Liberal stronghold riding in Toronto up for grabs today!!!

[Ron in Regina]

Bi-election? By election, Bye-bye-election? Liberals were planning this byelection for close to a year — they found a candidate who was good on paper, who clearly put in the work for a tight race, but in the end lost because voters, even in St. Paul’s, have chosen to move on from Justin Trudeau.

What is truly remarkable about this is that the Liberals controlled every aspect of the timing of this byelection, giving them every advantage.

To win, Stewart needed several things to happen.

He needed disaffected Liberals, upset with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s leadership, to come out and vote for him, which many clearly did. He also needed professionals and small business owners upset over the capital gains tax changes to show up for him, which they did.

Finally, he needed the Jewish community concentrated to the Forest Hill neighbourhood to abandon their long-held ties to the Liberal Party and vote blue, which clearly many did.

LILLEY: Conservatives' shock win in Toronto-St. Paul's adds pressure to Trudeau to step down — Toronto Sun

Counting took all night but the Conservatives pulled off a shock win in what was a Toronto Liberal stronghold.

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[B00Mer]

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[Ron in Regina]

"This was obviously not the result we wanted, but I want to be clear that I hear your concerns and frustrations," Trudeau said in a media statement. He did not take questions from reporters.

Trudeau says he hears Canadians' 'concerns and frustrations' after dramatic byelection loss — CBC News

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says he hears Canadians' "concerns and frustrations" as questions mount about his future as Liberal leader following his party's stunning byelection loss.

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Thank you CBC. I am enlighten.

Trudeau has binned half of his cabinet and … nothing changed in the polls. He tabled another budget and … nothing changed. He sent most of his new cabinet to Toronto-St. Paul's to tout the budget and … the people said "no." What more of a signal does one man need?

Justin Trudeau's political career is over. He can walk away with dignity now or stick around to get creamed by a man he loathes — Toronto Star

Trudeau's political staff and other trusted advisers need to step in and have a frank conversation. It is the time to say the things that need to be said, not to say the things the boss wants to hear.

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Chrystia Freeland on Monday stated while voters were casting ballots in a by-election, in what had been up to then the Liberal fortress of Toronto-St. Paul’s, Freeland said those voting for (winning) Conservative candidate Don Stewart would be voting for a vision of Canada that is “cold and cruel and small,” in favour of “cuts and austerity, not believing in ourselves as a country, not believing in our communities and in our neighbours.” Etc…
The vote in Toronto-St. Paul’s — a narrow but shocking Conservative victory in a riding that had been Liberal since 1993 in a city where the Conservatives hadn’t won a single seat since the 2011 federal election — suggests many Canadians have had enough of Liberal arrogance.

EDITORIAL: Arrogant Liberals defeating themselves — Toronto Sun

The federal Liberals consider themselves to be Canada’s natural governing party and, in some ways, they are. In Canada’s 157 years as a nation on July 1 — the Liberals have been in power for 60% of the time; 69% since 1900. But their electoral success has bred a certain arrogance within them...

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[petros]

I don't know about you, you, you or... fuck you. I've had enough of Liberal arrogance.

Peter 7:11

 

[Ron in Regina]

Trudeau, in reacting to the St. Paul’s loss that will increase calls within his party for him to resign said, “I want to be clear that I hear people’s concerns and frustrations” and that “I and my entire Liberal team have much more work to do to deliver tangible, real progress that Canadians across the country can see and feel … my focus is on your success and that’s where it’s going to stay.” Oh great…


“I’ll take a balanced budget from the Spring of 2015 Pre-Trudeau for $1,600,000,000,000.00 Alex!”

 

[pgs]

Trudeau, in reacting to the St. Paul’s loss that will increase calls within his party for him to resign said, “I want to be clear that I hear people’s concerns and frustrations” and that “I and my entire Liberal team have much more work to do to deliver tangible, real progress that Canadians across the country can see and feel … my focus is on your success and that’s where it’s going to stay.” Oh great…

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“I’ll take a balanced budget from the Spring of 2015 Pre-Trudeau for $1,600,000,000,000.00 Alex!”

I’ll take Kobe steak with my wine please .

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

I am more convinced that the Liberals will do a change. They have made leaders fall on swords for less. If they don't, I have to assume that Justin has some sort of blackmail material on most of them. I am thinking this fall or winter or maybe even next spring. Give the voters little time to assess the new leader and he/she would campaign on the "I am not Trudeau" banner.

 

[petros]

I am more convinced that the Liberals will do a change. They have made leaders fall on swords for less. If they don't, I have to assume that Justin has some sort of blackmail material on most of them. I am thinking this fall or winter or maybe even next spring. Give the voters little time to assess the new leader and he/she would campaign on the "I am not Trudeau" banner.

They'll have to run all white men next time.

 

[pgs]

They'll have to run all white men next time.

They have nothing but in leadership potential and even that is very thin.

 

[petros]

Trudeau is Latinx

 

[Jinentonix]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1805590700681003411

And Trudeau's to blame. He gives Canada a bad name.

 

[Ron in Regina]

And Trudeau's to blame.

We (Canadians in general & nobody specifically) voted him in three times. Once for those that don’t follow politics, I get…

He gives Canada a bad name.

2019 & 2021 federal elections though, that’s on Canada (with a side of China I guess) and Canadians. That’s totally on us as a whole whether we voted for this clown or not as individuals…we gave ourselves a bad name.

