Hamas attacks Israel

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Secretary of State Antony Blinken took US calls for “humanitarian pauses” in the Israel-Hamas war to key Arab allies, who publicly insisted on an immediate cease-fire instead. (Surprise…not surprised)

Yeah, not surprised at all. If the Arab nations want a real cease-fire, they should be going into Gaza themselves and taking Hamas out.

Ultimately, Hamas believes international pressure for Israel to end the siege, as civilian casualties mount, could force a ceasefire and a negotiated settlement that would see the militant group emerge with a tangible concession such as the release of thousands of Palestinian prisoners in exchange for Israeli hostages, the sources said.

Which usually happens.

Honestly, I hope it doesn't this time. But to do that Israel and other nations who have people held by Hamas have to decide - do they help Israel destroy all Gaza to get to Hamas, and know their people will likely be killed in retaliation? Do they go in on their own - since Gaza is a 'free zone' with no real nation and is instead just controlled by Warden Israel who wouldn't find issues with a special ops in to free people? Or does every nation say "Screw our people being held" and deny negotiation with Hamas until they agree to turn themselves over, disban, leave Gaza, etc or face death themselves, basically forget the prisoners exist?

Tough choices. Or they can play Hamas' little game which in the end does nothing.

The group has made it clear to the U.S. and Israel at indirect, Qatar-mediated hostage negotiations that it wants to force such a prisoner release in exchange for hostages, according to four Hamas officials, a regional official and a person familiar with the White House's thinking.

Not hard to 'think' of this since this is their MO for years.

Whatever; blow up the entirety of the region, Israel, Gaza, West Bank, Golan; destroy it all and rebuild from the rubble.
 

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Hezbollah leader taunts Israel in first speech since Israel-Hamas war started

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Published Nov 03, 2023 • Last updated 1 day ago • 3 minute read


BEIRUT — Celebratory gunshots rang out over Beirut as thousands packed into a square in the southern suburbs of the Lebanese capital on Friday to watch a televised speech by Hassan Nasrallah, the leader of the militant Lebanese Hezbollah group.


Nasrallah taunted Israel in his remarks, which were broadcast via a video-link. It was his first address to supporters since the beginning of the Israel-Hamas war, sparked by the Palestinian militants’ deadly Oct. 7 incursion into southern Israel.


The speech came a day after the most significant escalation in clashes between Hezbollah and Israeli forces on the Israel-Lebanon border since the war started — and on the same day as a visit to Israel by the top U.S. diplomat. U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken met with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to urge protections for civilians in the fighting with Hamas, as Israeli troops tightened their encirclement of Gaza City.

In his lengthy remarks, Nasrallah praised the Hamas attack four weeks ago in which the militants attacked farming villages, towns and military posts in southern Israel. More than 1,400 people were killed in Israel in the attack.


“This great, large-scale operation was purely the result of Palestinian planning and implementation,” Nasrallah said, suggesting his militia had no part in the attack. “The great secrecy made this operation greatly successful.”



He also said that Oct. 7 had come as “proof that Israel is weaker than a spider’s web” and that one month into the war, it allegedly “has not been able to make any achievement.”

Nasrallah also criticized the strong U.S. backing of Israel in its bombardment of Gaza that has killed more than 9,000 people, mostly civilians. While U.S. officials in recent days have pushed more publicly for protecting civilians in Gaza, they have yet to call for a cease-fire.

The Hezbollah leader said President Joe Biden had made a “fake argument that Hamas cut off children’s heads (without) evidence, but stayed silent for the thousands of children in Gaza who were decapitated and their limbs were torn apart” by Israeli bombing.


Nasrallah’s speech had been widely anticipated throughout the region as a sign of whether the Israel-Hamas conflict would spiral into a regional war.

Hamas leaders have been pushing — sometimes publicly — for Hezbollah to widen its involvement. Nasrallah met last week in Beirut with senior Hamas official Saleh al-Arouri and with Ziad Nakhaleh of the allied group Islamic Jihad.

However, Hezbollah officials have avoided publicly setting a specific red line, saying vaguely that they would join the war if they see that Hamas is on the verge of defeat.

Since the beginning of the war, Hezbollah, an ally of Hamas, had taken calculated steps to keep Israel’s military busy on its border with Lebanon, but not to the extent of igniting an all-out war.


The Israeli military said seven of their soldiers and one civilian had been killed on the northern border as of Friday. More than 50 Hezbollah fighters and 10 militants with allied groups, as well as 10 civilians, including a Reuters journalist, have been killed on the Lebanese side of the border.

