Gun Control is Completely Useless.

VIBC

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In normal English 'gun grabber' would be a person who impetuously goes for a gun, and as colpy himself acknowledges, is a person prone to twisting stats and evidence on violence by cherry picking to support their agenda. But we all noticed that already.
 

JLM

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Lets see now - Clompy starts this never ending thread by comparing Minnesota (one of the least violent states in America) to Manitoba (the most violent province in Canada.)



How do you figure? Probably more death in Montreal and Toronto every hour than in MB in a week!
 

JLM

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Probably not. The ,violent crime rates in the Canadian West are substantially higher than in the East.

http://www.macleans.ca/canadas-most-dangerous-places/


On the cities with violent crime Winnipeg ranks 40th across Canada, so common sense tells me that Manitoba being # 1 would be impossible as common sense also tells me Winnipeg would have the most crime of any place in Manitoba. So Manitoba being #1 would be BULL SH*T. :)
 

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I would bet my bottom dollar Montreal has the most crime of any place in Canada and Toronto would be second and Vancouver or Surrey would likely be third.
 

spilledthebeer

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Stay clear of anything that's had bondo spread on it.




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Bondo......................as in James Bondo spread on it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


He is sort of sticky and clingy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And leaves an unpleasant residue of BAD IDEAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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spilledthebeer

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/colorado-manhunt-columbine-anniversary-1.5101530

Interesting gun control story with this young woman who is infatuated with the Columbine shootings. She left Colorado - went to Florida - bought a pump action shot gun and ammo and has disappeared after making some social media threats. 20 schools went on lock down

Now why would she leave Colorado and go to Florida?

Is it easier to buy a gun in Florida?

How can it be easier to buy a gun in one state vs another when the unlimited right to own a gun is a federal right?

Can you make the gun shop or possibly gun maker pay for all the law enforcement costs?




It is one of the quirks of "states rights" that some states have more restrictive controls on firearm purchases than others!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Florida ins widely recognized as the nutbar capitol of United States and so I guess buying a gun there might be easier????????????


Especially if you were already know to Colorado authorities as a nut???????????????????????


And maybe Florida didnt check on Colorado records for the nut before making the gun sale?????????????????????/
 

Hoid

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On the cities with violent crime Winnipeg ranks 40th across Canada, so common sense tells me that Manitoba being # 1 would be impossible as common sense also tells me Winnipeg would have the most crime of any place in Manitoba. So Manitoba being #1 would be BULL SH*T. :)
You might want to review whatever source you are using there.

It sounds like they have have listed the result alphabetically - as that is the only way Winnipeg ends up in 40th place for any violence related stat.
 

spilledthebeer

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Who would suggest that majority rule is tyranny? Certainly not I. I would suggest it can be tyranny, and sometimes is......but that is obvious.


As for my debating style, Yep.......I use a sledgehammer. You argue to win. I've already made up my mind on this subject, so there is no discussion with antis, just argument.


I stay reasonably polite as long as the opposition does......




Sore losers ............meaning Soviet Socialist types such as Black Lives Matter and Idle No More routinely refer to "the tyranny of the majority"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The Soviet Socialist BIGOTS and their supporters LOVE democracy as long as it is going their way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



But when the gravy runs out...........................................


they go BERSERK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!








Before the fight between teachers and the public gets completely out of control we should remember a few things about LIE-beral school values!!!!!!!!!!

LIE-berals think it is more useful to teach 9 year old kids about anal sex than multiplication tables and spelling.

LIE-berals would rather damage our education system and reduce academic standards across the board and blight the future of our kids than admit how many ethnic kids are failing in our school system thanks to our messed up LIE-beral immigration policies!

LIE-berals would rather blame “racists” for blighted black lives than admit it is crap attitudes that are mostly to blame!

LIE-berals think it is police harassment for cops to arrest large numbers of black criminals- real proof and evidence of wrong doing is irrelevant to LIE-berals!

Being non white should NOT be a get out of jail free card as LIE-berals claim!!!!!

Wynne-bag LIE-berals suggest that Ford will lay off 40,000 civil service union Hogs if he becomes premier. Are there really 40,000 public relations spin doctors and parasites in LIE-beral govt?

LIE-berals are angry that Ford thinks that parents should be informed if their 15 year old daughter needs an abortion! A 15 year old girl is NOT an adult!

LIE-berals say a Ford govt will have to make service cuts. Oh? Worse cuts than those LIE-berals have made by shutting rural hospitals and rationing health care?

LIE-berals say poor people cannot afford Conservative policies. Too bad NONE of us can afford LIE-beral policies- as soaring Cdn debt levels prove!

LIE-berals insist that poor people are worse off with that Ford Tax cut than they would have been with the $15 dollar minimum wage!!!! To bad nobody is counting the REALITY of LIE-beral tax increases that would have kicked in if Wynne-bag LIE-beals had been re-elected!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

For one thing- we know that Wynne-bag would have immediately DOUBLED the highly inflationary carbon crap and trade tax SCAM if she had been elected - and LIE-berals DO NOT INTEND to be honest about what that would do to the economy!!!!!!

