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A shooting in Jacksonville, Florida, that left 3 dead was racially motivated: Sheriff
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Published Aug 26, 2023 • Last updated 1 day ago • 1 minute read

The Jacksonville, Florida, sheriff says that a racially motivated shooter fatally shot three people inside a Dollar General Store on Saturday before killing himself.


“Plainly put, this shooting was racially motivated and he hated Black people,” Sheriff T.K. Waters said at a news conference.


Mayor Donna Deegan told WJXT “there are a number of fatalities” inside the store. Numerous police officers were in the area near Edward Waters University, a small historically Black university.

“This is unacceptable,” Deegan told the station. “One shooting is too much but these mass shootings are really hard to take.”

Jacksonville City Council member Ju’Coby Pittman told the station the shooter is dead. She did not give details.

“My heart is heavy. I am tired of all of the shootings,” she said.

Edward Waters University students were being kept in their dorms, the school said in a statement. No students or faculty are believed involved, the school said.


Further details were not immediately available. The city says it and the Jacksonville Sheriff’s Office will hold a press conference.

Penny Jones told the The Associated Press that she worked at the store until a few months ago. She lives a few blocks away in the predominantly Black neighborhood.

“I’m just waiting to hear about my co-workers that I used to work with,” Jones said. “I don’t know if it’s safe to move about the neighborhood.”

Jones added that she was “feeling awkward, scared.”

“I don’t want to leave my house. I’m thinking, do I want to go back to the store? Is this going to start happening more frequently? I don’t know what the cause of it is. I’m confused. It’s a lot of different feelings going on right now,” she said Saturday afternoon.

The shooting happened five years to the day when a gunman opened fire during a video game tournament in Jacksonville, killing two people before fatally shooting himself.
 

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Sheriff gives first details of how white man fatally shot 3 Black people at Florida store
Author of the article:Associated Press
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Published Aug 27, 2023 • Last updated 9 hours ago • 5 minute read
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This video grab shows a press conference screen displaying a handgun found on the scene of a shooting in Jacksonville, Florida, August 26, 2023. PHOTO BY SCREEN GRAB /AFP via Getty Images
JACKSONVILLE, Fla. (AP) — A 21-year-old white man fatally shot three Black people in Florida with guns he bought legally despite once being involuntarily committed for a mental health exam, the local sheriff said Sunday.


Ryan Palmeter shot one of his victims as she sat in her car outside a Jacksonville store; another just after he entered the store, and the third minutes later, Jacksonville’s sheriff said.


Palmeter used an AR-15 semi-automatic rifle and a Glock handgun in the shooting, Sheriff T.K. Waters said at a news conference.

Palmeter had legally purchased his guns even though he had been involuntarily committed for a mental health examination in 2017. Palmeter killed himself after killing the three victims.

Waters identified those shot in Saturday’s attack at a Dollar General as Angela Michelle Carr, 52, who was shot in her car; store employee A.J. Laguerre, 19, who was shot as he tried to flee; and customer Jerrald Gallion, 29, who was shot as he entered the store in a predominantly Black neighborhood.


Palmeter, who lived with his parents in neighboring Clay County, texted his father during the shooting, and told him to break into his room, Waters said. The father then found a suicide note, a will, and writings Waters described as racist.

Waters said the guns were purchased in April and in June, with the dealers following all the laws and procedures, including background checks. Because Palmeter was released after his mental health examination, that would have not shown up on his background checks.

“Therein lies the difficulty. When a person grabs a hold of a gun with hateful intentions, it is very difficult to stop that from happening,” the sheriff said.

On Saturday shortly before 1 p.m., Palmeter parked at Edward Waters University, an historically Black college less than a mile (kilometer) from the Dollar General. The sheriff said he posted a TikTok video of himself donning a bullet-resistant vest and gloves. It was about this time that a university security guard spotted Palmeter and parked near him. He said it appears that Palmeter did not intend to attack the school.


“He had an opportunity to do violence at (Edward Waters) and did not. There were people in very close proximity,” the sheriff said.

