Gun Control is Completely Useless.
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Hymie, how do you dream up this shit?
PS, Even if they banned and confiscated every gun in Canada and managed to plug the border, how would you stop me from machining my own?
Hell, they could even be made scale to scale to use .22 long.
With one of these
m
I could scale one of these
To fit these
Which would burn through 4 of these in a minute.
Are you going to ban machining equipment, bar stock and men and women with novice level proficiency?
How many ARs could I crank out in a day with a CNC mill and lathe?
PS, Even if they banned and confiscated every gun in Canada and managed to plug the border, how would you stop me from machining my own?
Hell, they could even be made scale to scale to use .22 long.
With one of these
I could scale one of these
To fit these
Which would burn through 4 of these in a minute.
Are you going to ban machining equipment, bar stock and men and women with novice level proficiency?
How many ARs could I crank out in a day with a CNC mill and lathe?
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Hymie, how do you dream up this shit?
PS, Even if they banned and confiscated every gun in Canada and managed to plug the border, how would you stop me from machining my own?
Hell, they could even be made scale to scale to use .22 long.
With one of these
m
I could scale one of these
To fit these
Which would burn through 4 of these in a minute.
Are you going to ban machining equipment, bar stock and men and women with novice level proficiency?
How many ARs could I crank out in a day with a CNC mill and lathe?
How could you achieve that level of stupid to want to do this?
Even if I were to agree with you, I don't see how your comment negates his comment. Care to explain?
LILLEY: Premiers tee off on Trudeau's gun ban
Brian Lilley
Published: May 2, 2020
Several of Canada’s premiers aren’t reacting well to the federal government’s gun ban announcement, saying it doesn’t do anything to combat gun crime and the vast money being promised by the Trudeau government could have been better spent elsewhere.
“I’ve made it my mission to target the thugs and the low-lifes that are out there terrorizing innocent people,” Ontario Premier Doug Ford said on Saturday. “As law enforcement experts have highlighted time and time again, the only way to truly tackle gun violence is to crack down on the illegal guns being smuggled in daily at our borders.”
Ford was clearly frustrated with the Trudeau government’s plan to spend $600 million or more to purchase guns that were made illegal by a cabinet decree on Friday and will be purchased by the government over the next two years. He said it made no sense, a sentiment shared by Alberta Premier Jason Kenney.
“Ottawa is singling out law-abiding Canadians who purchased their property legally, have owned these items safely for years, and who have committed no crimes,” Kenney said in a statement.
“We know that the overwhelming majority of firearms used criminally in Canada are smuggled in illegally from the United States. Instead of addressing this, Ottawa will instead spend vast sums of money to criminalize law-abiding Canadians. That money would be far better used to pursue the smugglers and drug gangs that plague our society,” added Kenney.
Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe joined the chorus of disappointment.
“I am extremely disappointed by (Friday’s) announcement by the federal government of a firearms ban that only serves to penalize law-abiding gun owners,” Moe said.
The Trudeau government previously announced $327 million over five years to combat guns and gangs with some of that money going to provincial or municipal programs while other funding goes towards national programs.
The decision to spend $600 million to pay legal and licenced gun owners to hand over their rifles — rifles never used in crimes — means that the Trudeau government has decided to spend almost double on disarming law-abiding gun owners as they will combatting the real problem of guns and gangs.
As for the border, the feds are only promising $86 million over five years, or $17 million a year, to fight back at what every police chief in Canada will tell you is the No. 1 source of crime guns.
The other problem with Trudeau’s actions is that he has banned hundreds of rifles never used in a crime in Canada but has left handguns alone. The guns favoured by criminals are smuggled American handguns, preferably stripped of serial numbers.
It’s easier to hide a small pistol than an AR-15.
None of this matters to the prime minister, he made it clear with his language and actions that he wants to be seen doing something – whether it helps or not.
At his announcement Trudeau referred to the rifles being banned time and again as “military grade assault weapons.” It’s an invented term that has no legal definition.
Also, most of the guns being banned are not and have never been military guns, other than the several guns the Trudeau Liberals put on the list that were already banned for civilian use.
Did I mention that they also banned already illegal rocket launchers plus listed a website and a Facebook chat group on the list of banned guns? The whole thing was clearly put together by people without a clue.
Ford said he’d be happy to partner up with the Trudeau government to stop gun smuggling and tighten bail and sentencing conditions for those using guns for crime but scoffed at the idea that gun crime will be lowered as a result of this.
“I don’t think it’s going to go down in Toronto based on taking guns away from legal gun owners,” Ford said.
https://torontosun.com/opinion/colu...VLPSg8ziSM5fD8V6hT9ckZiOeE#Echobox=1588451801
Brian Lilley
Published: May 2, 2020
Several of Canada’s premiers aren’t reacting well to the federal government’s gun ban announcement, saying it doesn’t do anything to combat gun crime and the vast money being promised by the Trudeau government could have been better spent elsewhere.