 

[Jinentonix]

"Freeland said those voting for (winning) Conservative candidate Don Stewart would be voting for a vision of Canada that is “cold and cruel and small,”

Well, it beats being a Canada that the Liberals turned into a FAR more dangerous country. It beats being a Canada that colludes with extremist foreign entities *cough*CCP*cough*islamists*cough*. It sure beats being a Canada that invites nazis to Parliament to celebrate them. It sure beats being a Canada that lets islamo-nazis terrorize Canadians in "protest" of shit going on somewhere else. It beats being a Canada with a govt that isn't even qualified to run a bath.

 

[Jinentonix]

We (Canadians in general & nobody specifically) voted him in three times. Once for those that don’t follow politics, I get…

2019 & 2021 federal elections though, that’s on Canada (with a side of China I guess) and Canadians. That’s totally on us as a whole whether we voted for this clown or not as individuals…we gave ourselves a bad name.

Sure, now try to sing that to the Bon Jovi song. Just enjoy the humour bud, I'm here all week.

 

[Ron in Regina]

…Well, it beats being a Canada that the Liberals turned into a FAR more dangerous country. It beats being a Canada that colludes with extremist foreign entities *cough*CCP*cough*islamists*cough*.

It sure beats being a Canada that invites nazis to Parliament to celebrate them. It sure beats being a Canada that lets islamo-nazis terrorize Canadians in "protest" of shit going on somewhere else. It beats being a Canada with a govt that isn't even qualified to run a bath.

Between the rising cost of living, the dearth of housing and the prime minister’s have-it-both-ways approach to the Israel-Hamas war, voters sent a clear signal that they’ve had enough. The Jewish community, which makes up 15 per cent of St. Paul’s, felt particularly abandoned and angry.

The chatter now isn’t about whether Trudeau will quit, but when. The knives are out, and they are being sharpened both inside and outside the party. This isn’t just about one man: there are now dozens of Liberal MPs whose seats are at risk, etc…

Tasha Kheiriddin: Does the Toronto—St. Paul's byelection presage the end of Justin Trudeau? — National Post

The PM has fallen out of favour with Canadians, but the Liberals have few other good choices

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[Jinentonix]

The Libs better have one goddam big rabbit in that hat of theirs else they're going to get destroyed in 2025. But of course there's still plenty of time for the Cons to shoot themselves in the foot so... could be some fun times ahead.

 

[Ron in Regina]

One Liberal MP told CBC News that if the caucus waits until that early September meeting to regroup and reset, "we will be writing our obituary."

"We put everything we had into it and still lost," a second Liberal MP told CBC News. "This is an unmitigated disaster."

A third Liberal caucus member suggested the loss may have been a good thing because it could force the Prime Minister's Office to recognize that the current mix of strategy and policy isn't working? "PMO needed that message," the third MP said.

"What's the plan?" a fourth Liberal MP told CBC News. "We need a course correction."

Another caucus member told CBC News that MPs are hearing from Liberal supporters that it's time for a leadership change. The same MP said it is ultimately up to Trudeau to decide whether he stays or goes, but added that a new leader could breathe life into the party.

"Does [Trudeau] want his legacy to be not just the decline, but the destruction of the Liberal party?" they asked.

Some Liberals who spoke to CBC News blamed the prime minister and his staff for manufacturing the Toronto-St. Paul's byelection in their latest cabinet overhaul in July 2023.

There was a consensus that if the prime minister was intent on staying, something significant would have to change???

The most common ideas were a newer new cabinet — built with the singular purpose of taking the fight to Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre — or a major shakeup in the senior political staff. Fire up the bus boys, we’ve got some cabinet members to throw under it again!!

Even the most worried MPs who spoke to CBC News underlined the point that the Liberal caucus is "fairly passive" and unlikely to agitate for change too aggressively or too loudly. This is from the CBC, as the unofficial Liberal sounding board for anonymous leaks from government officials to the public.

Liberal MPs say Trudeau needs to meet with caucus after surprise byelection loss — CBC News

A growing number of Liberal MPs say the national caucus needs to meet as soon as possible to discuss the fallout of this week’s tough byelection loss in Toronto and that the gathering can’t wait until the retreat scheduled for the end of the summer.

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No MP has publicly called for Trudeau to step down as leader as of yet, but there is increasing pressure on the Liberals to consider all their options, including a change in leadership, given that polls currently show them heading toward a resounding defeat in the next election.

Cabinet ministers have all come out to support Trudeau to stay on as Liberal leader.

Liberal minister tells MPs to stop 'navel-gazing,' get back to work after Toronto byelection fiasco — National Post

Immigration Minister Marc Miller, who is a close friend of Trudeau’s, said his professional advice to him is 'absolutely to stay on'

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[petros]

Stubborn.

 

[Ron in Regina]

Stubborn.

Double-Down!! Liberal insiders and Members of Parliament I’ve spoken to in recent months have been quick to express private frustration at the state of affairs in Ottawa, but not one could imagine taking those issues public.

As one Liberal MP explained to me, most of the Liberal caucus sees itself as more beholden to the party than their constituents — the more they fear losing their seats, the more they are inclined to rally behind their leader. That, to me, is a sign of some serious democratic rot.

Justin Trudeau is getting crushed by a mess of his own making — Toronto Star

The prime minister abandoned his pledge to reform Canadian democracy. The whole country is paying the price.

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[B00Mer]

Love this

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