Pro-Palestine Anti-Israel College Campus Protests

Ron in Regina

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I agree with all of the above, but that wasn't the question. My question was "What is your sense of UT's motivation? The conduct of the protesters or the content of their protest?"
Oh, sorry, I misunderstood. I’ve no idea, & would only be making assumptions on my part based on my own preconceived ideas based upon my own opinion, with respect to protests as I expressed above.

As a institution upon themselves, I’m assuming they wanted:
1) only positive media
2) non-chaos on campus
3) safe environment for everyone
4) a clean welcoming campus sells better than an open toilet Full of non-students squatting for weeks or months at a time
5) control of their campus back into their own hands so they can try and revert to points one through four again
 

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Oh, sorry, I misunderstood. I’ve no idea, & would only be making assumptions on my part based on my own preconceived ideas based upon my own opinion, with respect to protests as I expressed above.

As a institution upon themselves, I’m assuming they wanted:
1) only positive media
2) non-chaos on campus
3) safe environment for everyone
4) a clean welcoming campus sells better than an open toilet Full of non-students squatting for weeks or months at a time
5) control of their campus back into their own hands so they can try and revert to points one through four again
Well. . . fucked that up, didn't they?
 
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Ron in Regina

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Well. . . fucked that up, didn't they?
Pretty much. I don’t think it much mattered what the protest was about on these university campuses, but how it went about.

The protest could’ve been for diurnal vampires for veganism, But as long as they follow the guidelines of:
Do it during the day, then go home regardless of whom it is or what it’s over. Don’t prevent others from also using the space or otherwise infringe upon others rights while expressing your own. Leave the place the way you found it or better shape than when you found it. A right to protest doesn’t trump other peoples rights to go about their day and their business. Observe the rules & laws already in place while protesting or you don’t win over anyone to your cause. That’s my take on it.
…& the protest was to try and sway people towards a position, as opposed to intimidate and subjugate others rights to use the same space… it would’ve all been a non-issue. Once you start erecting structures for permanent habitation and digging latrines…it’s time to go home.
 
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Pretty much. I don’t think it much mattered what the protest was about on these university campuses, but how it went about.

The protest could’ve been for diurnal vampires for veganism, But as long as they follow the guidelines of:

…& the protest was to try and sway people towards a position, as opposed to intimidate and subjugate others rights to use the same space… it would’ve all been a non-issue. Once you start erecting structures for permanent habitation and digging latrines…it’s time to go home.
UT did the typical institutional thing. . . let 'em run wild until half the population was pissed off, then cracked down to piss off the other half.

This is called "public relations."
 

Ron in Regina

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UT did the typical institutional thing. . . let 'em run wild until half the population was pissed off, then cracked down to piss off the other half.

This is called "public relations."
The universities in Alberta, allowed the protests until they cross the line from protest to encampment…& sent them all home. It’s not like it couldn’t be done.
 

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The BDS movement claims to have originated in 2005 following a historic 2004 advisory opinion of the International Court of Justice (ICJ) declaring an Israeli-built barrier in the West Bank to be illegal.

However, while the ICJ opinion is built on the premise of the right of Israel to exist and the right for the country to defend itself, the BDS movement does not support either of these positions. BDS portrays itself as a social justice movement, but it is built on a foundation of intolerance. It is also one of the first foreign influence campaigns to seriously impact Canadian politics and social cohesion.

Over the last two decades, the BDS movement has crept into many areas of civic life. From Pride parades to union meetings to school board elections, BDS began showing up at progressive gatherings despite these events and groups having no connection to the Middle East. It uses misleading words like “colonialism” or “apartheid” alongside calls to boycott Jewish businesses or to sanction Israel to make it sound like a social justice movement when it is not.

Sadly, the lack of critical analysis by many of the progressive groups involved has led many of them to be captured by foreign influence without even realizing it. Most do not know that BDS opposes a peaceful, two-state solution to the Israel-Palestine question. This progressive capture explains how, after two decades of activity, the BDS movement has normalized racist taunts and terms like “intifada” on university campuses.
 

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The BDS movement claims to have originated in 2005 following a historic 2004 advisory opinion of the International Court of Justice (ICJ) declaring an Israeli-built barrier in the West Bank to be illegal.

