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Curious Cdn

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Oh Comrade Curious.................................


you might want to go read some of the old history books.................................


such as "The Grand Alliance" by Churchill !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


For whatever reason..................................


the Yankee navy was MUCH MORE Supportive of the Brit cause than many other Yankees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yankee destroyers went so far as to FOLLOW Nazi U-boats...


and report their position to the Brits.......................


prior to Pearl Harbour!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


After Pearl Harbour, the US Navy abandoned the Atlantic and the Coast Guard chipped in some escorts. As far as the US equipping the RCN ... besides the seven "four stacker" destroyers received through Lend-Lease, the only other American ships operated by Canada were two escort carriers that arrived in the RCN via the Brits. Canadian shipyards, on the other hand, supplied the US Navy with fourteen Corvettes and two River Class Frigates, made at Canadian Vickers in Montreal that the Americans reversed engineered into the Tacoma Class, slapped the ole "Proudly Made in USA by Yankee Ingenuity" sticker on them and built a thousand of them.

Such was the generous largesse of the USA during the war. Our deficit with them was a negative seven ships in all. We sent them more war ships than they sent us (not including the 400 Fort class Liberty ships built in Candian yards, as well).
 

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RICHARD LITTLEJOHN: The Donald Trump protests in London were reasonably good-natured, but as always with the modern, agitprop Left it ain't over till the fat lady shouts 'Nazi'

By Richard Littlejohn for the Daily Mail
7 June 2019
Take a gander at this photograph of a porky protester screeching 'Nazi scum!' at a Donald Trump supporter in London this week.
It's uncanny how much she looks like the Baby Trump blimp being flown at the same demonstration.
This priceless resemblance was spotted by a wag on an internet forum called ARRSE, which is an abbreviation of the Army Rumour Service, popular with those interested in military matters.

At the demo, she sported a bottle blonde hairdo. On her Twitter profile, her hair is purple, she's got glitter glued to her cheeks and she's posing in the middle of a circle of EU stars

Laugh? I almost spilled my milkshake. The woman in question answers to the name of Siobhan Prigent, although her friends on Twitter know her as @SiobhanGrrArgh.
She describes herself as an 'Intersectional Feminist, LGBT+, accused crazy cat lady, body positive, striving for equality. Trying to educate myself daily. TERFS & SWERFS not welcome.'
Intersectional Feminist? Sorry, can't help, I'm afraid. Accused crazy cat lady? Pass. Body positive? Judge for yourself, but I imagine it involves finding excuses for being fat.
TERFS & SWERFS? Now then, I have heard of TERFS, although I'm not sure what it stands for.
They're women who get into fights with 'trans' folk because they insist, somewhat controversially, that people born with penises shouldn't be allowed to describe themselves as female, or use women's toilets, changing rooms and swimming pools.

Video on MailOnline shows her yelling 'Nazi scum!' into the face of a semi-retired grandfather in a Make America Great Again hat, then laughing as he is splattered with milkshake, while a woman police officer looks on

But SWERFS? Your guess is as good as mine. Maybe they're lady Smurfs. Where are they all coming from?
Trump's detractors laugh at his idiosyncratic hairstyle and orange complexion. So what are we to make of @Siobhan GrrArgh's appearance?
At the demo, she sported a bottle blonde hairdo. On her Twitter profile, her hair is purple, she's got glitter glued to her cheeks and she's posing in the middle of a circle of EU stars.
Yesterday's Mail featured another picture of her with green hair, some kind of star inked onto her face and what looks like an engagement ring through her nose.
Apparently, she also has a tattoo of Groot, a tree-like superhero from the Marvel comics, on her arm. Of course she does.
So I wasn't surprised to learn that, by her own admission, she's had 'Borderline Personality Disorder' in the past.
In the normal course of events, we'd never have heard of @SiobhanGrrArgh. She only came to our attention after she joined the anti-Trump rally at Westminster.
Video on MailOnline shows her yelling 'Nazi scum!' into the face of a semi-retired grandfather in a Make America Great Again hat, then laughing as he is splattered with milkshake, while a woman police officer looks on.
Elsewhere in the crowd, another grey-haired Trump supporter was attacked and knocked to the ground by the self-righteous mob.

