Trans Mountain ‘pipeline is going to get built’: Trudeau dismisses B.C.’s bitumen ban

Hoid

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Oh I thought we were talking about increasing flow through all the pipelines servicing alberta
 

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Hoid

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Do you mean to tell me these people can increase pipeline capacity by 500k bbls a day and they are just talking about it now?

Bizarre
 

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Congress wants review of Keystone pipeline in wake of spill
Congressmen say the spills raise 'serious questions' about TC Energy's management of the line\

https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/congress-wants-review-of-keystone-pipeline-in-wake-of-spill




Congress is FAR TOO BUSY Bullsh+tting.....................


with impeachment CRAP and Fake News.....................


to be bothered with a leaky pipeline!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Besides there IS NO PROBLEM operating....................


a SPILL PROOF PIPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


IF you do honest maintenance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The fact that both raw sewage and oil are spilling all over the countryside............................


is just MORE PROOF that LIE-berals focus on gravy and not the environment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

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Congress is FAR TOO BUSY Bullsh+tting.....................


with impeachment CRAP and Fake News.....................


to be bothered with a leaky pipeline!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Besides there IS NO PROBLEM operating....................


a SPILL PROOF PIPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


IF you do honest maintenance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The fact that both raw sewage and oil are spilling all over the countryside............................


is just MORE PROOF that LIE-berals focus on gravy and not the environment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I generously gave you a "thumbs up", because once in a blue moon you veer away slightly from your usual stupidity. :)
 

Twin_Moose

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its been relevant for the last 20 years or so at least.
wtf are they waiting for?
something not adding up here

We were adding Pipeline infrastructure to keep up to demand until about 10 years ago mostly going South which is why you never heard of it. Now that we are kneecapped by snowflakes and fake crises we need to find ways of increasing capacity without adding new Pipelines. We in the industry have been critical of Engineers for years of putting hard and soft 90 degree bends in pipelines for years telling them that it will restrict flow. I guess they are waking up to the fact if we straighten out pipelines we maybe able to flow more product. Also at the pump stations they have a habit of choking the discharge lines from the pumps to control surges they will be taking the chokes out to increase volume from the pump head. They are also looking at designated LNG lines with low volume to change them to batch lines so the can run crude through them.

Does any of this help you Hoid? Probably not you will come back with some other stupid question like why didn't they do that from the start. And I'll answer it with they didn't have to because it is cheaper to run a new pipeline.
 

spilledthebeer

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I generously gave you a "thumbs up", because once in a blue moon you veer away slightly from your usual stupidity. :)






HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


HAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Spilled beer is not a concern.............................


but spilled sewage and spilled oil are!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Good to know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Hoid

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We were adding Pipeline infrastructure to keep up to demand until about 10 years ago mostly going South which is why you never heard of it. Now that we are kneecapped by snowflakes and fake crises we need to find ways of increasing capacity without adding new Pipelines. We in the industry have been critical of Engineers for years of putting hard and soft 90 degree bends in pipelines for years telling them that it will restrict flow. I guess they are waking up to the fact if we straighten out pipelines we maybe able to flow more product. Also at the pump stations they have a habit of choking the discharge lines from the pumps to control surges they will be taking the chokes out to increase volume from the pump head. They are also looking at designated LNG lines with low volume to change them to batch lines so the can run crude through them.

Does any of this help you Hoid? Probably not you will come back with some other stupid question like why didn't they do that from the start. And I'll answer it with they didn't have to because it is cheaper to run a new pipeline.
We find out that the industry can add 500K bbl a day and they haven't done so?

Sorry. There is no reasonable explanation for that.

Oh wait. Yes there is: its total bullshit?
 

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its been relevant for the last 20 years or so at least.
wtf are they waiting for?
something not adding up here
Shoving more products through the pipe does no good when it comes to maintenance time. That is why more pipes are needed.threre would be reduced flow with one down but threre would still be flow.
 

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its been relevant for the last 20 years or so at least.

wtf are they waiting for?

something not adding up here






Oh hemerHOID - YOU ARE RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Your LIE-beral BULLSH+T IS NOT adding up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It is hard to imagine how you could be so wrong so often...........................


unless you are really working at it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Here is an article illustrating that LIE-berals are rolling out their carbon tax SCAM EXACTLY AS PLANNED!!



Taxpayers in five provinces unaware of carbon tax rebate eligibility.


With some comments of my own in brackets):


By Jane Stevenson

Published: November 15, 2019. Updated: November 17, 2019 9:43 AM EST

Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ News/ Canada

Canada Revenue Agency reports 14% of Canadians never heard of carbon tax rebates despite heavy promotion by the federal government prior to last month’s election.