However, while the ICJ opinion is built on the premise of the right of Israel to exist and the right for the country to defend itself, the BDS movement does not support either of these positions. BDS portrays itself as a social justice movement, but it is built on a foundation of intolerance. It is also one of the first foreign influence campaigns to seriously impact Canadian politics and social cohesion.

Over the last two decades, the BDS movement has crept into many areas of civic life. From Pride parades to union meetings to school board elections, BDS began showing up at progressive gatherings despite these events and groups having no connection to the Middle East. It uses misleading words like “colonialism” or “apartheid” alongside calls to boycott Jewish businesses or to sanction Israel to make it sound like a social justice movement when it is not.

Sadly, the lack of critical analysis by many of the progressive groups involved has led many of them to be captured by foreign influence without even realizing it. Most do not know that BDS opposes a peaceful, two-state solution to the Israel-Palestine question. This progressive capture explains how, after two decades of activity, the BDS movement has normalized racist taunts and terms like “intifada” on university campuses.
Are illegal settlements not colonization? Yes Israel has a right to defend Israel but Israelis in illegal settlements in the West Bank? They are fair game.
 

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In videos circulating online, protesters can be seen ripping up the freshly laid sod installed where a pro-Palestinian encampment had been erected on campus.

The Montreal police were called to intervene and a criminal investigation is underway.

“Vandalism is not a legitimate expression of one’s free speech rights and McGill condemns such acts,” a university spokesperson wrote in an email response Monday.

Montreal Mayor Valérie Plante echoed the university’s position in a post on X, saying destroying property is not a form of protest.

“Intimidation, violence and vandalism have no place in our city and will not be tolerated,” Plante wrote on Monday, etc…

Short videos of the incident show protesters tearing up the lawn as others chant and wave Palestinian flags in the background???

“(Police) responded approximately five minutes after the vandalism began and caused the protesters to disperse quickly,” the university said. The school’s groundskeeping team repaired the lawn.

“McGill will continue to support freedom of expression and freedom of assembly,” the university added, “as long as such freedoms are exercised within the boundaries of the law and the university’s policies.”

A spokesperson for the Montreal police said the protest started downtown around 1 p.m. and made its way onto the university’s campus by 3 p.m., at which point demonstrators started removing the sod and planting Palestinian flags.

Police spoke with campus security before deciding to move in, said SPVM spokesperson Mariane Allaire Morin.
“There have been no arrests as of now but an investigation has been launched, because there was damage done to the sod,” she said. “The investigation is ongoing.”

The pro-Palestinian encampment was in place on the university’s lower field from late April to July 10. McGill hired a private security firm to dismantle it, arguing the encampment presented serious security issues.

The portion of the downtown campus where the encampment had stood was closed off for most of the summer as the university worked to decontaminate the soil and replace the grass.
 

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In videos circulating online, protesters can be seen ripping up the freshly laid sod installed where a pro-Palestinian encampment had been erected on campus.

The Montreal police were called to intervene and a criminal investigation is underway.

“Vandalism is not a legitimate expression of one’s free speech rights and McGill condemns such acts,” a university spokesperson wrote in an email response Monday.

Montreal Mayor Valérie Plante echoed the university’s position in a post on X, saying destroying property is not a form of protest.

“Intimidation, violence and vandalism have no place in our city and will not be tolerated,” Plante wrote on Monday, etc…

Short videos of the incident show protesters tearing up the lawn as others chant and wave Palestinian flags in the background???

“(Police) responded approximately five minutes after the vandalism began and caused the protesters to disperse quickly,” the university said. The school’s groundskeeping team repaired the lawn.

“McGill will continue to support freedom of expression and freedom of assembly,” the university added, “as long as such freedoms are exercised within the boundaries of the law and the university’s policies.”

A spokesperson for the Montreal police said the protest started downtown around 1 p.m. and made its way onto the university’s campus by 3 p.m., at which point demonstrators started removing the sod and planting Palestinian flags.

Police spoke with campus security before deciding to move in, said SPVM spokesperson Mariane Allaire Morin.
“There have been no arrests as of now but an investigation has been launched, because there was damage done to the sod,” she said. “The investigation is ongoing.”

The pro-Palestinian encampment was in place on the university’s lower field from late April to July 10. McGill hired a private security firm to dismantle it, arguing the encampment presented serious security issues.

