A Rational Conversation about Climate Change
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What of 'greenhouse gases' and who, exactly has determined that this is negative?.. For that matter, who has determined that carbon is bad (keeping in mind that we are a carbon-based life form)?
Murder ladders
I haven't mentioned carbon.
I have removed it as a suspect.
What explains the current warming trend?
Is that an answer to "where does 1951-80 sit in scale to the past 5000 years?"
Well? Where does it sit with the 5000 year average?
I'm not sure of the average.
It's risen 4-7 degrees over the last 5000 years and about 1 degree in the last century.
I am stating that the 'interested parties' are the same ones that are attempting to dictate the conversation and the metrics relative measuring/proving their preconceived ideas.
Considering that the Earth has been in a constant state of flux/change, exactly what is global warming, oops, I mean climate change, errr, Climate Crisis, ummm, Climate Emergency?
Do you see the trend here?
Still doesn't explain recent warming.
When did they start calling it climate change?
Can warming cause the climate to change?
How many times do I have to provide my answer that this is an expression of the natural cycles?
... And I don't give a flying fukk how recent you want to narrow down a window of an exclusive period of time that serves ONLY to highlight a skewed perspective.
From 2016?
That being the warmest this century.
Overall solar irradiance has levelled off since the late seventies.
I would expect some fluctuations with GSM with a high in 2014 which was a bit cooler (odd) to a low this year.
Let's see what happens.
You're asking loaded questions based on the assumptions forwarded by interest groups... I honestly don't know how else to answer.
I think that we can agree that the Earth's climate is a hugely complex system affected by variables inside our atmosphere, deep within the Earth and outside our terrestrial atmosphere... Assuming that you would agree with this ideal, you can understand how it is ridiculous to believe that it is possible to boil-down this complex system(s) into one or two simple cause/effect relationships.
Can we agree on this?
16-20 is flatline again.
Maybe you need to look in your fridge for the answer to the Modern Warming Period.
It is in there.
I don't expect it to rise every year because it hasn't and won't in the future.
The trend line shows consistent warming and that's with overall lower solar irradiance.
Nope. Example:
One glass of orange juice (200 ml) takes about 45 gallons (170 liters) of water which becomes vapour through transpiration.
One cotton shirt:
650 gallons (2,495 liters/250 grams shirt)
Of this total water volume, 45% is irrigation water consumed (evaporated) by the cotton plant; 41% is rainwater evaporated from the cotton field during the growing period; and 14% is water required to dilute the wastewater flows that result from the use of fertilizers in the field and the use of chemicals in the textile industry.
One glass of orange juice (200 ml) takes about 45 gallons (170 liters) of water which becomes vapour through transpiration.
One cotton shirt:
650 gallons (2,495 liters/250 grams shirt)
Of this total water volume, 45% is irrigation water consumed (evaporated) by the cotton plant; 41% is rainwater evaporated from the cotton field during the growing period; and 14% is water required to dilute the wastewater flows that result from the use of fertilizers in the field and the use of chemicals in the textile industry.