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The person should have no affiliation with any party .
1687111735079.jpegThis is a bit of a weird one in that, the Trudeau Liberals are currently in power, and have won the last three elections, and the Same Trudeau Liberals & the Trudeau Foundation appear to be involved in this issue with the CCP (at this point) up to their eyebrows….so finding someone not affiliated with the Trudeau Liberals and/or the Trudeau Foundation is the bare minimum for at least the appearance of impartiality…which just has not happened yet.
1687111408872.jpegIdeally finding somebody without an affiliation to any of the political parties would be optimal… but at least not the party that has so far been trying to investigate itself, and consistently has found itself innocent….
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'SANCTIONED'

Is there a word more open-ended to interpretation?

prolly gets used in statutes a lot
 

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A journalist whose reporting helped fuel a political firestorm over alleged Chinese meddling in Canadian democracy defended his work before a committee of MPs on Tuesday and added his voice to opposition demands for Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to call a public inquiry.

Sam Cooper, who recently left Global News to start his own online publication, said he stands by his reporting with his former media organization in recent months — including stories that were questioned or contradicted by the government’s now-resigned special rapporteur on foreign interference. Cooper testified as the committee studies allegations of foreign interference in a rare instance of elected officials questioning a journalist about the accuracy of their reporting.

Pressed repeatedly by Liberal MPs, Cooper defended a Global News report from March that included allegations Toronto MP Han Dong told a Chinese diplomat that Beijing should refrain from releasing two Canadians imprisoned in the country — an allegation former governor general David Johnston deemed “false” in his special rapporteur’s report last month.

Dong — who resigned from the Liberal caucus to sit as an Independent MP earlier this year — has delivered a libel notice to Cooper, Global News and other staff at the media organization, claiming their reporting was “false, malicious, irresponsible, and defamatory.”

Like Cooper, Global News has defended its reporting on foreign interference.

During Tuesday’s committee meeting, Liberal MP Ryan Turnbull challenged Cooper for reporting what he described as a serious unproven accusation about Dong.

“How could you with any degree of journalistic integrity publish an article that is surely just based on unfounded allegations?” asked Turnbull. “Did you knowingly mislead Canadians?”

“The story stands, and I will not speak to editorial processes and legal procedures,” Cooper responded.

When pressed again by Liberal MP Ruby Sahota, Cooper stressed he does not believe he reported false information, and said Global’s journalism on foreign interference meets “the highest standards of public interest.”

Conservative MP Luc Berthold said Liberals on the committee appeared intent on discrediting Cooper’s journalism, and said much has been learned in the aftermath of his reporting — including the existence of documents Cooper cited, as well as confirmation that intelligence officials believe Beijing targeted MPs like Conservative Michael Chong.

Cooper later expressed support for the public inquiry Conservatives and other parties have demanded for months, stating it would “remove partisan bickering” from the debate and allow for a “deep, rigorous public study” of what happened in Canada and what can be learned from other countries dealing with the same issue.

He also stood by another story he published with Global, on intelligence alleging Beijing gave $250,000 to 11 candidates in the 2019 federal election campaign. Johnston’s report said intelligence shows China intended to finance seven Liberals and four Conservatives in that campaign, but that there was no evidence any of them received the money.

Cooper said Tuesday that he saw an intelligence report from January 2022 based on around 100 national security briefs that said China’s “Toronto consulate directed clandestine funding into an election interference network.”

Concerns about foreign interference, and whether Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s government has adequately addressed the issue, have dominated federal politics for months. Opposition parties continue to press for a judicial inquiry, something the Liberals resisted in favour of a process headed by Johnston. Rest at above Link.
 
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A journalist whose reporting helped fuel a political firestorm over alleged Chinese meddling in Canadian democracy defended his work before a committee of MPs on Tuesday and added his voice to opposition demands for Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to call a public inquiry.

Sam Cooper, who recently left Global News to start his own online publication, said he stands by his reporting with his former media organization in recent months — including stories that were questioned or contradicted by the government’s now-resigned special rapporteur on foreign interference. Cooper testified as the committee studies allegations of foreign interference in a rare instance of elected officials questioning a journalist about the accuracy of their reporting.

