Trans Mountain ‘pipeline is going to get built’: Trudeau dismisses B.C.’s bitumen ban

[Twin_Moose]

Union outcry as automation eats up 400 oilsands jobs – and it’s just the beginning

As Suncor Energy prepares to shed 400 jobs to prepare for the implementation of driverless ore-hauling trucks, the union representing workers at the company is publicly condemning the decision.
“Highly experienced and capable operators will always need to play a role in oilsands extraction, and it is a mistake to think otherwise,” said Jerry Dias, Unifor National President in a statement.
A Unifor representative also told Global News that the union has worked with Suncor to ensure that no permanent, full-time employees would be laid off
Driverless technology is only just starting to cause layoffs
The company has been testing the 400-tonne capacity Komatsu trucks for about four years and has nine now. It announced Tuesday it will gradually build a fleet of more than 150 driverless trucks over the next six years, starting with the North Steepbank mine at its Base Camp north of Fort McMurray, making Suncor the first oilsands mining operation to adopt this technology.
More: https://globalnews.ca/news/4000125/suncor-union-outcry-automation-oilsands-jobs
Thus the plan is to build a pipeline to save jobs that are not even there. A pipeline that can potentially destroy eco-tourism and other environmental resourced based jobs including salmon fishing... What's wrong with this picture?

Just shedding temporary foreign workers

 

[petros]

You tell us the economic miracle underway in America obviously had it’s start under the previous administration , so the same must hold true in British Columbia . Christie must have left the province heading in the right direction economically .

Why would BC Dippers use carbon tax money to fund a private company to convert to natural gas and why in Poland? Why aren't Dippers creating "Green Jobs" by establishing facilities to convert bunker oil fueled ships to natural gas?

Why are BC Ferries having conversions done in Polish shipyards and not in North Vancouver or Victoria?

Why are thousands of fishing vessels carbon tax exempt? Where are the NG or electric vessels?

 

[petros]

Just shedding temporary foreign workers

I bet the trucks at NWT diamond mines operated by Dene women will never be automated.

 

[spilledthebeer]

Union outcry as automation eats up 400 oilsands jobs – and it’s just the beginning

As Suncor Energy prepares to shed 400 jobs to prepare for the implementation of driverless ore-hauling trucks, the union representing workers at the company is publicly condemning the decision.

“Highly experienced and capable operators will always need to play a role in oilsands extraction, and it is a mistake to think otherwise,” said Jerry Dias, Unifor National President in a statement.
A Unifor representative also told Global News that the union has worked with Suncor to ensure that no permanent, full-time employees would be laid off
Driverless technology is only just starting to cause layoffs

The company has been testing the 400-tonne capacity Komatsu trucks for about four years and has nine now. It announced Tuesday it will gradually build a fleet of more than 150 driverless trucks over the next six years, starting with the North Steepbank mine at its Base Camp north of Fort McMurray, making Suncor the first oilsands mining operation to adopt this technology.


More: https://globalnews.ca/news/4000125/suncor-union-outcry-automation-oilsands-jobs


Thus the plan is to build a pipeline to save jobs that are not even there. A pipeline that can potentially destroy eco-tourism and other environmental resourced based jobs including salmon fishing... What's wrong with this picture?

POOR DELUDED CLIFFY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


We have already HAD this talk about driver-less mining machines being used at low speeds in a short range closed- meaning simple- road system- NOT accessible to the public!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Nobody minds letting mining equipment loose in a mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But we object like HELL to letting them loose on highway 401!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


As for the union whining about losing jobs..........sigh.....................ALL unions are currently griping about jobs lost to automation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


What civil service union Hogs DO NOT want to talk about is the fact that our economy can no longer produce enough gravy to satisfy the HOGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It is this DIRE LACK of new gravy that is turning the formerly Sunny Ways of Our idiot Boy so very cloudy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals desperately NEED to BUY VOTES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals counted on their now disgraced electoral reform to splinter the country into small tribal groups and to paralyze Parliament - with LIE-berals expecting to make full use of various allies so LIE-berals could cling to power in a minority govt and that scam has FAILED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And LIE-berals counted on their disgraced carbon crap and trade tax SCAM to provide them with grand new flows of gravy to be used to BUY votes of support for their socialist political CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!


