Gun Control is Completely Useless.

Jinentonix

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More sheep are shooting themselves dead with the guns - accidentally and on purpose - than are being killed by wolves.
Suicide is not gun problem. There are about twice as many people who hang themselves than shoot themselves in any given year. Better call for Rope Control. BY the by, accidental shootings account for around 13 dead a year on average.
13 accidental deaths by firearm per year vs 1800 accidental deaths per year by motor vehicle. Yep, we definitely need more gun control right this f*cking moment while we wait at least another 32 years for the carnage on the road to be reduced.

What's the matter pookie, don't wanna be inconvenienced by the irresponsible actions of other drivers while you're perfectly happy to inconvenience law-abiding gun owners because of criminals and a handful of irresponsible gun owners?
 

pgs

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Suicide is not gun problem. There are about twice as many people who hang themselves than shoot themselves in any given year. Better call for Rope Control. BY the by, accidental shootings account for around 13 dead a year on average.
13 accidental deaths by firearm per year vs 1800 accidental deaths per year by motor vehicle. Yep, we definitely need more gun control right this f*cking moment while we wait at least another 32 years for the carnage on the road to be reduced.

What's the matter pookie, don't wanna be inconvenienced by the irresponsible actions of other drivers while you're perfectly happy to inconvenience law-abiding gun owners because of criminals and a handful of irresponsible gun owners?
Hey are governments take the same route on gun control as they do on driving , create more laws . Nothing changes but they look good . You can have a translator to take your drivers written exam . The amount of drivers that have no clue as to the rules of the road are staggering .Inforcement of minor infractions is minimal . All of this could be fixed with better training and stricter testing and enforcement, however this could be misconstrued as racial in nature and no politician will go there .
 

pgs

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Suicide is not gun problem. There are about twice as many people who hang themselves than shoot themselves in any given year. Better call for Rope Control. BY the by, accidental shootings account for around 13 dead a year on average.
13 accidental deaths by firearm per year vs 1800 accidental deaths per year by motor vehicle. Yep, we definitely need more gun control right this f*cking moment while we wait at least another 32 years for the carnage on the road to be reduced.

What's the matter pookie, don't wanna be inconvenienced by the irresponsible actions of other drivers while you're perfectly happy to inconvenience law-abiding gun owners because of criminals and a handful of irresponsible gun owners?
As for suicide apparently hanging is far and away the most successful way to go . I have never tried it myself .
 

spilledthebeer

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You're totally entitled to come up with opinions, but you ain't smart enough to establish facts. :) :)




TECUMSEHBONESFORBRAINS much prefers innuendo and deliberate slander!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Demanding he employ only logic and reason would leave him with nothing to HATE!



One has only read his filthy lies and deliberate distortions of truth about such cases as the shooting of ARMED Minnesota Stoner



Castile!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Colpy

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Bill C-71 is an utter and tragic failure
Senator Don Plett·Wednesday, March 27, 2019





When it comes to the Bill C-71 (An Act to amend certain Acts and Regulations in relation to firearms), it’s difficult to know whether the Trudeau government is insincere or merely incompetent. While claiming that the Bill "prioritizes public safety and effective police work," the legislation does neither.


In his Second Reading speech to the House of Commons, Minister Goodale began by painting a grim picture: "Crime rates generally in Canada have been on the decline for decades… However, offences involving firearms are bucking the positive trend." Goodale repeated this assertion at the Senate Standing Committee on National Security and Defence which is currently studying Bill C-71, insisting that, "While crime rates generally have been steadily falling in Canada for decades, we have seen a sharp increase in the number of criminal incidents involving firearms."


Regardless of how often the Minister repeats this line, it remains patently false. No matter which metric you look at – overall crime rates, the violent crime rate, or the crime severity index – the last 20 years of statistics clearly show that gun crime and overall crime rates follow the same arc: Gun crime goes up when crime goes up, and gun crime goes down when crime goes down. The phony crisis suggesting that gun crime is rising while overall crime is dropping simply doesn’t exist.


But this doesn’t mean we don’t have a problem – we do. It includes rising gang violence, a disproportionate homicide rate by indigenous persons, and a failure to enforce our existing gun laws. Yet Bill C-71 addresses none of these.


Consider the following: Between 2014 and 2017, 66 percent of homicides by firearms were committed by people with criminal records. This tells us that at least two-thirds of gun homicides were the consequence of a failure to enforce our current gun laws because it is already illegal for someone with a criminal record to possess a firearm. More regulation would have done nothing to save these lives.