Pressed repeatedly by Liberal MPs, Cooper defended a Global News report from March that included allegations Toronto MP Han Dong told a Chinese diplomat that Beijing should refrain from releasing two Canadians imprisoned in the country — an allegation former governor general David Johnston deemed “false” in his special rapporteur’s report last month.

Dong — who resigned from the Liberal caucus to sit as an Independent MP earlier this year — has delivered a libel notice to Cooper, Global News and other staff at the media organization, claiming their reporting was “false, malicious, irresponsible, and defamatory.”

Like Cooper, Global News has defended its reporting on foreign interference.

During Tuesday’s committee meeting, Liberal MP Ryan Turnbull challenged Cooper for reporting what he described as a serious unproven accusation about Dong.

“How could you with any degree of journalistic integrity publish an article that is surely just based on unfounded allegations?” asked Turnbull. “Did you knowingly mislead Canadians?”

“The story stands, and I will not speak to editorial processes and legal procedures,” Cooper responded.

When pressed again by Liberal MP Ruby Sahota, Cooper stressed he does not believe he reported false information, and said Global’s journalism on foreign interference meets “the highest standards of public interest.”

Conservative MP Luc Berthold said Liberals on the committee appeared intent on discrediting Cooper’s journalism, and said much has been learned in the aftermath of his reporting — including the existence of documents Cooper cited, as well as confirmation that intelligence officials believe Beijing targeted MPs like Conservative Michael Chong.

Cooper later expressed support for the public inquiry Conservatives and other parties have demanded for months, stating it would “remove partisan bickering” from the debate and allow for a “deep, rigorous public study” of what happened in Canada and what can be learned from other countries dealing with the same issue.

He also stood by another story he published with Global, on intelligence alleging Beijing gave $250,000 to 11 candidates in the 2019 federal election campaign. Johnston’s report said intelligence shows China intended to finance seven Liberals and four Conservatives in that campaign, but that there was no evidence any of them received the money.

Cooper said Tuesday that he saw an intelligence report from January 2022 based on around 100 national security briefs that said China’s “Toronto consulate directed clandestine funding into an election interference network.”

Concerns about foreign interference, and whether Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s government has adequately addressed the issue, have dominated federal politics for months. Opposition parties continue to press for a judicial inquiry, something the Liberals resisted in favour of a process headed by Johnston. Rest at above Link.
Attack the messenger , the Liberal way .
 
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Attack the messenger , the Liberal way .
Well, still, no definitive word as to whether or not there will be a Public Inquiry, but the prime minister's top national security adviser says she expects the security official who leaked sensitive information to the media about attempted Chinese interference in Canadian politics — prompting months of controversy over foreign interference in Canadian elections — will be caught and punished.

(The House of Commons unanimously {=Liberals & NDP} approved a motion from Government House Leader Mark Holland Wednesday to adopt a handful of bills and government spending items by the end of the day. MPs later approved a motion to adjourn for summer at the end of the day)

Jody Thomas, the current Liberal National Security and Intelligence Advisor, states"It's incredibly disturbing on a number of levels. One, that they would be so unaware of what has been done. That, two, they would risk our national security in order to leak information and gain some notoriety …" she said.

"Three, [that they] leak parts of information that don't tell a complete story, that perhaps looks salacious and scandalous in a headline, but don't tell the complete story of what came before that piece of intelligence that was leaked and what's come after and what the analysis is and what's been done with it."

So, it’s bad that is was leaked causing embarrassment, but if leaked, more should have been leaked to cause less embarrassment? Ok…?

Asked whether the source encouraged a conversation about national security that Canadians needed to have, Thomas said she believes "there's no benefit to leaking. I will never concede there's a benefit."

The Liberals are embroiled in an extended controversy over their response to allegations of foreign interference. Canada's security agencies have acknowledged that foreign actors like China have sought to influence Canadian elections — but the Liberal government reviews have said Canada's 2019 and 2021 elections remained free and fair and the results were not changed by any interference. Opposition parties have been calling on the government to launch a public inquiry into the issue for months.
 

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Well, still, no definitive word as to whether or not there will be a Public Inquiry, but the prime minister's top national security adviser says she expects the security official who leaked sensitive information to the media about attempted Chinese interference in Canadian politics — prompting months of controversy over foreign interference in Canadian elections — will be caught and punished.

