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Hoid

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As for your shot about my tax credits, I'm not in a position to influence people's ideas, opinions or attitudes.

But you are in the position of getting money from Mr Trudeau.

You are in his debt.

Your vote is invalid
 

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spilledthebeer

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I know - how is an upstart media company so threatening? It must be because they accuse it (and by association) the 1,000's of subscribers as racist and bigots as the only substantive points they can make. They don't actually address the issues; they attack the Rebel instead. Maybe makes them feel better??? How mature is that?


Has the Rebel had some growing pains? Absolutely. Have they apologized when they were wrong and made changes? Yes. It is an evolving business which will succeed or fail on it's own.


That doesn't matter and totally not relevant to the MSM despite the fact that they too have made mistakes but have NOT apologized (maybe a "correction" on page 6 or something). LOL Instead, when the Rebel stumbles, there is nothing but condemnation & gleeful contempt. Fortunately for its followers, they understand that we are only human and mistakes are made, that it is an evolving process and eventually, it'll be done right. The Rebel isn't politically correct nor do I want it to be.


The CBC's Wendy Mesley (sp) is also obsessed with the Rebel - brings it up every chance she gets, scornfully I might add. Apparently, it bugs the hell out of the MSM (especially the CBC) that the Rebel even exists, is supported by individuals & dares give another point of view. Wonder if they'll ever get over it?? Apparently alternative views (good & bad) aren't allowed! Someone, somewhere, may be offended. Good! They need to get a thicker skin!


And the MSM wonder why they're having financial issues because people are objecting to their biases and stupidity. There is not only The Rebel out there; there are other sources so if the MSM can't compete, guess maybe they should close shop instead of forcing us to bail them out!!


As I'm writing this, I realized that, perhaps what makes the MSM so uncomfortable about The Rebel is that the Rebel asks the questions the MSM should be asking and questions that people want answers to, not some unabridged Political Correct soft ball questions that we could care a less about. Very few interviews conducted by the MSM ask serious questions and demand serious answers; rather than challenging people, they simply move on to another "soft ball" question, much like Question Period where the question asked is totally disregarded by some meaningless gobble-gook. (BTW all parties are guilty of this - just sayin')


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LIE-berals are terrified and disgusted and REPULSED by the idea of a totally independent news media!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


How CAN a good LIE-beral put a politically correct spin on a LIE-beral mess if there some blabber mouth standing behind him and exposing every LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Clearly an independent and honest news media is NOT in the best interests of LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



In the interest of promoting Cdn culture- her are a few uniquely Cdn expressions:

Idle no more:

The native political movement known as `Idle no More` will continue to be `irrelevant forever` until such time as its leaders recognize that their first task is to clean up corruption and gross mismanagement on the reserves. Once this is done `Idle no more` will find that accomplishing a larger list of political goals will be much easier.

native discrimination:

Natives will continue to be jailed in disproportionate numbers just so long as they continue expressing their contempt for white society by engaging in criminal acts such as theft, drunken and disorderly conduct, theft, and the smuggling of cigarettes, guns and other illegal contraband.

Native jobs:

Only about 25% of natives graduate from high school and an even smaller proportion goes on to higher education. Since over 75% of all jobs currently on offer in Canada require post secondary education natives are guaranteed to continue having serious employment problems until they understand that getting an education is not synonymous with selling out to white society.

Boil water advisory:

This is a common feature of life on a typical reserve. LIE-berals want to portray this as a sign of racism but in doing so LIE-berals display their OWN Racism! In summer, 2016, CBC news reported that THREE reserves out west were able to cancel their boil water advisories AFTER a local man graduated from high school, then went on and graduated from college with suitable training and certificates and came back to the reserve area and promptly used his new training certificates to start up the water treatment plant that had been sitting IDLE for 20 years because no local person was qualified to operate it! LIE-berals do not want to admit that no educated white person is excited about going to live on a native reserve/third world pest hole to operate the equipment for the drunken, violence prone and to often drugged up natives!
Systemic racist: Any person who undertakes a serious analysis of conditions on reserves and, as a result, comes to the conclusion that the vast majority of problems on the reserve are the result of drunken violence, drug addled nonsense, a remarkable lack of useful education and a startling level of wide spread band council corription will be deemed a `systemic racist` by natives and LIE-berals.

Native land claims: A legal process by which natives claim to be owed more gravy than they are currently getting. LIE-berals respond to this native demand by posturing in a submissive and servile way and offering up major lumps of tax money to appease natives- who will later use most of the money for drunken and drug fueled binges and for the purchase of gas guzzling pick up trucks and ATV`s. This new transportation fleet will then be used to carry natives to various sites to protest the production of the fuel their new transportation fleet is using. Conservatives ignore this LIE-beral designed system of native bribery.
 

Hoid

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If CBC was worth it then they would do what CNN does and actually sell their content to generate all their money and not have to rely on the government for money
CNN is not producing whole lot of content on Canada.
 