Secondly, over the same period, 68 percent of all homicides were committed with a restricted or prohibited weapon. Since restricted and prohibited weapons are already registered and tightly controlled, it is clear that increasing gun control measures for non-restricted firearms will be equally ineffective in preventing gun crime.


Thirdly, according to Statistics Canada, 38 percent of all homicides in 2017 were committed by Indigenous persons. When you consider this in context of the size of the Indigenous population, it means that across Canada, an Indigenous person is 12 times more likely to commit homicide than a non-Indigenous person. Broken down by province, it works out to 11 times more likely in Alberta, 13 times in Manitoba, and 43 times in Saskatchewan. A tragedy is unfolding in slow motion in Indigenous communities and families, and yet the government seems oblivious to the fact that there are much deeper societal issues at play here that will not be addressed by simply piling on more gun laws.


Furthermore, Statistics Canada tells us that between 1991 and 2017, 90 percent of homicides were solved – unless they were gang-related. When gangs are involved, only 44 percent of homicides are solved. This means that, of the 206 homicides committed with a firearm each year (2014 – 2017 average), an average of 70 are left unsolved every year and approximately 57 of these would be gang-related. In other words, between 2014 and 2017, approximately 280 murderers have been left to roam free on our streets and the majority of these are gang members.


If the government was serious about preventing homicides by firearms and prioritizing public safety, getting murderers off our streets should be their top priority. But it’s not. Instead, Minister Goodale is making scapegoats out of law-abiding gun owners – saddling them with more paperwork, more hoops to jump, and more threats of criminal charges – all the while pretending that this will reduce crime. The assertion is absurd, and gun owners are tired of the charade.


Gun control advocates like to use the expression, “If it saves one life, it’s worth it.” What they fail to recognize is that if the same amount of effort and money utilized in a different manner would save ten lives, then refusing to do so and saving only one is criminal.


The fact is, public resources are not infinite. They should be allocated in the most efficient, effective manner possible in order to achieve the greatest possible impact and public policy outcome. Whether due to this government’s insincerity or incompetence, it is indisputable that Bill C-71 utterly and tragically fails to do so.
 

spilledthebeer

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New Zealand demanding to tighten gun laws in wake of terrorist attack.

This is how a normal country works.




AND HOID.................


THE UNAPOLOGETIC hypocrite..........................................


is putting the LIE-beral party to shame!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


This is how a LIE-beral party is DISGRACED AND DESTROYED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Decapoda

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In his Second Reading speech to the House of Commons, Minister Goodale began by painting a grim picture: "Crime rates generally in Canada have been on the decline for decades… However, offences involving firearms are bucking the positive trend." Goodale repeated this assertion at the Senate Standing Committee on National Security and Defence which is currently studying Bill C-71, insisting that, "While crime rates generally have been steadily falling in Canada for decades, we have seen a sharp increase in the number of criminal incidents involving firearms."

Regardless of how often the Minister repeats this line, it remains patently false....

This crap that Goodale and the Liberals keep spewing to push their anti-gun agenda is complete and utter bullshit...it is intentionally disingenuous. As usual, the Liberals can't possibly sell their argument based on objective fact, so they have to lie, deceive and obfuscate statistics in order to push their agenda.



Liberals' claim of 'steady increase' in gun crime rests on a 'drastic' comparison to a low-crime year

Experts say Trudeau government's choice of baseline year makes crime stats look worse than they really are.

2013: The "most drastic" baseline

What appears to make 2013 attractive as a point of comparison is that any year in the past half century can be made to look alarming by comparing it to 2013. That's because 2013 saw Canada's lowest rate of criminal homicides in 50 years, and the lowest rate of fatal shootings ever recorded by Statistics Canada.

"To be worth much, a report based on sampling must use a representative sample," wrote Huff.

But 2013 does not represent any kind of Canadian norm. Choosing it as a baseline could be seen as an example of what statisticians call "selection bias."

"They obviously picked the one year where it was lowest, so as to maximize the impact, the one year to make the change look most drastic, essentially," said Pierre-Jérôme Bergeron, who teaches statistics at the Department of Mathematics and Statistics at the University of Ottawa.

"Here, I'm pretty sure they saw 2013 at the bottom, and said, 'We're going to pick that,'" he said. "Just like climate change deniers will say, 'It hasn't warmed since 1998,' but they pick 1998 because it was so hot, one of the highest, and is actually an outlier."