Gun Control is Completely Useless.
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Yeah, saw that. Just figured there wouldn't be any point in showing HarperCons to be a liar (one of his more appealing characteristics). Anybody that don't know it already is awa' wit' the fairies.
HarperCON tells a LIE!
The fact is that Canada has a SLIGHTLY more sane population than United States - AT THIS TIME!
The ugly reality is that Canada follows United States in all social trends - its just that we are about 20 years behind!
Toronto Star produced articles on this stuff about guns and gangs in schools - with various experts pointing out how that issue
would be growing into a SERIOUS MENACE in places like Toronto - and now we see the REALITY!
The horror of MASS SHOOTINGS will be coming here in future with increasing frequency!
And the ONLY PROTECTION we have against such mass execution ARE THINGS LIE-berals REFUSE TO ALLOW!
LIE-berals COULD tighten the border and deter gun smuggling - but THEY DONT WANT TO - as they have BETTER THINGS
to do with OUR MONEY than protect us from crazy people and criminals!
There is AMPLE EVIDENCE that Mohawks smuggle all manner of stuff across their reserve that straddles the Quebec border with
United States! How esle would Mohawks have obtained the weapons they needed to rip open Cdn army armoured personnel carriers
during the OKA CRISIS! And we KNOW that recently a Mohawk woman was arrested for smuggling illegals from Canada
into United States! But LIE-berals ARE AFRAID to act against Mohawk criminals for fear of losing native votes!
It WOULD ALSO HELP if LIE-berals would be more aggressive in rounding up and treating crazy people!
But that also would cost TO MUCH LIE-beral GRAVY - so it wont happen either!
In related news - LIE-berals think it is a violation of the rights of crazy people to force treatment on them - with the added issue
that LIE-berals are AFRAID of losing votes from radical civil rights KOOKS and crazy people who are already traumatized
by the stigma of carrying a mental illness and want to bury their heads in the sand till the problem GOES AWAY!
The ugly reality is that Canada follows United States in all social trends - its just that we are about 20 years behind!
Does that mean we have 20 more years of bad government before we dump the leftards?
Does that mean we have 20 more years of bad government before we dump the leftards?
Maybe we should give him the benefit of the doubt.
He might have misspoken, he may have mixed up the USA and Venezuela, the socialist paradise with 10 times the US murder rate, and no legal guns in civilian hands.
On second thought.....naw.
Probably the tator tot wants to beat Cretins record as Canada’s longest serving PM .
Chris Selley: If Liberals treated gun control like coronavirus, they wouldn't hassle hunters and farmers
He wants everyone in Ontario to get covid19.
So his stupidity is actually not his worst trait.
‘Pandemic of violence’: Calls mount for recognition of misogyny in Nova Scotia shooting
Emerald Bensadoun
1 day ago
A man pays his respects at a roadside memorial in Portapique, N.S. on Thursday, April 23, 2020. RCMP say at least 22 people are dead after a man who at one point wore a police uniform and drove a mock-up cruiser, went on a murder rampage in Portapique and several other Nova Scotia communities. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Andrew Vaughan A week has gone by since the deadliest shooting in Canadian history, and calls are mounting for acknowledgment of the gender-based violence that occurred as part of the Nova Scotia gunman’s rampage.
The RCMP released a detailed account on the attack on Friday, saying that on the night of April 18, the shooter assaulted someone "who was known to him." The public was told that the person escaped and hid in the woods. And they were told that this assault was a possible catalyst to a killing spree that has claimed at least 22 lives.
Police didn't clarify -- until asked by a reporter -- that the person assaulted was the gunman's girlfriend.
According to experts interviewed by Global News, therein lies the problem.
The Transition House Association of Nova Scotia (THANS) said in a statement they were saddened, "but in no way shocked" by the violence, calling out those who dismissed the killings as a "senseless" act.
"We must not dilute this problem by speaking of a single act of rage but rather recognize that male violence is part of a bigger social problem of entitlement and toxic masculinity," the statement read.
"We need to recognize the underlying attitudes and beliefs that tolerate and normalize smaller acts of violence against women and perpetuate an environment that leads to deadly outcomes."
READ MORE: Nova Scotia shootings began after gunman attacked his girlfriend, sources say
On Friday, a group of Nova Scotian feminists wrote a statement that said misogyny and domestic violence were part of the shooting's narrative. In the letter, they urged the RCMP to provide clarity on what they outlined as the "femicidal" aspects of the murders, demanding an inquiry into the investigation that would provide feminist analysis.
