Donald Trump Announces 2016 White House Bid

Serryah

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You think he beat Biden, don't you?

Of course.

Nevermind that despite the "landslide" of Iowa (won by over 10 points), roughly HALF of the voters there voted AGAINST him.

Which is not a good sign. If Iowa mattered, Teddy "Baby It's Cold Outside I'm out!" Cruz would be President.
 

Taxslave2

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Of course.

Nevermind that despite the "landslide" of Iowa (won by over 10 points), roughly HALF of the voters there voted AGAINST him.

Which is not a good sign. If Iowa mattered, Teddy "Baby It's Cold Outside I'm out!" Cruz would be President.
You hate it when the best man wins, don't you?
 
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Serryah

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You hate it when the best man wins, don't you?

It's not a matter of his winning - anyone with a quarter of a brain cell knew he was going to win.

It's that people - a LOT of them - did NOT vote for him that's the bigger news story here.

Not surprised you absolutely don't get that though.
 

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It's not a matter of his winning - anyone with a quarter of a brain cell knew he was going to win.

It's that people - a LOT of them - did NOT vote for him that's the bigger news story here.

Not surprised you absolutely don't get that though.
The bigger story in your mind anyways. Elections don't work on who didn't vote for a candidate. If it did, you little friend Justin would not be the PM.
 
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I had a fiance from Iowa years ago.

I'd visit every year for a month, for nine years. I actually liked the state - at least, the environment. Actually liked all the 'western US' states when I drove through them.

The people though... meh.
Hunh. I also had a fiancee from Iowa.

Far, FAR from Iowa.
 
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Ron in Regina

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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says voters in the United States will face a choice later this year between optimism for the future or nostalgia for a past that never existed?

Maybe Justin Trudeau should be campaigning in Canada in the Canadian federal election, instead of the American federal election?
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Trudeau made the comments in Montreal today to a business crowd in reference to Donald Trump's victory Monday in the Iowa Republican caucuses, which gives the former president an early lead for the Republican nomination ahead of the November election.
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The prime minister says a second Trump presidency would be difficult for the “Liberal/NDP” Canadian government, as there are many issues on which he (Trudeau & mini-Trudeau) and former president disagree.
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Though he didn't mention Conservative Party Leader Pierre Poilievre by name, Trudeau said Canadians will face a similar choice to American voters when they head to the polls….Ahhh…Trudeau is campaigning against Trump to try to campaign against Poilievre to try it improve our (Canada’s, not the Liberals) international relationship, right?

Trudeau cast himself as a defender of optimism and stability, saying voters will have to chose between his approach or anger and fear? Really? Seriously? Wow…
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Most Canucks think U.S. democracy won't survive 2nd Trump presidency: Poll
Half of Angus Reid respondents also worried U.S. could become authoritarian state

Author of the article:Jane Stevenson
Published Jan 15, 2024 • 2 minute read

The thought of Donald Trump returning to the U.S. presidency isn’t exactly filling Canadians with hope, according to a new Angus Reid poll.


The survey said half of Canadians were worried their neighbour to the south could be on its way to becoming an authoritarian state, while two-thirds were concerned U.S. democracy will not be able to survive another four years of Trump.


The survey found Canadians were three times as likely to say that Joe Biden at the helm would be better for the Canadian economy (53%) than Trump (18%), while a large number (29%) weren’t convinced it would matter either way for Canada.



Another 12% of Canadians said they were fully confident that elections will be secure, while twice as many (23%) said they had no confidence at all, two in five had doubts (38%) and 27% said they were more confident than not.


Of those who lacked confidence, 49% said both Republican and Democratic states were a source of concern, while the rest were twice as likely to say they were primarily worried about red states (34%) rather than blue ones (17%).

The poll also said one in five Canadians (22%) believed the “American age” of geopolitical dominance was already done, while 33% said it was hanging by a thread.

Past Canadian Conservative voters were more likely to say that Trump winning the presidency would benefit Canada’s economy (37%), while 33% said neither candidate would make a difference and 27% said Biden would be better.

Just 4% of past Liberals and 7% of past New Democrats said Trump is a better option, while the vast majority preferred Biden.

Angus Reid conducted an online survey from Jan. 9-11 with 1,510 Canadian adults with a probability sample of this size carrying a margin of error of plus or minus two percentage points, 19 times out of 20.
 

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Trump glowers and gestures in court, then leaves to campaign as sex abuse defamation trial opens
Author of the article:Associated Press
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Michael R. Sisak, Larry Neumeister And Jake Offenhartz
Published Jan 16, 2024 • Last updated 2 days ago • 5 minute read

NEW YORK — Donald Trump shook his head in disgust Tuesday as the judge in his New York defamation trial told would-be jurors that an earlier jury had already decided the former president sexually abused columnist E. Jean Carroll in the 1990s.


Trump left court before opening statements, jetting to a New Hampshire political rally as Carroll’s lawyer accused the Republican presidential frontrunner of using “the world’s biggest microphone” to destroy her reputation and turn his supporters against her. Trump’s lawyer contended that Carroll has never been more famous and that she is blaming him for “a few mean tweets from Twitter trolls.”


Fresh from a political win Monday in the Iowa caucuses, Trump detoured to a Manhattan courtroom for the start of what amounts to the penalty phase of Carroll’s civil lawsuit alleging he attacked her at a department store in 1996. Trump departed Tuesday after the nine-member jury was selected.

