Well, today is the Liberal/NDP Non-Coalition Coalition Budget Day!

Ron in Regina

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In the wake of a budget deliberately tailored towards salvaging plummeting youth support, a series of Angus Reid Institute polls show that young people now hate the Trudeau government more than ever.

To be fair to Trudeau, huge majorities of every generation didn’t see him as working in their best interest — but the dissatisfaction was heaviest among voters who came of age after the Liberals’ 2015 election win.

The latest riding-by-riding projections from the website 338Canada show the Liberal caucus shrinking to as few as 51 seats. With the NDP caucus projected as high as 33 seats and the Bloc Québécois as high as 45, it would only take five to 10 flipped ridings in either Ontario or Quebec to relegate the Liberals to third-party status.
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In the wake of a budget deliberately tailored towards salvaging plummeting youth support, a series of Angus Reid Institute polls show that young people now hate the Trudeau government more than ever.

To be fair to Trudeau, huge majorities of every generation didn’t see him as working in their best interest — but the dissatisfaction was heaviest among voters who came of age after the Liberals’ 2015 election win.

The latest riding-by-riding projections from the website 338Canada show the Liberal caucus shrinking to as few as 51 seats. With the NDP caucus projected as high as 33 seats and the Bloc Québécois as high as 45, it would only take five to 10 flipped ridings in either Ontario or Quebec to relegate the Liberals to third-party status.
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At this rate le Bloc will be opposition. Will there be a Bloc NDP non-coalition coalition if they fall short?
 

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In the wake of a budget deliberately tailored towards salvaging plummeting youth support, a series of Angus Reid Institute polls show that young people now hate the Trudeau government more than ever.

To be fair to Trudeau, huge majorities of every generation didn’t see him as working in their best interest — but the dissatisfaction was heaviest among voters who came of age after the Liberals’ 2015 election win.

The latest riding-by-riding projections from the website 338Canada show the Liberal caucus shrinking to as few as 51 seats. With the NDP caucus projected as high as 33 seats and the Bloc Québécois as high as 45, it would only take five to 10 flipped ridings in either Ontario or Quebec to relegate the Liberals to third-party status.
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Only thing I see is that they credited the Libs. with 2 seats in Sask.-Man. regions I really can't see it
 

Ron in Regina

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The Liberal government is having “very good conversations” with the New Democratic Party over getting this year’s federal budget through the House of Commons, Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland told reporters in Montreal on Monday.
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Freeland was asked if the Liberals were willing to go to polls if the NDP were to decide not to support the federal budget. NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh hasn’t yet said whether his party, which has a supply and confidence agreement with the minority Liberals, will vote to help pass it??? Really?
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Singh criticized the budget last week for “failing to tackle corporate greed” etc….
 

Ron in Regina

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Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland intends to ask Parliament to approve proposed changes to capital gains tax rates in a stand-alone bill? Interesting…
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The most controversial measure from her recent federal budget is not included in the motion she tabled Tuesday to introduce the federal budget in the House of Commons.
That will “force” (???) other (???) opposition parties to take a position specifically on the proposed increase to the inclusion rate rather than it being just one item in a laundry list of budget policies they vote for or against as a whole.

Force (???) “other” opposition parties? What a strange & interesting way to word this…

Freeland is planning to hold a news conference Tuesday afternoon alongside other cabinet ministers to discussion the motion.
 

Ron in Regina

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…That will “force” (???) other (???) opposition parties to take a position specifically on the proposed increase to the inclusion rate rather than it being just one item in a laundry list of budget policies they vote for or against as a whole.
Huh….could almost smell something cooking earlier in the day here…
Force (???) “other” opposition parties? What a strange & interesting way to word this…
…& here we are. This is the day Poilievre was sent out of Parliament by Speaker Fergus for doing what the PM had himself done a few minutes earlier. Interesting…
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Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre’s expulsion from question period was actually a sideshow rather than the main attraction in this disgraceful spectacle.