The letter acknowledged that not all of the victims were women or girls — nine victims were men — but the group said they viewed misogynist violence as being at the root of the attack.
The RCMP told Global News they were unable to comment in time for publication.
"Pandemic" of violence
Linda MacDonald, one of the letter's signatories who co-founded human rights advocacy campaign Persons Against Non-State Torture, said this is a problem that affects the entire country, not just Nova Scotia.
"We have a pandemic of violence against women and girls," she said. "But it's still so invisible, and I just don't think it's everyday conversation or everyday thinking or everyday framework."
The Canadian Femicide Observatory for Justice and Accountability's 2019 mid-year report showed during the first six months of 2019, 60 females were killed in 58 separate incidents. The number of women and girls killed each month remained steady from January to May, ranging from 10-12 killings per month.
On average, they said one woman or girl is killed every 2.5 days in Canada — which has been a consistent trend for the last four decades.
READ MORE: Calls for public inquiry into Canada’s worst mass shooting grow in Nova Scotia
In Statistics Canada's 2018 report of police-reported homicides throughout the country, they said women account for about eight in ten victims killed by a current or previous spouse or an intimate partner.
Despite this, MacDonald said often in mass murders women are often an "invisible" element in the equation. This is where feminist analysis comes in, which would seek to "put a gendered lens" on the investigation.
"There's no mention of violence against women. It's been so difficult to even get any truth to the story about whether it started out with violence against women," said MacDonald.
Specifically, in the case of white male killers, Johannah May Black, who works as a bystander program coordinator with the Antigonish Women's Resource Center and Sexual Assault Services Association, told Global News a "softening" of the perpetrators' character occurs that makes these crimes appear senseless or rare.
"This notion that I've seen pop up in the media that violence is very unexpected or unthinkable in these quaint little Nova Scotia rural communities, that is a false notion," said Black, who also co-signed the letter.
"Violence happens in our communities all the time. It's just not something that we recognize or think about because it's gender-based violence, and so that violence has stayed mostly invisible in this province."
Black said one of the most common predictors of future violent behaviour is domestic violence, either against their partners or daughters.
"If we look at the history of mass shootings, we can see that in many cases they begin with an act of gender-based violence, whether it's femicide or intimate partner violence," said Black.
READ MORE: ‘Stay strong’: Virtual vigil for Nova Scotia shooting victims brings music, tears from afar
"When violence against women and girls is at such a high rate in our society, that means that it's time to really take a stand on working towards ensuring those fundamental human rights or women and girls in our society."
A clear example that came to Black's to mind was the Pulse nightclub shooting in Orlando, Fla., in which the perpetrator was known to have been violent against his wife prior to the shooting.
Canadian examples of hate-motivated attacks on women include some of the deadliest killing sprees the country has ever seen, such as the Toronto Van attack in 2018, in which a self-proclaimed incel (someone who blames women for their inability to have sex) ran over dozens of people on Yonge Street, and the Montreal École Polytechnique shooting of 1989, where 14 women were killed at the hands of a misogynist gunman.
Peter Jaffe, the academic director for Western University’s Centre for Research and Education on Violence Against Women and Children, said when it comes to murder, a history of domestic violence can be found in at least 60 per cent of cases.
"Domestic homicides rarely happen out of the blue," he said. "We see these patterns repeatedly."
Three-quarters of mass murder cases in Canada have seven or more well-known risk markers prior to the homicide, said Jaffe.
While a perpetrator's main target may be a spouse or ex-lover, he said that there are many cases where they also target other people that can include children, police, extended family or professionals who may have been involved, including police.
"What people often overlook is the emotional, psychological abuse, controlling behaviour, threats. The general public often thinks domestic violence is simply somebody beating up their partner every night when they've been drinking. And in fact, it's a lot more complicated," said Jaffe.
READ MORE: Security experts say emergency alert could have saved lives during N.S. shooting
While there is no one-size-fits-all approach to ending gender-based violence, Jaffe said acknowledging its existence as well as educating communities and police about the different forms it can take is a good start.
"Violence against women doesn't end with just violence against women. It affects everyone. It affects children growing up in a home where there's violence in terms of their attitudes and beliefs. It affects men who are friends, neighbours trying to help victims at all," he said.
