Rapporteur David Johnson, Eminent Canadian
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So? The party is a cult of personality at this point anyway….so back to, “Will Trudeau’s ego allow him to step down at this point?”
(I hear what you’re saying, but it’s a mess. NDP with Jagmeet’s non-coalition coalition that not a coalition-coalition propping up the liberals, regardless of what they do, will send them off to the backwoods for a cycle or two also…& the Green Party is still the Green Party….& the Bloc is still just Quebec….& then there’s still the demonizing of Harper from several elections back….)
Freeland’s credibility is in the toilet. I’m sure the Liberals can parachute somebody into place, but will Trudeau allow it?
(I hear what you’re saying, but it’s a mess. NDP with Jagmeet’s non-coalition coalition that not a coalition-coalition propping up the liberals, regardless of what they do, will send them off to the backwoods for a cycle or two also…& the Green Party is still the Green Party….& the Bloc is still just Quebec….& then there’s still the demonizing of Harper from several elections back….)
Freeland’s credibility is in the toilet. I’m sure the Liberals can parachute somebody into place, but will Trudeau allow it?
The same old guard that put Trudeau in will take him out.
Who do you honestly think they’re going to replace him with? There have been some Liberal celebrity names thrown around in the past, but a few of those have been soiled by Trudeau since then, etc…
Who hasn’t soiled themselves with their association to Trudeau in the Libs? It would almost have to be an outsider to their current party….
When last lost in political wilderness they had huge trouble finding a suitable leader , remember the dog Kyoto and his human and the all hat no cattle candidate from New York City .
Well….It’s beyond absurd for Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to accuse the Conservatives of blocking a public inquiry into foreign interference by Beijing in the last two federal elections.
No one in the House of Commons has been more adamantly against a public inquiry than Trudeau.
If he wanted one, he could call it today.
In the real world, Trudeau has ignored repeated motions passed in the House of Commons for him to launch a public inquiry, which he alone has the power to do.
He has also ignored the views of most Canadians, the majority of whom, according to the polls, want a public inquiry.
Instead, Trudeau has bobbed and weaved for months — raising questions about what it is that he so fears an independent public inquiry will reveal.
Trudeau now claims that he hopes to call a public inquiry in the coming weeks — whatever that means — but that it’s the Conservatives (?), unlike the NDP and the BQ, who are holding up a consensus on the mandate of the inquiry and who should head it????
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Conservative leader Pierre Poilievre accused the PM of lying.
He said the “Conservatives have been asking every day this week to meet to confirm an agreement” on the final wording of the terms of reference, “but neither (Intergovernmental Affairs Minister) Dominic LeBlanc, nor his office picked up the phone or answered an email in five days since Friday. They also have not provided the final text that was discussed.”
In fact, Poilievre said, while Trudeau was accusing them of being uncooperative, the Conservatives received an email from LeBlanc’s office, “asking us to wait longer for them, because they still do not have a response on whether to proceed with the inquiry (the) parties discussed.
“Conservatives are sitting next to our phones waiting for the prime minister’s decision,” Poilievre said. “Lying, delaying and blaming others won’t change that … only he has the power to call an inquiry. Let him do it today.”
No one in the House of Commons has been more adamantly against a public inquiry than Trudeau.
If he wanted one, he could call it today.
In the real world, Trudeau has ignored repeated motions passed in the House of Commons for him to launch a public inquiry, which he alone has the power to do.
He has also ignored the views of most Canadians, the majority of whom, according to the polls, want a public inquiry.
Instead, Trudeau has bobbed and weaved for months — raising questions about what it is that he so fears an independent public inquiry will reveal.
Trudeau now claims that he hopes to call a public inquiry in the coming weeks — whatever that means — but that it’s the Conservatives (?), unlike the NDP and the BQ, who are holding up a consensus on the mandate of the inquiry and who should head it????
EDITORIAL: PM now pretends he wants interference inquiry — Toronto Sun
It’s beyond absurd for Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to accuse the Conservatives of blocking a public inquiry into foreign interference by Beijing in the last two federal elections. No one in the House of Commons has been more adamantly against a public inquiry than Trudeau. If he wanted one, he...