And the carbon tax SCAM HAS FAILED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Thanks to the Lavalin mess, we are now getting a clear refreshing new look at just how deceitful a LIE-beral govt can be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


After all LIE-berals happily told us that the Quebec based Charbonneau Inquiry had resolved the election funding SCAM in that province!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And yet Charbonneau heard testimony that MULTIPLE engineering forms were involved in that election scandal...........but ONLY Lavalin was ever investigated or paid any penalty- and their fine was a PALTRY TOKEN AMOUNT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


AS for Cliffy and his CRAP about eco-tourism............he IGNORES the reality that it will be FOSSIL FUELED MACHINES that will bring in the tourists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


POOR STUPID CLIFFY probably thought HOID was serious when he talked about ELECTRIC TOY AIRPLANES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


What a pair of Maroons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[petros]

AS for Cliffy and his CRAP about eco-tourism............he IGNORES the reality that it will be FOSSIL FUELED MACHINES that will bring in the tourists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

A cruise ship uses as much energy as 50,000 homes and purposely sail the whale migration routes but a tanker a day will kill all the whales.

 

[spilledthebeer]

A cruise ship uses as much energy as 50,000 homes and purposely sail the whale migration routes but a tanker a day will kill all the whales.

SO what you are telling us petros is that we SHOULD BAN CRUISE SHIPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


After all- cruise ships are only about fun and games and holidays!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


There are MANY Cdns who have never taken a cruise AND YET DO not feel the lack!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


What you are telling us is that cruise ships ARE DISPOSABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But that tankers are NOT disposable- thanks to economic reality in North America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And if LIE-berals would stop obstructing us- we could re-open the Alberta oil patch and reduce the amount of oil being carried to us IN TANKERS from Venezuela and Saudi Arabia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I have said it before- and repeat it now- that LIE-berals ARE IGNORING simple solutions to global warming and environmental degradation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-beral environmental policy is SO SLOPPY that cruise ships HOLD their grey water- from washing dishes and etc; along with their black water- meaning sewage until they reach Cdn waters where they can DUMP their dirt for free!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yankee legislation PROHIBITS such casual dumping!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But our LIE-beral environmental HYPOCRITES dont care about such dumping!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Yet LIE-berals tell us how strongly they care for the environment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Oh well................there IS a reason why we call them "LIE-berals"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[taxslave]

What did Christie leave us with?
$16 billion BC Hydro debt?

The cheapest electricity in America. And a system that is close to rebuilt. Now the Dippers will destroy all that again. On the bright side they will piss off so manyn party faithful with the damage they are doing to ICBCthat we will probably be able to can it.

 

[MHz]

Lots of Canadian oil gets to market efficiently

The USA is as far as it has to go. Poor deflection so the sheeple don't know they are suckers.


BTW the coming diamond mines will be where all the robotic R&D pays off. Only humans ever in site will be the owners who arrive by air.

Underwater mining is the next step so remote subs . . . . are the first step Canada.

 

[spilledthebeer]

The USA is as far as it has to go. Poor deflection so the sheeple don't know they are suckers.


BTW the coming diamond mines will be where all the robotic R&D pays off. Only humans ever in site will be the owners who arrive by air.

Underwater mining is the next step so remote subs . . . . are the first step Canada.

Poor stupid MHz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


He has not heard that De Beers has been laying off native woRkers and sending them back to KASHETCHEWAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



NO new oil wells drilled in Alberta means no new demand for the industrial diamonds that they were digging up in the Hudson`s Bay Lowlands area!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And stupid MHz does not seem to realize a lot of people OTHER THAN Yankees want to buy our oil!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Which is why Kinder Morgan pipeline went to WEST COAST rather than Gulf Coast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I guess MHz just will not comprehend until he gets some more LSD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Hoid]

The cheapest electricity in America. And a system that is close to rebuilt. Now the Dippers will destroy all that again. On the bright side they will piss off so manyn party faithful with the damage they are doing to ICBCthat we will probably be able to can it.

BC isn't actually in America.

How cheap is something that you owe $16 billion on?

 

[MHz]

The Cold War cost $5T, see how little $16B really is?