(This sort of result suits LIE-berals just fine since those who have not heard of the rebate are not politically aware or well informed anyway!! Keep them dumb and ill informed and they wont ask POINTED QUESTIONS that risk embarrassing LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

This according to an in-house report done by CRA, according to Blacklock’s Reporter, in which taxpayers in five provinces were asked: “Have you heard anything lately about the Climate Action Incentive Payment?

Another 45% said they had heard of it but didn’t know any details.

(The truth is THERE ARE NO REAL DETAILS to be had!! LIE-berals grandly offered a rebate apparently IS NOT ACTUALLY ACCESSIBLE!! There IS A LINE in the 2018 tax form to CLAIM that rebate but there IS NO LINE to indicate IF YOU are entitled to get anything at all from it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(The LIE-beral carbon SCAM REBATE is classic BAIT AND SWITCH!! Since so many people have others do their taxes for them - LIE-berals are comforted by the notion that people will be happily BLIND to reality!! WE will know that our tax preparer WILL APPLY for the rebate on our behalf - but there IS NO MECHANISM in place to indicate what we got - if anything!!!!!!!!)

(So such “rebates” are the best kind of LIE-beral gift!! It is a seemingly generous gift from our benevolent govt - that actually costs them nothing - since they are not actually giving us anything -but which makes OUR TAX FORMS more complicated and costly to fill out as they do their sleight of hand calculations - now you see the rebate and now you don’t!! It`s a SHELL GAME that any street grifter or old school Carnie would be proud of!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

The rebates were supposed to compensate for out-of-pocket expenses incurred from higher fuel charges by those living in various cities in Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Ontario and New Brunswick.

(But of course those fuel charges DO NOT relate to the higher cost of food and clothing that are all driven by carbon tax SCAMS!! NOR DOES the here and gone rebate cover the EXTRA SALES TAX on everything whose price has been driven up by the new fuel taxes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(The LIE-beral carbon tax SCAM is an IDEAL move as it HIDES that DOUBLE TAX load - there is the carbon tax itself - PLUS ALL THOSE EXTRA SALES TAXES on everything!! LIE-berals get to LOOK GENEROUS while raking in the gravy at RECORD RATES -so they can BUY VOTES from HOGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Alberta rebates are coming next year.

GOLDSTEIN: Trudeau will keep pretending his carbon tax works - it doesn't
Federal staff find 'doozy' of an error in carbon tax fact sheet

These were the provinces that decided not to levy their own carbon tax under the Greenhouse Gas Pollution Pricing Act.

Most of the taxpayers quizzed on the effectiveness of the ads said they did not know if they were eligible.

(That eligibility is the heart of LIE-beral bait and switch!! The tax form to claim it is so convoluted and the eligibility qualifications are SO VAGUE - that it seems all but impossible for any but a tax specialist to figure it out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Individual rebates ranged from $305 a year in Saskatchewan to $170 in Manitoba, $154 in Ontario and $128 in New Brunswick.

The Corporate Research Associates survey cost $38,783 to administer to 22 focus group interviews in North Vancouver, Coquitlam, Calgary, Saskatoon, Kitchener, North York, Peterborough, Québec City, Saint-Hyacinthe, Moncton and St. John’s.

(That`s nice - $38 grand to find out that LIE-berals pulled a fast one and got away with it because the Cdn public is too busy trying to survive the LIE-beral tax regime to bother chasing their carbon tax rebate CHIMERA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
 

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Shoving more products through the pipe does no good when it comes to maintenance time. That is why more pipes are needed.threre would be reduced flow with one down but threre would still be flow.
500K bbls a day is more than currently goes through the trans mountain pipeline. Its bout twice as much.


And they just haven't done it why?

Just haven't had the time?
 

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500K bbls a day is more than currently goes through the trans mountain pipeline. Its bout twice as much.
And they just haven't done it why?
Just haven't had the time?

Holy phuck man how many times does it have to be explained to you? Where the phuck do you work so we can poke holes in your industry? They are going to modify the facilities and reapply for permits to a higher safe working pressure restriction to push more product, can't you understand that? We haven't before because we were able to run new Pipelines and stay within the lower pressure restrictions presently agreed to. What this will mean is more small provincial pipelines will be installed to central locations due to the lack of Big Pipelines to service individual customers.

Taxslave makes a valid point as well enough infrastructure is required so contracts are filled even if a line is shut down for maintenance.
 

Hoid

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Pipeline industry safety record is horrendous.

More stringent regulation is coming.