He said the “Conservatives have been asking every day this week to meet to confirm an agreement” on the final wording of the terms of reference, “but neither (Intergovernmental Affairs Minister) Dominic LeBlanc, nor his office picked up the phone or answered an email in five days since Friday. They also have not provided the final text that was discussed.”
In fact, Poilievre said, while Trudeau was accusing them of being uncooperative, the Conservatives received an email from LeBlanc’s office, “asking us to wait longer for them, because they still do not have a response on whether to proceed with the inquiry (the) parties discussed.
“Conservatives are sitting next to our phones waiting for the prime minister’s decision,” Poilievre said. “Lying, delaying and blaming others won’t change that … only he has the power to call an inquiry. Let him do it today.”
He lies & he doesn't need permission from anyone to call said inquiry. That's on him.Well….It’s beyond absurd for Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to accuse the Conservatives of blocking a public inquiry into foreign interference by Beijing in the last two federal elections.
No one in the House of Commons has been more adamantly against a public inquiry than Trudeau.
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If he wanted one, he could call it today.
In the real world, Trudeau has ignored repeated motions passed in the House of Commons for him to launch a public inquiry, which he alone has the power to do.
He has also ignored the views of most Canadians, the majority of whom, according to the polls, want a public inquiry.
Instead, Trudeau has bobbed and weaved for months — raising questions about what it is that he so fears an independent public inquiry will reveal.
Trudeau now claims that he hopes to call a public inquiry in the coming weeks — whatever that means — but that it’s the Conservatives (?), unlike the NDP and the BQ, who are holding up a consensus on the mandate of the inquiry and who should head it????
Conservative leader Pierre Poilievre accused the PM of lying.EDITORIAL: PM now pretends he wants interference inquiry — Toronto Sun
It’s beyond absurd for Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to accuse the Conservatives of blocking a public inquiry into foreign interference by Beijing in the last two federal elections. No one in the House of Commons has been more adamantly against a public inquiry than Trudeau. If he wanted one, he...
He said the “Conservatives have been asking every day this week to meet to confirm an agreement” on the final wording of the terms of reference, “but neither (Intergovernmental Affairs Minister) Dominic LeBlanc, nor his office picked up the phone or answered an email in five days since Friday. They also have not provided the final text that was discussed.”
In fact, Poilievre said, while Trudeau was accusing them of being uncooperative, the Conservatives received an email from LeBlanc’s office, “asking us to wait longer for them, because they still do not have a response on whether to proceed with the inquiry (the) parties discussed.
“Conservatives are sitting next to our phones waiting for the prime minister’s decision,” Poilievre said. “Lying, delaying and blaming others won’t change that … only he has the power to call an inquiry. Let him do it today.”
Progress…depending on who’s commenting.
The tone from the two biggest parties in the House of Commons was markedly different from earlier this week when Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and Official Opposition Leader Pierre Poilievre traded barbs over lack of progress in the talks.
Sebastian Skamski, director of media relations for the Opposition Leader’s Office, said the parties actually reached agreement on the terms of reference for a public inquiry.
He said now the discussion is turning to who might lead it. The Conservatives have submitted suggestions, Mr. Skamski said – something other parties had already done. “All parties have shared their suggested names for a potential commissioner,” he said.
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A spokesperson for the Liberal cabinet minister in charge of negotiations on an inquiry, however, would only say that talks Friday went well.
“It was a very productive meeting,” said Kelly Ouimet, director of communications for Intergovernmental Affairs Minister Dominic LeBlanc.
“Work continues and we hope to continue to make progress expeditiously next week.”
Ms. Ouimet declined to confirm that any agreement had been reached. “No agreement yet but excellent progress being made” she said.
Ms. Ouimet said from the Liberals’ perspective, agreement has been reached on some components of an inquiry. ”There are elements that we have agreed to; more details to be worked out and we will announce more in time.”
The NDP and Bloc Québécois could not be immediately reach for comment.
(The governing Liberals have resisted launching an inquiry in recent months despite three votes calling for one in the House of Commons by opposition parties, who hold the majority of seats.)
The tone from the two biggest parties in the House of Commons was markedly different from earlier this week when Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and Official Opposition Leader Pierre Poilievre traded barbs over lack of progress in the talks.