Nor do Wynne-bag LIE-berals wish to tell us what effect their ANNUAL INCREASE to the carbon tax scam would have over the next 4 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LIE-berals warn that Ford will give corporations huge tax cuts- will this interfere with the flow of gravy to LIE-berals listed in the Paradise Papers tax scandal?

LIE-berals whine about Ford not wanting to expand rent controls- LIE-berals would rather just destroy the rental market using the Soviet style “command economy” model where bribery and political connections make or break your housing options!

LIE-berals whine that Ford will not give minimum wage increases and how will LIE-berals justify their disgraceful salary increases for Hogs if there is no minimum wage ponzi scheme in effect to PRETEND people are getting more money? With LIE-berals its all in one pocket and back out the other- with ONLY civil service Hogs actually KEEPING the raises!

LIE-berals pretend that the minimum wage increase benefits poor people even as LIE-berals dismantle the raise with higher income tax, increased Cdn pension plan deductions, higher Unemployment deductions, increased hydro costs, soaring food prices as carbon crap and trade scam kicks in, soaring property taxes and all manner of increased fees just so LIE-berals will have the gravy they need to buy Hog votes and cling to power at any price!

Ford see nothing wrong with selling Cannabis in corner stores- how will LIE-berals get to buy votes by creating more jobs for civil service union Hogs in newly created govt weed stores if non union people get to sell it?

LIE-berals say Ford will give corporations big tax cuts- will these ALLEGED cuts cost more than the proven LIE-beral MaRs deal, E-health, the endless waste and entitlements at Metrolinx, the rot at MTHC, the LIE-beral pedestrian bridge built upside down, the snow plowing scandal, the road paving scandal, the Nippising bridge failure, the failure of prefab steel girders LIE-berals bought for 401 bridges, the accounting lies that auditor general Bonnie Lysyk has documented, the fifty percent raises demanded by senior college and university staffers, the green energy mess that only cleans wallets of cash and leaves the dirt in the air?

LIE-berals suggest that Ford will not make business take responsibility for pollution but we already have solid proof that the LIE-beral carbon crap and trade plan is nothing but a costly scam- designed in imitation of the scandal riddled European model- to enrich civil service union Hogs so how can Ford possibly make that costly LIE-beral mess any worse?

LIE-berals whine that Ford will not support their failed carbon crap and trade mess simply because it is INEFFECTIVE! LIE-berals do not want to admit that cutting back on gravy to Sunshine List Hogs so the people in Ontari-owe who already have the largest carbon foot print will be forced to cut back IS a more effective climate control method!

LIE-berals whine about lost jobs under Ford- but crippling debt is the real job killer! One has only to look at the disaster of the PIGS- Portugal, Ireland, Greece and Spain to se the ugly job killing reality of debt!

LIE-berals whine that tax breaks to corporations do not create jobs- if that is true then why does LIE-beral policy offer all manner of tax breaks and grants to any business to come here and set up shop?
 

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Tecumsehsbones

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I have two questions the gun-banners haven't been able to answer yet. Maybe one of the gun-banners here can. . .

There are about 400,000,000 guns in private hands in the U.S. Assuming you can pass a law making private possession of firearms completely illegal:

What are you going to do about those guns?

How will you stop more guns from coming into the U.S.?

Same applies to Canada, though I realize the numbers are nowhere near as high up yonder.
 

Hoid

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Speaking as I do for all gun banners - the collection of guns would be an ongoing task.It would obviously never be completely done.

As far as stopping them from entering the US you could just start calling them "mexicans".
 

Curious Cdn

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I have two questions the gun-banners haven't been able to answer yet. Maybe one of the gun-banners here can. . .
There are about 400,000,000 guns in private hands in the U.S. Assuming you can pass a law making private possession of firearms completely illegal:
What are you going to do about those guns?
How will you stop more guns from coming into the U.S.?
Same applies to Canada, though I realize the numbers are nowhere near as high up yonder.
You're all ready for Ragnarok.

After you've all gunned each other down while trying to make America great again, it won't matter.

"WALL-E finds a Smith and Wesson in the rubble."
 

VIBC

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... gun-banners haven't been able to answer .... Assuming you can pass a law making private possession of firearms completely illegal: What are you going to do about those guns?
How will you stop more guns from coming into the U.S.?
Tecumsehsbones, you're on my ignore list but Hoid responded to your post and I opened it to see what it was about. Having read it I feel it deserves a response to at least two of your comments:

1. I'm not aware of anyone, on the forum or elsewhere, who wants to 'ban guns' or make "private possession of firearms completely illegal". If there are such persons here I invite them to make themselves, and their reason for such an extreme attitude, known to the rest of us. I suspect they would be a vanishingly small minority. More likely you're just setting up straw men with a pretend agenda to argue against.

2. I don't really care about more guns coming into the U.S.