Non-Coalition Coalition that’s Definitely NOT a Coalition…
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For the first real change in the last year or so, the NDP is going down in the last pole, so this below isn’t going to happen:
Poilievre asks Singh to pull out of Trudeau confidence deal to prompt fall election — CTV News
Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre is asking NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh to pull out of the deal he has with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, to force an election this fall.
The Official Opposition leader’s suggestion is to side with his party and “vote non-confidence in the government this September,” when the House of Commons resumes, “to trigger a carbon tax election” in October of this year, rather than wait until the fixed election date of October 20th, 2025 (or the golden parachute for everybody day of October 27th,2025).
Speaking to reporters, Poilievre pointed to the rumoured Trudeau cabinet shuffle or leadership shakeup that did not materialize this summer as evidence that “nothing will change.”
“He will not quit. He must be fired, and the person to do it is Jagmeet Singh,” Poilievre said. In the letter, Poilievre accuses Singh of keeping the deal going so that he can qualify for his MP pension. There are a number of MPs that need to keep their seats until next October in order to qualify for a pension.
However, because Singh was first elected in a byelection in February 2019, he’s poised to qualify for his in six months, well before the deal with the Liberals is set to expire.
OK, I know it was just a typo, but "going down in the last pole" sounds really funny (and vaguely dirty).
It does doesn’t it? “Pull out of the costly coalition and vote non-confidence in the government this September to trigger a carbon tax election in October of THIS YEAR. Or you will forever be known as ‘Sellout Singh,’” he added.OK, I know it was just a typo, but "going down in the last pole" sounds really funny (and vaguely dirty).
Poilievre urges Singh to pull out of deal with Liberals and trigger fall election — National Post
The Conservatives want a 'carbon tax election' in October
Probably easier just to spell "poll" right.It does doesn’t it? “Pull out of the costly coalition and vote non-confidence in the government this September to trigger a carbon tax election in October of THIS YEAR. Or you will forever be known as ‘Sellout Singh,’” he added.
The NDP has idled along for the last year sitting at about 18%…until this last week where they’ve dropped…perhaps is a better way to have worded it.
Poilievre urges Singh to pull out of deal with Liberals and trigger fall election — National Post
The Conservatives want a 'carbon tax election' in Octoberapple.news
Liberals confident deal with NDP to keep them in power will hold until June — CBC News
Government House Leader Karina Gould said Tuesday she's confident the NDP supply-and-confidence agreement that keeps the Liberal government in power will hold until its expected end date in June 2025.
Yeah, pretty much.
…but what would it mean…if let’s say “officially” Jagmeet pulls the plug on the Non-coalition coalition that’s definitely not a coalition-type coalition supply closet agreement thing he’s got going on with Justin? Will that change anything or would it just be a ploy…. So that he doesn’t have to just grumble about the Liberal/NDP in the evenings, and then back them, regardless of whatever they do during the day.
If he pulls the plug then maybe, he can complain about the Liberal/NDP during the day also, and then still back regardless of what they do?
The Conservatives have commanded a polling lead of around 20 per cent in national polls for more than a year, while the NDP has lingered in third place and are projected to lose some of their 24 seats. Singh still insisted that only his party can fight the Conservatives Don Quixote-style but seems to have forgotten that the Liberal Party and the NDP, when convenient, are actually two different things at this point, more or less.
“In the next federal election, Canadians will choose between Pierre Poilievre’s callous cuts or hope. Hope that when we stand united, we win. That Canada’s middle class will once again thrive together,” Singh said. “It’s always impossible until it isn’t. It can’t be done until someone does it.”
NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh pulls out of supply and confidence agreement with Liberals — National Post
Singh's announcement comes less than two weeks before Parliament is set to resume
We need to be unburdened by what has been but still is?The Conservatives have commanded a polling lead of around 20 per cent in national polls for more than a year, while the NDP has lingered in third place and are projected to lose some of their 24 seats. Singh still insisted that only his party can fight the Conservatives Don Quixote-style but seems to have gotten that the Liberal Party and the NDP, when convenient, are actually two different things at this point, more or less.