Palmeter drove off and the security guard flagged down a Jacksonville sheriff’s officer who was about to send out an alert to other officers when the shooting began at the store.

The sheriff said Palmeter, wearing his vest covered by a shirt, gloves and a mask, first stopped in front of Carr’s vehicle and fired 11 shots with his rifle through her windshield, killing her.

He entered the store and turned to his right, shooting Laguerre, video shows. Numerous people fled through the back door, the sheriff said. He chased after them and fired, but missed. He went back inside the store and found Gallion entering the front door with his girlfriend. He fatally shot Gallion.


He then chased a woman through the store and fired, but missed.

About a minute later, Palmeter entered the store’s office and texted his father, telling him to use a screwdriver to break into his room. There, his father found the writings, which Waters called “quite frankly, the diary of a madman.”

“He was just completely irrational,” Waters said. “But with irrational thoughts, he knew what he was doing. He was 100% lucid.”

Eleven minutes after the shooting began, and as police entered the store, Palmeter killed himself.

“We must say clearly and forcefully that white supremacy has no place in America,” President Joe Biden said in a statement Sunday. “We must refuse to live in a country where Black families going to the store or Black students going to school live in fear of being gunned down because of the color of their skin.”


Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis, who is running for the GOP nomination for president and who has loosened gun restrictions in Florida, was loudly booed as he addressed a vigil drawing about 200 people Sunday evening. Ju’Coby Pittman, a Jacksonville city councilwoman who represents the neighborhood where the shooting happened, stepped in to ask the crowd to listen.

“It ain’t about parties today,” she said. “A bullet don’t know a party.”

DeSantis said that on Monday the state would be announcing financial support for security at Edward Waters University and to help the affected families, calling the gunman a “major league scumbag.”

“What he did is totally unacceptable in the state of Florida,” DeSantis said. “We are not going to let people be targeted based on their race.”


Earlier Sunday, the pastor of a church near the site of the shooting told congregants to follow Jesus Christ’s example and keep their sadness from turning to rage.

The latest in a long history of American racist killings was at the forefront of services at St. Paul AME Church, about 3 miles (4.8 kilometers) from the crime scene. Jacksonville Mayor Donna Deegan wept during the service, while other attendees focused on Florida’s political rhetoric and said it has fueled such racist attacks.

“Our hearts are broken,” the Rev. Willie Barnes told about 100 congregants. “If any of you are like me, I’m fighting trying to not be angry.”

Elected officials said racist attacks like Saturday’s have been encouraged by political rhetoric targeting “wokeness” and policies from the Republican-led state government headed by DeSantis, including one taking aim at the teaching of Black history in Florida.


“We must be clear, it was not just racially motivated, it was racist violence that has been perpetuated by rhetoric and policies designed to attack Black people, period,” said state Rep. Angie Nixon, a Jacksonville Democrat.

“We cannot sit idly by as our history is being erased, as our lives are being devalued, as wokeness is being attacked,” Nixon said. “Because let’s be clear — that is red meat to a base of voters.”

Rudolph McKissick, a national board member of the Rev. Al Sharpton’s National Action Network, Baptist bishop, and senior pastor of the Bethel Church in Jacksonville, was in the city on Saturday when the shooting occurred in the historically Black New Town neighborhood

“Nobody is having honest, candid conversations about the presence of racism,” McKissick said.

Past shootings targeting Black Americans include one at a Buffalo, New York, supermarket in 2022 and a historic African Methodist Episcopal church in Charleston, South Carolina, in 2015.

The Buffalo shooting, which killed 10 people, stands apart as one of the deadliest targeted attacks on Black people by a lone white gunman in U.S. history. The shooter was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole.
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Your skin colour, or your ethnic origin, isn’t an accomplishment to be proud of, in my opinion, as it’s an accident of birth. Doesn’t mean you can’t love yourself or accept yourself….& it’s no reason to not be proud of yourself I guess.