"It affects the whole community."
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/cana...a-scotia-shooting/ar-BB13emX0?ocid=spartandhp
What a load! If anyone watched the CBC's weekly political scrum Sunday morning, you could see they are pushing this narrative hard.
Bullshyte.
The MSM has an agenda, and currently that agenda is to link this shooting to the Polytechnique shooting in 1989 as an assault on women in particular.
I have two questions:
What about the 9 dead men shot? Or the two wounded? Do they not count, are were they all TG and in drag?
If there is a 'pandemic of violence" against women, why is it that 70% of Canadian murder victims are men?
I become increasingly disgusted with the MSM.
Emerald Bensadoun
1 day ago
The RCMP released a detailed account on the attack on Friday, saying that on the night of April 18, the shooter assaulted someone "who was known to him." The public was told that the person escaped and hid in the woods. And they were told that this assault was a possible catalyst to a killing spree that has claimed at least 22 lives.
Police didn't clarify -- until asked by a reporter -- that the person assaulted was the gunman's girlfriend.
According to experts interviewed by Global News, therein lies the problem.
The Transition House Association of Nova Scotia (THANS) said in a statement they were saddened, "but in no way shocked" by the violence, calling out those who dismissed the killings as a "senseless" act.
"We must not dilute this problem by speaking of a single act of rage but rather recognize that male violence is part of a bigger social problem of entitlement and toxic masculinity," the statement read.
"We need to recognize the underlying attitudes and beliefs that tolerate and normalize smaller acts of violence against women and perpetuate an environment that leads to deadly outcomes."
READ MORE: Nova Scotia shootings began after gunman attacked his girlfriend, sources say
On Friday, a group of Nova Scotian feminists wrote a statement that said misogyny and domestic violence were part of the shooting's narrative. In the letter, they urged the RCMP to provide clarity on what they outlined as the "femicidal" aspects of the murders, demanding an inquiry into the investigation that would provide feminist analysis.
The letter acknowledged that not all of the victims were women or girls — nine victims were men — but the group said they viewed misogynist violence as being at the root of the attack.
The RCMP told Global News they were unable to comment in time for publication.
"Pandemic" of violence
Linda MacDonald, one of the letter's signatories who co-founded human rights advocacy campaign Persons Against Non-State Torture, said this is a problem that affects the entire country, not just Nova Scotia.
"We have a pandemic of violence against women and girls," she said. "But it's still so invisible, and I just don't think it's everyday conversation or everyday thinking or everyday framework."
The Canadian Femicide Observatory for Justice and Accountability's 2019 mid-year report showed during the first six months of 2019, 60 females were killed in 58 separate incidents. The number of women and girls killed each month remained steady from January to May, ranging from 10-12 killings per month.
On average, they said one woman or girl is killed every 2.5 days in Canada — which has been a consistent trend for the last four decades.
READ MORE: Calls for public inquiry into Canada’s worst mass shooting grow in Nova Scotia
In Statistics Canada's 2018 report of police-reported homicides throughout the country, they said women account for about eight in ten victims killed by a current or previous spouse or an intimate partner.
Despite this, MacDonald said often in mass murders women are often an "invisible" element in the equation. This is where feminist analysis comes in, which would seek to "put a gendered lens" on the investigation.
"There's no mention of violence against women. It's been so difficult to even get any truth to the story about whether it started out with violence against women," said MacDonald.
Specifically, in the case of white male killers, Johannah May Black, who works as a bystander program coordinator with the Antigonish Women's Resource Center and Sexual Assault Services Association, told Global News a "softening" of the perpetrators' character occurs that makes these crimes appear senseless or rare.
"This notion that I've seen pop up in the media that violence is very unexpected or unthinkable in these quaint little Nova Scotia rural communities, that is a false notion," said Black, who also co-signed the letter.
"Violence happens in our communities all the time. It's just not something that we recognize or think about because it's gender-based violence, and so that violence has stayed mostly invisible in this province."
Black said one of the most common predictors of future violent behaviour is domestic violence, either against their partners or daughters.
"If we look at the history of mass shootings, we can see that in many cases they begin with an act of gender-based violence, whether it's femicide or intimate partner violence," said Black.
READ MORE: ‘Stay strong’: Virtual vigil for Nova Scotia shooting victims brings music, tears from afar
"When violence against women and girls is at such a high rate in our society, that means that it's time to really take a stand on working towards ensuring those fundamental human rights or women and girls in our society."