People with proper, productive jobs can't afford to take time off work to throw milkshakes and wave banners in the middle of the afternoon. It turns out that @Siobhan GrrArgh does have a job. And this is where it gets even better. A stock image of the protest is pictured above

If the man in the MAGA hat hadn't been abused and showered with milkshake, we would never have given @SiobhanGrrArgh another thought.
But her overt aggression and contempt for anyone with a different worldview typifies the modern, agitprop Left. It's not enough to agree to disagree, they have to demonise their opponents, to portray them as evil.
The pro-Trump grandad said the event had been reasonably good-natured until she started accusing him of being a Nazi.
It was an unfortunate slur, to say the least, given that Trump's visit was to mark the 75th anniversary of D-Day, to pay tribute to the tens of thousands of brave young men who gave their lives fighting real Nazis. Yet it's the one offensive N-word the Left is happy to throw around, when they're not labelling anyone who disagrees with them as a 'fascist'.
As the Mail said yesterday, haven't any of these morons ever read a history book?
This kind of behaviour might be understandable, if not forgivable, in an over-excited teenager. But @SiobhanGrrArgh is 34 years old, for heaven's sake, an age at which she really should have grown up.
What is striking is how many of the demonstrators were not in the first flush of youth.
The bloke standing next to @SiobhanGrrArgh, shouting at the pro-Trump grandad, has a grey beard and is wearing a cloth cap. A pound to a penny, most of them work in the public sector, or were on official trades union duties. That's if they're not on the dole.
People with proper, productive jobs can't afford to take time off work to throw milkshakes and wave banners in the middle of the afternoon.
It turns out that @Siobhan GrrArgh does have a job. And this is where it gets even better. She runs a private company which provides 'clinical services' to the NHS. Yet here she was on a demonstration against, among other things, a free trade deal with the U.S., which opponents claim will lead to the privatisation of the health service.
You couldn't make it up. Still, self-awareness is not one of the Left's more obvious traits.
If ITV ever decide to make a sequel to Love Island, they should invite @SiobhanGrrArgh to take part. She could go round hollering 'Nazi scum!' at the other contestants until she was voted off.
They could call it Hate Island.
Until then, @Siobhan GrrArgh has gone to the top of the leaderboard in this year's Here We Go Looby Loo Awards. It will take an extra-special madwoman to pip her to the title. The bookies have already stopped taking bets.
To be fair, she has had the decency to apologise belatedly for her behaviour and has closed all her social media accounts.

So no change there, then.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-7114303/RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN-aint-till-fat-lady-shouts-Nazi.html
The girl is just trying to make sure everyone knows she is a Nazi.
 

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The girl is just trying to make sure everyone knows she is a Nazi.

She's a fascist. She's trying to prevent people from displaying their political beliefs just because she doesn't agree with them.
 

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RICHARD LITTLEJOHN: Dear Mr President, here is all you need to know about the hypocritical, terrorist-loving Labour leader who dares to lecture YOU on morality



By RICHARD LITTLEJOHN FOR THE DAILY MAIL
3 June 2019

When asked if he could work with a future British government led by Jeremy Corbyn, Donald Trump gave an uncharacteristically diplomatic answer.

In an interview ahead of his state visit, the President said he would have to meet Corbyn, to ‘get to know him a little bit’.

Trump drew attention to the close ties between our nations, especially when it comes to military co-operation and intelligence sharing.


When asked if he could work with a future British government led by Jeremy Corbyn, Donald Trump (pictured with Melania at Westminster Abbey) gave an uncharacteristically diplomatic answer, write Richard Littlejohn

Surely any British Prime Minister would be eager to maintain those links, he mused: ‘I would think that somebody in that position would want to and have to get along with the United States.’

Perhaps Trump genuinely believes he can reason with the Labour leader in the same way he has attempted to strike up a rapport with the Chinese President Xi Jinping and the North Korean tyrant Kim Jong-un.

Disgraceful

If so, he’s wasting his time. Corbyn would be much happier burning Trump in effigy than breaking bread with him — something he made abundantly clear by boycotting tonight’s Buckingham Palace banquet.

This petulant gesture didn’t only demonstrate a disgraceful lack of respect for the Queen, whose government he aspires to lead. It was also a calculated insult not just to the President, but to the American people as a whole, regardless of their political affiliations.


Today, Corbyn (pictured) will attend — and address — the Stop Trump rally on the streets of London

Today, Corbyn will attend — and address — the Stop Trump rally on the streets of London, complete with puerile Baby Trump blimp floating overhead.

Against that background, a ‘getting to know you’ meeting between the two men is unlikely to happen any time soon. Or before Hell freezes over, come to that.

So allow me to furnish the President with a cut-out-and-keep guide to Corbyn, his close associates and the party he leads.

This isn’t the ‘liberal’ Labour Party of Tony Blair, which stood shoulder-to-shoulder with America after 9/11. Whatever happened subsequently, Blair was right to immediately pledge military and moral support to our closest ally.

By contrast, Corbyn refuses even to say whether as PM he would honour our commitment to deploy British troops to defend a Nato member which came under attack from a country such as Russia. Given half a chance, Corbyn would probably withdraw from Nato and side with Russia.