Bar Sinister

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If CBC was worth it then they would do what CNN does and actually sell their content to generate all their money and not have to rely on the government for money


CNN? I tried to watch that but there is almost zero news content. It is primarily a base for talking heads shouting at one another over a single news story. There is actually more news content in the scroll along he bottom of the screen.
 

Johnnny

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You guys aren't wrong.

I'm not a fan of CNN but they do bring home the bacon so that's something. They must have a good marketing team because they are on TV in a lot of countries.

Me personally I'm thinking of paying a yearly subscription at a news site for my news but I'm unsure with who id like to do that with. Everyone is biased in some way and it makes shopping around frustrating.
 

pgs

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You guys aren't wrong.

I'm not a fan of CNN but they do bring home the bacon so that's something. They must have a good marketing team because they are on TV in a lot of countries.

Me personally I'm thinking of paying a yearly subscription at a news site for my news but I'm unsure with who id like to do that with. Everyone is biased in some way and it makes shopping around frustrating.
Try Fox , watch right wing commentators skewer Democrats , change channels and watch left wing commentators skewer Republicans. You will find the truth somewhere in the middle .
 

spilledthebeer

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what do you mean?


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POOR Johnny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


He does not know WHAT HE MEANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Consider his comment that CBC should sell its content!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


He does not realize that NOBODY WANTS CBC content!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



United States market for left wing garbage is already well supplied by CNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And Cdn content is of no interest to Europeans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


As for the Cdn news market- Cdns generlly do NOT LIKE the shameless CBC BIAS in favour of LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


CBC has been caught out DELIBERATELY MIS-representing so called "fair usage" rules for quoting from political commentary!!!!!!!!!


Yes- our CBC is so bigoted they will deliberately LIE and tell us they cannot show views that dissent from the LIE-beral version!!!!!!!!!






Here is an older article illustrating civil service union Hog greed and just how much support they are prepared to give to LIE-berals in exchange for gravy. With some comments of my own in brackets):

Hubert Lacroix, the president of the CBC, recently placed the future of the Canada’s national public broadcaster on the electoral map with comments aimed at sparking a renewed debate on future funding models. Lacroix disputed claims that low ratings are to blame for the CBC’s financial struggles, instead pointing to the need to consider alternative fee schemes, including new levies on Internet providers or supplementary charges on television purchases.

(So greedy CBC Hogs want to pick the pockets of other businesses in order to salvage their own suddenly shaky place on the LIE-beral gravy train! Why should internet providers be made to pay because their viewers and users have chosen to TURN OFF CBC tv and radio? And considering how widely and rapidly the CBC article mocking the LIE-beral MyDemocracy website as “a box of doughnuts” circulated- it is entirely CLEAR that Cdns will listen to CBC IF it ever finds anything else relevant to say! And that is the trouble- CBC is so busy spouting LIE-beral propaganda that it as NOTHING REAL to say!)

While disagreement over CBC funding is as old as the broadcaster itself, the more uncomfortable discussion for the CBC is its coverage of the 2015 election campaign — particularly its approach to national debates and political party advertising — which raises troubling questions about its relevance in the current media environment.

(Meaning the 2015 federal election that brought Our idiot Boy Justin to power- which featured regular media efforts to smear Conservatives and aid Our idiot Boy and his moronic minons!)

Most would agree that the CBC features an excellent group of reporters and boasts insightful analysts for its panel discussions. However, rather than working to make itself an invaluable resource for the election, the CBC has been unnecessarily restrictive in its broadcasting choices and in the use of its content.

The problem is obvious- CBC DOES NOT WANT informed voters- it wants LIE-beral voters! It jumped on the MyDemocracy website as a one off chance to temporarily show its faux impartiality- about a subject that other media was so scornful of that CBC felt compelled to jump on the band wagon in an effort to cover its own ass!)

The most puzzling decision has been its refusal to broadcast debates hosted by other organizations. The CBC may be disappointed with the debate approach adopted by the political parties in this campaign, but that does not change the sense that if the national public broadcaster does not air programs in the national public interest, it calls into question the very need for a public broadcaster. Indeed, the CBC seems to have cut its nose off to spite its face by doing its best to prove its critics right.

(CBC is being typically Hoggish in refusing to accept debate programing that it did not produce and does not approve of because it does not contain LIE-beral bias! LIE-berals consider suitable debate to be a series of easy questions lobbed gently at them so they can knock it out of the park! Real debate with actually facts is something LIE-berals increasingly SHUN! CBC recognizes- as all Hogs do- that LIE-beral victory- meaning MORE GRAVY- is also a win for CBC- thus CBC DOES NOT WANT any critical examination of LIE-beral policy- for fear of discovering the ROT at its heart!)

The CBC’s odd coverage choices are not limited to the missing debates. Its use of video clips from the debates has also been unnecessarily restrictive. For example, before analyzing the recent Munk debates on the “At Issue” panel, host Peter Mansbridge warned viewers that “we are limited with the excerpts with the amount we are allowed to show.” A similar warning preceded the discussion at other debates.

Yet the reality is that there was no need to be restrictive in the use of video clips. Canadian copyright law permits the use of copyrighted works without permission as part of the fair dealing clause. News reporting is one of the enumerated purposes and even expanded clips would easily qualify under a fair dealing analysis.

