Is Trump FIT (Mentally, emotionally, ethically ) FIT for the JOB???

Tecumsehsbones

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Actually I didn't think Bush was out for himself, and I wasn't old enough to "get" Reagan.
Romney was just an idiot.
Hillary was out for herself.
Currently, I'm iffy on Biden being either out for himself or just out to say he 'tried'.
Not sure which Dem right now should be in office.
But really, mostly anyone would be better than Trump.
Mayor Pete.
 

JLM

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Oh FFS...


The whole Iraq war was a war crime, a war begun on a blatant lie and lives lost because of that lie. The entire region destabilized because of that lie.

Sadly the US can't be tried under the ICC because they're not part of the agreement/statue. But that doesn't make what they lied about not a war crime.


So you were in favour of allowing Saddam to continue killing his citizens (along with his two sons) as he had also done years before with the Kurds, which he gassed, hence leading Bush to the conclusion that he may still have WMDs. At the time the war started the whole world was on his side. It was only after the insurgents started getting 'difficult' that people started thinking better of it. READ THE HISTORY!
 

Tecumsehsbones

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I do like Mayor Pete. If not President, I think he'd make a great VP or Sec. of State. His experience over seas as a soldier and the languages he speaks put him ahead of a lot of others.
I want him to be president, but VP would be setting him up for up to a sixteen-year run in the White House. Because he is a former intelligence officer, he has the mindset and background to deal with Russia and China, and would thus make an epic Secretary of State (the fact that he speaks eight languages helps). Nothing grabs the respect of the Europeans like a degree from Oxford. I think his "just because I'm being polite doesn't mean I don't have a gun and know how to use it" demeanor would scare the hell out of Putin and make Xi very cautious.

But domestically, he has done a good job with a failing Midwest industrial city. Again, this gives him an on-the-ground perspective that the Federal bunch (senators and such) don't tend to have. As Mayor Pete says "I have actually taken the 3:00 a.m. phone call."

He has not connected well with the black community, and that's a problem not to be overlooked. He's working on it. Being fluent in Spanish should help him with the Hispanic community. I don't see being gay as a big drawback, because anybody for whom that's a no-go probably wouldn't have voted for him no matter what.

He is also, by any sane definition of the term, conservative. He's an incrementalist, and wants to thoroughly study and discuss any idea before trying it, and testing it for effectiveness before cutting it in stone.

In other words, he's smart, knowledgeable, thoughtful, brave, and loves his community and country.

No wonder the Republicans hate him so much.
 

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I want him to be president, but VP would be setting him up for up to a sixteen-year run in the White House. Because he is a former intelligence officer, he has the mindset and background to deal with Russia and China, and would thus make an epic Secretary of State (the fact that he speaks eight languages helps). Nothing grabs the respect of the Europeans like a degree from Oxford. I think his "just because I'm being polite doesn't mean I don't have a gun and know how to use it" demeanor would scare the hell out of Putin and make Xi very cautious.

But domestically, he has done a good job with a failing Midwest industrial city. Again, this gives him an on-the-ground perspective that the Federal bunch (senators and such) don't tend to have. As Mayor Pete says "I have actually taken the 3:00 a.m. phone call."

He has not connected well with the black community, and that's a problem not to be overlooked. He's working on it. Being fluent in Spanish should help him with the Hispanic community. I don't see being gay as a big drawback, because anybody for whom that's a no-go probably wouldn't have voted for him no matter what.

He is also, by any sane definition of the term, conservative. He's an incrementalist, and wants to thoroughly study and discuss any idea before trying it, and testing it for effectiveness before cutting it in stone.

In other words, he's smart, knowledgeable, thoughtful, brave, and loves his community and country.

No wonder the Republicans hate him so much.
I don’t think that Republicans think much about him , they appear to be more focused on Harris , Biden , Warren and Sanders at this point . That could easily change when and if mayor Pete starts to gain traction . But hey his last name might be a problem if he is known as Mayor Pete .
 

spilledthebeer

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LOL..........surely you jest. Trudeau might not be his dad....in the high intellect dept.........but Trump is a shlep (sp??) and boorish , and quite ignorant........in comparison. Trudeau has made gaffs.......but he is still young......and learning....... He is quite welcome by the international community..........while Trump is NOT............. He is personable, and quite sophisticated ........while acquiring more polish all the time. Of course he made mistakes.......Show me someone that has not.

