to the liberal mess . So much for political science majors having the pulse of a nation .
That trucker convoy was still out on the prairies when Jagmeet was finishing Justin’s sentences…like they’d already had some woke-leftist mind-meld, and that was before they came out of the closet with their relationship.

Jagmeet was balls deep in condemning non-union working class people that had the audacity to question their betters in wanting autonomy over their own health & bodies, and just wanted a voice over the mandatory (if you wanted to keep your job in certain sectors, or be able to buy food for your families, or go to a pharmacy, or get onto public transport, etc…) vaccinations, etc…

I smell what you’re cooking, but that wasn’t in the NDP DNA.
 

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That trucker convoy was still out on the prairies when Jagmeet was finishing Justin’s sentences…like they’d already had some woke-leftist mind-meld, and that was before they came out of the closet with their relationship.

Jagmeet was balls deep in condemning non-union working class people that had the audacity to question their betters in wanting autonomy over their own health & bodies, and just wanted a voice over the mandatory (if you wanted to keep your job in certain sectors, or be able to buy food for your families, or go to a pharmacy, or get onto public transport, etc…) vaccinations, etc…

I smell what you’re cooking, but that wasn’t in the NDP DNA.
No but Mulcair was able to use liberal dysfunction as a vehicle into Stornaway . Singh had his chance as well .
 
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Pressed Thursday by reporters to say whether or not he has confidence in the Liberal government, Singh once again waffled, even when pushed directly by Laura Stone of the Globe and Mail about his quite clear political posturing.

So, lest there be any doubt, we should all be quite clear there is no plan. It should be noted, however, that this lack of plan is in full alignment with the general lack of clarity and mission the NDP and Jagmeet Singh have exhibited for the past several years. The playbook has been the same for some time now on every issue: Singh complains bitterly on X about how horrible Justin Trudeau is and then does absolutely nothing about it.

The Liberals and the Conservatives are on a collision course for the next election, the NDP will be powerless by-standers and, more than likely, collateral damage. Jagmeet Singh’s luck of failing upward is over and he has no plan. The NDP should move on from his vacuous leadership.
 

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So, it’s out of the socialist pan and into the separatist fire.
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On the heels of NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh declaring he’s no longer going to prop up Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s government, Yves-Francois Blanchet and the Bloc Quebecois say they’ll be happy to do the same for a price.
The separatist party says its price for allowing the Trudeau government to survive non-confidence votes coming from Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre when Parliament resumes next week — assuming Trudeau doesn’t prorogue Parliament — will be major concessions to Quebec.

The BQ’s list of demands, a source told CP, is more control of immigration in Quebec, including increased funding, eliminating federal support for Canada’s oil sector, more money for seniors and health care and reducing or eliminating Ottawa’s encroachment of provincial powers.

In other words, if the Trudeau government wants to survive, it will have to satisfy the BQ while negotiating with the separatist party with a knife to its throat. Good times.
 
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So, it’s out of the socialist pan and into the separatist fire.
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On the heels of NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh declaring he’s no longer going to prop up Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s government, Yves-Francois Blanchet and the Bloc Quebecois say they’ll be happy to do the same for a price.
The separatist party says its price for allowing the Trudeau government to survive non-confidence votes coming from Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre when Parliament resumes next week — assuming Trudeau doesn’t prorogue Parliament — will be major concessions to Quebec.

The BQ’s list of demands, a source told CP, is more control of immigration in Quebec, including increased funding, eliminating federal support for Canada’s oil sector, more money for seniors and health care and reducing or eliminating Ottawa’s encroachment of provincial powers.

In other words, if the Trudeau government wants to survive, it will have to satisfy the BQ while negotiating with the separatist party with a knife to its throat. Good times.
No different when they were official opposition.
 

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Well, Tuesday September 24th, 2024 is the first opposition day in Parliament from the sounds of things…

Conservatives WILL introduce the confidence vote. The Liberals WILL have confidence in themselves…at least vote wise.

The Green Party are irrelevant. Sorry Lizzy May, glad to hear you’re still alive but….

So…that leaves the Bloc & the NDP. In this game of chicken where nobody wants to support Trudeau and the liberals…which one will blink and prop up the government?

