Two years into the Trudeau 2.0 Minority Term, which day will Justin call the election that only he wants?

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Liberal strategist Andrew Perez, one of the first Liberals to call for Trudeau to resign after the party’s shocking byelection defeat in June, told the National Post that the Liberals could “draw a bit of inspiration” from the U.S. Democrats after Joe Biden announced he was stepping down.

So far, only former Liberal MP Frank Baylis has openly said he is considering a leadership run. This is the same Frank Baylis of “Baylis Medical” got the liberals gave a sole source contract to during Covid for $237,000,000.00 for ventilators.
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Ron in Regina

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Several MPs who spoke to the Star in recent days said they still want to see a cabinet shuffle before Parliament returns for the fall session. Some shared specific ideas for who should be moved, with four Liberal sources naming Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland. Some also welcomed the idea of former Bank of Canada governor Mark Carney joining Trudeau’s team.
Not Team Liberal, but Team Trudeau.
“Clearly, what’s happening is not working,” said one Liberal MP who, like the others quoted in this story, agreed to speak on condition of anonymity = a unofficially official announcement directly from the PMO.
Freeland’s political future has been in the spotlight since the Globe and Mail reported earlier this month that the prime minister’s staff was unhappy with some of her economic messaging while the party is reeling from its byelection defeat in a safe Toronto riding.
“Freeland should definitely get moved,” the MP said, adding that “hopefully” Carney could be enticed to somehow join the team, possibly as finance minister.
Since then, Freeland has refused to say if she received assurances from Justin Trudeau himself that she would be staying on in her current role, instead insisting that she has the “confidence” she needs to do her job effectively.
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Ron in Regina

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Adding to the bad news the party and Prime Minister Trudeau have experienced, recently a new poll by Leger for The National Post shows Pierre Poilievre and the Conservatives at 41% support against 23% for the Trudeau Liberals and 20% for Jagmeet Singh’s NDP.

Those numbers match the stubborn stickiness of various polling numbers in favour of the Conservatives.
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In fact, the last time Trudeau led Poilievre in Canadians’ preference for prime minister was in May 2023. As of July 29, 2024, Poilievre is preferred by 29% to Trudeau’s 16%.

Since then the Conservatives’ trend line has been consistently up with the opposite true for the Liberals. The NDP trend line is relatively flat over that time.

Not surprisingly the province giving the highest support to the Conservatives is Alberta at 63%, with Quebec offering only 24% to the Poilievre team.

The Liberals’ best score comes from Atlantic Canada at 30%. Perhaps that tax break on home heating oil has paid off, but Ssshhhhh!!

Only 8% of Albertans support the Liberals.

There are a number of likely reasons for the Liberal’s poor showing.

Economic worries are top of mind for people and that doesn’t bode well for the party in charge.

Trudeau fatigue is a real thing. He has gone from a national and international darling to a silly, dress-up fanatic on the world stage and an ethics challenged, often tone-deaf and arrogant leader in the minds of more and more of us at home.
 
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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s new minister of labour and seniors thinks his party is fully capable of pulling off an upset in next year’s election.
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The blue-grit-Paul Martin-era-political-wonk doesn’t like labels. But Steven MacKinnon is either delusional or a soothsayer.
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“People want Justin Trudeau to succeed. They want Canada to succeed. And I think at the end of the day, that will be an essential part of the ingredients for victory,” said MacKinnon in an exclusive interview with the National Post last week.
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MacKinnon, who was recently sworn in as a full-time cabinet member after serving as interim House leader and chief government whip, isn’t kidding.
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“Of course, I see my party winning the next election,” he said.
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But Canadians are fed up with Trudeau, whose approval rating stands at only 29 per cent while the Conservatives enjoy an 18-point lead in the polls.
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The Liberals have not generated a single surplus since coming to power in 2015. The deficit has skyrocketed to $40 billion this year, and they have implemented a carbon tax and raised taxes on the wealthiest.
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For months, the Trudeau Liberals have been hammering the idea that Canada is in a better financial spot than any other country in the world. Of course, economists might take issue with that claim.

Twelve years ago, so would MacKinnon.
“Like Paul Martin, today’s Liberals must also rededicate themselves to eliminating the scourge of deficit and debt,” he wrote in a 2012 op-ed.
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“The Liberal party is the party of fiscal prudence, of making careful choices.”

The polling suggests voters aren’t buying the message. But MacKinnon seems to expect Canadians will have some sort of epiphany in the upcoming year.

That doesn’t make him crazy, just loyal, says longtime friend David Herle.
 