Sebastian Skamski, director of media relations for the Opposition Leader’s Office, said the parties actually reached agreement on the terms of reference for a public inquiry.
He said now the discussion is turning to who might lead it. The Conservatives have submitted suggestions, Mr. Skamski said – something other parties had already done. “All parties have shared their suggested names for a potential commissioner,” he said.
Liberals and Conservatives report fruitful talks on public inquiry into foreign interference — The Globe and Mail
The tone from the two biggest parties in the House of Commons was markedly different from earlier this week
“It was a very productive meeting,” said Kelly Ouimet, director of communications for Intergovernmental Affairs Minister Dominic LeBlanc.
“Work continues and we hope to continue to make progress expeditiously next week.”
Ms. Ouimet declined to confirm that any agreement had been reached. “No agreement yet but excellent progress being made” she said.
Ms. Ouimet said from the Liberals’ perspective, agreement has been reached on some components of an inquiry. ”There are elements that we have agreed to; more details to be worked out and we will announce more in time.”
The NDP and Bloc Québécois could not be immediately reach for comment.
(The governing Liberals have resisted launching an inquiry in recent months despite three votes calling for one in the House of Commons by opposition parties, who hold the majority of seats.)
A public inquiry should be mandatory for any situation of this magnitude.Progress…depending on who’s commenting.
The tone from the two biggest parties in the House of Commons was markedly different from earlier this week when Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and Official Opposition Leader Pierre Poilievre traded barbs over lack of progress in the talks.
Sebastian Skamski, director of media relations for the Opposition Leader’s Office, said the parties actually reached agreement on the terms of reference for a public inquiry.
He said now the discussion is turning to who might lead it. The Conservatives have submitted suggestions, Mr. Skamski said – something other parties had already done. “All parties have shared their suggested names for a potential commissioner,” he said.
A spokesperson for the Liberal cabinet minister in charge of negotiations on an inquiry, however, would only say that talks Friday went well.Liberals and Conservatives report fruitful talks on public inquiry into foreign interference — The Globe and Mail
The tone from the two biggest parties in the House of Commons was markedly different from earlier this week
“It was a very productive meeting,” said Kelly Ouimet, director of communications for Intergovernmental Affairs Minister Dominic LeBlanc.
“Work continues and we hope to continue to make progress expeditiously next week.”
Ms. Ouimet declined to confirm that any agreement had been reached. “No agreement yet but excellent progress being made” she said.
Ms. Ouimet said from the Liberals’ perspective, agreement has been reached on some components of an inquiry. ”There are elements that we have agreed to; more details to be worked out and we will announce more in time.”
The NDP and Bloc Québécois could not be immediately reach for comment.
(The governing Liberals have resisted launching an inquiry in recent months despite three votes calling for one in the House of Commons by opposition parties, who hold the majority of seats.)
Trudeau may as well say "I'm guilty" and get it over with. Fighting an inquiry is, in the public eye the pretty much the same thing without having to admit it. He knows he's done and delaying in order to cram more bullshit down our throats.
This is good, & pretty funny!!!
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So how many “special raconteurs — sorry, rapporteurs” are now in charge of stripping the veil from the nefarious infiltration of peaceful Canada’s pristine electoral system? I think a dozen at least would be the minimum — appointed one would also hope according to the very best principles of diversity, equity and inclusion, and with serious input from the arts community and environmental groups. After all, any real inquiry must have depth.
Have the dates for cross-country hearings been announced? Are there no barriers whatsoever into what this new Commission or assembly of Super Rapporteurs can have access too. Do we have a deadline — say late this month. After all, the meddling has been going on for a few years, and if we have to wait till, say, the opening of Parliament — why who knows what fresh and superior scandals, as is the ineluctable rule of Liberal management, will have emerged to obscure, overtake and overwhelm the Chinese interference one???
Rex Murphy: Is Marco Mendicino the next special rapporteur? Canadians can only hope — National Post
So how many 'special raconteurs — sorry, rapporteurs' are now in charge?
