Trump USA : 2020

Ocean Breeze

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So what? Once he's out of the White House, he'll revert to his former status of ugly, fat, orange Kim Kardashian.
Poor form........is his default position. He might have a problem adjusting to a "lower profile" status after the high profile attention grabbing POTUS role. But yes..... professional good form -decorum-is not a requirement , let alone his forte .........and therefore so what if he keeps making a fool of himself.
 

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The 22nd amendment has been challenged many times, with multiple attempts to have it repealed. Reagan suggested it as did Clinton. Not shocking that Mitch McConnell has also supported repealing, along with others from both parties. I can definitely see Trump challenging it, in fact I expect it. I do wonder though how many members of the GOP would support this. From the current book I'm reading (Stable Genius) and others I have read and from some news reports, there are many party members who behind Trumps back, simply can't stand him. They fear retribution from him if they dare speak out or show a sliver of disloyalty. So if true, I don't know if he'd find the support he would need in a challenge.
good points. Yet Trump's demand for loyalty.......while removing anyone that he deems unloyal.............factors in

either way it is a very interesting situation. It might test the fabric of the constitution and country itself.
 

Cliffy

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White-Supremacist Violence Is Terrorism

As commander of all U.S. and NATO forces in Afghanistan, I fought America’s enemies abroad. Now we must fight violent, hateful ideologies at home.


I combatted the threat of foreign terrorism for much of my career, fighting organizations that are grounded in virulent, hateful ideologies, and in many cases operate in a network of independent, loosely connected cells. Violent white-supremacist organizations operate in a similar fashion. Our failure to address these domestic groups and their networks, or to take them as seriously as their foreign counterparts, is costing us lives, diminishing our shared and cherished values, and compromising our credibility and unity as a people. This is happening now, not in some bygone era, and we have to act immediately if we’re to safeguard our republic.
Last month, I testified before the House Subcommittee on Intelligence and Counterterrorism about one element of the threat that white-supremacists pose: the risks of anti-Semitic violence and the ongoing threats facing our faith-based communities. Yet as we celebrate Black History Month and reflect on all that it represents, we should recognize the deep roots of racism and prejudice in America.
Slavery is America’s original sin, and this “genetic birth defect,” as Representative Hakeem Jeffries recently called it, did not resolve itself with the end of the Civil War, nor with the heroic efforts of the civil-rights movement. The resurgence of white-nationalist ideologies and organizations is rooted in this legacy.

For much of the past 50 years, white-supremacist groups were largely relegated to the fringes of American society, where they continued to survive, if not thrive, as a shameful artifact of history. Yet today they are finding a geopolitical landscape that has grown permissive, or even supportive, of their rhetoric and activities—and we need to do more to combat them. The recent decision of the FBI to elevate racially motivated violent extremism to a “national threat priority” is a strong start. These malign actors are terrorists, and that’s what we should call them. What’s more, we need a comprehensive domestic-terrorism law, one that would help bring the full weight of our laws and resources against the unaddressed and violent manifestations of racism that still persist in American culture today.


More: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/02/white-supremacist-violence-terrorism/606964
 

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White-Supremacist Violence Is Terrorism

As commander of all U.S. and NATO forces in Afghanistan, I fought America’s enemies abroad. Now we must fight violent, hateful ideologies at home.


I combatted the threat of foreign terrorism for much of my career, fighting organizations that are grounded in virulent, hateful ideologies, and in many cases operate in a network of independent, loosely connected cells. Violent white-supremacist organizations operate in a similar fashion. Our failure to address these domestic groups and their networks, or to take them as seriously as their foreign counterparts, is costing us lives, diminishing our shared and cherished values, and compromising our credibility and unity as a people. This is happening now, not in some bygone era, and we have to act immediately if we’re to safeguard our republic.
Last month, I testified before the House Subcommittee on Intelligence and Counterterrorism about one element of the threat that white-supremacists pose: the risks of anti-Semitic violence and the ongoing threats facing our faith-based communities. Yet as we celebrate Black History Month and reflect on all that it represents, we should recognize the deep roots of racism and prejudice in America.
Slavery is America’s original sin, and this “genetic birth defect,” as Representative Hakeem Jeffries recently called it, did not resolve itself with the end of the Civil War, nor with the heroic efforts of the civil-rights movement. The resurgence of white-nationalist ideologies and organizations is rooted in this legacy.

