Hamas attacks Israel

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…On Oct. 26, the UN general assembly voted on a resolution calling for a “humanitarian truce” that did not explicitly mention Hamas’s attack on Israel on Oct. 7.

At the time, Rae (Bob Rae, Canada’s ambassador at the United Nations) said Canada could not support the text because the role of Hamas was being ignored. He proposed an amendment that condemned Hamas’s role in the Oct. 7 terrorist attack, saying “it names what has to be named.”
Officially known as “A/ES-10/L.27,” the General Assembly resolution demands an “immediate humanitarian ceasefire.” Although it also demands the “immediate and unconditional release of all hostages,” no mention is made of Hamas, or of any requirement for the terrorist group to surrender or otherwise abrogate political control.
“If the proposed amendment is not adopted, the Assembly will not have recognized one of the world’s worst terrorist attacks and we will all have to live with that failure,” he said.
Despite repeat claims that Canada supports Israel’s pledge to destroy Hamas as a political force, on Tuesday the Trudeau government endorsed a UN vote that would keep Hamas in place as the legitimate government of the Gaza Strip.
The amendment did not get the necessary two-thirds majority support, and Canada consequently abstained.

Fast forward to Tuesday. The resolution before the assembly called for an “immediate humanitarian ceasefire” (that is, a more formal and permanent “solution” than a truce). It not only failed to condemn Hamas, it didn’t even mention the terrorist organization. As Austrian amendment citing the role of Hamas in instigating the escalation of violence did not garner enough support to pass — yet Canada still voted in favour of the resolution.
“Hostages must be released. Foreign nationals, including Canadians, must be able to leave Gaza, and more aid must be able to enter. Hamas must lay down its weapons,” Foreign Affairs Minister Melanie Joly tweeted after the vote. “Canada supports efforts to a sustainable ceasefire, which cannot be one-sided.”
A joint statement the Trudeau government issued Tuesday with Australia and New Zealand did call Hamas’s attack “heinous,” said the group was responsible for sexual violence against Israelis, and that it used Palestinian populations as human shields.
But crucially, while the statement said Hamas cannot be allowed to govern Gaza any longer, it then called for the ceasefire that would neuter Israel’s ability to defeat Hamas through military force.
One can only imagine the hours of self-important difference-splitting agony that went into the Liberals’ decision to break with Israel at the United Nations and vote for a ceasefire — a gesture that accomplished little except to place Canada symbolically offside a staunch ally’s war effort against a genocidal terrorist group. It sounds like someone had a strategy mapped out on a whiteboard, and they thought it was pretty ace: We’ll vote for the UN resolution — though it doesn’t even mention Hamas — but talk much tougher elsewhere, and no one will notice the difference, or if they do, they’ll just split the difference.
Canada has long had a policy that there are far too many resolutions at the UN related to the Arab-Israel conflict that unfairly single out Israel and seek to isolate the Jewish state. For two decades, Canada has voted against those resolutions, with only a couple of exceptions, and has insisted that the destructive role played by Hezbollah and Hamas be addressed.
“Tensions emerge in the Liberal caucus,” was CBC’s headline this week about the UN vote, but if anything its report made it sound more like tensions had eased.
The vote on Tuesday was yet another attempt to isolate and pressure Israel, and this time Canada colluded.

Even if Israel recognized the point made by Canada’s Global Affairs Minister Mélanie Joly, that its actions “only enhance the cycle of violence,” with whom would it negotiate a signed agreement?
Canada’s Foreign Affairs Minister evaded a question from The Globe and Mail reporter on Tuesday about why the government’s position on a ceasefire in the Israel-Hamas War has changed.
The question also follows the news last week that a network representing influential Canadian Muslim donors to the Liberal Party of Canada had pulled out of the Laurier Club, the upper tier of donors, over concerns that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau had not yet called for a ceasefire in the conflict.
Hamas’s leader, Yahya Sinwar has said publicly that the slaughter on Oct. 7th “was just a rehearsal.” Hamas is an avowedly genocidal organization and there will be no partner for peace until it no longer controls Gaza.

It’s a bit ironic, of course, that Trudeau’s government cravenly called for a ceasefire this week. It is almost amusing. Because, of course, a ceasefire was already in place.