(So CBC lied about its policy of deliberately limiting public debate!)

(HEY THERE JAMES BONDO- I DO HOPE YOU HAVE READ AND UNDERSTOOD about using news clips and such AS THIS DOES MAKE YOU LOOK A FOOL!!!!! And it works for print media as well so long as the real author is given full credit as I always DO! And there is a further issue I am careful with- and that is NOT to put words into the mouth of another writer- it is for this reason that I always make it known that my comments are in brackets when I add words to an article!)

All news organizations are free to use as much of the video from debates as necessary to highlight key moments and positions of each leader. To suggest that the law creates significant limits on the ability to show debate clips is inaccurate.

In fact, the CBC’s misreading of the law is not limited to the use of clips within its news broadcasts.

Just prior to the election call, it asked YouTube and Facebook to remove a Conservative campaign advertisement that used clips from a CBC interview with Liberal leader Justin Trudeau. To support its takedown claim, the CBC argued that “no one – no individual candidate or political party, and no government, corporation or NGO – may re-use our creative and copyrighted property without our permission. This includes our brands, our talent and our content.”

That too is wrong.

(OH? MORE CBC/LIE-beral censorship and deliberate mis-representation of law and facts? And it relates to CBC being wrong about its crap on a paying site! Copyright law covering political comment on a FREE/NON profit site like this is even LOOSER! You have made yourself look foolish as usual!)

The law features important limitations on the rights of all copyright holders and all media organizations regularly rely on them in their reporting. The limits of copyright extend to campaign commercials and there is little that the CBC- or anyone else- can do about it.

With its rejection of the national debates, its limited use of debate clips and its attempts to limit re-use of its broadcast content, Canada’s national public broadcaster has marginalized itself during the election campaign at the very time that it could be demonstrating its relevance to the national political coverage.

(Worse- CBC has been caught deliberately trying to stack voter choice! Just as Our idiot Boy is trying to take over and paralyze our parliament with his idiot electoral reform!)

Michael Geist holds the Canada Research Chair in Internet and E-commerce Law at the University of Ottawa, Faculty of Law.

(Geist has done us a favour by illustrating the ugly bias that CBC is trying to hide!)
 

Johnnny

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what do you mean?

I just want the news without a spin.

Right now I'm looking at subscribing to the Christian Science Monitor. They have great reviews and from the articles I've read their articles are very well written. Nothing much Canadian about them but they tackle international news decently. Their views on climate change and abortion I ignore but all in all they aren't bad.
 
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Bar Sinister

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I just want the news without a spin.

Right now I'm looking at subscribing to the Christian Science Monitor. They have great reviews and from the articles I've read their articles are very well written. Nothing much Canadian about them but they tackle international news decently. Their views on climate change and abortion I ignore but all in all they aren't bad.




I used to read the Christian Science Monitor. I found it surprisingly well-balanced despite its name.
 

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marginal at best


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MARGINAL???????????????????????????????


Oh Bondo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Your sense of morality is thoroughly LIE-beral!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And thus utterly POISONED AND WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




Is it not wildly funny that our Cdn media makes such a disgusting pretense of being even handed in its reporting of political matters?

For instance, on Aug 10/2018 I waa watching Global news reporting on the job news for July and crowing that Cdn unemployment has reached a 40 year low!!!!!

But before we break out the Champagne- we should understand these are LIE-beral numbers and our media does not wish to rain on the LIE-beral parade by speaking truth and logic!!!

So what our good news amounts to is that 28,000 people LOST their decent full time jobs that they could more or less live on and pay their bills and etc- and all those jobs were replaced by 82,000 PART TIME jobs that people CANNOT live on or pay their bills with etc!!!! And the editorial writers at Global News think this is good news?

LIE-berals and their blinkered supporters do not seem to care how many Cdns are now unable to honestly support themselves! They do not care how many people have been forced into retirement whether they can afford it or not- and 56 is rather young to be judged as disposable in our society! Too many people are living on inadequate fixed incomes through no fault of their own or living beyond their savings and it is these desperate people who are leading the charge against LIE-beral electricity price gouging and the carbon crap and trade scam!

And it is these same people who are shunning LIE-beral friendly news media because of the two faced hypocritical coverage being provided!!!!!!!!!!!!

LIE-berals lament the death of newspapers- without bothering to admit that it is the barrage of LIE-beral Fake News in main stream media that is compelling people to seek information from alternative sources!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Btw you get a tax credit. Maybe you sgould decline it in order to prove your independence
Oh Hoid, you make it too easy sometimes. I guess you need me to explain the difference between an individual's tax credits and a bail-out. A tax credit for an individual is a fraction of they taxes back that they paid throughout the year. You are in fact, getting some of YOUR money back. A bail-out is when the govt takes a bunch of yours, mine and everyone else's money and it loans/gives it to a sole entity or industry.

And uh, just because your loyalty can be bought for a few hundred bucks a year doesn't mean mine can be. Don't be projecting your faults and weaknesses onto me.