When asked about the very real issue of the opioid crisis in British Columbia, Trudeau resorted to baseless personal attacks. Last week, facing ever-increasing opioid overdose deaths and chaos from public drug use, B.C.’s NDP premier asked the federal government to recriminalize hard drugs in most instances.

The Liberal government has yet to give an answer on that and when Poilievre asked Trudeau about that issue, Trudeau ignored the it, opting instead for personal attacks.
Trudeau stood up and said that Poilievre was “showing us exactly what shameful, spineless leadership looks like.” That is unparliamentary language and not allowed, according to the rules, but Fergus didn’t stop Trudeau and allowed him to keep making personal attacks toward Poilievre.

It was only when Conservative MPs were shouting Fergus down that he acted.

“Get it together, Greg!” one MP could be heard yelling from the Conservative benches.

“Do you have any idea what you’re doing?” called out another.

Fergus then stood and instead of chastising the prime minister, he turned his attention toward Conservative MP Rachel Thomas, who had challenged Fergus’ lack of action.

“The chair is acting in a disgraceful manner,” said Thomas.

For refusing to withdraw, Thomas was ejected.

Fergus, a Liberal MP who has shown favouritism toward the Liberal government since being elected as Speaker last fall, then told the prime minister that he could restart his answer, but never asked him to withdraw the unparliamentary language.

That same courtesy wasn’t afforded to Poilievre when he again asked about the drug policy in B.C., calling it a “wacko policy from this wacko prime minister.”

Unlike when Trudeau used unparliamentary language, Fergus was on his feet chastising Poilievre immediately and demanding he withdraw his comments. When Poilievre eventually said he would withdraw “wacko” and replace it with “extremist,” Fergus ejected the opposition leader to wild applause from the Liberal benches.

…& on the divide & conquer Liberal strategy….where I’m sure the Bloc found the whole thing hilarious, & the NDP (the opposition to the opposition in the non-coalition coalition that’s definitely not a coalition-type coalition) would inevitably side with the Liberals ‘cuz pensions…I mean Left something something…leaving Lizzie May to blow wine out’a her nose from her eco-friendly reusable Tim Hortons travel mug mistakenly thinking she heard someone say the word “Fart.” Wow…now that’s an unbiased showing in Parliament today.

What are the “other” opposition parties saying about this?? Bloc Quebecois Leader Yves-Francois Blanchet was clearly pleased by the events, thanking Fergus in French for showing "common sense" in the chamber.

Then Singh…well, you’re pretty much know he will take a little shot at Trudeau, & a big shot at Poilievre ‘cuz that’s his thing.
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Ron in Regina

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It’s politics of division, and he’s reminding one of his references to “flat earthers” or “anti-vaxxer mobs” — or people who are racist, misogynists or against science. This time, Trudeau said in an era where “the richest are only getting richer, I think it’s fair to ask those people to pay a little more.”

This time he put private-sector financial professionals against public-sector professionals — and, at one point, drew a red line under people in their 60s as the ones holding the cash. It’s just code words for taking from the baby boom generation and handing it to Gen Z or millennials, who — thanks to World Economic Forum-style economies — own nothing and are not happy.

He said “a fair system creates a fair country” and “that’s what I want. A fair Canada for every generation.” What he doesn’t say is that Canada is a free-enterprise, capitalist society which relies on private investment. Oh well…
 

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He said “a fair system creates a fair country” and “that’s what I want. A fair Canada for every generation.” What he doesn’t say is that Canada is a free-enterprise, capitalist society which relies on private investment. Oh well…
Only a socialist can call socialism capitalism with a straight face.

You should get that looked at by a government-provided, government-paid doctor.
 

Ron in Regina

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Justin Trudeau must have thought he had an easy win coming by raising the capital gains tax inclusion rate in his budget. The plan was to shift the conversation from the much-hated carbon tax to the capital gains levy, and paint all those opposed as on the side of the rich.

It hasn’t quite worked out that way.