The important thing is that he is PEOPLE orientated..........while Trump is only MONEY oriented. and degrades people at every opportunity. while spending most of his time promoting himself or on Twitter. Or both.


Cdns don't let their leaders get away with much.......while the US population lets Trump get away with behavior that is so despicable it is unfit for any society.


In her LIE-beral loving MADNESS and mindless obsession ......................................


delusional Ocean KreskinHoid Blowhard Breezy spews LIE-beral propaganda!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals do exactly as they please...........................


buying votes and rewarding friends and allies................................



at OUR EXPENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


They go from GREED TO GREED to EXTREME EXCESS.........................................


and when the public grows SICKENED by the excess.............................................


from Lavalin...........................................


from Admiral Norman.......................................


from the Carbon crap and trade tax scam..............................................


from the THREE BILLION DOLLAR ADSCAM THEFT.......................................


then LIE-berals start WHINING about a "little mistake"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And OH HOW THEY SPEW FAKE NEWS in their one defense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals desperately WANT TO PRETEND they are sweet innocent servants...............................


and defenders of the public good......................................................


and GOSH and GOLLY.........................................................


DOESNT EVERYBODY make a mistake once in a while???????????????????????????


Thus LIE-berals expect us to FORGIVE...................................


their one little tiny accident!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



AND THAT IS A LIE-beral LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals follow a persistent and very selfish pattern over the LONG TERM.............................


and DENY the long term greed while admitting to only ONE LITTLE.................................


ALMOST INNOCENT OVERSIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-beral word games are LOATHSOME THINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Consider that Our idiot Boy has made overtures for many months....................


in order to EXCUSE Lavalin BID RIGGERS...................................


who ABUSED CDN TAX PAYERS......................................


with RIGGED BIDS IN CANADA.....................................................


while LIE-berals focis on a couple of "LITTLE" Lavalin oversights in LIBYA...................................


and that place was run by an oil rich CRAZY dictator............................


thus there is no harm and no foul..........................................


with LIE-berals HIDING CDN TAX PAYER ABUSE IN PLAIN SIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Consider the Wynne-bag Ontari-owe Sudbury Bribery scandal.......................................


an IT IS ILLEGAL to offer bribes to provincial MPP`s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And that is EXACTLY WHAT Wynne-bag DID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


She FIRED a LIE-beral candidate she did not want................................................


and after he was out of the party......................................


THEN SHE BRIBED HIM NOT TO COMPLAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But LIE-berals INSIST - and a LIE-beral hug a thug judge agreed..............................


what Wynne-bag did was NOT ILLEGAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Because the BRIBE RECIPIENT WAS FIRED AND THUS NOT AN MPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Wynne-bag then turned to a FORMER NDP candidate that she liked..................................


AND BRIBED HIM to run for her LIE-beral party............................................


BUT the same LIE-beral hug a thug judge states that this is NOT illegal type bribery..........................


because the former NDPer WAS NOT YET AN MPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The FORMER NDP candidate was in BETWEEN MPP JOBS......................................



LIE-berals LOVE their word games.................................


and their SLEAZY GRAVY GRABBING ANTICS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And now the same people who gave us the BILLION DOLLAR GAS PLANT SCANDAL...........................


are trying to sell us on their GRAVY GRABBING carbon crap and trade tax SCAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


If these LIE-berals were selling used cars..........................................


they would epitomize the worst of curb siders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


SO WHO would buy a slightly used govt from these gravy grabbing sleaze masters?????????????????????????
 

Cliffy

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JLM

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I doesn't matter how many times you deny it, it doesn't make it not true.


When reporting on downside of people, it's not a bad idea to save a little room for the real baddies like Idi Amin and Saddam Hussein and of course Hillary!
 

Serryah

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So you were in favour of allowing Saddam to continue killing his citizens (along with his two sons) as he had also done years before with the Kurds, which he gassed, hence leading Bush to the conclusion that he may still have WMDs. At the time the war started the whole world was on his side. It was only after the insurgents started getting 'difficult' that people started thinking better of it. READ THE HISTORY!


No, Saddam was an insane dictator and needed removal. Lying to actually do that act though is just as bad, IMO, in its own way. He should have just outright said "I want him gone, I want a war with him to do so".

Except there was no proof he had WMD's which is why he 'lied'. He "maybe" had them, he "Could" have had them, but no proof.

At the time the war started, the world was NOT on his side, sorry to burst your bubble. Maybe you need to read the history.