He is a politician who has never met a terrorist he doesn’t like, an IRA stooge who counts as his friends Hamas and Hezbollah — organisations dedicated to wiping the democratic state of Israel, another close ally of the U.S, off the face of the earth.

It’s no wonder, then, Corbyn’s Labour Party is being investigated by the human rights commission over widespread allegations of anti-Semitism.

The commission is examining 1,000 pages of evidence showing there is ‘reasonable suspicion the party has unlawfully discriminated against, harassed or victimised people because they are Jewish’.

For instance, Peter Willsman, a Corbynite member of Labour’s ruling executive committee, has just been suspended for accusing the Israeli embassy of manufacturing false claims of anti-Semitism against Labour.

This isn’t just confined to a tight, hard-line gang of metropolitan Leftists. The party’s candidate in the forthcoming provincial by-election in Peterborough gave her approval to a Facebook post accusing Theresa May of having a ‘Zionist Slave Masters agenda’.

All this will be of particular interest to Trump, since he is a passionate supporter of Israel and his daughter converted to Judaism after marrying her Orthodox Jewish husband.

Incidentally, Mr President, the Peterborough by-election is only happening because voters signed a petition recalling their sitting Labour MP, after she was jailed for lying on oath about a speeding offence.

Despite her conviction, when she was released on parole she was able to cast the crucial vote in the Commons against Brexit — while wearing an ankle tag.

Corbyn surrounds himself with a bunch of privileged Left-wing former public schoolboys, at least one of whom was in the Communist Party until fairly recently. They share a visceral anti-Americanism.

Anyone who dares to dissent from their line can expect to be the target of vicious character assassination and vile threats on social media, co-ordinated by the controlling Corbynista organisation Momentum.

Platitudes

Economically, Trump may talk about forging a comprehensive free trade deal with Britain post-Brexit. But if Labour forms the next government, he can forget all about it.

Unlike Labour under Blair and Brown, the Corbynistas hate the free market and model their policies on basket-case socialist states such as Venezuela.

Labour doesn’t even respect democracy these days. While Corbyn sits on the fence and mouths constantly conflicting platitudes, the party is pulling out all the stops to prevent Brexit happening.


Sadiq Khan (pictured) has become embroiled in a demeaning social media spat with the President, after accusing Trump of being a ‘20th-century fascist’

This is despite the fact that 17.4 million people voted to Leave the EU, including millions in what were once rock-solid Labour constituencies — the same kind of forgotten working people who propelled Trump into the White House.

Corbyn’s Labour is morally bankrupt, riddled with nepotism, hypocritical, duplicitous and — to borrow one of Trump’s favourite expressions — truly ‘nasty’.

It’s not only the hard-Left, which has its grip on the leadership, either. Take London’s two-bob chancer of a mayor, Sadiq Khan, a self-styled ‘moderate’.

He has become embroiled in a demeaning social media spat with the President, after accusing Trump of being a ‘20th-century fascist’.

It’s difficult to think of a more disgusting insult, given that Trump is here to mark the 75th anniversary of D-Day, the start of the invasion of Europe during which tens of thousands of brave British, American and Allied troops died fighting real fascism.

Sadly, the President responded in kind, calling Khan a ‘stone cold loser’ and a terrible mayor, who should be concentrating on tackling London’s knife crime epidemic.

The President’s remarks were regrettable, but he wasn’t wrong. Khan is more concerned with sucking up to Labour activists, in contemplation of a future leadership bid, than doing the job he’s paid for.

That’s when he’s not galivanting around the world at someone else’s expense. On Saturday night, he was in the VIP seats at the European Cup Final between Spurs and Liverpool. Thousands of his ticketless London constituents were locked outside, or couldn’t afford to travel.

But that’s modern Labour for you. As this paper said yesterday: for the few, not the many.

It’s also worth pointing out that more people voted for Brexit in London than voted for Khan as mayor.

And just look at the juvenile, Left-wing anti-Trumpists on today’s march, trying to reduce the special relationship to a ridiculous squabble about chlorinated chicken and lies about the NHS being sold to the Americans, just because they want to sell us cheaper drugs.

If it were Obama offering us a free trade deal, they’d be hailing chlorinated chicken as a miracle health food and proclaiming him the saviour of the NHS.

Trump may not be everyone’s cup of meat, but at least he says what he means and tries to implement the promises he made to those who voted for him. If he’d been our prime minister for the past three years, Brexit would have been done by now.

He’s not wrong, either, when he says Nigel Farage should have been on the negotiating committee from the start. I wrote that the day after the referendum. Trump appears to understand the 17.4 million British citizens who voted Brexit better than the posturing political pygmies at Westminster who pretend to represent us.