Assuming the Bloc votes first (in an alphabetical B before N sort of thing), and knowing the NDP have “Torn Up” or “Ripped Up” or whatever the non-coalition coalition that was definitely not a coalition type-coalition…’cuz they couldn’t stomach the Liberal/NDP any longer…& assuming the vote is something simple and not “Carbon Tax” or whatever…

Let’s say the vote is just purely, “Do you have confidence in the liberal government?” If the Bloc doesn’t support the Liberals and vote before the NDP, will the NDP show that they are still the NDP/Liberals (?) knowing that all pending legislation gets flushed including their magic bribery beans? Probably Jagmeet’s pension, etc…?

It will be interesting to see who blinks first. Maybe the Bloc will support the liberals and throw Singh a bone, but that’s not in their best interests, As the NDP was pretty close to the Bloc in yesterday’s by-election. Maybe the Bloc will spin it as we’re gonna milk the Liberals (& in turn the rest of Canada) dry first for future potential support in successive oncoming confidence votes?
 

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Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre confirmed Wednesday his party is putting forward a non-confidence motion next week and the wording is very straight forward.

“The House has no confidence in the Prime Minister and the Government,” the motion will state, a spokesperson for Poilievre has confirmed to CTV News.

Short. Sweet. Simple. Yes or No.
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Listen to this NDP greasiness…asked a simple question…
So…that leaves the Bloc & the NDP. In this game of chicken where nobody wants to support Trudeau and the liberals…which one will blink and prop up the government?
“Peter Julian, you greasy shit, we already know how EVERYONE (Relevant, sorry Lizzy May) EXCEPT the NDP Will vote next week on the nonconfidence motion, & on that note how will the NDP vote?”
“Mark Gerretson, what did the Liberals Give the Bloc this time to purchase their vote?”

“Andrew Scheer, why does your party want an election now when most Canadians don’t want an election now?”
Following the announcement of the end of the NDP-Liberal confidence and supply agreement, a new national survey reveals that 47 per cent of Canadians would support calling a federal election, while only 34 per cent would prefer not to.

Among Canadians who want a federal election to be called, 69 per cent would like to have it this fall.

The survey also revealed that two out of three Canadians, or roughly 65 per cent, lack confidence in Trudeau's ability to govern with the NDP support, with 40 per cent saying they are not confident at all.

Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre called Singh's announcement a "stunt" and criticized him for not saying whether he would vote non-confidence in the government.
I come to expect the liberals to be just dishonest and deceitful after the last nine years and countless scandals and ethics violations, and so on and so forth, so big surprise with the Liberal here.

Singh is setting up the next stunt for tomorrow when he can get on his apple box in parliament & pretend that he’s actually the opposition now again, as opposed to the opposition to the opposition like the last 2 1/2 years at least?
 

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“Peter Julian, you greasy shit, we already know how EVERYONE (Relevant, sorry Lizzy May) EXCEPT the NDP Will vote next week on the nonconfidence motion, & on that note how will the NDP vote?”
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Anyway, Jagmeet is making the difference known between the NDP/Liberals & the Liberal/NDP’s…with the big…”Change The Rules Tour”…
The what now?
Yeah, exactly. This is from two weeks ago:
 

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Trudeau says that Canada is "not for sale" yet that's exactly what is happening with Bill C-293. He's selling us out big time. Unfortunately, this bill has passed & is waiting for Royal Assent. We must prevent this from happening because our sovereignty has just been sold out from under us if this truly becomes law.
 
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Poilievre introduced his non-confidence motion against the minority government on Tuesday. Already, the Bloc Québécois and the NDP have said that they will not support it when it goes to a vote on Wednesday, meaning the Liberals will hold onto power.

“The problem that I have with this motion is that it is too simple? It seems to me that we could have supported it with something more relevant,” said Bloc MP Sebastien Lemire.
 

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Trudeau says that Canada is "not for sale" yet that's exactly what is happening with Bill C-293. He's selling us out big time. Unfortunately, this bill has passed & is waiting for Royal Assent. We must prevent this from happening because our sovereignty has just been sold out from under us if this truly becomes law.
Canada has nothing left to sell and has been living on a line of credit for the past 30 years or more.