 

[JLM]

BC isn't actually in America.

How cheap is something that you owe $16 billion on?

Actually, it is, it's in NORTH America!

 

[petros]

The cheapest electricity in America. And a system that is close to rebuilt. Now the Dippers will destroy all that again. On the bright side they will piss off so manyn party faithful with the damage they are doing to ICBCthat we will probably be able to can it.

It's cheaper over all in Manitoba.

 

[spilledthebeer]

The Cold War cost $5T, see how little $16B really is?

POOR STUPID MHz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The Cold War would have cost a LOT MORE than 5T if the Soviets had won!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


United States govt can point to its debt and be proud much of it was in up in defense of the Free World!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals can point to our Cdn debt and proudly boast- we wasted all that money on the civil service union GRAVY TRAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[B00Mer]

That is declaration of war against the people of BC, especially our native people. This is going to cause blood shed. Fukk tar sands. Pump it east if you must. We don't want that shit fowling up our water, soil and air.

The Native Indians land where the pipeline crosses, want it.. it's a tribe south of the pipeline that get's nothing out of this who is protesting.. it doesn't even come close to their reserve.. just a lack of money from the project and greed..

They need to cut off aid to all Natives and tell them to join Canada and get a job..

They complain about suicide, unwanted pregnancies, drugs.. WTF do you expect when you have no goals in life and nothing to do but collect a government check and sit on your ass doing nothing..

To fukking bad they breed like rats otherwise they would have killed themselves off by now.

 

[spilledthebeer]

The Native Indians land where the pipeline crosses, want it.. it's a tribe south of the pipeline that get's nothing out of this who is protesting.. it doesn't even come close to their reserve.. just a lack of money from the project and greed..

They need to cut off aid to all Natives and tell them to join Canada and get a job..

They complain about suicide, unwanted pregnancies, drugs.. WTF do you expect when you have no goals in life and nothing to do but collect a government check and sit on your ass doing nothing..

To fukking bad they bread like rats otherwise they would have killed themselves off by now.

Now Boomer that is a bit harsh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


After all the natives do fish and hunt from time to time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And they dont sit on their asses all day every day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Look how many are willing to travel many miles to a protest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Of course for them its sort of like a family gathering.........a social event with a political BULLSH+T CAUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



They even go out and get exercise from time to time............do you not recall the mob of natives who hiked along Gardiner Expressway during the height of rush hour a few years back??????????????????????


If I recall correctly- the marchers got on at Jarvis St. and cops eventually managed to nudge them off at Spadina.......or maybe they were getting thirsty and headed for the pub????????????


After all it was a warm summer day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Cops gave them a nice escort so they would not end up plastered to the grill of an SUV!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And some of them are even educated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our Cdn version of Soviet Pravda- that would be CBC news- did a story about how boil water advisories were lifted on 3 Saskatchewan reserves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Apparently some native guy who was a REAL RADICAL THINKER....................graduated from high school and then went on to take a water plant operators course and obtained his certificate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And his band IMMEDIATELY HIRED THE KID - to operate the drinking water plant that had been sitting mothballed for TWENTY YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Yes- federal vgot had BUILT a drinking water plant to serve three small reserves - but no white man would live on the pest hole reserve to operate the drinking water plant and no native had the certificate needed to operate the plant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So they boiled water for 20 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Till the EDUCATED kid came along!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Imagine that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


WHAT a STRANGE WAY to resolve a problem of dirty water??????????????????????????????????????

 

[taxslave]

You tell us the economic miracle underway in America obviously had it’s start under the previous administration , so the same must hold true in British Columbia . Christie must have left the province heading in the right direction economically .

That she did. Now the Dippers are busy trying to destroy it all again and put us back into debt and have not provinc'e again.

 

[taxslave]

BC isn't actually in America.
How cheap is something that you owe $16 billion on?

When did we move: Or haven't you taken geography in school yet?

 

[JLM]

When did we move: Or haven't you taken geography in school yet?

Surely you've learned by now that Hoidy isn't very accurate with 'facts'!

 

[Hoid]

America is the United States of America.

The America's are North and South America.

If they had said BC has he cheapest electricity in The America's I would have accepted the grammar, but not the actual lie. It would still be a lie.