Having a specific pigmentation or ethnic origin isn’t a goal to work towards, it just is. Unlike a Gender (which apparently is different than biological sex) is something that you can change and be proud of I’m told. You can change your gender, and you can change your ZIP Code, but you can’t change your biological sex or your race.

I can see why the second group in the attached video is confused about the issue… as they’ve been instructed to pussyfoot on this subject since their youth or be called and treated as racists, and I can see why the first group in the attached video has the reaction they do because it’s something many would have had hammered into them since their youth that they’d have to be proud of their complexion (?Is that the wrong turn?) or pigmentation for whatever reason.
 

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yeah, it's an accident of birth... that you're born into your situation without much say in the matter.

the question could have been phrased better.

it's ok to be proud of your race, that's not the same as being proud because of the race you happen to be.

the education system has failed these kids
 
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Your skin colour, or your ethnic origin, isn’t an accomplishment to be proud of, in my opinion, as it’s an accident of birth. Doesn’t mean you can’t love yourself or accept yourself….& it’s no reason to not be proud of yourself I guess.

Having a specific pigmentation or ethnic origin isn’t a goal to work towards, it just is. Unlike a Gender (which apparently is different than biological sex) is something that you can change and be proud of I’m told. You can change your gender, and you can change your ZIP Code, but you can’t change your biological sex or your race.

I can see why the second group in the attached video is confused about the issue… as they’ve been instructed to pussyfoot on this subject since their youth or be called and treated as racists, and I can see why the first group in the attached video has the reaction they do because it’s something many would have had hammered into them since their youth that they’d have to be proud of their complexion (?Is that the wrong turn?) or pigmentation for whatever reason.
Somebody has a divisive agenda and it's not me, you, not Cuban Proud Boys, Blacktivists, Jackie Chan or Ru Paul or Eco-Fascists or any identifiable group.

Some serious bullshit is going down far beyond ESG scores or DEI.
 

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Somebody has a divisive agenda and it's not me, you, not Cuban Proud Boys, Blacktivists, Jackie Chan or Ru Paul or Eco-Fascists or any identifiable group.

Some serious bullshit is going down far beyond ESG scores or DEI.
That was interesting. My own guesses where:
1) 1000 (was 961) Black people shot by police
2) then my guess as to how many were armed (I had an issue because he didn’t define armed, but I was really wrong anyway on my answer)… I guessed 200 thinking he meant specifically guns, so I was out for lunch on that.

(I would like to see the same sort of breakdown when it comes to tasers though. Broke down by ethnicity, then broke down as to how many were unarmed, been broke down by biological sex, then broke down by age… but that’s just me)

Then I had an issue with his math what he said, “0.6% out of 1 million…(?) because that’s not how percentages work. 😁” if that was actually expressed as a percentage is decimal place is out by five decimal places (his screen showed a ratio). As a percentage, the above number would actually be 0.000006% would it not?
 

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.6% of a million is 6,000
Expressed as a percentage. How would you write it?

On his slide screen presentation, he had the ratio 0.6:1,000,000 but what he said was 0.6% of a Million… so what he said, and what was on the screen were two different things…at least with my weak math game… that used to be strong but gets a little weaker or every year.
 

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That was interesting. My own guesses where:
1) 1000 (was 961) Black people shot by police
2) then my guess as to how many were armed (I had an issue because he didn’t define armed, but I was really wrong anyway on my answer)… I guessed 200 thinking he meant specifically guns, so I was out for lunch on that.

(I would like to see the same sort of breakdown when it comes to tasers though. Broke down by ethnicity, then broke down as to how many were unarmed, been broke down by biological sex, then broke down by age… but that’s just me)

Then I had an issue with his math what he said, “0.6% out of 1 million…(?) because that’s not how percentages work. 😁” if that was actually expressed as a percentage is decimal place is out by five decimal places (his screen showed a ratio). As a percentage, the above number would actually be 0.000006% would it not?
Id assume taser, pepperspray, beatings, and lack of med treatment incidents would be killed by cop.

George Floyd was called "death by cop" even when he overdosed.

Ill review the math.