April Fools!! Here's your Carbon Tax F#ckers!!!

[petros]

Im saying it doesnt pay to cross border shop anymore unless you like 20kg of canned soup, cookies and cereal. No more milk.

Its the Metro Van gas tax more than carbon tax that drove cross border gas. As pointed out its the same price in Regina and Calgary as in WA. Both SK and AB suffer from carbon tax. If SK had no carbon tax we'd be cheaper than WA even with exchange. Its not worth the savings to drive from north of the Fraser and back.

Its almost an hour from Vancouver if the border is light. 2-3 if heavy border traffic.

When Trans Mtn X is(if) finished PADDs 4 and 5 will have steady supply driving prices down at Puget Sound refineries and the entire west coast From Alaska to San Diego. Zero OPEC.

 

[Ron in Regina]

Im saying it doesnt pay to cross border shop anymore unless you like 20kg of canned soup, cookies and cereal. No more milk.

Its the Metro Van gas tax more than carbon tax that drove cross border gas. As pointed out its the same price in Regina and Calgary as in WA. Both SK and AB suffer from carbon tax. If SK had no carbon tax we'd be cheaper than WA even with exchange. Its not worth the savings to drive from north of the Fraser and back.

Well, Thankfully there’s still an $800 personal exemption when you’re in the US for 48 hours (like most international truck drivers) and we have about 25 drivers doing this every week at least once.

(If I need a set a tires for my Wife-types SUV they have one guy bring up two tires and another guy bring up two tires, etc…)

With respect it’s Saskatchewan‘s provincial fuel tax rate of $.15 per litre, Every jurisdiction has its own tax rate at various rates…(IFTA) that we have to balance the kilometres driven in each jurisdiction versus the amount of fuel purchased in each jurisdiction….& do you wanna guess at what compensation there is between buying Canadian fuel with its extra carbon tax charged vs American fuel with no carbon tax charged?? (Hint is that it’s not making Canadian Fuel more competitive against American Fuel but that’s not Trudeau’s goal I’m assuming)

 

[pgs]

Im saying it doesnt pay to cross border shop anymore unless you like 20kg of canned soup, cookies and cereal. No more milk.

Its the Metro Van gas tax more than carbon tax that drove cross border gas. As pointed out its the same price in Regina and Calgary as in WA. Both SK and AB suffer from carbon tax. If SK had no carbon tax we'd be cheaper than WA even with exchange. Its not worth the savings to drive from north of the Fraser and back.

Its almost an hour from Vancouver if the border is light. 2-3 if heavy border traffic.

When Trans Mtn X is(if) finished PADDs 4 and 5 will have steady supply driving prices down at Puget Sound refineries and the entire west coast From Alaska to San Diego. Zero OPEC.

B.C.’s lowest gas prices that I have lately paid are in the lower mainland outside of Vancouve4 .

 

[pgs]

Im saying it doesnt pay to cross border shop anymore unless you like 20kg of canned soup, cookies and cereal. No more milk.

Its the Metro Van gas tax more than carbon tax that drove cross border gas. As pointed out its the same price in Regina and Calgary as in WA. Both SK and AB suffer from carbon tax. If SK had no carbon tax we'd be cheaper than WA even with exchange. Its not worth the savings to drive from north of the Fraser and back.

Its almost an hour from Vancouver if the border is light. 2-3 if heavy border traffic.

When Trans Mtn X is(if) finished PADDs 4 and 5 will have steady supply driving prices down at Puget Sound refineries and the entire west coast From Alaska to San Diego. Zero OPEC.

Cheese and milk were always popular items .

 

[petros]

B.C.’s lowest gas prices that I have lately paid are in the lower mainland outside of Vancouve4 .

Silverdale.

 

[petros]

Cheese and milk were always popular items .

Im guilty of it. From Newton it wasnt far.

 

[pgs]

Silverdale.

169.9 whenI last went by consistent into Mission some 171,9

Im guilty of it. From Newton it wasnt far.

Routen touten Newton . Poor you .

 

[petros]

169.9 whenI last went by consistent into Mission some 171,9

Routen touten Newton . Poor you .

No border, no exchange, no hassle.


I was in Newton but across the street was Guildford. It was a long distance phone call to the neighbours. 88 x 144 I think. Green Timbers

 

[Taxslave2]

Indeed but we are all in the same gasoline market with a set wholesale price. Taxes set the varying retail prices.

In Vancouver, drivers pay 56 cents per litre in taxes while drivers in Victoria pay 47 cents per litre, according to the B.C. Utilities Commission. Drivers in the rest of B.C. pay 43 cents in taxes per litre of gasoline.May 10, 2022
https://vancouversun.com › news

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TBF someone has to finance Hongcouver’s fancy rapid transit. Might as well be the people that never use it.

 

[petros]

TBF someone has to finance Hongcouver’s fancy rapid transit. Might as well be the people that never use it.

TransLink gets piles of funding from province and feds.

 

[Taxslave2]

Actually, I was asking about the benefit of a carbon tax in a jurisdiction bordering a neighbouring jurisdiction that doesn’t charge a carbon tax. The carbon tax doesn’t just affect fuels, but everything that is shipped using fuels.

You can consider the jurisdiction as provinces bordering states, or as Canada bordering the United States. Canada is cutting off its nose to spite its face with this nonsense.

