Hamas attacks Israel
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Haven’t watched the vid yet. Iraqi’s (the gov’t & the people) or one or more of the 1/2 dozen Iranian proxies?
IIR and Hooties launched a couple attacks. One near Tel Aviv in Ashdod and Haifa as well as a another ship in the Red Sea.
Watched the vid (part of it). Iraqi Militias? Plural? Does that mean not Iraqi gov’t forces but Iranian sponsored terror groups?
If the Israeli government & IDF sang Kumbaya with Hamas tomorrow…would that change anything with respect to the Houthi’s or Hezbollah or any of the others until Israel just didn’t exist any longer?
In an interview with CNN, Hamas spokesperson and political bureau member Osama Hamdan offered an insight into the militant group’s position on the stalled ceasefire talks, a view on whether Hamas regrets its decision to attack Israel given the mounting Palestinian death toll, and a commentary on the leak earlier this week of messages from its chief in Gaza, Yahya Sinwar, the man believed to be the ultimate decision-maker on any peace deal.
A merican intelligence officials believe that Sinwar likely believes Hamas can survive Israel’s attempt to destroy it.
At the same time, Netanyahu is under increasing pressure to reach a deal that would secure the return of the remaining hostages still in Gaza. Israel believes that more than 70 hostages of the more than 100 who are still held in Gaza to be alive.
Speaking to CNN, Hamdan said he didn’t know how many were still alive. “I don’t have any idea about that. No one has an idea about this,” he said, alleging – without providing any evidence – that the Israeli operation to free four of the hostages on Saturday resulted in the deaths of three others, including an American citizen.
There are fears that more hostages may be dead than are publicly known. In April, Hamas told international mediators that it was not able to fulfill Israel’s demand to free 40 of the remaining hostages in the first phase of a deal, including all the women as well as sick and elderly men, because it did not hold 40 living hostages who match those criteria for release.
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Israel says that the changes Hamas made to U.S. President Joe Biden's outline for a deal that would stop the war and free the hostages held in Gaza eliminate the pressure points intended to ensure that the terrorist group doesn't hold off the release of the hostages while the agreement is being carried out.
The changes includenew demands by Hamas concerning the withdrawal of IDF forces from Gaza at an earlier stage of the deal, before the release of ALL the hostages.
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The senior Israeli official noted that Israel accepted Biden's proposal, but Hamas introduced "dozens of modifications that changed it beyond recognition."
A merican intelligence officials believe that Sinwar likely believes Hamas can survive Israel’s attempt to destroy it.
At the same time, Netanyahu is under increasing pressure to reach a deal that would secure the return of the remaining hostages still in Gaza. Israel believes that more than 70 hostages of the more than 100 who are still held in Gaza to be alive.
Speaking to CNN, Hamdan said he didn’t know how many were still alive. “I don’t have any idea about that. No one has an idea about this,” he said, alleging – without providing any evidence – that the Israeli operation to free four of the hostages on Saturday resulted in the deaths of three others, including an American citizen.
There are fears that more hostages may be dead than are publicly known. In April, Hamas told international mediators that it was not able to fulfill Israel’s demand to free 40 of the remaining hostages in the first phase of a deal, including all the women as well as sick and elderly men, because it did not hold 40 living hostages who match those criteria for release.
Hamas official says ‘no one has any idea’ how many Israeli hostages are still alive — CNN
Hamas spokesperson Osama Hamdan speaks with CNN about the militant group’s position on stalled ceasefire talks, whether Hamas regrets its decision to attack Israel given the mounting Palestinian death toll, and the leak earlier this week of messages from its chief in Gaza, Yahya Sinwar.
Well, this is starting to make more sense.
So, potentially, if they (Hamas) had to return the equivalent of 1 “non-corpse” hostage daily, there might might not be enough of them to get through phase 1.
Israel says that the changes Hamas made to U.S. President Joe Biden's outline for a deal that would stop the war and free the hostages held in Gaza eliminate the pressure points intended to ensure that the terrorist group doesn't hold off the release of the hostages while the agreement is being carried out.
The changes includenew demands by Hamas concerning the withdrawal of IDF forces from Gaza at an earlier stage of the deal, before the release of ALL the hostages.
Israel will not discuss Hamas changes to cease-fire, hostage deal, senior official says — Haaretz
Despite Israel's official position views Hamas' response as a rejection of the outline, Jerusalem will continue the negotiations and attempt to advance a deal that meets U.S. President Biden's original outline
Who the fuck knows anymore? This wont be over for a few years if Israel lasts that long.
It means military forces not under the orders of the central government.
Not officially or traceablely under orders of the central government.
Israel appears ready to accept a ceasefire deal, release hundreds, if not thousands, of Palestinian prisoners in exchange for hostages, and enter into talks about a permanent end to hostilities. Hamas wants the fighting to continue, is willing to sacrifice even more Palestinian lives and to let the hostages suffer.
If Canada and other western countries had been stronger in their condemnation of Hamas and firmer in their alliance with Israel, the terrorists may not have been so emboldened. But they have been, and so the war will go on.
Michael Higgins: Trudeau's naivete exposed by Hamas's double-dealing — National Post
The Liberals have sided with a terrorist death cult that seeks to maximize civilian casualties, including among its own people
By pressuring Israel, the West fails to recognize this conflict as a religious struggle rather than one motivated by politics. Sinwar compares the Gaza war to the Battle of Karbala, a 7th-century engagement in which the grandson of the Prophet Muhammad was killed while fighting a greater power. The battle inspires religious zealots like Sinwar to envision doomsday scenarios, preparing to fight to the last man or woman.
Sinwar reportedly told Hamas leadership, “We have to move forward on the same path we started … or let it be a new Karbala.” Even while holed up in an underground bunker in Gaza, using his people as human shields, Sinwar’s warped mind probably believes he is a prophet and this is his religious moment: “We have the Israelis right where we want them.”
Given this significant revelation, the international community is playing Russian roulette with Israel’s safety and security. Negotiation cannot be had with religious zealots. Besides, what happened to the now-infamous moral adage to never negotiate with terrorists?
Avi Benlolo: To Hamas leaders, Palestinian deaths are 'necessary sacrifices' — National Post
Hamas chief Yahya Sinwar would give up the lives of his own people in pursuit of killing Jews
I'm not so sure about that. I think you may overestimate the effect of Western opinion on the situation.
No. Not at all. Nobody gives a fuck. Holocaust guilt wore off 2 generations ago.
Maybe we should stand with our allies, and oppose the….insert your own bias here.
Let me be clear. I understand what you mean, but being friendly with, or supporting a nation in a conflict, while all well and good is NOT an alliance. Alliances are made by binding treaties that spell out exactly what the parties owe each other. We have such a treaty with neither Ukraine nor Israel.
Screw them both then. Equally. Sink or swim on their own.
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I disagree, but I wouldn't tell you how to feel.