It’s significant that Farage, now leading a Brexit Party surge, is the only British politician to have made a genuine effort to woo Trump properly.

Whatever his shortcomings, Trump has only ever offered friendship and support to this country, unlike our so-called EU ‘partners’, who treat us with undisguised contempt.

He is welcome here any time, as far as I’m concerned, especially as we remember the young men and women from Britain and America who gave their lives to liberate Europe three-quarters of a century ago.

While Trump’s in the White House, we can rely on the close relationship enduring. Let’s just hope he never has to get to know Jeremy Corbyn.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/...EJOHN-Dear-Mr-President-need-know-Corbyn.html
 

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After Pearl Harbour, the US Navy abandoned the Atlantic and the Coast Guard chipped in some escorts. As far as the US equipping the RCN ... besides the seven "four stacker" destroyers received through Lend-Lease, the only other American ships operated by Canada were two escort carriers that arrived in the RCN via the Brits. Canadian shipyards, on the other hand, supplied the US Navy with fourteen Corvettes and two River Class Frigates, made at Canadian Vickers in Montreal that the Americans reversed engineered into the Tacoma Class, slapped the ole "Proudly Made in USA by Yankee Ingenuity" sticker on them and built a thousand of them.

Such was the generous largesse of the USA during the war. Our deficit with them was a negative seven ships in all. We sent them more war ships than they sent us (not including the 400 Fort class Liberty ships built in Candian yards, as well).


Yeah........................


YAWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Red Tory NONSENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Britain WOULD HAVE STARVED TO DEATH WITHOUT THE YANKEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


A former reporter for the Winnipeg Free Press - a guy named Roberts - was head of their Ottawa news bureau..............................


and when war was declared and Roberts was in the media scrum questioning Defense Minister Ralston...........................


and Ralston turned the tables on Roberts with HIS OWN QUESTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




Ralston discovered Roberts was a 2nd lieutenant in the Cdn militia....................................


and Ralston grabbed him on the spot.........................................gave him 3 days to pack his bags and kiss the wife good bye............


and dragged him off to Washington as Ralston`s military aid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In those days reporters all knew short hand and as Roberts was ALREADY in the military he needed no training!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And as a senior reporter......................................


he could keep accurate notes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


This was in the days BEFORE reporters became LIE-beral friendly media whores!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Roberts wrote a book about the IMMENSE PILE OF STUFF that Ralston bought from the Yankees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Everything from Aircraft to Zippers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Lots of it got used by Cdns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And LOTS MORE got shipped to Britain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



As for Yankee ships deserting the Atlantic after Pearl Harbour...................................


YOUR IGNORANCE IS SHOWING YET AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Under the agreement reached with Roosevelt and Churchill....................................


allied war policy would follow this course BASED ON BRITISH STRATEGIC THINKING.......................................


that was SUPERIOR to Yankee ideas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


First- the victory of the West depended on Russian survival......................................


if Germany won in Russia.....................................


Nazis would get such a haul of weapons and slave labourers and mercenary troops and resources................................


that the WEST would end up in a NEGOTIATED PEACE with Hitler!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So support for Russia was VITAL to All!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Second- the defense of Australia and New Zealand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


After the Bataan Death March and the atrocities against westerners in Singapore and Hong Kong............................


wounded soldiers bayoneted in their beds................................................


those who could not march all the way to a prison camp bayoneted at the road side.....................................


captured British nurses herded in groups to be raped by teams of Japanese soldiers.........................


and when the soldiers got bored they would bayonet the nurses they had been playing with and go get another supply......................


it was agreed that NO MORE WHITE PEOPLE should be allowed to fall into Japanese hands!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Thus the defense of Australia and New Zealand was deemed CRITICAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yankee author James Michener who was in New Zealand with the military - in the days before the Battle of the Coral Sea - wrote later



that the situation was so dire that the New Zealand govt commandeered all the axe handles they could find and issued them to male



citizens in hope they might be of some use AS CLUBS to defend some women from invading Japanese......................................


So Yankees DID NOT ABANDON the Atlantic..................................


the split in responsibilities put Brits close to their home base in the Atlantic...............................................


and allowed Yankees to make best use of their Pacific coast bases...... .......................................



along with Pearl Harbour, Midway and Australian and New Zealand harbours...................................................


to DEFEND Australia and New Zealand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



You really should not let your anti Yankee paranoia get th better of you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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She's a fascist. She's trying to prevent people from displaying their political beliefs just because she doesn't agree with them.
because fascist is another word you don't know the meaning of.
 