First off, Trudeau is still trying to explain his capital gains tax changes and as they say in politics, if you are explaining then you are losing. Secondly, the explaining has gone so badly, the pushback has been so strong that the tax changes aren’t in the government’s budget implementation bill.
From the start, Trudeau and his team have tried to make it seem that these tax changes were only hitting the wealthiest of the wealthy. They were hoping the anger and envy generated by class warfare would have most Canadians saying, “Ya, take more from those guys.” Maybe we will get to that point, but so far, it hasn’t worked out.

Canadians’ standard of living has declined to a level not seen for nearly 40 years. The average Canadian is now only as well off as when another Trudeau was in the prime minister’s office.

The last time our standard of living was this low, the top movies were Footloose, Terminator and Ghostbusters and the top pop hits were “When Doves Cry,” “What’s Love Got to Do with It” and “Karma Chameleon.” (Remember Boy George?)

The cause of this disturbing decline is Liberal government economic illiteracy.
 

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Justin Trudeau must have thought he had an easy win coming by raising the capital gains tax inclusion rate in his budget. The plan was to shift the conversation from the much-hated carbon tax to the capital gains levy, and paint all those opposed as on the side of the rich.

It hasn’t quite worked out that way.

First off, Trudeau is still trying to explain his capital gains tax changes and as they say in politics, if you are explaining then you are losing. Secondly, the explaining has gone so badly, the pushback has been so strong that the tax changes aren’t in the government’s budget implementation bill.
From the start, Trudeau and his team have tried to make it seem that these tax changes were only hitting the wealthiest of the wealthy. They were hoping the anger and envy generated by class warfare would have most Canadians saying, “Ya, take more from those guys.” Maybe we will get to that point, but so far, it hasn’t worked out.

Canadians’ standard of living has declined to a level not seen for nearly 40 years. The average Canadian is now only as well off as when another Trudeau was in the prime minister’s office.

The last time our standard of living was this low, the top movies were Footloose, Terminator and Ghostbusters and the top pop hits were “When Doves Cry,” “What’s Love Got to Do with It” and “Karma Chameleon.” (Remember Boy George?)

The cause of this disturbing decline is Liberal government economic illiteracy.
Additional proof that Trudeau isn't concerned with "monetary issues." The fact he doesn't understand how this could affect regular people is appalling.
 

Ron in Regina

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One statistic stuck out in this week’s inflation report from Statistics Canada, and it had to do with food inflation. While Statistics Canada said that overall inflation was cooling and reported that food inflation was down significantly, over the last three years the cost of groceries has gone up by 21.4%.

That means that the $100 worth of groceries in your cart in April 2021 would have cost you $121.40 last month for the exact same items.

No wonder people are feeling the pinch and don’t believe that food inflation is going down. They are looking at the compounding effect of three years of price increases.

In November 2015, the month the Trudeau Liberals were sworn in and took power, the average price for a litre of gas across the country was $103.7. The average price last month was $169.8 per litre, meaning we’ve seen a 64% increase in the price of gas over the last 8 1/2 years.

That doesn’t just impact what you pay to get to work, it impacts the price of everything else you buy.

In November 2015, the average price of a home, according to the Canadian Real Estate Association, was $456,186. Last month, CREA said the average home price was sitting at $703,446 or a 54% increase since Trudeau took office.

Of course, in November 2015, the average price could get you a two-storey single family home in much of the country, now that average price will get you a town or row house.
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And as for food, since November 2015, food inflation has caused your bill to go up by 32.3%, according to the analysis of StatsCan data by Sylvain Charlebois, the Food Professor.
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While gas has gone up 64%, the cost of an average home 54% and food by at least 32.3%, StatsCan says average hourly wages have only increased by 29% over that same time period.
Trudeau likes to talk about delivering for Canadians, but he rarely actually delivers.
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There is also the problem that if Canadians were doing well, if we weren’t battling an ever-increasing cost of living, we wouldn’t need the government to come up with programs to feed every kid at school, or give free dental care to seniors. Instead, we’ve been dealing with inflation, driven up in part by the policies of the Trudeau Liberals, not that the government will accept any blame.
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In response, Trudeau pointed to his new dental program for seniors that has signed up 2 million people and a national school food program. Of course, most dentists aren’t signing up to be part of that dental program, meaning once it gets going there will be long lines for care and the school food program has been talked about an awful lot but hasn’t fed a single meal to a single child.
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Nine years of stagnant growth under Trudeau has continued to leave younger generations behind, facing a poorer future than their parents, we know this because the prime minister and finance minister told us so only last month.