(The House of Commons unanimously {=Liberals & NDP} approved a motion from Government House Leader Mark Holland Wednesday to adopt a handful of bills and government spending items by the end of the day. MPs later approved a motion to adjourn for summer at the end of the day)

Jody Thomas, the current Liberal National Security and Intelligence Advisor, states"It's incredibly disturbing on a number of levels. One, that they would be so unaware of what has been done. That, two, they would risk our national security in order to leak information and gain some notoriety …" she said.

"Three, [that they] leak parts of information that don't tell a complete story, that perhaps looks salacious and scandalous in a headline, but don't tell the complete story of what came before that piece of intelligence that was leaked and what's come after and what the analysis is and what's been done with it."

So, it’s bad that is was leaked causing embarrassment, but if leaked, more should have been leaked to cause less embarrassment? Ok…?

Asked whether the source encouraged a conversation about national security that Canadians needed to have, Thomas said she believes "there's no benefit to leaking. I will never concede there's a benefit."

The Liberals are embroiled in an extended controversy over their response to allegations of foreign interference. Canada's security agencies have acknowledged that foreign actors like China have sought to influence Canadian elections — but the Liberal government reviews have said Canada's 2019 and 2021 elections remained free and fair and the results were not changed by any interference. Opposition parties have been calling on the government to launch a public inquiry into the issue for months.
As I said , attack the messenger . It would be funny if not so sad .
 

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Well, still, no definitive word as to whether or not there will be a Public Inquiry, but the prime minister's top national security adviser says she expects the security official who leaked sensitive information to the media about attempted Chinese interference in Canadian politics — prompting months of controversy over foreign interference in Canadian elections — will be caught and punished.

(The House of Commons unanimously {=Liberals & NDP} approved a motion from Government House Leader Mark Holland Wednesday to adopt a handful of bills and government spending items by the end of the day. MPs later approved a motion to adjourn for summer at the end of the day)

Jody Thomas, the current Liberal National Security and Intelligence Advisor, states"It's incredibly disturbing on a number of levels. One, that they would be so unaware of what has been done. That, two, they would risk our national security in order to leak information and gain some notoriety …" she said.

"Three, [that they] leak parts of information that don't tell a complete story, that perhaps looks salacious and scandalous in a headline, but don't tell the complete story of what came before that piece of intelligence that was leaked and what's come after and what the analysis is and what's been done with it."

So, it’s bad that is was leaked causing embarrassment, but if leaked, more should have been leaked to cause less embarrassment? Ok…?

Asked whether the source encouraged a conversation about national security that Canadians needed to have, Thomas said she believes "there's no benefit to leaking. I will never concede there's a benefit."

The Liberals are embroiled in an extended controversy over their response to allegations of foreign interference. Canada's security agencies have acknowledged that foreign actors like China have sought to influence Canadian elections — but the Liberal government reviews have said Canada's 2019 and 2021 elections remained free and fair and the results were not changed by any interference. Opposition parties have been calling on the government to launch a public inquiry into the issue for months.
She states the information doesn’t tell the whole story suggesting she knows the whole story . Wondering why Canadians are to intellectually deficient to understand .
 

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Sen. Victor Oh says Chinese Canadians need to fundraise to sue 'messy reporters'
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Published Jun 23, 2023 • Last updated 20 hours ago • 1 minute read

A Canadian senator says he wants Chinese Canadians to set up a national foundation that would focus on raising money to fund lawsuits against “messy reporters” and politicians who “try to smear” the community.


A video of Conservative Sen. Victor Oh making the remarks was uploaded to the social media platform WeChat earlier this month, showing him addressing a group at what was described as the Montreal Chinese Community United Centre.


The Canadian Press obtained the video, which shows Oh saying in Mandarin that “we need to raise money to cover costs for (people affected) by all of these unreasonable reporters who try to smear Chinese and discredit Chinese.”

The senator says “we need to take legal action to deal with the messy reporters, newspapers and politicians” and that a national foundation would also help support young people to get involved in politics, including through scholarships.

The comments were first reported in English by Found In Translation on Substack.