For years, Israel and the warring factions that surrounded it – the ones who wanted to wipe it from the face of the Earth (Hamas and Hezbollah, mainly) – had a ceasefire. Apart from the occasional skirmish, tentative peace was in place. It lasted for years.

It ended on Oct. 7, 2023. Hamas broke it.
 

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Officially known as “A/ES-10/L.27,” the General Assembly resolution demands an “immediate humanitarian ceasefire.” Although it also demands the “immediate and unconditional release of all hostages,” no mention is made of Hamas, or of any requirement for the terrorist group to surrender or otherwise abrogate political control.

Despite repeat claims that Canada supports Israel’s pledge to destroy Hamas as a political force, on Tuesday the Trudeau government endorsed a UN vote that would keep Hamas in place as the legitimate government of the Gaza Strip.

“Hostages must be released. Foreign nationals, including Canadians, must be able to leave Gaza, and more aid must be able to enter. Hamas must lay down its weapons,” Foreign Affairs Minister Melanie Joly tweeted after the vote. “Canada supports efforts to a sustainable ceasefire, which cannot be one-sided.”


One can only imagine the hours of self-important difference-splitting agony that went into the Liberals’ decision to break with Israel at the United Nations and vote for a ceasefire — a gesture that accomplished little except to place Canada symbolically offside a staunch ally’s war effort against a genocidal terrorist group. It sounds like someone had a strategy mapped out on a whiteboard, and they thought it was pretty ace: We’ll vote for the UN resolution — though it doesn’t even mention Hamas — but talk much tougher elsewhere, and no one will notice the difference, or if they do, they’ll just split the difference.

“Tensions emerge in the Liberal caucus,” was CBC’s headline this week about the UN vote, but if anything its report made it sound more like tensions had eased.

Canada’s Foreign Affairs Minister evaded a question from The Globe and Mail reporter on Tuesday about why the government’s position on a ceasefire in the Israel-Hamas War has changed.
The question also follows the news last week that a network representing influential Canadian Muslim donors to the Liberal Party of Canada had pulled out of the Laurier Club, the upper tier of donors, over concerns that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau had not yet called for a ceasefire in the conflict.

For fuck sake.
 
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U.S. warns Houthis to stop attacks​

 screen grab from video showing Houthi rebels taking over a cargo vessel in the Red Sea

A screen grab from video released last month showing Houthi rebels taking over a cargo vessel in the Red Sea. Photo: Ansarullah Media Center/AFP via Getty Images

The Biden administration has sent messages to the Houthi rebels in Yemen via several channels recently warning them to stop their attacks on ships in the Red Sea and against Israel, two U.S. officials said.

Why it matters: The Houthi attacks have created tensions in the region and are posing a growing threat to ships navigating one of the region's main commercial shipping routes.
Driving the news: Since the Israel-Hamas war started, the Houthis have launched more than 70 drones and ballistic missiles towards Israel, which is more than 1,000 miles away from Yemen, the IDF said.
  • Almost all of the missiles and drones were intercepted by Israeli, U.S., French and Saudi air defense systems.
  • In recent weeks, the Houthis escalated their attacks and started targeting commercial ships in the vicinity of the Bab el-Mandeb strait in the Red Sea, which they claimed were owned by Israeli companies or were heading to Israel.
  • But most of the vessels that were attacked had a remote or no affiliation with Israel.
  • On Thursday, the Houthis conducted another attack on a ship owned by a Chinese company.
Behind the scenes: U.S. special envoy for Yemen Tim Lenderking, who visited the Gulf in recent days, asked his counterparts in Saudi Arabia, Oman and Qatar to convey warning messages to the Houthis, the officials said.
  • Lenderking stressed the U.S. is highly concerned about Houthi attacks that threaten freedom of navigation in international waters.
  • The U.S. officials said several countries in the region gave similar messages to the Houthis over the last two weeks and made clear Houthi attacks on vessels in the Red Sea or against Israel over their territory are "unacceptable."
  • These warnings so far haven't led the Houthis to de-escalate their attacks, U.S. officials admit.
State of play: As a result of the attacks, the arrival of commercial ships to the port of Eilat in southern Israel has almost completely stopped.
  • Ships heading to Israel from Asia now take a route that circles Africa, making the journey three weeks longer and more expensive.
  • Over the past two weeks, ships headed to other ports outside Israel also started using the longer route to reach Europe in order not to be targeted.
The big picture: The U.S. is expected to announce on Friday that a special upgraded multinational task force will start operating in the Red Sea to deter the Houthis from further attacks and counter them, two Israeli and U.S. officials said.
  • The White House National Security Council coordinator for strategic communications John Kirby said over the last week that the State Department and the Pentagon have been working on getting countries to contribute navy ships for the task force that will operate under the U.S. central command's naval forces.
  • A senior Israeli official said the task force is not going to escort ships in the Red Sea, but that the presence of more navy ships in the region will make it easier to respond to threats.