For much of the past 50 years, white-supremacist groups were largely relegated to the fringes of American society, where they continued to survive, if not thrive, as a shameful artifact of history. Yet today they are finding a geopolitical landscape that has grown permissive, or even supportive, of their rhetoric and activities—and we need to do more to combat them. The recent decision of the FBI to elevate racially motivated violent extremism to a “national threat priority” is a strong start. These malign actors are terrorists, and that’s what we should call them. What’s more, we need a comprehensive domestic-terrorism law, one that would help bring the full weight of our laws and resources against the unaddressed and violent manifestations of racism that still persist in American culture today.


More: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/02/white-supremacist-violence-terrorism/606964
Are you racist Cliffy ? Do you hate all whites equally , even your siblings ?
 

Walter

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White-Supremacist Violence Is Terrorism
As commander of all U.S. and NATO forces in Afghanistan, I fought America’s enemies abroad. Now we must fight violent, hateful ideologies at home.
I combatted the threat of foreign terrorism for much of my career, fighting organizations that are grounded in virulent, hateful ideologies, and in many cases operate in a network of independent, loosely connected cells. Violent white-supremacist organizations operate in a similar fashion. Our failure to address these domestic groups and their networks, or to take them as seriously as their foreign counterparts, is costing us lives, diminishing our shared and cherished values, and compromising our credibility and unity as a people. This is happening now, not in some bygone era, and we have to act immediately if we’re to safeguard our republic.
Last month, I testified before the House Subcommittee on Intelligence and Counterterrorism about one element of the threat that white-supremacists pose: the risks of anti-Semitic violence and the ongoing threats facing our faith-based communities. Yet as we celebrate Black History Month and reflect on all that it represents, we should recognize the deep roots of racism and prejudice in America.
Slavery is America’s original sin, and this “genetic birth defect,” as Representative Hakeem Jeffries recently called it, did not resolve itself with the end of the Civil War, nor with the heroic efforts of the civil-rights movement. The resurgence of white-nationalist ideologies and organizations is rooted in this legacy.

For much of the past 50 years, white-supremacist groups were largely relegated to the fringes of American society, where they continued to survive, if not thrive, as a shameful artifact of history. Yet today they are finding a geopolitical landscape that has grown permissive, or even supportive, of their rhetoric and activities—and we need to do more to combat them. The recent decision of the FBI to elevate racially motivated violent extremism to a “national threat priority” is a strong start. These malign actors are terrorists, and that’s what we should call them. What’s more, we need a comprehensive domestic-terrorism law, one that would help bring the full weight of our laws and resources against the unaddressed and violent manifestations of racism that still persist in American culture today.
More: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/02/white-supremacist-violence-terrorism/606964
Prog shit.
 

Mockingbird

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Ad hominem is a poor argument.
Reagan and Clinton did not support repealing amendment 22.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twent...United_States_Constitution#Attempts_at_repeal
Proved it.


I think you misread your own post there Wally, you might want to check it again. In it Reagan is quoted as saying of the 22nd Amendment that it was "an infringement on the democratic rights of the people." And since Wiki has been discredited here as a reliable source I thought it would help you to hear it out of Reagan's own mouth. Would that make you a believer? If you heard him actually say it out loud? In person? For himself? Because he did. Or would that be more of your "fake news?" Jump on ahead to 31:26 of this interview he had with Tom Brokaw where he said he would challenge the 22nd amendment, that he supported repealing it.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?456651-1/president-reagan-interview-tom-brokaw

Then after you're done listening to Reagan stating it for himself, you can read the following article where Clinton in an interview with Rolling Stone also spoke in support of repealing.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2000/dec/08/uselections2000.usa3

Do your homework Walter.
 
