B.C. pipeline protests continue to halt Ontario trains for 5th day in a row

Decapoda

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Trudeau is the stumbling block and once a competent Fed gvt is in play, in addition to TMX and BC LNG in full swing, I expect that we will see a resurgence in all of the resource sectors


Optimism....how quaint. Unfortunately, after witnessing the absurd Trudeau clown show over the last year, followed by his firm re-election by low information voters, followed by more clown show... I'm not quite there with you. Wish I was.
 

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Optimism....how quaint. Unfortunately, after witnessing the absurd Trudeau clown show over the last year, followed by his firm re-election by low information voters, followed by more clown show... I'm not quite there with you. Wish I was.


At worst, we have 3 more years of tater tot but the real question here is what is most likely.


Kenney and Moe have shots that can be fired and no doubt that Ontario is pissed with JT on the rail problems as it is directly impacting people in that province.


So, 3 more years, OR a non confidence vote OR Kenney/Moe get their provinces out of CPP/RCMP and put a financial squeeze on Ottawa OR combination of the aforementioned.


Fact is, tater tot can't afford to stop revenues from O&G, the cupboards are bare and he (the Libs) can only stay in power by bribing Que, the Maritimes and Ontario
 

DaSleeper

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I think it's about time for the N D P to withdraw their support for the liberals and an election to be called!
That is the suggestion that I put in my email to my local M.P.
 

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I think it's about time for the N D P to withdraw their support for the liberals and an election to be called!
That is the suggestion that I put in my email to my local M.P.


That would be dirty because the consevatives dont have a party leader yet
 

Decapoda

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At worst, we have 3 more years of tater tot but the real question here is what is most likely.

Kenney and Moe have shots that can be fired and no doubt that Ontario is pissed with JT on the rail problems as it is directly impacting people in that province.

Voters in this country have abysmally short memories. The rail blockades will settle down eventually, and a week later Ontario will forget it ever happened.

So, 3 more years, OR a non confidence vote
A non confidence vote is needed more than it ever has been needed in this country, however I don't hold out a lot of hope that Canadians would hold to account and vote out the current group of fools currently running things. I look at the tenacity of the provincial Liberals in Ontario prior to the last election....despite obliterating the Ontario economy and getting entangled in countless scandals, Ontarians loyally continued to prop up their "natural governing party" well past their best before date.

A coalition of the opposition parties federally would be a disaster.

OR Kenney/Moe get their provinces out of CPP/RCMP and put a financial squeeze on Ottawa OR combination of the aforementioned.
THIS is the only realistic move in my opinion. I don't think however that it will solve any problems this country is wrestling with, it will only further divide and antagonize an already fractured and regionally adversarial country.

Fact is, tater tot can't afford to stop revenues from O&G, the cupboards are bare and he (the Libs) can only stay in power by bribing Que, the Maritimes and Ontario
Do you honestly think Trudeau is capable of that depth of analysis? LOL!! He's an idealist, he thinks he's doing everything right, and he deeply believes Canadians overall agree with him. And he's already demonstrated that he has no regard for the public purse and is certainly not afraid to borrow billions more to shovel at Quebec. His self-delusion and decadent lack of fiscal responsibility may well be this country's downfall. "A post-nation state with no mainstream values and no core identity" was his vision and his goal...it may well be his only success as leader, and will almost certainly be his legacy.
 
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DaSleeper

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Too late this was my email to her...........



To: carol.hughes@parl.gc.ca



Mrs Hughes,

I think the N D P should re-evaluate their support for the Liberal
government before Trudeau bankrupts the country with his indecision
concerning these protests all over the country....
Northern Ontario might just re-evaluate their support for the NDP
 

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Freight trains moving through burning tire protest near Belleville, Ont.

Protesters who've set up another camp near the site of Monday's police raid are setting tires on fire around the tracks as freight trains move through.
Ontario Provincial Police arrested 10 people on Monday as they dismantled a camp deemed too close to passenger and freight tracks near Belleville, Ont., saying they tried everything they could to find a peaceful way to enforce a court order to prevent interference with the rail line.
Freight traffic has started moving again through the area near the territory of the Mohawks of Tyendinaga, where people upset with RCMP patrols on the territory of the Wet'suwet'en people in northern B.C. have set up a camp on the south side of the tracks.
They've occasionally burned tires along the tracks since the arrests and are doing it again today as freight trains pass by.
OPP spokesperson Bill Dickson says Canadian National Railway Co. inspected the tracks after police and firefighters extinguished an earlier fire.
The latest update from Via Rail is that passenger rail travel through the area is cancelled through Saturday, for now.
There have been other demonstrations in support of the Wet'suwet'en hereditary chiefs against a natural gas pipeline cutting through their traditional land, outside the control of elected chiefs.
They include a road blockade near the site of an ongoing land dispute in Calendonia, Ont., south of Hamilton, and a rail barricade in the Mohawk territory of Kahnawake near Montreal.
Federal Indigenous Services Minister Marc Miller has said Ottawa is still committed to peacefully resolving the situation that has hampered freight and passenger travel in much of the country for nearly three weeks.
 