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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s new minister of labour and seniors thinks his party is fully capable of pulling off an upset in next year’s election.
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The blue-grit-Paul Martin-era-political-wonk doesn’t like labels. But Steven MacKinnon is either delusional or a soothsayer.
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“People want Justin Trudeau to succeed. They want Canada to succeed. And I think at the end of the day, that will be an essential part of the ingredients for victory,” said MacKinnon in an exclusive interview with the National Post last week.
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MacKinnon, who was recently sworn in as a full-time cabinet member after serving as interim House leader and chief government whip, isn’t kidding.
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“Of course, I see my party winning the next election,” he said.
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But Canadians are fed up with Trudeau, whose approval rating stands at only 29 per cent while the Conservatives enjoy an 18-point lead in the polls.
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The Liberals have not generated a single surplus since coming to power in 2015. The deficit has skyrocketed to $40 billion this year, and they have implemented a carbon tax and raised taxes on the wealthiest.
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For months, the Trudeau Liberals have been hammering the idea that Canada is in a better financial spot than any other country in the world. Of course, economists might take issue with that claim.

Twelve years ago, so would MacKinnon.
“Like Paul Martin, today’s Liberals must also rededicate themselves to eliminating the scourge of deficit and debt,” he wrote in a 2012 op-ed.
View attachment 23951Now he says “society has evolved.”

“The Liberal party is the party of fiscal prudence, of making careful choices.”

The polling suggests voters aren’t buying the message. But MacKinnon seems to expect Canadians will have some sort of epiphany in the upcoming year.

That doesn’t make him crazy, just loyal, says longtime friend David Herle.
With markets crashing, its not getting better for Liberals. The word recession is bouncing around.
 

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Montreal man who says he was testing system fined for voting twice in 2019 election
David Gilchrist was fined $1,250 for voting in two different ridings

Author of the article:Montreal Gazette
Published Aug 06, 2024 • Last updated 2 days ago • 1 minute read

A Montreal man who claimed he was trying to test Canada’s election system has been fined $1,250 for voting twice in the 2019 federal election.


The Commissioner of Canada Elections said Tuesday that David Gilchrist used a special ballot to vote in the riding of Notre-Dame-de-Grâce—Westmount on Sept. 23, 2019 and then used his father’s voter information card to cast another ballot in the St-Laurent riding on Oct. 11.

The day after his second vote, he admitted to two Elections Canada officials that he voted twice, telling them he was trying to test the electoral system, according to the office of the commissioner, which is responsible for enforcing the Canada Elections Act.

Gilchrist had worked as an election official in municipal, provincial and federal elections in Canada, according to the commissioner. He was also a member of Canadian government observation missions that monitored Ukrainian presidential elections in 2004 and 2014 and was an election observer with the International Civilian Response Corps — CANADEM, a non-governmental organization, during a 2006 election in Haiti.

The commissioner’s office said Gilchrist’s “clear degree of intention” was an aggravating factor that led to a higher fine.
 

Ron in Regina

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Transport Minister Pablo Rodriguez is expected to launch a campaign for the leadership of the Quebec Liberal Party soon, Liberal sources say, leaving the party without a vital operator in the province.

Nothing is set in stone yet, but Rodriguez is assessing the level of support he could obtain from the QLP members and caucus, according to sources familiar with his thinking.
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His office declined an interview request from the National Post and did not want to comment on this article. A source close to him said there isn’t “any timetable at this point” for an announcement.

With Liberals now struggling to recruit candidates, even in the province where they have shown the most resilience, while poll numbers crater across the rest of the country, losing one of their most prominent ministers could spell trouble for the party.

“He’s a big fish, absolutely, in terms of the Quebec caucus and so, it would be a major loss from the perspective of the Liberal Party of Canada in Quebec. The fact that we are talking about this is not a good sign,” said Daniel Béland, the director of the McGill Institute for the Study of Canada.
 

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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s new minister of labour and seniors thinks his party is fully capable of pulling off an upset in next year’s election.
View attachment 23944
The blue-grit-Paul Martin-era-political-wonk doesn’t like labels. But Steven MacKinnon is either delusional or a soothsayer.
View attachment 23945
“People want Justin Trudeau to succeed. They want Canada to succeed. And I think at the end of the day, that will be an essential part of the ingredients for victory,” said MacKinnon in an exclusive interview with the National Post last week.
View attachment 23946
MacKinnon, who was recently sworn in as a full-time cabinet member after serving as interim House leader and chief government whip, isn’t kidding.
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“Of course, I see my party winning the next election,” he said.
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But Canadians are fed up with Trudeau, whose approval rating stands at only 29 per cent while the Conservatives enjoy an 18-point lead in the polls.
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The Liberals have not generated a single surplus since coming to power in 2015. The deficit has skyrocketed to $40 billion this year, and they have implemented a carbon tax and raised taxes on the wealthiest.
View attachment 23950
For months, the Trudeau Liberals have been hammering the idea that Canada is in a better financial spot than any other country in the world. Of course, economists might take issue with that claim.