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Well hey cliffy, I didn't know you were there too!
;)
BTW, We all KNOW the queen never said that ( every one knows only gold silver wear is good enough for the queenie who actually owns some of the corporations YOU HATE so much!). So there you go: AS pointed out on that other thread where you accused other people of lying, and it was pointed out to you there, here you are outright lying with someone else's words, AGAIN!
 
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spilledthebeer

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LOL, I take it you don't even read your own posts. Even slowly.
;)






Must be something in the water?????????????????????????


How else to explain people like hemer-HOID???????????????????????????????????????


Here is another article prompting the question "WHAT IS IN YOUR WATER"?????????????????????????????


And it also makes a rather direct connection to why depression is such a serious deal for cops!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Imagine dealing with these idiots all day...............................................


for 30 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!









Here is an article that makes sane people despair for the human race! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Mom hit son for being 'bad lookout for shoplifting grandma': Cops

By Brad Hunter

Published: April 23, 2019. Updated: April 23, 2019 11:50 AM EDT

Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ News/ World

Rebecca Gonzalez allegedly assaulted her seven-year-old son for being a "bad lookout" for his shoplifting grandmother. PHOENIX POLICE

A 27-year-old Arizona woman doesn’t appear to be in the running for mother of the year.

Rebecca Gonzalez was arrested after allegedly attacking her seven-year-old son for “being a bad lookout for his shoplifting grandma.”

Gonzalez was arrested in Phoenix on Friday and charged with aggravated assault.

According to court documents obtained by KNXV, cops responded to a suspected child abuse call at a local Walmart.

Officers say the mom had gone to pick up the boy, who had been acting as a lookout for his grandmother while she shoplifted.

(Gosh it sounds like this poor kid is marked by FATE! How can this kid grow up healthy in such a situation????????????????)

But police say the mother slapped and punched her boy in the face in the parking lot in front of shocked onlookers.

The boy’s mouth was bleeding when officers approached the pair.

The youngster told police his mom hit him because “he didn’t watch out for his grandma good enough.”

The identity of the boy’s grandmother has not been released and it isn’t known whether she was pinched for pulling the five-finger discount.

(One has to hope that Grannie will pay dearly for her idiocy- allowing such people control over children OUGHT to be ILLEGAL!! But of course the reality will be seeing the crap swept under the rug by LIE-berals - for the bebefit of the CHILD!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(After all -it is ILLEGAL to compel kids to testify against criminal parents!! LIE-berals do not want to put kids through the trauma of having to chose sides in a conflict like this- even though the parents have already DONE SO!!!!!!!!)

(Thank you LIE-berals for yet another drug addled legal MESS!!!!!!!!!)
 

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Nothing that you say is true.




Hemer-HOID is a true expert on the subject of Fake News!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Just LOOK at how much of it he has spouted in support of LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Here is some more disappointing news about the electric TOY cars that hemer-HOID and his LIE-beral masters want to force us to buy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





Here is an article exposing how little real environmental benefit those COSTLY electric TOY cars offer us!! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Analysis: Just how green are electric vehicles?

By Hilton Holloway

Published: May 10, 2019

© Autocar EVs are greener than petrol cars – ‘after driving 435k miles’

The legislative push towards battery-powered electric vehicles has taken hold across most of the world. Indeed, the demands of the European Union’s new car fleet CO2 emissions requirements for 2025 and 2030 leave manufacturers no option but to build significant numbers of EVs in the future.

(In other words it is GOVT that is pushing the demand for these electric TOYS! And in the process, LIE-berals are telling us Fake News about their favorite TOY cars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

There are also tough EV targets in place in China, forcing car firms to react. Volkswagen, scarred by the Dieselgate scandal, is going even further by taking a huge bet on mass-manufacturing EVs from next year.

(China has SERIOUS trade problems -related to its massive population an the sheer quantity of resources that must be imported to maintain those people!! China
has no oil of its own and really cannot afford to import much of it either- for China there does seem to be an economic case for electric Toy cars- too bad the case DOES NOT stand up for the western world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(There is a question regarding what choices the public would make -if given an HONEST CHOICE by LIE-berals? Would the general public support AND PREFER to reduce their carbon foot print by giving up motor boats and seadoos and air flights to Florida??)

(Or would the public be willing to let LIE-berals FORCE them out of gas cars and compel us all to walk or bicycle in snow and rain and summer heat?? WE all know how INADEQUATE our rickety old public transit system is and how overloaded as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(Would the public really acquiesce in letting LIE-berals destroy our access to personal cars and force us onto public transit- given its current troubles with service reliability, crowding and speed??????)

(There is the question and the stark choice? Cut carbon usage by outlawing personal vehicles for the general public? Or cut carbon usage by BANNING FRIVOLOUS USE of gas powered TOYS??????????)