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There must 30 or so chiefs in the corporation Not including Chief Captain Morgan and Chief Mowich

A who's who guide to the Wet'suwet'en pipeline conflict

The conflict over a natural gas pipeline project in northern British Columbia has swelled across the country, drawing intense attention to the Wet'suwet'en Nation.

To outsiders, the organization and the dual Wet'suwet'en power structures can seem confusing, and parsing who has legitimate authority over the decision to support or block the pipeline can be challenging.
Along the pipeline's route, 20 elected First Nation councils have signed benefit agreements, but across the country, Indigenous groups have taken part in demonstrations and blockades to protest the project.
Here's a guide to some of the main Wet'suwet'en people who have emerged as leaders, spokespeople, advocates and opponents of the project, and how they fit into the nation's elected, hereditary and corporate organizational structures.
Note that there's the Wet'suwet'en First Nation, which has an elected chief and council, and the broader Wet'suwet'en Nation, which includes both the elected bands within the colonial system of governance and a traditional hereditary clan system, which has responsibility for a broader unceded territory covering 22,000 square kilometres.
IN FAVOUR OF THE PIPELINE
Five of the six elected band councils within Wet'suwet'en Nation have signed benefit agreements with the pipeline company, Coastal GasLink (CGL), a subsidiary of TC Energy. (Hagwilget Nation is not on the pipeline route and has not signed any agreements.)
The elected councils, which also include Witset First Nation, Skin Tyee Nation, the Nee Tahi Buhn Band, Ts'il Kaz Koh First Nation (Burns Lake Band) and the Wet'suwet'en First Nation, represent First Nations on reserves created by the federal government under the Indian Act.
Karen Ogen-Toews
Karen Ogen-Toews is a former elected chief of the Wet'suwet'en First Nation. She signed one of the agreements to approve the pipeline, and remains a vocal supporter of the plan.
"In my heart I know I'm doing the right thing. I've done the right thing for our people and my heart is in the right place," Ogen-Toews told CBC News. "If our people are living in poverty, the way to overcome it is through proper training, trades, education and a job.".....Much More
 

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The more the merrier I always say.


With that in mind, as we'll have a larger group, we might have to rent a pub or sumptin' for the meetings.


Anyone with the knowledge and ability to access (significant) federal monies to facilitate this (now) traditional, ceremonial and highly sacred event should come forward ASAP
 

Ron in Regina

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Eh!! Trucking has kicked up. I am just completing a 10 day rounder and will have earned $12,0000 USD

Keep the trains down.. I'm recapping my ass everywhere because there is to much work..

No trains, then they need trucks. The shit will get transported just by a airplane or truck..
For a while, yeah. Rake it in while you can. If Canada stumbles hard as an unreliable trade partner, that'll dry up too and unless you can Interstate it could be dismal.
 

Ron in Regina

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Well said, although I will suggest that this situation represents a deferral of activity and investment.


Trudeau is the stumbling block and once a competent Fed gvt is in play, in addition to TMX and BC LNG in full swing, I expect that we will see a resurgence in all of the resource sectors
If I was bringing large capital to the table in investment $$$ any time in the next decade, I'd be wanting some heavy guarantees from the Canadian Gov't and Freebies on top of that or I'd take my Ball & go elsewhere. That's the investment environment that has been created with Justin & Justin 2.0 this last Oct.
 

Ron in Regina

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At worst, we have 3 more years of tater tot but the real question here is what is most likely.


Kenney and Moe have shots that can be fired and no doubt that Ontario is pissed with JT on the rail problems as it is directly impacting people in that province.


So, 3 more years, OR a non confidence vote OR Kenney/Moe get their provinces out of CPP/RCMP and put a financial squeeze on Ottawa OR combination of the aforementioned.


Fact is, tater tot can't afford to stop revenues from O&G, the cupboards are bare and he (the Libs) can only stay in power by bribing Que, the Maritimes and Ontario
I was sure there couldn't possibly be more than 4yrs of Justin....but here we are. "Really Canada? Really? Twice? Here's your sign."
 

Ron in Regina

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Federal Indigenous Services Minister Marc Miller has said Ottawa is still committed to peacefully resolving the situation that has hampered freight and passenger travel in much of the country for nearly three weeks? It's good that one side is committed to that...but it doesn't work unless both sides are.
 

Ron in Regina

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The more the merrier I always say.

With that in mind, as we'll have a larger group, we might have to rent a pub or sumptin' for the meetings.

Anyone with the knowledge and ability to access (significant) federal monies to facilitate this (now) traditional, ceremonial and highly sacred event should come forward ASAP
Rent? What do you mean Rent? It's our Hereditary Right as self appointed Hereditary Chiefs to a Pub or sumptin', aint it? Rent is Colonialism talk....How Dare You! You've STOLEN our Childhoods and.....wait....I think I'm in the wrong thread....