“I’ve made it my mission to target the thugs and the low-lifes that are out there terrorizing innocent people,” Ontario Premier Doug Ford said on Saturday. “As law enforcement experts have highlighted time and time again, the only way to truly tackle gun violence is to crack down on the illegal guns being smuggled in daily at our borders.”
Ford was clearly frustrated with the Trudeau government’s plan to spend $600 million or more to purchase guns that were made illegal by a cabinet decree on Friday and will be purchased by the government over the next two years. He said it made no sense, a sentiment shared by Alberta Premier Jason Kenney.
“Ottawa is singling out law-abiding Canadians who purchased their property legally, have owned these items safely for years, and who have committed no crimes,” Kenney said in a statement.
“We know that the overwhelming majority of firearms used criminally in Canada are smuggled in illegally from the United States. Instead of addressing this, Ottawa will instead spend vast sums of money to criminalize law-abiding Canadians. That money would be far better used to pursue the smugglers and drug gangs that plague our society,” added Kenney.
Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe joined the chorus of disappointment.
“I am extremely disappointed by (Friday’s) announcement by the federal government of a firearms ban that only serves to penalize law-abiding gun owners,” Moe said.
The Trudeau government previously announced $327 million over five years to combat guns and gangs with some of that money going to provincial or municipal programs while other funding goes towards national programs.
The decision to spend $600 million to pay legal and licenced gun owners to hand over their rifles — rifles never used in crimes — means that the Trudeau government has decided to spend almost double on disarming law-abiding gun owners as they will combatting the real problem of guns and gangs.
As for the border, the feds are only promising $86 million over five years, or $17 million a year, to fight back at what every police chief in Canada will tell you is the No. 1 source of crime guns.
The other problem with Trudeau’s actions is that he has banned hundreds of rifles never used in a crime in Canada but has left handguns alone. The guns favoured by criminals are smuggled American handguns, preferably stripped of serial numbers.
It’s easier to hide a small pistol than an AR-15.
None of this matters to the prime minister, he made it clear with his language and actions that he wants to be seen doing something – whether it helps or not.
At his announcement Trudeau referred to the rifles being banned time and again as “military grade assault weapons.” It’s an invented term that has no legal definition.
Also, most of the guns being banned are not and have never been military guns, other than the several guns the Trudeau Liberals put on the list that were already banned for civilian use.
Did I mention that they also banned already illegal rocket launchers plus listed a website and a Facebook chat group on the list of banned guns? The whole thing was clearly put together by people without a clue.
Ford said he’d be happy to partner up with the Trudeau government to stop gun smuggling and tighten bail and sentencing conditions for those using guns for crime but scoffed at the idea that gun crime will be lowered as a result of this.
“I don’t think it’s going to go down in Toronto based on taking guns away from legal gun owners,” Ford said.
https://torontosun.com/opinion/colu...VLPSg8ziSM5fD8V6hT9ckZiOeE#Echobox=1588451801
https://www.scribd.com/document/459370005/Federal-government-banning-military-style-guns#from_embed
Might as well post this here too.
This is the list of all the precious precious gun that are banned.
If you gun is on this list? It's banned.
If your gun is not on this list? It isn't banned.
That is exactly how difficult it is to figure out what has been incluuded in the ban.
Might as well post this here too.
This is the list of all the precious precious gun that are banned.
If you gun is on this list? It's banned.
If your gun is not on this list? It isn't banned.
That is exactly how difficult it is to figure out what has been incluuded in the ban.
We all know what's included, including web sites and locksmiths,,......
What you've been asked is why. Why the ar15 and why the mini14 ranch.
Define assault weapon.
He's just parroting what trudea said, without a clue as to what he's talking about!
Of course he is, anything else would require an independent brain, something he is obviously lacking.
Because the question is ridiculous.
What difference does it make?
The whole idea that you can side step a weapons ban by making a small alteration in a weapon to make it slightly different than a certain definition is no longer relevant.
They have adressed that very issue at length during the announcement and if you had the common sense to listen to what they said you would not be wasting everyone's time.
What difference does it make?
The whole idea that you can side step a weapons ban by making a small alteration in a weapon to make it slightly different than a certain definition is no longer relevant.
They have adressed that very issue at length during the announcement and if you had the common sense to listen to what they said you would not be wasting everyone's time.
Ok, then let's just concentrate on why websites and locksmiths are on the list of banned weapons.
Bill Blair and Justin Trudeau are telling Canadians they are only banning "high powered" centrefire semi-automatic firearms that are not appropriate for hunting or sport shooting. The truth is the ban includes single shot shotguns, bolt-action rifles, .22 rimfire rifles, hunting rifles and even cannons. Apparently, this is what Government considers "military grade weapons".