There’s no doubt that travelling in EVs has a smaller CO2 footprint than even the best internal combustion engine cars because the efficiency of a battery-electric drivetrain is around three times that of a normal petrol car and more than twice that of the latest Toyota Prius hybrid.

But, ultimately, much depends on the nature of the electricity generation that is feeding the battery pack in question. Plugging in an electric car makes most environmental sense in Norway, Sweden and France, thanks to hydropower and nuclear power respectively.

(And in related news- LIE-berals LIE about how clean nuclear power is- they rarely have much to say about the MASSIVE CONCRETE burial chambers that MUST BE CREATED to hold nuclear waste product for up to 25,000 years!!!!!!!)

(Even WORSE - is the LIE-beral AVOIDANCE of just how much waste is produced by a nuclear power plant in any given year!! I have been in the Darlington nuclear plant on business and I can testify that all manner of stuff from wrenches to clip boards and pens can be contaminated merely by putting them down on a “dirty” surface!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(Nuclear contamination “creeps” like anti biotic resistant bacteria spreading through a hospital! Only relentless cleaning and regular DISPOSAL -meaning burying stuff in concrete containers - of contaminated equipment keeps a nuclear plant clean - and FILLS UP those concrete disposal pens!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Another crucial aspect of the lifetime CO2 footprint of EVs is the energy used to manufacture the battery packs. More than one study has claimed that battery pack production consumes so much energy that it takes significant mileage before the EV has ‘worked off’ the CO2 released during its manufacturing.

(The issue of energy consumed and pollution generated during production of Lithium batteries is yet another area where LIE-berals find it HARD to tell us the truth!! Dust from Lithium processing is hugely toxic- and in places like China - the govt does not tell locals down wind of the facilities about the dangerous crap blowing in the wind!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(People in Nevada DO HAVE an understanding of Lithium pollution as the Tesla Gigafactory was SHUT DOWN several times in its early days as Lithium dust - both on Tesla property and on other lands down wind of the plant grew to dangerous levels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(Tesla now assures us all is under control and that Lithium dust is being kept to “acceptable” levels!! But acceptable to WHO?????????????????????)

The latest study on the ‘CO2 lag’ of electric cars comes from the University of Liège in Belgium. Calculations by Professor Damien Ernst, originally commissioned by a TV show and reported by local newspaper HLN, are by far the most negative take on EVs yet.

Using the average CO2 output of the European electricity network, Ernst concluded that an electric car using a 60kWh battery made in Europe would have to travel some 700,000 kilometres (435,000 miles) before it is “greener than an average petrol car”. However, Ernst also says that a fully renewable European grid would reduce the EV’s CO2 lag to just 30,000km (18,640 miles).

(And we have MORE deliberate deception!! European LIE-berals are BACKING AWAY from large scale investment in renewable power!!! Both Germany and Spain were early enthusiasts for wind power since both have WINDY sea coasts with strong breezes- apparently IDEAL for wind power generators!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(To bad the Germans and Spaniards discovered that wind power is UNRELIABLE since WIND IS NOT under man made controls!! There is either too much or too little- and thus a wind power system requires a DUPLICATE power system fueled by natural gas, nuclear or water power - fully manned and ready to take over at a moments notice when the gust of wind fades!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(In related news- some people in the Etobicoke area of Toronto will recall the BITTER complaints to Ontari-owe Hydro as fluctuating power levels and over loaded circuitry and failing transformers caused power spikes that BURNED OUT tv`s and computers!! Large scale use of renewables is ideal for reproducing those damaging power spikes as wind output fluctuates!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(In related news- Wynne-bag Ontari-owe LIE-berals discovered during their relentless drive to gouge us with electricity price rip offs - that the quickest way to manage erratic output of wind and solar was to shut off WATER POWERED generators!! It takes THREE DAYS to push a nuclear reactor from idle to full power -and another three days to turn it back to idle- simply not an option in a system where generation varies wildly from minute to minute!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

( It is just TOO BAD for Ontari-owe power users that water power happens to be the quickest to turn on or off - making it the easiest to dump when wind power soars in heavy gusts!! LIE-berals DO NOT CARE that water power is the cheapest and cleanest form of generation available -LIE-berals are focused on making room in the grid for their green power price gouging !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(This LIE-beral NEED to implement their power plans and price gouging need for gravy are spinning the party in Fake News circles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

The story caused an expected stir in Belgium with arguments about Ernst’s calculations, which were variously adjusted to around 350,000km or, in the case of claims from professors at the Delft University of Technology, the calculation is ‘just’ 80,000km driving before the vehicle breaks even on its larger manufacturing energy footprint.