“In the next federal election, Canadians will choose between Pierre Poilievre’s callous cuts or hope. Hope that when we stand united, we win. That Canada’s middle class will once again thrive together,” Singh said. “It’s always impossible until it isn’t. It can’t be done until someone does it.”
NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh pulls out of supply and confidence agreement with Liberals — National Post
Singh's announcement comes less than two weeks before Parliament is set to resume
“From the Ottawa Parking Crisis to today” it lasted longer than most Non-coalition coalitions that definitely are not a coalition-type coalition supply closet agreement I guess.
It’s been a goat rodeo from before the announcement of the NDP/Liberals back when Justin/Jagmeet where still finishing each other’s sentences, but it took a threat to “organized” labour to end this?
In the last Leger poll released in March 2022, the Liberals were in the lead at 33% support, the Conservatives were in second at 28% and the NDP in third at 22%. In the latest Leger poll for Postmedia — released last week — the Conservatives were at 43%, the Liberals at 25% and the NDP at 15%. Just say’n…
NDP announces end to agreement with Liberals
The NDP are withdrawing from a deal that effectively propped up the Liberal minority government by supporting it through budget bills and confidence votes.Re...
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Lately, Singh can’t make it through a day without someone — usually Poilievre — accusing him of being Trudeau’s self-serving lackey, just waiting to cash in on a full government pension before finding a reason to bail on Canada’s deeply unpopular government.
Singh would certainly be worthy of his “sellout” nickname if — as leader of Canada’s sole labour party — he chose to respond merely with words to the Liberal’s move that sent the country’s locked out/striking rail workers back with binding arbitration last month. While he took his criticism of Trudeau further than mere words — he didn’t go far enough. Like the Rolex on Singh’s wrist, today’s move was about showboating, and nothing more.
Amy Hamm: Jagmeet Singh's exit from deal changes nothing — National Post
Rolex socialism remains intact
The Liberals will need NDP support on a vote-by-vote basis to avoid an election before next fall. Singh gave every impression he is going to keep on giving it. He is no Jack Layton. And there is no orange wave on the horizon.
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So, the deal is off. NDP leader Jagmeet Singh apparently located a few scraps of dignity in some long-forgotten kitchen drawer or closet. Just minutes before Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was set for a press conference to give himself yet more credit for the NDP’s national school-lunch program, Singh announced he was calling off the NDP’s two-and-a-half-year-old confidence-and-supply agreement with the governing Liberals.
“Canadians are fighting a battle … for the future of the middle class,” Singh pronounced. “Justin Trudeau has proven again and again he will always cave to corporate greed.” Reports suggest it was the Liberals last month ordering the railway unions back to work and into binding arbitration with their employers that finally soured the milk in Dipperland.
“In the next federal election, Canadians will choose between Pierre Poilievre’s callous cuts or hope” Singh continued, casting himself as the Barack Obama figure in the forthcoming contest — “hope,” he specified, “that when we stand united, we win; that Canada’s middle class will once again thrive together.”
Because a Canadian political announcement must come with some impenetrable bafflegab, Singh added the following: “It’s always impossible until it isn’t. It can’t be done until someone does it.”
Up is left. Forward is up. United we dance. The future.
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All the reasons for the NDP to cut the Liberals loose on Wednesday were so myriad and obvious that it’s difficult to remember what on earth the point of this agreement was supposed to be. Singh got no cabinet seats out of it, maybe just a few “thanks for your contribution” pats on the back from Trudeau and his ministers along the way. But the NDP essentially gave away any policy wins to the Liberals.
New Democrats understand better than anyone else the fundamentally amoral nature of the Liberal Party of Canada. They understand the Liberals’ all but total conflation of the party’s best interests with the country’s, and therefore its utter lack of shame. Anything the Liberal party does, anything it says, even if it’s completely the opposite of it did and said yesterday, is precisely the medicine Canada needs. And the NDP understands as well as the Conservatives do how mainstream Canadian media privileges the Liberals in that regard.
And yet, the NDP scarcely seemed prepared to live with the agreement they signed. Did the party really think trotting Singh out twice a week to denounce the Liberals’ corporatist, neo-liberal perfidy, with no answer ready for the inevitable question — then why are you supporting them for God’s sake? — was the path to eventual victory?