Oh was not made available to answer questions at an event he attended in Ottawa today and a spokesperson did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

In the video, Oh said those who “smear” the community have not accepted the findings in an initial report from former governor general David Johnston, whom Prime Minister Justin Trudeau appointed to investigate allegations of foreign interference in the past two federal elections.

Johnston’s report found that some media reporting around allegations that China meddled in the 2019 and 2021 elections lacked context.

It also acknowledged that some intelligence confirmed attempts by Chinese officials to gather information about Canadian parliamentarians. But Johnston said the intelligence he reviewed cannot not be shared publicly.

He announced earlier this month he would resign as special rapporteur, citing a politically charged atmosphere around his work.
 

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Justin Trudeau’s government continues to look like they are hiding something on China’s interference, refusing to answer questions from a targeted MP and from the media on who got the secret memo.

It’s part of a highly disturbing pattern that makes the Liberals look guilty.

Michael Chong asked the Trudeau government who received the briefing note on China targeting him and his family, and two departments refused to answer. An Order Paper Question, a very formal way MPs can ask the government questions, was submitted to three departments on May 5 with the results being tabled in the House late last week.
Chong asked the Privy Council Office, Global Affairs Canada and Public Safety about the memo, specifically, “who received it and on what date.”

The Privy Council Office – effectively the prime minister’s department – replied that the office had received the document on July 20, 2021, the day it was produced. However, they also indicated something that had already been reported publicly, “The report was included in the Acting National Security and Intelligence Advisor (NSIA) to the Prime Minister’s intelligence read package on Aug. 17, 2021.”

Acting NSIA David Morrison had said that he had been away and read the memo when he returned, but didn’t act on it or share the information with anyone else.

As for Global Affairs and Public Safety, they both said that the departments received the report on July 20, 2021, and circulated it the next day, but both departments declined to release any names.

Rest at link above, etc…but the below is interesting:

Despite asking the Privy Council Office and Public Safety for the tracking records, both replied that they couldn’t find anything.

“A thorough search was conducted, and Public Safety Canada was unable to locate any records responding to your request,” read the reply.

So, either the government has abandoned a decades-old policy for handling such documents, or they don’t want to release them because they would incriminate them. When you combine the denial of records with their refusal to answer Michael Chong’s questions, it makes the idea that they are hiding something all the more plausible.

More proof for why a public inquiry is needed if Canadians are to ever get at the truth.
 
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Justin Trudeau’s government continues to look like they are hiding something on China’s interference, refusing to answer questions from a targeted MP and from the media on who got the secret memo.

It’s part of a highly disturbing pattern that makes the Liberals look guilty.

Michael Chong asked the Trudeau government who received the briefing note on China targeting him and his family, and two departments refused to answer. An Order Paper Question, a very formal way MPs can ask the government questions, was submitted to three departments on May 5 with the results being tabled in the House late last week.
Chong asked the Privy Council Office, Global Affairs Canada and Public Safety about the memo, specifically, “who received it and on what date.”

The Privy Council Office – effectively the prime minister’s department – replied that the office had received the document on July 20, 2021, the day it was produced. However, they also indicated something that had already been reported publicly, “The report was included in the Acting National Security and Intelligence Advisor (NSIA) to the Prime Minister’s intelligence read package on Aug. 17, 2021.”

Acting NSIA David Morrison had said that he had been away and read the memo when he returned, but didn’t act on it or share the information with anyone else.

As for Global Affairs and Public Safety, they both said that the departments received the report on July 20, 2021, and circulated it the next day, but both departments declined to release any names.

Rest at link above, etc…but the below is interesting:

Despite asking the Privy Council Office and Public Safety for the tracking records, both replied that they couldn’t find anything.

“A thorough search was conducted, and Public Safety Canada was unable to locate any records responding to your request,” read the reply.

So, either the government has abandoned a decades-old policy for handling such documents, or they don’t want to release them because they would incriminate them. When you combine the denial of records with their refusal to answer Michael Chong’s questions, it makes the idea that they are hiding something all the more plausible.

More proof for why a public inquiry is needed if Canadians are to ever get at the truth.
Remember the never ending coverage of the Mike Duffey non scandal . Sure seems like a different Ottawa press gallery .
 

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David Johnston filed his final — and confidential — report on foreign interference to the prime minister on Monday, ending his contentious term as special rapporteur.