  • Houthi official Mohammed al-Bouhaithi told al-Mayadeen television network on Thursday that the Houthis will see any navy ship from the U.S. or other countries that are part of the task force as a legitimate target and threatened the Houthis could block the Bab el-Mandeb for all ships if the war in Gaza continues.
What to watch: The Israeli government has become increasingly concerned about the Houthi attacks with some officials saying it needs to respond militarily.
  • A senior Israeli official said the Israeli war cabinet decided against military action for the moment so that the Houthis and their Iranian backers aren't able to distract the IDF from the war in Gaza and create a wider conflict in the region.
  • White House National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan stressed in his meeting with Prime Minister Netanyahu and the members of the war cabinet on Thursday that the U.S. is committed to protecting freedom of navigation in the Red Sea, U.S. officials said.
  • The Israeli government has agreed to see what effect the multinational maritime task force will have once it starts operating in the Red Sea and to not take any action of its own for now, Israeli officials said.
 
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Well. . . indigenous people (relative to the Israelis). The Israelis came, mostly from Europe, under a British mandate, and imposed their language and laws, and practiced significant discrimination against the indigenies. Over time, most of the tribes made peace with the newcomers, and decided to stay out of the fight between the people whose land was taken and the newcomers.

Sounds a lot like the civilization of the Americas to me.
No. The Israelis are Indigenous to the region. That's what people (Palestinians) don't understand.
 
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The United Nations – and Canada – gives Hamas a big victory
A ceasefire only benefits the terrorist organization that broke the peace by committing atrocities on innocent Israelis on Oct. 7, 2023

Author of the article:Warren Kinsella
Published Dec 13, 2023 • Last updated 1 day ago • 3 minute read

Peace in our time.


With war raging, and yet more war seeming imminent, speeches were made. Leaders gathered together, rising to leave behind some words that would be remembered. Remembered by history.


Addressing his people, and the world, one powerful man rose and said these things.

“We should seek by all means in our power to avoid war, by analyzing causes, but trying to remove them, by discussion in a spirit of collaboration and goodwill.”

Applause.



He went on: “How horrible, fantastic, incredible we should be preparing for war because of a quarrel in a far away country of whom we know nothing.”


More applause.

He lowered his voice for the next part: “No doubt the Jews aren’t a lovable people. I don’t care about them myself.”

Oh, wait. The above words were not uttered in the United Nations General assembly on Tuesday, although they certainly could have been. On Tuesday, you see, scores of nations – Canada among them – also deplored war and called for peace in our time. Canada, and others, called for a ceasefire.

The above words didn’t come from the UN this week, however. They come from decades ago in Britain. Neville Chamberlain said those words.


He uttered that hateful statement about the Jews, too. Chamberlain, the prime minister of Britain and the United Kingdom, actually said those things.

He was wrong about Jews, of course. He was also wrong about ceasefires, and peace in his time. But he would’ve fit right in, quite well, at the United Nations this week.


With very little effort, too, he would’ve fit right in to Justin Trudeau’s cabinet, wouldn’t he?

It is regrettable that we need to remind people Neville Chamberlain was hoodwinked by Adolf Hitler, and tragically wrong to call for “peace in our time.” But with a significant number of voters now getting information from TikTok, and not actual books and newspapers, it’s important to recall that lesson of history.

Namely, a ceasefire then only benefited Hitler. Just as a ceasefire now only benefits Hamas.

It’s a bit ironic, of course, that Trudeau’s government cravenly called for a ceasefire this week. It is almost amusing. Because, of course, a ceasefire was already in place.

For years, Israel and the warring factions that surrounded it – the ones who wanted to wipe it from the face of the Earth (Hamas and Hezbollah, mainly) – had a ceasefire. Apart from the occasional skirmish, tentative peace was in place. It lasted for years.