Well, only people in the lower mainland and lower Okanogan have the option of going to the US for food and fuel. For the rest of us it is too far or ferries are involved, making it uneconomical to shop in the US. We are stuck with whatever taxes they chose to pile on us.

 

[Taxslave2]

TransLink gets piles of funding from province and feds.

Still a lot of that comes from taxpayers that don’t use transit. Make those communities around the province that don’t even have transit chip in for cheap rides in Vancouver.

 

[pgs]

Still a lot of that comes from taxpayers that don’t use transit. Make those communities around the province that don’t even have transit chip in for cheap rides in Vancouver.

I used the Harris free ferry once when younger .

 

[pgs]

Harrop .

 

[Ron in Regina]

Well, only people in the lower mainland and lower Okanogan have the option of going to the US for food and fuel. For the rest of us it is too far or ferries are involved, making it uneconomical to shop in the US. We are stuck with whatever taxes they chose to pile on us.

Home to approximately 3.05 million people as of the 2021 Canadian census, the Lower Mainland contains sixteen of the province's 30 most populous municipalities and approximately 60% of the province's total population.

Lower Mainland - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

So only 50%+ of BC’s population?

 

[petros]

Still a lot of that comes from taxpayers that don’t use transit. Make those communities around the province that don’t even have transit chip in for cheap rides in Vancouver.

Take the bus to Parksville and back. Get your.use in.

 

[petros]

Well, only people in the lower mainland and lower Okanogan have the option of going to the US for food and fuel.

Its not qorth it. You cant bring back any real food any longer unless you really like Boo Berry cereal and other processed garbage.

 

[Ron in Regina]

“The moment you decide to decarbonize the economy in a relatively short period of time — and we’re talking here less than 10 years to significantly reduce greenhouse gas emissions — it’s clear that there is going to be a cost,” said Giroux in an interview with the National Post.

As the carbon pricing increases, lower income households should continue to receive rebates, but middle-class and upper-class households should be expecting to pay hundreds, if not thousands according to the PBO, depending on their carbon consumption.

'There is going to be a cost': Federal carbon pricing to generate 'net loss' for most households, PBO finds — National Post

As the pricing increases, lower income households should continue to receive rebates, but middle- and upper-class households should be expecting to pay hundreds, if not thousands

apple.news

The latest findings from the Parliamentary Budget Officer are fuelling arguments that the federal price on carbon is an economic burden for families — and could only increase in years to come.

According to a report released on Thursday, PBO Yves Giroux concluded that most households in Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba and Ontario will see a “net loss” resulting from federal carbon pricing in 2030. By then, the carbon levy will have increased to reach $170 a tonne.

 

[Ron in Regina]

People from Vancouver weren’t popping over to Saskatchewan to fill their tanks and their cupboards…. because Saskatchewan and Vancouver were not separated by an imaginary political line. Washington state and British Columbia are side-by-side.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSRN_sPQLB0

Indeed but we are all in the same gasoline market with a set wholesale price. Taxes set the varying retail prices.

In Vancouver, drivers pay 56 cents per litre in taxes while drivers in Victoria pay 47 cents per litre, according to the B.C. Utilities Commission. Drivers in the rest of B.C. pay 43 cents in taxes per litre of gasoline.May 10, 2022
https://vancouversun.com › news

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I hear you. The taxes are the big difference. Trudeau can force the various provinces to impose carbon taxes upon themselves or he’ll impose it for them ‘for their own good’ making them Financially uncompetitive with neighbouring & physically connected jurisdictions.

(What carbon taxes or cap & trade schemes have been imposed upon Washington or Idaho or Montana or North Dakota, etc… by Trudeau or Biden or the UN or the WEF or Satan or any other entity so far?)

OTTAWA – With the long-awaited passage last month of U.S. President Joe Biden’s climate legislation, America now has a plan environmentalists say will significantly reduce emissions, vaulting the U.S. from a laggard to a leader on climate change.

But unlike Canada’s approach, Biden’s plan has no carbon tax, focusing instead on tax incentives to spur investments in renewable energy, incentives Canada may soon find itself under pressure to match to stay competitive.

Biden's climate plan earns green cred while avoiding Canada-style carbon taxes — National Post

Biden's plan offers a tax-rebate of up to US$7,500 for people who buy electric vehicles. The Liberals have a similar program but the credit tops out at $5,000

apple.news

Canada’s carbon tax is set to continually rise over the next decade until it reaches $170 per tonne in 2030. Hornung said the industry needs to understand what happens after that, and says there are loopholes that still need to be closed for it to really succeed.

“Taking steps to make carbon pricing more stringent in the electricity sector can help drive more investment in renewable energy, providing clarity on the future of carbon pricing after 2030 drives more investment in renewable energy,” he said.

Hornung said every country is different and Canada doesn’t have to match the U.S. approach exactly, but many renewable firms conduct business globally and the new incentives will draw investment???

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

People from Vancouver weren’t popping over to Saskatchewan to fill their tanks and their cupboards…. because Saskatchewan and Vancouver were not separated by an imaginary political line. Washington state and British Columbia are side-by-side.

True. They're separated by about 500 miles (800km) as the SR-71 flies. Kinda defeats the purpose, don't it?

"I spent $300 in gas getting to Saskatchewan and back, but I saved 40 bucks on gas and groceries!"

Now THAT's the kind of thinking that made Canada great!