Twelve years ago, so would MacKinnon.
“Like Paul Martin, today’s Liberals must also rededicate themselves to eliminating the scourge of deficit and debt,” he wrote in a 2012 op-ed.
View attachment 23951Now he says “society has evolved.”

“The Liberal party is the party of fiscal prudence, of making careful choices.”

The polling suggests voters aren’t buying the message. But MacKinnon seems to expect Canadians will have some sort of epiphany in the upcoming year.

That doesn’t make him crazy, just loyal, says longtime friend David Herle.
Ya think? LMAO
 

Ron in Regina

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With markets crashing, its not getting better for Liberals. The word recession is bouncing around.
There is no good news for Justin Trudeau in the latest polling of Canadians. Not only has his voter support shrunk to less than a quarter of the population, people don’t believe he has the answers for the problems facing the nation.
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According to Leger, 46% of Canadians say they are living paycheque to paycheque and 57% believe Canada’s economy is in a recession. The poll also found less than a third of Canadians, 29%, are satisfied with the Trudeau government.
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Actually, that might be the best news coming out of recent polls given that only 23% say they will vote for Trudeau and his Liberals.
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That shockingly low level of support, just 23% support for the Liberals, shows up in the latest Leger poll and the latest poll from Abacus Data. The big difference between the two polls is whether Pierre Poilievre and his Conservatives have an 18-point lead at 41% support, which is what Leger finds, or a 20-point lead at 43% support, according to Abacus.
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Either way, if an election were held today, Poilievre and the Conservatives would win a massive majority.
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According to Abacus, the cost of living, housing and health care are the top issues, with immigration and climate change close behind. On three of those issues — cost of living, housing and immigration – the Conservatives are seen as better managers.
 

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When YOUR party is in power and there's a recession, you CAUSED it!

When MY party in in power and there's a recession, it's an "inevitable part of the economic cycle," and it would have been SO MUCH WORSE if YOUR party had been in power!
 

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There is no good news for Justin Trudeau in the latest polling of Canadians. Not only has his voter support shrunk to less than a quarter of the population, people don’t believe he has the answers for the problems facing the nation.
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According to Leger, 46% of Canadians say they are living paycheque to paycheque and 57% believe Canada’s economy is in a recession. The poll also found less than a third of Canadians, 29%, are satisfied with the Trudeau government.
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Actually, that might be the best news coming out of recent polls given that only 23% say they will vote for Trudeau and his Liberals.
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That shockingly low level of support, just 23% support for the Liberals, shows up in the latest Leger poll and the latest poll from Abacus Data. The big difference between the two polls is whether Pierre Poilievre and his Conservatives have an 18-point lead at 41% support, which is what Leger finds, or a 20-point lead at 43% support, according to Abacus.
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Either way, if an election were held today, Poilievre and the Conservatives would win a massive majority.
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According to Abacus, the cost of living, housing and health care are the top issues, with immigration and climate change close behind. On three of those issues — cost of living, housing and immigration – the Conservatives are seen as better managers.
We are down to just a couple weeks before NATO fully rolls into Ukraine. When they do, shit is going to start happening here. Whats Trudeau' plan if Quebec loses a hydro dam? Big parts of Canada and US will go dark.

Its coming home...
 
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When YOUR party is in power and there's a recession, you CAUSED it!

When MY party in in power and there's a recession, it's an "inevitable part of the economic cycle," and it would have been SO MUCH WORSE if YOUR party had been in power!
That excuse works for a while but after 9 years, it wears a bit thin.
 
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Ron in Regina

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No, it always works. And you haven't been in a recession for nine years. Hating True Dope does not meet the technical definition of "recession."
Up here the famous thing is to blame it on the previous government…that sort of works in the first year or two of a term.
No, it always works. And you haven't been in a recession for nine years. Hating True Dope does not meet the technical definition of "recession."
I believe he’s pointing out that the previous government was the Trudeau government, & the one previous to that was the Trudeau government.
 
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Desperate to try any tactic to dig them out of the hole they find themselves in, the Liberals appear to have looked south and borrowed the Democrats’ idea of calling conservatives “weird.”

The tactic might just work for Democratic presidential candidate Kamala Harris and her party. There are, after all, more than enough fringe Republican elements to make this somewhat convincing, especially as a sop to the Democrats’ political base and to independents who find political shenanigans ludicrous in general.

In Canada, though, this seems less likely to make the Liberals’ poll numbers budge. The irony is that in many respects, the basic argument is right. Conservatives in Canada are weird — or they’ve been made to seem so — just not in the way the Liberals think.
Calling Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre and his fellow Tories weird might not work for the Liberals. It’s possible that in 2024, Canadians are ready for a little common-sense eccentricity.
 
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