The portion of the downtown campus where the encampment had stood was closed off for most of the summer as the university worked to decontaminate the soil and replace the grass.
Did someone tell them to "touch grass"?
 

Ron in Regina

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So why do the pro-‘Palestine’ protesters need to wreck shit? What point do they make with vandalism?

Is it just me, does it seem like you lose your legitimacy when you have to smash other peoples stuff in a peaceful protest?
Then the term “mostly peaceful” to describe utter stupidity, is like being “mostly not pregnant” in its ring regarding the truth in a description, but maybe that’s just me.
 
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So why do the pro-‘Palestine’ protesters need to wreck shit? What point do they make with vandalism?

Is it just me, does it seem like you lose your legitimacy when you have to smash other peoples stuff in a peaceful protest?
Then the term “mostly peaceful” to describe utter stupidity, is like being “mostly not pregnant” in its ring regarding the truth in a description, but maybe that’s just me.
Yep. For the last what, almost 11 months now Canadians have been subjected to assaults, having buildings shot at, having businesses burned down, being threatened harassed and intimidated, had their higher learning institutions hijacked but hey, at least the "peaceful" protestors didn't honk horns and set up bouncy castles. This govt firmly draws the line at that kind of bullshit behaviour.
 

Ron in Regina

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UT did the typical institutional thing. . . let 'em run wild until half the population was pissed off, then cracked down to piss off the other half.

This is called "public relations."
The universities in Alberta, allowed the protests until they cross the line from protest to encampment…& sent them all home. It’s not like it couldn’t be done.
Just not in TO. For once, the Men of Westernesse have a point.

UT screwed the pooch, then didn't even offer to snuggle.
Since October 7, many of those involved with Hearing Palestine have expressed support for Hamas’s brutal massacre and rape of 1,200 people, mostly civilians, and taking of over 250 hostages. A number of prominent U of T faculty members, for example, signed a statement released in October 2023 that attempted to compare the plight of Ukrainians who had been invaded by Russia with the Palestinians who invaded Israel.

As the new school year gets underway, a report released Thursday by Canary Mission, an organization that documents antisemitic and anti-Israel activity on North American campuses, paints a grim picture of how University of Toronto administrators sat back as their campus was overrun by terrorist supporters and outside agitators. In particular, the report lists dozens of U of T faculty, the very people responsible for educating future generations, who aided and abetted last spring’s illegal anti-Israel encampment.

Following in the footsteps of similar encampments at American universities, on May 2, a group breached a fence surrounding the newly revitalized King’s College Circle and occupied the courtyard for a period of two months. When I visited the site the following week, the fence was littered with posters excusing Hamas’s atrocities and calling for violent uprisings in Israel and here at home.

Canary Mission found that 153 professors, including 123 employed by U of T, publicly supported the encampment, 45 actively participated in it and six addressed the demonstrators.

Thugs hiding their identities behind keffiyehs and surplus medical masks strictly controlled access to the area, forcing those who wished to enter to agree with a series of statements designed to ensure that no Zionists….
…or anyone advocating for peaceful coexistence between Israelis and Palestinians, for that matter — would be allowed to infect the encampment with their blasphemous ideas.

At the time, it wasn’t entirely clear who was behind the protest, or how many of those who had pitched tents on university property actually attended classes there. The Canary Mission report — titled, “University of Toronto’s Antisemitic Encampment & the University’s Shocking Complicity” — provides some unique insight in this regard.

According to its authors, this “was not primarily a grassroots student protest.” Instead, the so-called People’s Circle for Palestine was home to “a slew of outside agitators, including faculty, health care workers, climate justice groups, labour activists, trade unionists, gay rights activists, socialists/Marxists and activists with local chapters (of) the Palestine Youth Movement and Samidoun.”

In other words: the usual array of left-wing, anti-western agitators and the “useful idiots” of Hamas and the Islamic Republic of Iran. The rest at the below link:
It’s little wonder that the protest quickly devolved into Jew-hate. As Ontario Superior Court judge Markus Koehnen noted in his ruling granting an injunction against the encampment, there were numerous documented instances of overtly antisemitic statements, including: “kike,” “We need another holocost” (sic), “Jews belong in the sea Palestine will be free,” “Death To the Jews, Hamas for Prime Minister,” “You dirty f–ing Jew. Go back to Europe” and “Itbach El Yahod” (“slaughter the Jews”).
 
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