It ended on Oct. 7, 2023. Hamas broke it.

It’s impossible to know, of course, whether Hamas’ billionaire leaders in their Qatari mansions laughed about the ceasefire vote at the UN this week. But we know their predecessor, Hitler, certainly laughed when he fooled Neville Chamberlain.

It gave him time to regroup and rearm, and to spread his hateful ideology throughout the rest of Europe. As Hamas intends to do, in the Middle East.

As we say, we do not know how Hamas reacted to the vote in the general assembly on Tuesday. The terror group gives us a clue in its Charter, however.

There, in Article 13, Hamas says: “So-called peaceful solutions and international conferences are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement.”

Take that, general assembly.

It goes on: Hamas calls peace talks, and talk of peace with Jews and non-believers, “a waste of time.” Peace talks only help “the infidels,” says Hamas. All that is permitted is “jihad” – that is, holy war.

But Hamas does admit one thing, right in its Charter: peace conferences, and calls for ceasefires, are strategically useful. It gives them time to prepare for the next battle.

Take a bow, general assembly of the United Nations – you gave Hamas a big and unexpected victory this week.

Just like Neville Chamberlain did, so many years ago.

To Hitler.

Asking for a ceasefire isn't a fucking victory.

Anyone thinking that doesn't know the reality of things and needs to stop feeding into the Hamas/Israel conflict.


And on that note.



But yet Israel claims the bombs are 'precise'.

Bull-fucking-shit.

Not that those who stand with Israel give a damn, a dead Palestinian is good to their thoughts.


Pick your source.
 

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Asking for a ceasefire isn't a fucking victory.

Anyone thinking that doesn't know the reality of things and needs to stop feeding into the Hamas/Israel conflict.


And on that note.



But yet Israel claims the bombs are 'precise'.

Bull-fucking-shit.

Not that those who stand with Israel give a damn, a dead Palestinian is good to their thoughts.


Pick your source.

No one in the "ceasefire now" camp has a clue what that means.

Israel's war goals are:

• return the hostages
• bring the organizers of 7 October to justice
• dismantle Hamas' military to prevent another attack like 7 October

Hamas' war goals are:
• keep the hostages
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• evade being brought to justice
• retain control of Gaza to prepare for another attack like 7 October

A "ceasefire now" addresses not one of Israel's war goals, but it does help Hamas achieve all three of its war goals.

A ceasefire is a total victory for Hamas and
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a defeat for Israel.

There can be no ceasefire.
There must be no ceasefire.

If the ceasefire crowd truly cared for the "Palestinian people", then they would demand Hamas surrender.

If you demand a ceasefire you hate Jews. You're just too craven to admit it, you nazis.
3/3

Then there is this a little extreme of an opinion


1/ Steps toward a ceasefire:

1. Release all hostages alive.
2. Hamas leaders and terrorists surrender. Leaders to be executed.
3. All of UN and NGOs leave Gaza immediately and never return.
4. No Palestinian will work in Israel for min 20 years until they prove to want peace.


5. Israel, Palestinians, Arab world representatives, US and Europe sign binding agreement that if a single terror attack happens again on Israeli soil, Israel has full unabated and uninhibited powers and rights to defend with complete impunity however they deem fit…


6. Arab world agrees to immediately deal with any and all aggression towards Israel by any Arab Muslim nation. Failure to do so activates point 5 above.
7. All funds stolen from Palestinians by Hamas and PA are to be taken by international community to rebuild Gaza resources.


8. Palestinians are to become self sufficient. How is up to them. Israel will have no duty or obligation to provide anything towards Gaza until they have proven they want only peace.

If the world wants peace, the above should receive no hesitation in being implemented.
 

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No one in the "ceasefire now" camp has a clue what that means.

Do YOU know what it means?

Pretty sure you don't.

Israel's war goals are:

• return the hostages
• bring the organizers of 7 October to justice
• dismantle Hamas' military to prevent another attack like 7 October

Haha - no. That's what they say their goals are, that's not what they truly are.

Hamas' war goals are:
• keep the hostages
1/3


• evade being brought to justice
• retain control of Gaza to prepare for another attack like 7 October

Pretty much; it's Hamas, and a Terrorist group. Expecting anything else is stupid.

A "ceasefire now" addresses not one of Israel's war goals, but it does help Hamas achieve all three of its war goals.