Johnston had announced his plans to resign earlier this month, saying the atmosphere around his work had become too partisan. He pledged to submit a final report to the government before the end of June.

(This Bed is Too Partisan, & This Bed is Not Partisan Enough, and then I quit ‘cuz the Opposition that’s suppose to question the questionable behaviour & questionable policies of Government questioned the questionable behaviour & questionable policies of Government)

Late Monday, he did just that, but the office of the independent special rapporteur said the document was a "supplement to the confidential annex" of his earlier report, meaning it will NOT be made public. Instead, a two-paragraph cover letter from Johnston to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was released.

All opposition party leaders (= the Majority of Parliament) called for a public inquiry (Repeatedly) into the issue, and Johnston was asked to report back by May 23 on whether that was the best option (?) for the Liberals.

In that initial report, Johnston concluded that a public inquiry would not be useful (to the Liberals) given the constraints of national security laws and the amount of classified information that will be dealt with. He instead planned to hold public hearings (&elected himself to run them ‘cuz Democracy, etc…) to “educate” Canadians about how foreign interference happens, and how to “manage” it.

Days after the report was made public, a majority of MPs passed a non-binding NDP motion calling on Johnston to step down due to perceived bias, with Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre repeatedly accusing him of being too close to Trudeau (and fresh off the Trudeau Foundation) to review his government's actions.

In his resignation letter on June 9, Johnston said his objective in leading the government's probe into alleged meddling by China was to help build “trust” in democratic institutions.

"I have concluded that, given the highly partisan atmosphere around my appointment and work, my ‘leadership has had the opposite effect," he wrote at the time.

"The government has received the Independent Special Rapporteur’s final report, which is classified, and would like to thank Mr. Johnston for his work on this important matter," the Privy Council Office said in a statement.

Opposition party leaders had been in negotiations last week to decide on terms for a “possible” public inquiry….which I’ve no idea how this government can further avoid beyond recess in Parliament for the summer, and then announcing an election in the fall…but time will tell…

Meanwhile, a June 7 letter from the chair of the National Security and Intelligence Review Agency — or NSIRA, as it's known — was made public on Monday, reminding the government that Johnston's report also called for it to disclose secret cabinet documents to the agency for its own review.

Since that time, the agency said the government provided it with a limited number of documents it originally withheld due to cabinet confidentiality.

The letter from NSIRA chair Marie Deschamps states that its review is distinct from Johnston's work and asks for all documents to be submitted without any redactions.

NSIRA has begun a review of intelligence on foreign interference in the 2019 and 2021 federal elections in response to media reports about Chinese meddling.

That review includes looking into the way intelligence was communicated across government departments and agencies.
 
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Action speaks louder than words, but not nearly as often.

Mark Twain’s warning should be borne in mind by the opposition parties as they continue to negotiate with the government over a public inquiry into foreign interference in Canadian elections.

The Liberals say they are open to a public inquiry, after the resignation of special rapporteur David Johnston.

The government’s fixer, Dominic LeBlanc, has been drafted in to retrieve another Charlie Foxtrot situation and says he has asked the opposition parties to come up with potential names to lead an inquiry and its terms of reference.

Those talks are said to be close to completion, with the government having accepted in principle that a public inquiry is the only way forward.

But the opposition should be en garde. For a government that says it has nothing to hide, this government is acting as if it absolutely has something to hide.

When Justin Trudeau announced his intention to appoint a special rapporteur in late March, he also asked two (semi) independent committees to conduct their own investigations — the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians (NSICOP) and the National Security and Intelligence Review Agency (NSIRA).

The former is a committee of parliamentarians; the latter a panel of experts, mainly law professors. Both are nominally independent but report to the prime minister and the relevant ministers, rather than to Parliament. Both are more focused on national security accountability and compliance by government departments than on what the Chinese are up to in Canada.

Yet, both have a high level of security clearance and could provide useful information to Canadians, if given the chance.

But this is the point where people should ignore Trudeau’s honeyed words and focus on what his government is actually doing.

When he asked the two committees to look into foreign interference, he promised transparent investigations. He said he spoke to the chairs of NSICOP (David McGuinty) and NSIRA (Marie Deschamps) and “underscored that Canadians need to have faith in their institutions and deserve answers and transparency.”

