Election 2024
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A Washington D.C. grand jury . But hey Washington is fairly close to New York .
The state of New York.
Biden had nothing to do with it.
Even if it was the Federal DOJ, he still had nothing to do with it as the DOJ is independent of the President.
The AG is appointed by the POTUS and confirmed by the Senate, Jack Smith was appointed by the AG and not confirmed by the legislative branch, so a direct link to the executive branch.
Point made - the AG is political and appointed by the President and can be fired so thus they are tied to the President.
Special Council is different.
EXPLAINER: What are special counsels and what do they do?
The appointment of a special counsel to oversee the Justice Department probes into the discovery of classified documents at the home and former office of President Joe Biden has focused renewed attention on the role such prosecutors have played in modern American history.
apnews.com
"A special counsel is an attorney appointed to investigate, and possibly prosecute, a case in which the Justice Department perceives itself as having a conflict or where it’s deemed to be in the public interest to have someone outside the government come in and take responsibility for a matter."
And an interesting read from 1999 about the topic:
Attorney General's Special Counsel Regulations
Testimony by Michael Davidson, Visiting Fellow, Governmental Studies, the Brookings Institution, before the House Subcommittee on Commercial And Administrative Law, Committee on Rules, on September 15, 1999 on the Judiciary, House of Representatives
www.brookings.edu
They may be tied because they're hired by the DOJ, but they're also meant to be used for impartiality BECAUSE the DOJ has or might have a conflict of interest in a case.
In this case, it's still the state of New York that brought the charges against Trump, not the DOJ.
Actually the last set of charges came from the District of Columbia , by a special council that was never approved by congress .Point made - the AG is political and appointed by the President and can be fired so thus they are tied to the President.
Special Council is different.
EXPLAINER: What are special counsels and what do they do?
The appointment of a special counsel to oversee the Justice Department probes into the discovery of classified documents at the home and former office of President Joe Biden has focused renewed attention on the role such prosecutors have played in modern American history.
"A special counsel is an attorney appointed to investigate, and possibly prosecute, a case in which the Justice Department perceives itself as having a conflict or where it’s deemed to be in the public interest to have someone outside the government come in and take responsibility for a matter."
And an interesting read from 1999 about the topic:
Attorney General's Special Counsel Regulations
Testimony by Michael Davidson, Visiting Fellow, Governmental Studies, the Brookings Institution, before the House Subcommittee on Commercial And Administrative Law, Committee on Rules, on September 15, 1999 on the Judiciary, House of Representatives
They may be tied because they're hired by the DOJ, but they're also meant to be used for impartiality BECAUSE the DOJ has or might have a conflict of interest in a case.
In this case, it's still the state of New York that brought the charges against Trump, not the DOJ.
Agreed if Jack Smith was approved by congress to give him the independent power, but he was only hired by the AG under the FBI and working for the AG clauses of the constitution he is not independentPoint made - the AG is political and appointed by the President and can be fired so thus they are tied to the President.
Special Council is different.
EXPLAINER: What are special counsels and what do they do?
The appointment of a special counsel to oversee the Justice Department probes into the discovery of classified documents at the home and former office of President Joe Biden has focused renewed attention on the role such prosecutors have played in modern American history.
"A special counsel is an attorney appointed to investigate, and possibly prosecute, a case in which the Justice Department perceives itself as having a conflict or where it’s deemed to be in the public interest to have someone outside the government come in and take responsibility for a matter."
And an interesting read from 1999 about the topic:
Attorney General's Special Counsel Regulations
Testimony by Michael Davidson, Visiting Fellow, Governmental Studies, the Brookings Institution, before the House Subcommittee on Commercial And Administrative Law, Committee on Rules, on September 15, 1999 on the Judiciary, House of Representatives
They may be tied because they're hired by the DOJ, but they're also meant to be used for impartiality BECAUSE the DOJ has or might have a conflict of interest in a case.
In this case, it's still the state of New York that brought the charges against Trump, not the DOJ.
Funny how you say if he was approved by congress that'd somehow mean he'd be independent.
Wouldn't that make him JUST as beholden to Congress?
What about previous DOJ Special Counsels? Or do those not matter because they were before now and suddenly, because it's Trump, the law is magically "not being followed"? That those DOJ's weren't "biased" but now, suddenly, they are?