A "ceasefire" isn't about any goals for any side, save the fucking civilians who are dying unnecessarily. THAT is what the ceasefire is supposed to be for.

I know you don't give a shit but...

A ceasefire is a total victory for Hamas and
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a defeat for Israel.

Israel was defeated the moment it retaliated against the attack on the 7th which it KNEW was going to happen.

Actually they were defeated BEFORE the 7th.

There can be no ceasefire.
There must be no ceasefire.

If the ceasefire crowd truly cared for the "Palestinian people", then they would demand Hamas surrender.

Sure. Hamas DOES need to surrender. It needs to be totally gotten rid of.

You'd think by now though that you'd get getting rid of terrorist organizations like Hamas takes more than just bombing like what Israel is doing. I mean, that level of terrorism is an idea and...

Well why waste my time, right?

If you demand a ceasefire you hate Jews. You're just too craven to admit it, you nazis.
3/3

Oh fuck this guy. A ceasefire does NOT mean one hates Jews and what about those Jews who are ALSO for a ceasefire?

Fucking idiot.

Then there is this a little extreme of an opinion


1/ Steps toward a ceasefire:

1. Release all hostages alive.

Not possible. Some are dead already.

2. Hamas leaders and terrorists surrender. Leaders to be executed.

HAHAHAHA - fucking idiot.

3. All of UN and NGOs leave Gaza immediately and never return.

LOL - and why is that?

4. No Palestinian will work in Israel for min 20 years until they prove to want peace.

What about ISRAEL needing to prove THEY want peace? Considering Netanyahu is part of the reason WHY Hamas has continued to be the power it is for as long it has...

Again, clueless fucking moron.


5. Israel, Palestinians, Arab world representatives, US and Europe sign binding agreement that if a single terror attack happens again on Israeli soil, Israel has full unabated and uninhibited powers and rights to defend with complete impunity however they deem fit…

More clueless bullshit.


6. Arab world agrees to immediately deal with any and all aggression towards Israel by any Arab Muslim nation. Failure to do so activates point 5 above.

Same.

7. All funds stolen from Palestinians by Hamas and PA are to be taken by international community to rebuild Gaza resources.

Now THAT could be agreed upon, and should be.


8. Palestinians are to become self sufficient. How is up to them. Israel will have no duty or obligation to provide anything towards Gaza until they have proven they want only peace.

Same question - what about Israel and THEIR part of the peace process?

If the world wants peace, the above should receive no hesitation in being implemented.

If Israel wants peace, what about concessions for them to that end?

They are JUST as guilty of not wanting peace as Hamas and it's suggestions like this crap above (save one point) that perpetuates the bullshit going on in the region.

And shows how little said person understands the actual situation despite that she supposedly has a "hubby in the IDF kicking ass" and is a "Proud Zionist".

This proud idiot is part of the problem, and isn't interested in any real solutions.

Fuck her.
 

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No. The Israelis are Indigenous to the region. That's what people (Palestinians) don't understand.
How so? Even the bible says the Israelis came into that land from Egypt and got to slaughtering to secure it for their people.

Ever read what happened AFTER

Joshua fit the battle of Jericho
And the walls came a-tumbling down?

Short version is he and his army killed everybody.
 

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How so? Even the bible says the Israelis came into that land from Egypt and got to slaughtering to secure it for their people.

The people who we call Israeli's and the Palestinian's both were originally from the land, called Caanan.

They both have claims to the land.

Anyone who thinks/says otherwise is wrong. Period. Using the excuse that it was "Jewish Land first" is also bull and lies used to try and justify Jewish aggression against Arab peoples.

But then the same goes for Arab issues with Jews so...


Ever read what happened AFTER

Joshua fit the battle of Jericho
And the walls came a-tumbling down?

Short version is he and his army killed everybody.

True, but that doesn't fit with the idea of poor, innocent Jews people somehow seem to have.
 

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The three hostages were identified as young men who were abducted from Israeli communities near the Gaza border.


So, will Israel's IDF get the blame, or no?


Israeli political and military leaders often say freeing all the hostages is their top aim in the war alongside destroying Hamas.
Still, in seven weeks since ground troops pushed into northern Gaza, troops have not rescued any hostages. They freed one early in the conflict and found the bodies of several others. Hamas released more than 100 in swaps for Palestinian prisoners last month, and more than 130 are believed to still be in captivity.