Both chairs have been pushing the government to allow their committees to read the same confidential documents that Johnston reviewed to write his first report in May.

The government has jealously guarded documents deemed to be “cabinet confidences” — namely, the record of cabinet discussions that in the Westminster system are deemed top secret.

Last fall, NSICOP wrote to the prime minister complaining that its previous investigations have been hamstrung by lack of access to cabinet documents.

McGuinty told the Senate defence committee that an overhaul of the legislation governing his committee is needed to allow it unfettered access if it is to fulfill its mandate.

But it was only after Johnston’s first report landed in late May, and the special rapporteur recommended that all documents provided to him also be made available to the two committees, that the government agreed to waive the ban on cabinet documents.

The reluctance to be “open by default,” as per the Liberal election promise, is apparent in the very unusual move taken by NSIRA chair Marie Deschamps this week. She wrote to the prime minister, complaining that only a “limited number of documents” have been released to her panel.

“In order to ensure the integrity of our review and not limit or influence our evidence base, NSIRA must have access to all documents contained in any class of documents provided, rather than a subset of those documents,” she wrote.

From the outset, Trudeau and his ministers have emphasized how much Canadians deserve answers and transparency.

Yet, from day one, the government has appeared to be running interference, thereby stoking suspicions about what it is hiding.

Cabinet should be free to deliberate in boisterous fashion, and in secret. As I wrote last week, the recommendation of a parliamentary committee to open cabinet discussions to access-to-information requests is ill-advised.

But all members of these two committees are already sworn to secrecy. It seems hard to believe the government is concerned that a panel of eminent judges, lawyers and public servants is going to blab about cabinet secrets on the cocktail party circuit. So, what doesn’t it want them to know, and why?

The apparent attempts to frustrate the intelligence review agency are yet further proof, if any were required, that a public inquiry is the only way to win back the trust of Canadians.
 
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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says the federal government won't be announcing any next steps on probing foreign interference until the Liberals get "full buy-in" from the opposition parties, to avoid the process devolving as it did under former special rapporteur David Johnston???

Trudeau isn’t saying Public Inquiry, so what is he asking for????

"As we put forward proposals to the other parties on how we can move forward to restore Canadians' confidence in our abilities to fight foreign interference, we will ensure before we launch any next process, that there is full buy-in by the other parties on how it will be done, and who will do it," Trudeau told reporters on Wednesday???

There appeared to be momentum leading towards an imminent announcement of a “potential” (?) inquiry, or other unspecified new process, when the House of Commons adjourned for the summer last week. But, since then there has been no news on whether it could be a full public inquiry after all, who could lead it, or what kind of timeline would be set on this investigation of the issue.

Expressing that the issue of foreign interference requires "responsible leadership and a serious approach" Trudeau said the way the entire Johnston chapter unfolded between March and June is the reason the Liberals won't be making any further moves towards a new probe until all parties are on-side with whatever the next steps are ??? Trudeau CREATED this Rapporteur mess with another former Trudeau Foundation member….seriously…

"We saw the excessive partisanship and toxicity that was aimed at, and rendered it impossible for our esteemed former governor general David Johnson to actually be able to continue his work," Trudeau said. Holy White-Wash & Smoke Screen simultaneously Batpeople!!!

While the prime minister is in pursuit of all-party signoff on a new approach to examine foreign interference in Canadian elections past and potential further mechanisms needed to be better secure future votes from "ongoing" meddling attempts, the opposition parties continue to say their line in the sand is a public inquiry. That sounds like a full buy in from the opposition parties…so Trudeau is fishing for something else here….

Just prior to Parliament breaking, Bloc Quebecois Leader Yves-Francois Blanchet had signalled that an announcement was imminent, while NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh told CTV News Channel's Power Play that he was "cautiously optimistic" but they hadn’t yet gotten a "clear commitment" from the government on a full public inquiry with full powers.

Meanwhile, Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre has made it clear, both in the House and in writing to LeBlanc that his "demands" are for Trudeau to agree to call an independent inquiry under the Inquiries Act, and then his party would provide a shortlist of names to lead it as well as a proposed mandate and terms of reference.