He glared and scowled at times as the jury was being picked, slyly raising his hand at one point when Judge Lewis A. Kaplan asked if anyone felt Trump had been treated unfairly by the court system. The gesture drew laughs from some people in the courtroom and a retort from the judge, who said: “We know where you stand.”


Trump, the former president, and Carroll, the former longtime Elle Magazine columnist, sat at separate tables about a dozen feet (3.7 metres) apart, flanked by their respective legal teams. They didn’t appear to speak or make eye contact.

After Trump left, Carroll’s lawyer Shawn Crowley implored jurors to make him pay — potentially millions of dollars — for comments he made while president in response to her claims in a 2019 memoir that he sexually abused her years earlier at Manhattan’s Bergdorf Goodman store.

Trump “used the world’s biggest microphone to attack Ms. Carroll,” Crowley said in her opening statement. His comments, including claims that Carroll was lying to sell books, humiliated the writer and tore “her reputation to shreds,” the lawyer said.


“He said this from the White House, where presidents have signed laws, declared wars and decided the fate of the nation,” Crowley told jurors.

While the trial concerns what Trump must pay for his comments in the immediate aftermath of Carroll’s revelations, Crowley noted that his rhetoric about the writer hasn’t stopped. Trump maintains he never abused Carroll and that her allegations are a partisan smear.

From court Tuesday, Trump fired off a series of social media posts about the case. He wrote on his Truth Social platform that Carroll’s rape allegation was an “attempted EXTORTION” involving “fabricated lies and political shenanigans,” and he accused the judge of having “absolute hatred” for him.

Crowley told jurors their job was to answer the question about Trump: “How much money will it take to get him to stop?”


However, Trump attorney Alina Habba said he was “merely defending himself” and that evidence will show that Carroll’s career has prospered since accusing him. Carroll has been “thrust back into the limelight like she always has wanted,” Habba said in her opening argument.

Responding to Crowley’s assertion that Trump backers have sent Carroll violent threats, Habba said she sympathized with victims of sexual abuse but that any backlash Carroll suffered was “simply a byproduct of the digital age.”

“Regardless of a few mean tweets, Ms. Carroll is more famous than she has ever been in her whole life, and she is loved and respected by many, which was her goal,” Habba told jurors.

Testimony will begin Wednesday, when Carroll is expected to take the witness stand.


Trump did not attend the previous trial in the case last May, when a jury found he had sexually abused Carroll and awarded her $5 million in damages. The jury said Carroll hadn’t proven that Trump raped her. In light of that verdict, Kaplan said the trial beginning Tuesday would focus only on how much money, if any, Trump must pay Carroll for comments he made about her while president in 2019.

As the day began, Kaplan rejected the defence’s request to suspend the trial on Thursday so Trump could attend his mother-in-law’s funeral — part of a combative exchange in which Trump’s lawyers accused the judge of thwarting their defence with pretrial evidence rulings favorable to Carroll.

“I am not stopping him from being there,” the judge said, referring to the funeral.


Trump lawyer Alina Habba responded: “No, you’re stopping him from being here.”

Habba told the judge that Trump plans to testify. Kaplan said the only accommodation he would make is that Trump can testify on Monday, even if the trial is otherwise finished by Thursday. The judge previously rejected Trump’s request to delay the trial a week.

Trump watched attentively as several dozen prospective jurors filed into the courtroom and spent more than an hour responding to questions posed by the judge covering everything from their prior involvement with the judicial system to their political beliefs.

He twisted around in his chair and nodded at two prospective jurors — a man and woman — who stood when asked if they agreed with his false belief that the 2020 election was rigged, and again when three people in the pool indicated they felt the former president was being treated unfairly by the court system.


The process offered a window into the political beliefs of a microcosm of New Yorkers, drawn from a pool that includes Manhattan and northern suburban counties. One woman said she had done publicity for his daughter’s company. Another said her father provided moving services for some of Trump’s buildings. Neither made the cut.

Jurors selected for the trial will remain anonymous, even to the parties, lawyers and judicial staff, and will be driven to and from the courthouse from an undisclosed location for their safety, Kaplan said.

Trump has increasingly made his courtroom travails — including four criminal cases — part of his run to retake the White House, positioning himself as a victim of partisan lawyers, judges and prosecutors and capitalizing on news coverage that accompanies his court visits. Last week, he attended closing arguments in the New York attorney general’s fraud lawsuit against him — and ended up giving a six-minute diatribe after his lawyers spoke.


“I guess you’d consider it part of the campaign,” Trump told reporters last week.

Carroll plans to testify about damage to her career and reputation she says resulted from Trump’s public statements. She seeks $10 million in compensatory damages and millions more in punitive damages.

If Trump testifies, he will be under strict limits on what he can say. Because of the prior verdict, Kaplan has said, Trump cannot get on the witness stand and argue that he didn’t sexually abuse or defame Carroll.

Trump is appealing and hasn’t paid any of that previous award, though he placed $5.55 million in escrow to cover the verdict and other costs in the event he loses his appeal. One issue that wasn’t decided in the first trial was how much Trump owed for comments he made about Carroll while president. That will be the new jury’s only job.