(The validity of these figures is NOT actually RELEVANT!! The average age of a gas car on Ontari-owe roads is currently ELEVEN YEARS!! And a Lithium car battery is intended to last TEN YEARS!! So to get fully HONEST comparisons of gas and electric cars we need to count FOR COMPLETE BATTERY REPLACEMENT at the ten year mark- WHICH DOUBLES the time needed for an electric TOY to come cleaner than gas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

It’s not the first time that EV battery manufacturing has been called into question. A year ago, the International Council on Clean Transportation released an in-depth report on the same issue. It summarised 10 different studies into battery manufacturing globally, all of which attempted to calculate the CO2 released.

The results ranged from 50kg CO2/kWh to 200kg CO2/ kWh and even higher. The ICCT used a central estimate of 175kg and calculated that battery production would add 35g CO2/km to the lifetime efficiency of an electric car, assuming the battery lasted 150,000km (93,200 miles).

The ICCT report also compared a Nissan Leaf carrying a 30kWh battery with a Peugeot 208 1.6 BlueHDi, and concluded that the Nissan has a relatively modest 30% efficiency advantage in day-to-day use.

The IVL Swedish Environmental Research Institute came to a similar conclusion in 2017, stating that an EV with a big 100kWh battery – manufactured on a grid that was between 50-70% fossil fuel – has emitted between 15 and 20 tonnes of CO2 before it has turned a wheel.

The IVL recommended that drivers should not buy an EV with a large battery and that it was important that future battery manufacturing was achieved with as much renewable energy as possible.

(NOT BUY A LARGE BATTERY?? Electric TOY makers are ALREADY having difficulty since their TOYS have such limited range as it is!! With electric Toy range PLUMMETING in weather below 10 Celsius!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Audi’s newly rebuilt facility near Brussels has gone down this route for its production of the new E-tron. The factory has 37,000 square metres of solar panels, said to provide 95% of its electricity, and it uses biogas to heat the plant. The E-tron’s battery is also built on site, helping to drive down its embedded levels of CO2.

(That is nice!! Audi is trying to go green!! But what is the COST of all those solar panels? Ontari-owe LIE-berals BROKE THE BANK and destroyed their own party while trying to turn Ontari-owe GREEN that way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Clearly, while EVs have a huge advantage in terms of local pollution, the whole manufacturing cycle is surprisingly energy-intensive and the day-to-day energy efficiency is not as impressive as it should be on the typical European grid.

(LIE-berals HAVE NO INTENTION of looking honestly at the FULL range of pollution generated through the ENTIRE life cycle - from extraction of resources needed for construction- up to disposal of the worn out remains of an electric TOY car!! To be HONEST about full pollution produced would SOUR the public!!!!!!!)
(An electric Toy car has all the efficiency and utility of one of those two seat “Smart Cars”!! They are fine machines for bumbling around town on short hops BUT next to useless for any real commuting of the sort Cdns so often must do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(And LIE-berals DO NOT want to discuss the crash ratings for a puddle jumping small machine like a Smart Car!! Nor do they want to discuss what kind of RAGING FIRE that APPEARS if a Lithium battery case rusts out or gets cracked open!! As owners of Samsung phones can attest- Lithium bursts into flames if exposed to air!!!!!!!!!!!!)

If building EVs wasn’t financially risky enough for car makers, demands for factories to run mostly on renewables adds significantly to the cost.

(LIE-berals are DESPERATE to get their favoured electric TOYS built so they can start to price gouge on electricity!! Therefore LIE-berals feel ENTITLED to FUDGE ANY NUMBERS as necessary so they can more easily get their own GREEDY WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
 

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Donald Trump hits out again at Sadiq Khan over London violence

BBC News
16 June 2019


The US president and London mayor Sadiq Khan have been in a "political grudge match" for years

US President Donald Trump has once again criticised London Mayor Sadiq Khan, calling him a "national disgrace" who is destroying the UK's capital.

His comments came after five attacks in London in less than 24 hours left three men dead and three others injured.

Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn said it was "absolutely awful" Mr Trump was using the "tragedy of people being murdered to attack the mayor".

President Trump's tweets follow a long-running feud between the two men.

Retweeting a post by right-wing commentator Katie Hopkins about this weekend's violence in London, the president said Mr Khan was "a disaster" and the capital needed a new mayor. 55.8K people are talking about this


Mr Trump later followed it up with another post saying: "He is a national disgrace who is destroying the city of London!"

In response, Mr Khan's spokesman said the mayor's thoughts were with the victims' families and he "is not going to waste his time responding to this sort of tweet".

The mayor was focused on supporting the city's communities and "over-stretched" emergency services, he added.