A clear example that came to Black's to mind was the Pulse nightclub shooting in Orlando, Fla., in which the perpetrator was known to have been violent against his wife prior to the shooting.
Canadian examples of hate-motivated attacks on women include some of the deadliest killing sprees the country has ever seen, such as the Toronto Van attack in 2018, in which a self-proclaimed incel (someone who blames women for their inability to have sex) ran over dozens of people on Yonge Street, and the Montreal École Polytechnique shooting of 1989, where 14 women were killed at the hands of a misogynist gunman.
Peter Jaffe, the academic director for Western University’s Centre for Research and Education on Violence Against Women and Children, said when it comes to murder, a history of domestic violence can be found in at least 60 per cent of cases.
"Domestic homicides rarely happen out of the blue," he said. "We see these patterns repeatedly."
Three-quarters of mass murder cases in Canada have seven or more well-known risk markers prior to the homicide, said Jaffe.
While a perpetrator's main target may be a spouse or ex-lover, he said that there are many cases where they also target other people that can include children, police, extended family or professionals who may have been involved, including police.
"What people often overlook is the emotional, psychological abuse, controlling behaviour, threats. The general public often thinks domestic violence is simply somebody beating up their partner every night when they've been drinking. And in fact, it's a lot more complicated," said Jaffe.
READ MORE: Security experts say emergency alert could have saved lives during N.S. shooting
While there is no one-size-fits-all approach to ending gender-based violence, Jaffe said acknowledging its existence as well as educating communities and police about the different forms it can take is a good start.
"Violence against women doesn't end with just violence against women. It affects everyone. It affects children growing up in a home where there's violence in terms of their attitudes and beliefs. It affects men who are friends, neighbours trying to help victims at all," he said.
"It affects the whole community."
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/cana...a-scotia-shooting/ar-BB13emX0?ocid=spartandhp
What a load! If anyone watched the CBC's weekly political scrum Sunday morning, you could see they are pushing this narrative hard.
Bullshyte.
The MSM has an agenda, and currently that agenda is to link this shooting to the Polytechnique shooting in 1989 as an assault on women in particular.
I have two questions:
What about the 9 dead men shot? Or the two wounded? Do they not count, are were they all TG and in drag?
If there is a 'pandemic of violence" against women, why is it that 70% of Canadian murder victims are men?
I become increasingly disgusted with the MSM.
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So let's recap: an angry old white man gets in a fight with his girl friend and in the process of trying to kill her manages to kill many other people instead.
I can see why the media upsets you so much.
If you were a normal human instead of an angry old white man it would be the killing of the people that upset you.
I can see why the media upsets you so much.
If you were a normal human instead of an angry old white man it would be the killing of the people that upset you.
Well, it would sure help Canada if insane beer spiller idiots like you would go move to another country like Zimbabwe. There you can go play with lions and hyenas. Just a suggestion.
The libtards have already phu-ed this country up for the next twenty years. The lieberals are starting to look like the leftards that they really are by trying to come up with as many new laws as they can where they can maybe eventually abolish elections altogether and then they can become the supreme leaders of Canada forever. Hey, you never know, eh? Never trust a lieberal. They lie all the time. They really do appear to hate we the people.
Now this commie dip shit Turdeau wants to bring in a new law and make it a criminal offence to knowingly spread disinformation about the corona virus. I guess that if someone does dare to try to question anything about this China virus in a negative manner it could mean that someone could end up in one of commie Turdeau's gulag jail. This commie dimwit needs to go. This commie dimwit is a danger to freedom of speech and assembly in Canada. Can Canada even survive another four more years of this communist fool? Liberalism is a disease.
You should be booted from this forum for saying that anyone here is not upset about this tragic event. How can you be sucb a terrible human being?
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid
Ummm, were you there?
The fact: His girlfriend is one of the few attacked that survived, much to her own credit.
Yesterday in their briefing, the RCMP said (and I quote from memory) "The incident with his girlfriend was NOT the catalyst that set this off"
And the most ridiculous part of your post is the last line:
I actually laughed out loud in amazement at your inability to engage in linear thought.
My post was about them EXCLUDING men, and pretending this was an attack on women. It is the killing of people that upsets me, not just one gender.
Some day, after you learn to read, you might actually post something relevant.........