Hamas attacks Israel
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That part of the world's really old. Damn near everything's been tried.
Yeah. Short term though, how should Israel respond to Hamas in Gaza, knowing Hamas’s intentions and objectives and tactics of using the citizenry of Gaza and its other recently acquired hostages as human shields?
It’s not as if Hamas ever tried to make this a secret. It’s founding charter states that, ”The Day of Judgment will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say, ‘O Muslims, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.’ ”
It’s not as if Hamas ever tried to make this a secret. It’s founding charter states that, ”The Day of Judgment will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say, ‘O Muslims, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.’ ”
The Israeli military said its troops were fighting Hamas militants in close-quarter combat in the ruined streets after encircling Gaza City in their bid to wipe out the Islamist group that controls the small, densely populated territory.
The Israeli military said its troops and tanks were encountering mines and booby traps as they advanced in Gaza. Hamas fighters were making use of a vast underground tunnel network to stage hit-and-run attacks.
Israeli forces also pounded Gaza from ground, sea and air throughout the night amid rising global alarm over scarcities, collapsing medical services and a civilian death toll that has now surpassed 9,000.
Israel strikes Gaza ambulance; Netanyahu rejects halt without hostage release — Reuters
Israel struck an ambulance near a Gaza hospital on Friday in an attack the military said targeted militants, and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu rejected calls by Washington's top diplomat for a halt to fighting unless hostages held by Hamas are freed.
This could backfire. Look at what weak Ukraine did to Russia in the first few weeks and here we are today with 800-1000 dead Russians a day.
The Israeli military said its troops were fighting Hamas militants in close-quarter combat in the ruined streets after encircling Gaza City in their bid to wipe out the Islamist group that controls the small, densely populated territory.
The Israeli military said its troops and tanks were encountering mines and booby traps as they advanced in Gaza. Hamas fighters were making use of a vast underground tunnel network to stage hit-and-run attacks.
Israeli forces also pounded Gaza from ground, sea and air throughout the night amid rising global alarm over scarcities, collapsing medical services and a civilian death toll that has now surpassed 9,000.
Israel strikes Gaza ambulance; Netanyahu rejects halt without hostage release — Reuters
Israel struck an ambulance near a Gaza hospital on Friday in an attack the military said targeted militants, and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu rejected calls by Washington's top diplomat for a halt to fighting unless hostages held by Hamas are freed.apple.news
"The Israeli Military Said"...
The same military that "Said" of civilians killed innocently "it's a consequence of war" with absolute callus disregard of those lives lost.
"The Israeli Military said"... a lot of things, and sometimes they're not the truth but rather blunt lies.
Why should anyone believe "The Israeli Military" anymore than it should believe Hamas?
They should do their best to wipe out Ham-ass. You can't kill an idea (especially a stupid one), but you can kill people who won't let it go.
This is a war, pure and simple. Which means everyone bearing arms in Gaza either puts down their arms, or they're fair game. Achieve surrender, and when you have that, destroy their warstocks and go home.
Provide post-war aid conditioned on the new government doing what it's told.
When in history was the last time an entire prison was levelled for a riot in one prison block?
Israel's been at war since before it began.
The only side that hasn't changed is the Israeli side - sort of. They went from defending themselves to being as extreme as almost all their enemies.
Sure, destroy everything - but not just Gaza. Israel too, because they are just as much at fault at this point as Hamas.
A riot between two opposing prisons that's gone too far...There are two borders that can be seen from space. North and South Korea and Israel and Gaza
I'm sorry but I don't think anyone, including Israel, has been as "extreme" as the Nazi's, Hamas, Hezbollah or ISIS. That is a REALLY STUPID comparison. Israel isn't perfect but no one country has been. But for whatever reason, Israel gets blamed for pretty much all the evil in the world when it's they who are the ones to suffer the most!! Palestinians are their own worst enemy by supporting Hamas. Until the Palestinians themselves start to revolt against Hamas, they'll always be on the losing side.
Sorry, not buying it. Israel gets attacked, they lash back. You may see this as a war with pauses, I disagree. Basically, Israel gets attacked, they kick the asses off their attackers, then go home (or occupy, or occupy then go home). The next attack is a fresh act of war. Israel had given Gaza autonomy. Gaza used that autonomy to attack Israel. That has a price.
Israel gets attacked, they attack back.
And then there's times where Israel attacks (or does stupid shit to instigate knowing what the response will be), Hamas or other terrorist groups attack back (or citizens who don't have access to the weapons the terrorists do) and then it's a fight again.
I don't agree that this isn't all part of one war. It is; a war that's been going on since before Israel existed, when it was an idea. The objective of the War hasn't changed at all since the seeds of current day Israel started.
As for Israel giving Gaza autonomy? When? Cause if they did, it was so hush, hush, no one knew about it, not even the Gazans.
Israel controlled everything that went into Gaza (mostly; the important stuff anyway like food, medicine, electricity...), they controlled who could go in, who could leave.
That's not autonomy, or are you saying that prisoners are autonomous?
I'm not going to quibble over what band of self-governance falls under the label "autonomy," but there's a reason the government of Gaza is violently anti-Israel. If the provincial government of Saskatchewan declared itself dedicated to the destruction of Canada, and attacked Manitoba, Alberta, and Ottawa with military-level force, what do you think the response would be?
I'm not sure how it worked in Canada, but in the U.S. we have a long history of wiping out people who violently resist invasion and occupation.
Yes, there is, and it's quite a few things beyond just Religion.
Honestly, probably no different than other nations - attack back.
But I don't think Canada would purposefully commit war crimes and break the Geneva convention repeatedly, nor would Canada isolate Saskatchewan into a small ass chunk of land and rule over it with an iron fist that equals apartheid.
Yep, starting with the Natives and branching outward.
That doesn't make it right. "Just cause the US does it, it means the rest of the world can too" is not a valid reason for any nation to do anything.
What violations of the Geneva Conventions do you allege?
And how do they line up with the Hague Convention?