Israel considers the Iran-backed Lebanese Shiite militant group its most serious immediate threat, estimating that Hezbollah has around 150,000 rockets and missiles aimed at Israel, as well as drones and surface-to-air and surface-to-sea missiles.

But a full-on conflict would also be costly for Hezbollah, which fought a 34-day war with Israel in 2006 that ended with a draw — but not before Israeli bombing reduced swaths of southern Lebanon, the eastern Bekaa Valley and Beirut’s southern suburbs to rubble.

A new all-out war would also displace hundreds of thousands of Hezbollah’s supporters and cause wide damage at a time when Lebanon is in the throes of a historic four-year economic meltdown.
 

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Will there be a Gaza? Bibi has stated numerous times there wont be two states and that he can guilt trip Americans to manipulate them into support.

Saudis handed their airspace over to US Air to air tankers for Israeli F35s to run sorties on Yemen and Iran. Mo B. Salami has picked his side.

This is far from over. It's not WW3, it's TGRW1. The Great Reset War 1
 
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Israeli rescuers release aftermath video of Hamas attack on music festival, adding chilling details

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Isabel Debre
Published Nov 04, 2023 • Last updated 1 day ago • 2 minute read


JERUSALEM — An Israeli security officer could be seen drawing a pistol, his hand shaking violently.


Hours earlier that day, Oct. 7, these desolate fields in southern Israel had teemed with thousands of young people dancing to electronic music under the night sky and camping out in tents or mobile homes.


Now, it was silent.

The officer peered quickly into one of the trailers.

“Who’s inside?” he called out in Hebrew, his voice pained. It was empty. He moved onto the rest of the festival grounds, searching for signs of life following the Hamas rampage through the outdoor concert.

“It’s the police!” he yelled again and again, his voice rising in panic. “Are there any wounded?”

Silence.

The officer moved to the outdoor bar. Hovering over the Coca‐Cola coolers and beer-tap levers, he shouted louder, “Wounded?” His camera tilted down.




There were more than a dozen bodies — some encrusted with dirt, others riddled with bullets. They were strewn around the bar and piled on top of each other, hair matted with dark blood, limbs twisted at an unnatural angle. The short shorts with fringe, cut-off T-shirts and stylish white sneakers were reminders that these mangled bodies had been young, carefree partygoers just before dawn.

The graphic and harrowing scene unfolds in a roughly 100-second clip of police body camera footage released Saturday by a first-responder team in southern Israel. It was a chilling depiction of what rescuers encountered in the wake of Hamas’ unprecedented attack on the sleepy Israeli farm communities.



One of Hamas’ first targets was the Nova music festival near Kibbutz Be’eri, only five kilometers (3 miles) from the Gaza Strip. After surging over the border, Hamas gunmen emptied rounds of live ammunition on the revelers, including hand grenades and mortar fire, killing over 260 people in what has become the biggest civilian massacre in Israeli history.

The body camera footage — and other horrifying videos circulating on social media along with stories from survivors who staggered across fields to find refuge in nearby orchards — add details to what happened that Saturday.

The magnitude of the devastation from Hamas’ cross-border assault is still setting in for Israel a month later as the Israeli military unleashes a devastating offensive against Hamas that has killed more than 9,400 Palestinians in Gaza, according to the territory’s health officials.

Israel is still in mourning over the 1,400 people killed in the Oct. 7 assault, many of them civilians. Forensic specialists are still working to identify more victims. Families are still scouring for any bits of news about the over 240 Israelis taken hostage in Gaza, including young Israelis from the festival.

After stumbling upon the bodies beneath the bar, the Israeli officer became desperate. “Is there someone with a sign of life? Give us a sign of life,” he pleaded. His voice was no longer frantic, but thrumming with sorrow.

“Somebody, please! Can someone answer?”

There was no answer.
 

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"destroying a mosque is a war crime".... really???
how about when it has 50 rockets aimed at civilians in israel inside?????

 

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"destroying a mosque is a war crime".... really???
how about when it has 50 rockets aimed at civilians in israel inside?????


How about a Church? Hit by Israeli munitions?


It's all just buildings; who gives a fuck. Church, Mosque, Temple.

Destroy it all and the people inside.
 

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How about a Church? Hit by Israeli munitions?


It's all just buildings; who gives a fuck. Church, Mosque, Temple.

Destroy it all and the people inside.

Is that the church that got damaged because of its close proximity to a Hamas ammo depot or something?