Have the dates for cross-country hearings been announced? Are there no barriers whatsoever into what this new Commission or assembly of Super Rapporteurs can have access too. Do we have a deadline — say late this month. After all, the meddling has been going on for a few years, and if we have to wait till, say, the opening of Parliament — why who knows what fresh and superior scandals, as is the ineluctable rule of Liberal management, will have emerged to obscure, overtake and overwhelm the Chinese interference one???
Justin Trudeau wants you to know that he can’t call a public inquiry into China’s interference in Canada because the mean Conservatives won’t let him. Sure, according to the law, only Trudeau can call an inquiry, but Pierre Poilievre won’t agree with him on everything, meaning there is no consensus and therefore no inquiry.
It is, of course, a false argument, but it allows Trudeau to continue to rag the puck on doing anything that will give Canadians a better idea of how China has tried to interfere in our democracy.
LILLEY: Trudeau blames opposition for him not being able to do his job — Toronto Sun
Justin Trudeau wants you to know that he can’t call a public inquiry into China’s interference in Canada because the mean Conservatives won’t let him. Sure, according to the law, only Trudeau can call an inquiry, but Pierre Poilievre won’t agree with him on everything, meaning there is no...
“We have had very good discussions with the Bloc Quebecois and the NDP, we’re moving forward towards a consensus, but for now, Conservatives continue to block the process,” Trudeau said Wednesday in French in Quebec.
“We’ve seen that Conservatives just want to destroy everything, they don’t want to have answers. So they’ll have to choose if they want to continue blocking or if they will let the process go through.”
Is that really how things are going? Not quite and the reality is that Trudeau is trying to find a way out of calling an inquiry by blaming the Conservatives for a lack of consensus.
According to the Conservatives, things were going well with regular meetings happening over several weeks until things went quiet after last Friday’s meeting.
“Justin Trudeau is lying when he accuses Conservatives of blocking consensus on a public inquiry into Beijing’s interference,” Poilievre, the Conservative leader, said Thursday in a statement.
Poilievre said that the Conservatives have been waiting for an update from the office of Dominic Leblanc, the minister Trudeau has charged with dealing with this file since last Friday. In their news release, they included a screenshot of an email from Jamie Innes, LeBlanc’s chief of staff.
“Hey. Sorry, still no final answer on the framework changes yet on our side but I continue to push,” the email said.
Well, they are kinda pricks. . .Justin Trudeau wants you to know that he can’t call a public inquiry into China’s interference in Canada because the mean Conservatives won’t let him. Sure, according to the law, only Trudeau can call an inquiry, but Pierre Poilievre won’t agree with him on everything, meaning there is no consensus and therefore no inquiry.
It is, of course, a false argument, but it allows Trudeau to continue to rag the puck on doing anything that will give Canadians a better idea of how China has tried to interfere in our democracy.
That’s some storytelling all on its own…
LILLEY: Trudeau blames opposition for him not being able to do his job — Toronto Sun
Justin Trudeau wants you to know that he can’t call a public inquiry into China’s interference in Canada because the mean Conservatives won’t let him. Sure, according to the law, only Trudeau can call an inquiry, but Pierre Poilievre won’t agree with him on everything, meaning there is no...
But Justin's ready for 'em!
Yeah, but in the last decade, that’s only for minorities and women because of feminism and it’s 2015-ish…Well, they are kinda pricks. . .
But Justin's ready for 'em!
The Conservatives have said they will work with the government on the terms of reference and even provide a list of names they find acceptable to lead an inquiry, but they want Trudeau to commit to an inquiry before they hand over their list. The reason for that, they said, is to prevent Trudeau from appointing another special rapporteur based off the names they provide; they want an inquiry.
Given that Trudeau alone has the power to call an inquiry, his arguments are strange at best. It would appear that he’s trying to avoid calling an inquiry by blaming the Conservatives.
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Given that Trudeau alone has the power to call an inquiry, his arguments are strange at best. It would appear that he’s trying to avoid calling an inquiry by blaming the Conservatives.
LILLEY: Trudeau blames opposition for him not being able to do his job — Toronto Sun
Justin Trudeau wants you to know that he can’t call a public inquiry into China’s interference in Canada because the mean Conservatives won’t let him. Sure, according to the law, only Trudeau can call an inquiry, but Pierre Poilievre won’t agree with him on everything, meaning there is no...