“Canadians are fighting a battle … for the future of the middle class,” Singh pronounced. “Justin Trudeau has proven again and again he will always cave to corporate greed.” Reports suggest it was the Liberals last month ordering the railway unions back to work and into binding arbitration with their employers that finally soured the milk in Dipperland.
“In the next federal election, Canadians will choose between Pierre Poilievre’s callous cuts or hope” Singh continued, casting himself as the Barack Obama figure in the forthcoming contest — “hope,” he specified, “that when we stand united, we win; that Canada’s middle class will once again thrive together.”
Because a Canadian political announcement must come with some impenetrable bafflegab, Singh added the following: “It’s always impossible until it isn’t. It can’t be done until someone does it.”
Up is left. Forward is up. United we dance. The future.
Chris Selley: The NDP ends a defective deal, but its defective leader remains — National Post
New Democrats are winning hearts and minds in B.C., Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba ... what's Jagmeet Singh's excuse?
New Democrats understand better than anyone else the fundamentally amoral nature of the Liberal Party of Canada. They understand the Liberals’ all but total conflation of the party’s best interests with the country’s, and therefore its utter lack of shame. Anything the Liberal party does, anything it says, even if it’s completely the opposite of it did and said yesterday, is precisely the medicine Canada needs. And the NDP understands as well as the Conservatives do how mainstream Canadian media privileges the Liberals in that regard.
And yet, the NDP scarcely seemed prepared to live with the agreement they signed. Did the party really think trotting Singh out twice a week to denounce the Liberals’ corporatist, neo-liberal perfidy, with no answer ready for the inevitable question — then why are you supporting them for God’s sake? — was the path to eventual victory?
This is an old quote, but the situation hasn’t changed in the better part of a year.
Jagmeet Singh has broken up with Justin Trudeau this week…but at least he’s got something to show for it. The NDP/Liberals got the Liberal/NDP government to implement pharmacare – Finally.
Well, not to implement pharmacare, but to agree to a pharmacare framework. And not in time for the original very urgent deadline, but in time for a second, totally-as-urgent deadline. And not real, universal pharmacare, but coverage for birth control and diabetes medication. But that’s OK! Mr. Trudeau has promised that this is only the first step, and the word of the guy who swore up and down to end first-past-the-post elections is one to be trusted wholeheartedly.
A Thursday 1/2 a year ago now…
But Jagmeet got to be relevant & the non-coalition wasn’t a complete loss (for the Liberals, anyway).
The NDP/Liberals got to support the Liberal/NDPs regardless of what they did or didn’t do. They supported their stonewalling in committees, turned a blind eye to various ethics violations, and helped keep what has become a deeply unpopular government afloat. But hey: at least they have terrible recent by-election results and stagnant overall support to show for it, & they got the government to implement dental care.
Well, not comprehensive national dental care, like they wanted. And the rollout hasn’t exactly adhered to the original deadlines. But a federally run, comprehensive national program is (probably?) coming. And when it’s here, the NDP will be off somewhere in the distance, screaming hoarsely about how it was actually their idea to begin with…but the NDP/Liberals got the Liberal/NDP to pick a lane and to recognize a Palestinian state!
Well, not actually to recognize a Palestinian state, since they did allow the Prime Minister’s Office to take a red pen to an Opposition Day motion. They asked politely, after all. But what’s the difference between a call to “officially recognize the State of Palestine” and a call to “work with international partners […] towards the establishment of the State of Palestine,” really? Indeed, the NDP will change the world one heavily edited, face-saving, ambiguously worded statement at a time.
Which is over, in non-name name that’s definitely not a name-type named something or another…& Jagmeet and his NDP’ers can vote however their heart’s desire now, as long as it doesn’t conflict with anyone’s pension eligibility that comes to fruition in February 2025, etc…on a case by case basis, etc…right up to October 20th (or 27th, is the winds blow that way), of 2025.
Opinion: Jagmeet Singh to NDP caucus: We’ve accomplished basically nothing, so our work here is done — The Globe and Mail
The party has come a long way since signing its now-ended supply-and-confidence deal with the Liberal government in 2022. That way is mostly down, but, uh, still