(Elizabeth May is someone who exists and has access to Parliament)
 

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…& none of those are a Full Public Inquiry with Full Subpoena Powers that ALL the Opposition Parties (maybe not Elizabeth May as nobody has cared enough to mention her lately except me) are ALL requiring as their Full Buy In…except the Governing Liberals themselves?

Rapporteur as it was used by Trudeau for Johnston….The closest of your examples above I guess would be taleteller as in ‘Tall Tale Teller’ due to lack of access to information or complete bias or not, wanting to incriminate himself due to his time on the Trudeau Foundation during the Chinese Cheques shenanigans….Or some combination of the above.
 

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Hmmmm. Rapporteur in English...

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Maybe the best English translation of Rapporteur as Trudeau employed the term with Johnston would be a combination of the words above.

Perhaps “Protracted Tall Tale Teller” to get the Liberals through the Spring until Parliament recessed for the Summer, so that summertime campaigning can be done and the Liberals can throw Jagmeet & the NDP under the bus with the announcement of a Fall Election before this can be dragged out and dusted off for the Fall sitting of Parliament?
 

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Maybe the best English translation of Rapporteur as Trudeau employed the term with Johnston would be a combination of the words above.

Perhaps “Protracted Tall Tale Teller” to get the Liberals through the Spring until Parliament recessed for the Summer, so that summertime campaigning can be done and the Liberals can throw Jagmeet & the NDP under the bus with the announcement of a Fall Election before this can be dragged out and dusted off for the Fall sitting of Parliament?
Sounds aboot right to me.
 
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While he’s making it sound like this is his noble idea, it’s been a demand of the opposition for months now.

“As we put forward proposals to the other parties on how we can move forward to restore Canadians’ confidence in our abilities to fight foreign interference, we will ensure before we launch any next process, that there is full buy-in by the other parties on how it will be done, and who will do it,” Trudeau said Wednesday in Mississauga.

Note that Trudeau didn’t commit to a public inquiry — he’s still talking about a “next process” — but the discussions happening in Ottawa, with good faith from all parties, are said to be heading in the direction of a full inquiry. Which is why it was strange for Trudeau to not only waiver on the issue of an inquiry but attack the opposition parties as talks are ongoing.

Trudeau said he wanted buy-in from the other parties to ensure whatever comes next doesn’t get bogged down in toxic bickering. “We saw the excessive partisanship and toxicity that was aimed at and rendered it impossible for our esteemed former governor general David Johnson to actually be able to continue his work,” Trudeau said.

Here’s a hint for the PM: If he had listened to the opposition parties before appointing Johnston to be his special rapporteur, there would have been no toxic environment. Before Trudeau made that appointment, the Conservatives, NDP and Bloc had all called for an inquiry headed up by someone all parties could agree on.

Instead of going that route, Trudeau ignored the other parties and appointed a man that the other three parties rightly felt was too close to Trudeau and his party. It’s like he forgot he leads a minority government and that he needs to work cooperatively with the opposition.

Now that he’s been reminded of that inconvenient fact, he’s taken a different tone.

“We are going to be making sure that we have consensus around the path forward, around the framework, around the individual or individuals we will put in charge of the next steps, before we actually announce anything,” Trudeau said.

Could’a just done that from the beginning, but….

One stumbling block that hopefully will be overcome is the Trudeau government’s desire for the opposition parties to put forward a list of names before the government announces next steps. Pierre Poilievre and the Conservatives in particular are opposed to offering a list of names until an inquiry is actually announced.

Poilievre and those around him are concerned that if they provide a list of names of people they would support to investigate China’s interference before an inquiry is called, that the government would simply choose one of those names to become the next special rapporteur and bypass a full inquiry.

That’s a minor detail in the grand scheme of things, and one that the parties should be able to iron out in their discussions.

The talks among the parties will also need to iron out the scope of any inquiry, with the NDP/Liberals (in their non-coalition coalition that’s definitely not a coalition) having indicated they want any investigation to look at interference by a variety of countries, not just China, and over a wider time frame than the last few years.

Those are terms Poilievre has said he would support if it results in an inquiry being called.

Let’s hope all sides come to an agreement in the near future and get to the truth about China’s attacks on our democracy.