Mr Khan later tweeted: "Violent crime has no place in our city, and there's no higher priority for me than Londoners' safety." 303 people are talking about this


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-48651131
 

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Trump appears on football show Saint & Greavsie to make the draw for the 1991-92 Rumbelows Cup 5th round:
 

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Donald Trump hits out again at Sadiq Khan over London violence

BBC News
16 June 2019


The US president and London mayor Sadiq Khan have been in a "political grudge match" for years

US President Donald Trump has once again criticised London Mayor Sadiq Khan, calling him a "national disgrace" who is destroying the UK's capital.

His comments came after five attacks in London in less than 24 hours left three men dead and three others injured.

Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn said it was "absolutely awful" Mr Trump was using the "tragedy of people being murdered to attack the mayor".

President Trump's tweets follow a long-running feud between the two men.

Retweeting a post by right-wing commentator Katie Hopkins about this weekend's violence in London, the president said Mr Khan was "a disaster" and the capital needed a new mayor. 55.8K people are talking about this


Mr Trump later followed it up with another post saying: "He is a national disgrace who is destroying the city of London!"

In response, Mr Khan's spokesman said the mayor's thoughts were with the victims' families and he "is not going to waste his time responding to this sort of tweet".

The mayor was focused on supporting the city's communities and "over-stretched" emergency services, he added.

Mr Khan later tweeted: "Violent crime has no place in our city, and there's no higher priority for me than Londoners' safety." 303 people are talking about this


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-48651131


Thank you for supplying the USUAL LIE-beral BIAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Khan had PREVIOUSLY STATED that "Londoners should accept some violence as the price of living in a big city"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The THREE PEOPLE were STABBED and ONE SHOT in 24 hours......................................


and the London public temper BOILED OVER at the violence........................................................


as three of the four DIED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And of course Khan is merely following the USUAL LIE-beral position ................................................


that we SHOULD ALL get used to this violence and blood shed........................................


in the same way we adjust to TORNADOES AND MAJOR BLIZZARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


If Toronto mayor Jackass John Tory had stood up and told us...........................................


within the last year ............................................


that WE IN TORONTO should resign ourselves to more "Summer of the Gun" CRAP..........................................


Jackass John would be TARRED AND FEATHERED for his STUPIDITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


When violence FLARES................................................


stupid LIE-berals who are aiding and abetting it with their "catch and release" JOKE of a legal system.............................


must then make re-assuring noises for a while.........................................


till the blood is hosed away............................................



it is just the usual LIE-beral TWO FACED HYPOCRISY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Given a choice between losing votes or seeing more blood in the streets................................................


LIE-berals ALWAYS CHOSE to accept more BLOOD in the streets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



London mayor and general MORON Saddiq Khan is simply trying....................................................


AND FAILING.......................................


just like his Cdn LIE-beral counterparts...................................................


to DEFEND LIE-beral style immigration.........................................


that fills the country with people who lack the ability to survive in a modern democratic country...........................


and who too often turn to CRIME to supplement their WELFARE CHEQUES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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JIM'LL EXIT Jim Davidson vows never to set foot in London again as he accuses mayor Sadiq Khan of ‘f***ing up my hometown’

By Abe Hawken
15 Jun 2019
The Sun

COMEDIAN Jim Davidson has vowed to never return to London again and accused mayor Sadiq Khan of “f***ing up his hometown”.

The 65-year-old took to Twitter to vent his fury about the capital which has been blighted by a knife crime epidemic with at least 56 murder investigations being launched this year.


Jim Davidson, pictured, has accused Sadiq Khan of "f***ing up" London Credit: Rex Features


He blamed the traffic and congestion on the London Mayor Credit: PA:press Association


He has vowed to never return to his hometown Credit: Twitter

He wrote: “I am never coming to London again. Khan. You have “f***ed” my hometown up.”

Davidson, who was born in Kidbrooke, South East London, was then accused of being racist and was forced to defend his comment online.

He claimed his tweet about the capital was simply about the “congestion and traffic” building up in parts of the area he grew up in.

The Conservative supporter, who now lives in Stockbridge, Hants, later wrote: “To all you twitter moaners re my coment (sic) on my home town.

"TRAFFIC"


“It is purely the congestion and traffic I cannot bare but all you lefties can still call me racsist (sic) if if (sic) gets you off Charlton?

“You can bypass London and go through Kent.”

The former Big Break and Generation Game host previously branded a group of climate activists "horrid people" in a furious outburst after their protest brought traffic to a standstill and made him late.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9300342/jim-davidson-accuses-sadiq-khan-of-fing-up-london-hometown/
 

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The thing is that before khan became mayor there was no traffic in London at all.

None.