Some just won’t play along , this was supposed to have been swept under the rug months ago .The Conservatives have said they will work with the government on the terms of reference and even provide a list of names they find acceptable to lead an inquiry, but they want Trudeau to commit to an inquiry before they hand over their list. The reason for that, they said, is to prevent Trudeau from appointing another special rapporteur based off the names they provide; they want an inquiry.
Given that Trudeau alone has the power to call an inquiry, his arguments are strange at best. It would appear that he’s trying to avoid calling an inquiry by blaming the Conservatives.
LILLEY: Trudeau blames opposition for him not being able to do his job — Toronto Sun
Justin Trudeau wants you to know that he can’t call a public inquiry into China’s interference in Canada because the mean Conservatives won’t let him. Sure, according to the law, only Trudeau can call an inquiry, but Pierre Poilievre won’t agree with him on everything, meaning there is no...
After several media reports earlier this year, Trudeau first announced former governor general David Johnston as a special rapporteur to look into foreign interference from China’s government in Canada’s 2019 and 2021 elections.
Johnston had recommended he hold his own hearings in lieu of a full public inquiry, but ultimately resigned from his post amid fiery controversy over his personal ties to the prime minister. Since then, the government has said it will work with opposition parties to develop a new plan.
The government has not committed to a full public inquiry, but Intergovernmental Affairs Minister Dominic LeBlanc, who has been meeting with MPs from all parties on the issue, has said it is an option they are “willing” to ‘consider.’
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He has asked opposition parties to suggest a framework and a mandate for the inquiry, which would have to deal with sensitive national intelligence issues.
Poilievre said his party has offered up ideas and is just waiting for the prime minister to commit publicly to a full public inquiry.
“We’ve offered the prime minister all the information he has asked for. We’ve suggested a mandate, a timeframe,” he said. “We have names ready to share with him as soon as he confirms that he’s going to go ahead with it.”
Johnston had recommended he hold his own hearings in lieu of a full public inquiry, but ultimately resigned from his post amid fiery controversy over his personal ties to the prime minister. Since then, the government has said it will work with opposition parties to develop a new plan.
The government has not committed to a full public inquiry, but Intergovernmental Affairs Minister Dominic LeBlanc, who has been meeting with MPs from all parties on the issue, has said it is an option they are “willing” to ‘consider.’
Poilievre 'sitting next to our phone waiting' for Trudeau to update on public inquiry — National Post
'We're sitting next to our phone waiting for him to call with any news on when that inquiry will happen'
He has asked opposition parties to suggest a framework and a mandate for the inquiry, which would have to deal with sensitive national intelligence issues.
Poilievre said his party has offered up ideas and is just waiting for the prime minister to commit publicly to a full public inquiry.
“We’ve offered the prime minister all the information he has asked for. We’ve suggested a mandate, a timeframe,” he said. “We have names ready to share with him as soon as he confirms that he’s going to go ahead with it.”
And the obstruction continuesAfter several media reports earlier this year, Trudeau first announced former governor general David Johnston as a special rapporteur to look into foreign interference from China’s government in Canada’s 2019 and 2021 elections.
Johnston had recommended he hold his own hearings in lieu of a full public inquiry, but ultimately resigned from his post amid fiery controversy over his personal ties to the prime minister. Since then, the government has said it will work with opposition parties to develop a new plan.
The government has not committed to a full public inquiry, but Intergovernmental Affairs Minister Dominic LeBlanc, who has been meeting with MPs from all parties on the issue, has said it is an option they are “willing” to ‘consider.’
Poilievre 'sitting next to our phone waiting' for Trudeau to update on public inquiry — National Post
'We're sitting next to our phone waiting for him to call with any news on when that inquiry will happen'
He has asked opposition parties to suggest a framework and a mandate for the inquiry, which would have to deal with sensitive national intelligence issues.
Poilievre said his party has offered up ideas and is just waiting for the prime minister to commit publicly to a full public inquiry.
“We’ve offered the prime minister all the information he has asked for. We’ve suggested a mandate, a timeframe,” he said. “We have names ready to share with him as soon as he confirms that he’s going to go ahead with it.”