Anyone who believes that, I've a moon to sell you!


In southern Gaza, the Al Jazeera television network said an Israeli strike Friday in the city of Khan Younis killed cameraman Samer Abu Daqqa and wounded its chief correspondent in Gaza, Wael Dahdouh. The two were reporting at a school that was hit by an earlier airstrike when a drone launched a second strike, the network said.

Speaking from a hospital bed, Dahdouh told the network that he managed to walk to an ambulance. Abu Daqqa lay bleeding in the school and died hours later. An ambulance tried to reach the school to evacuate him but had to turn back because roads were blocked by the rubble of destroyed houses, it said.

Al Jazeera correspondent Wael Dahdouh is treated at Nasser hospital Friday after being wounded in an Israeli strike in the Khan Younis refugee camp, southern Gaza Strip.
Dahdouh, a veteran of covering Israel-Gaza wars whose wife and children were killed by an Israeli strike earlier in the war, was wounded by shrapnel in his right arm.

According to the Committee to Protect Journalists, Abu Daqqa is the 64th journalist to be killed since the conflict erupted between Hamas and Israel. That number includes 57 Palestinians, four Israelis and three Lebanese journalists.



Israel has a habit of killing Journalists, regardless of who they report for.

I suppose though the only ones that'd matter would be the four Israelis?

THIS is why Hamas has "won" this war, and why Israel has lost.

And why the cycle will just kick up again, and again, and again.
 

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Despite their deadly clumsiness, Serryah, I gotta support Israel.

Yes, encourage them to be extra-special careful and honest in admitting their errors. But the alternative is a horror show.

Oddly, perhaps the best places in the Middle East to be a Muslim Arab are Jerusalem and Tel Aviv.
 

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The IDF killed three hostages by mistake.

Debate the politics as much as you like, but Retired Canadian Soldier and I know that this is the ultimate horror for a soldier. We'd rather die than cause a "friendly fire" death.

Have a little sympathy for the soldiers.
 

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Despite their deadly clumsiness, Serryah, I gotta support Israel.

If Israel were to really want peace, I'd support them too. Like I used to, when I thought that's what they wanted.

But they don't and I learned that a long time ago.

As much as Hamas doesn't.

It's why I don't support either place.

Yes, encourage them to be extra-special careful and honest in admitting their errors. But the alternative is a horror show.

Sure, it's a horror show - for who? Why does one side get to have a "worse horror show" than the other? Why can't BOTH sides be equally horrifying, as they are?

This is the biggest thing I don't get; why is the atrocities suffered by Israel so much more "important" than those by Palestinians? If someone could explain it in a way that doesn't negate the fact that Palestinians have also suffered atrocities at the hands of Israel, then maybe you could change my mind.

But to me, standing with Israel is standing with Apartheid, Genocide, violations of human rights and giving Israel a pass because of World Guilt.

Just like standing with Palestine is standing with terrorism, barbarism, inhumanity, and violation of human rights.

I refuse to play that game of who is the "better horrible nation".


Oddly, perhaps the best places in the Middle East to be a Muslim Arab are Jerusalem and Tel Aviv.

And yet that depends.



I suppose they're the best places because they don't have to fear being bombed out... yet.
 

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It ain't peachy-keen by a long road, but being an Arab Muslim in Israel is a lot better than being one in one of the wackaloon countries that will put you in prison indefinitely for. . . being clean-shaven. Or wearing a top that reveals (gasp!) your upper arms on a 35+ degree day.

Everything we despise about the American and Canadian right wings is just Tuesday in Islamic countries.
 

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The IDF killed three hostages by mistake.

Debate the politics as much as you like, but Retired Canadian Soldier and I know that this is the ultimate horror for a soldier. We'd rather die than cause a "friendly fire" death.

Have a little sympathy for the soldiers.

Believe it or not, I do have sympathy for SOME soldiers. Some.

I've also seen too many videos of soldiers committing horrible acts against Palestinians who are just wanting to keep their homes. Or reports of them killing journalists by "mistake" when that mistake was next to impossible to make.

I may not be a soldier, but that doesn't mean I don't know anything about it.

Maybe they were killed by mistake.

And maybe they weren't.

I don't trust the IDF as a whole, because I don't trust their leadership. They've lied too much about things to encourage "Trust".