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Walter

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I think you misread your own post there Wally, you might want to check it again. In it Reagan is quoted as saying of the 22nd Amendment that it was "an infringement on the democratic rights of the people." And since Wiki has been discredited here as a reliable source I thought it would help you to hear it out of Reagan's own mouth. Would that make you a believer? If you heard him actually say it out loud? In person? For himself? Because he did. Or would that be more of your "fake news?" Jump on ahead to 31:26 of this interview he had with Tom Brokaw where he said he would challenge the 22nd amendment, that he supported repealing it.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?456651-1/president-reagan-interview-tom-brokaw
Then after you're done listening to Reagan stating it for himself, you can read the following article where Clinton in an interview with Rolling Stone also spoke in support of repealing.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2000/dec/08/uselections2000.usa3
Do your homework Walter.
Rent free.

Yes, he supported it once he was out of office,
 

Mockingbird

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Rent free.
Yes, he supported it once he was out of office,


Yeah yeah, I know rent free.

To directly quote you, you stated:

Reagan and Clinton did not support repealing amendment 22.

And they did, period. You were wrong, just admit it. I believe you called it utter bullshit? Still gonna stick with that?
 

Walter

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Yeah yeah, I know rent free.
To directly quote you, you stated:
Reagan and Clinton did not support repealing amendment 22.
And they did, period. You were wrong, just admit it. I believe you called it utter bullshit? Still gonna stick with that?
Rent free.
 

B00Mer

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White-Supremacist Violence Is Terrorism
As commander of all U.S. and NATO forces in Afghanistan, I fought America’s enemies abroad. Now we must fight violent, hateful ideologies at home.
I combatted the threat of foreign terrorism for much of my career, fighting organizations that are grounded in virulent, hateful ideologies, and in many cases operate in a network of independent, loosely connected cells. Violent white-supremacist organizations operate in a similar fashion. Our failure to address these domestic groups and their networks, or to take them as seriously as their foreign counterparts, is costing us lives, diminishing our shared and cherished values, and compromising our credibility and unity as a people. This is happening now, not in some bygone era, and we have to act immediately if we’re to safeguard our republic.
Last month, I testified before the House Subcommittee on Intelligence and Counterterrorism about one element of the threat that white-supremacists pose: the risks of anti-Semitic violence and the ongoing threats facing our faith-based communities. Yet as we celebrate Black History Month and reflect on all that it represents, we should recognize the deep roots of racism and prejudice in America.
Slavery is America’s original sin, and this “genetic birth defect,” as Representative Hakeem Jeffries recently called it, did not resolve itself with the end of the Civil War, nor with the heroic efforts of the civil-rights movement. The resurgence of white-nationalist ideologies and organizations is rooted in this legacy.

For much of the past 50 years, white-supremacist groups were largely relegated to the fringes of American society, where they continued to survive, if not thrive, as a shameful artifact of history. Yet today they are finding a geopolitical landscape that has grown permissive, or even supportive, of their rhetoric and activities—and we need to do more to combat them. The recent decision of the FBI to elevate racially motivated violent extremism to a “national threat priority” is a strong start. These malign actors are terrorists, and that’s what we should call them. What’s more, we need a comprehensive domestic-terrorism law, one that would help bring the full weight of our laws and resources against the unaddressed and violent manifestations of racism that still persist in American culture today.
More: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/02/white-supremacist-violence-terrorism/606964

Good article Cliffy
 

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Amusing the number of Canadians who approve of mass murder at Jewish synagogues and community centers and black churches. So much so that they'll revile a senior general.
 

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Honest Government Ad | Julian Assange

The British, Australian, Ecuadorian and US Governments have made an ad about Julian Assange’s arrest and it’s surprisingly honest and informative!
 

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Trump firing intelligence community inspector general who flagged Ukraine whistleblower complaint
President Donald Trump notified Congress on Friday that he is removing Michael K. Atkinson, the Inspector General for the Intelligence Community who flagged the Ukraine whistleblower complaint.


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/na...lower-complaint-n1176576?cid=eml_nbn_20200403

In the middle of a Pandemic Trump finds time to get revenge. ......He truly is UNHINGED. As is his unhinged so called administration. Totally incoherent.