“It used to be that the deal was if you worked hard at a good job, you could afford a home. That doesn’t seem the case anymore. That’s not fair,” said Trudeau, who — it is worth repeating — has been prime minister for the last nine years.

And where has almost a decade of Liberal policies left us according to Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland?

“Today, too many young Canadians feel as if the deck is stacked against them. They can get a good job, they can work hard, but far too often the reward of a secure, prosperous, comfortable middle-class life is out of reach,” she said in April.
 

petros

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One statistic stuck out in this week’s inflation report from Statistics Canada, and it had to do with food inflation. While Statistics Canada said that overall inflation was cooling and reported that food inflation was down significantly, over the last three years the cost of groceries has gone up by 21.4%.

That means that the $100 worth of groceries in your cart in April 2021 would have cost you $121.40 last month for the exact same items.

No wonder people are feeling the pinch and don’t believe that food inflation is going down. They are looking at the compounding effect of three years of price increases.

In November 2015, the month the Trudeau Liberals were sworn in and took power, the average price for a litre of gas across the country was $103.7. The average price last month was $169.8 per litre, meaning we’ve seen a 64% increase in the price of gas over the last 8 1/2 years.

That doesn’t just impact what you pay to get to work, it impacts the price of everything else you buy.

In November 2015, the average price of a home, according to the Canadian Real Estate Association, was $456,186. Last month, CREA said the average home price was sitting at $703,446 or a 54% increase since Trudeau took office.

Of course, in November 2015, the average price could get you a two-storey single family home in much of the country, now that average price will get you a town or row house.
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And as for food, since November 2015, food inflation has caused your bill to go up by 32.3%, according to the analysis of StatsCan data by Sylvain Charlebois, the Food Professor.
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While gas has gone up 64%, the cost of an average home 54% and food by at least 32.3%, StatsCan says average hourly wages have only increased by 29% over that same time period.
Trudeau likes to talk about delivering for Canadians, but he rarely actually delivers.
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There is also the problem that if Canadians were doing well, if we weren’t battling an ever-increasing cost of living, we wouldn’t need the government to come up with programs to feed every kid at school, or give free dental care to seniors. Instead, we’ve been dealing with inflation, driven up in part by the policies of the Trudeau Liberals, not that the government will accept any blame.
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In response, Trudeau pointed to his new dental program for seniors that has signed up 2 million people and a national school food program. Of course, most dentists aren’t signing up to be part of that dental program, meaning once it gets going there will be long lines for care and the school food program has been talked about an awful lot but hasn’t fed a single meal to a single child.
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Nine years of stagnant growth under Trudeau has continued to leave younger generations behind, facing a poorer future than their parents, we know this because the prime minister and finance minister told us so only last month.

“It used to be that the deal was if you worked hard at a good job, you could afford a home. That doesn’t seem the case anymore. That’s not fair,” said Trudeau, who — it is worth repeating — has been prime minister for the last nine years.

And where has almost a decade of Liberal policies left us according to Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland?

“Today, too many young Canadians feel as if the deck is stacked against them. They can get a good job, they can work hard, but far too often the reward of a secure, prosperous, comfortable middle-class life is out of reach,” she said in April.
One thing about energy. A litre didnt shrink to 800ml or a kilowatt to 750W.
 

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"While gas has gone up 64%, the cost of an average home 54% and food by at least 32.3%, StatsCan says average hourly wages have only increased by 29% over that same time period."

Sounds like the public sector needs another raise just to keep up.

I notice as I pay the month end utilities my money is sent off to far end places and people I don't know. Not much is left to spend locally on anything of note might be a reason there are no businesses left in town.

One thing for sure is the banks like to keep the people as broke as possible in order to sustain the credit card interest revenues and general consumer debt. Wily people that can't be trusted imo.