The benefits of socialism.

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Venezuela's power stations explode through the night
https://www.americanthinker.com/blo...power_stations_explode_through_the_night.html

Poor citizens of Venezuela having to live in that nightmare.
Really? Walnut, when you use sarcasm it should be in purple ink as some people might be dumber than you and take it at face value. If your post was a true reflection of how you felt way it would be the vid below with the name of the country changed.
Madeleine Albright says 500,000 dead Iraqi Children was "worth it" wins Medal of Freedom

Afghanistan is the latest is how the 'West' operates when it comes to town, Libya is an example of socialism that did flourish under a 'dictator', all because the people got a few more cents per barrel of oil. Education and living conditions for all people including the 'poor' improved while military conflicts were not fought, Afghanistan is the model for that and the establishment of 'Corporate Farming' where a few people decided poppies were going to be the main industry using /manual labor' rather than 'machines'
In Central America it was the 'United Fruit Company' that was the 'Company Farm' and the Military that was protecting them from were trained at the 'School of the Americas' who were famous for producing 'death squads' who just disappeared anybody who spoke out against them. Publicly that ended in about 1960, bribes replaced bullets. The CIA war on drugs was there to increase production eoth the leaf being turned into a powder and the US was the main customer.
Cuba was slated to become the Vegas/Orgy Is. for the rich and famous of the world, they opted out and the war of sanctions began with other countries buckling in to US demands that they also obey the sanctions knowing full well it is the poorest that will suffer the most. That is where you step in an claim that is the flaw in Socialism rather that telling the truth about it being the effect of sanctions.
Be more than happy to show how those have worked since about 1930, let alone the brief periods where Iran would have followed the path Libya took rather than becoming like the KSA is like where their orders come from the World Bank. 1953 was repeated when Hugo took over as the extra money went into social programs and that is also what Cuba did even when being 'black-listed'. Afghanistan was also on the way to eliminating the 'hard-liners' until the CIA started backing them and their terrorist activities won them back what they had lost.
All so your stocks can pay you a few more pieces of silver. Company Farms are fair game as that is as racist as it gets. A Company has more rights that the people living in the area. Profits from Company Farms go to the owners who live in foreign lands, just like Company Towns work in the US.

The data for United Fruit Company and the Company Farms in South Africa would operate the same only the land was taken around the time gold and silver were found and that is written down somewhere. The numbers alone show the division of land is as unfair as it was when it was the norm in Central America. I'll save that for that existing thread and land reform will go ahead with the reaction being that tractors will denied spare parts like it happened in Cuba. This time would see Russia and China selling them the equipment so they are farming using 21st century methods rather than tilling the fields by hand.

That about sum why your sarcasm is disguised as much as possible so you joy doesn't show through as it would make you quite immoral as well as the trait being common in the small collective you belong to?
Breaking the Set's Manuel Rapalo travels to Fort Benning, GA for a massive rally aimed at shutting down the School of the Americas; a US Military training facility that is notorious for breeding some of the worst human rights violators in Latin America.
A short review of the devastating and long-term effects of US fruit companies on the economies, governments, and societies of Latin America.
 

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Really? Walnut, when you use sarcasm it should be in purple ink as some people might be dumber than you and take it at face value. If your post was a true reflection of how you felt way it would be the vid below with the name of the country changed.
Madeleine Albright says 500,000 dead Iraqi Children was "worth it" wins Medal of Freedom
Does the red means you greet the news of the hardships as a good thing, a very good thing, Walnut? I like to know what sort of critter I'm dealing with so they get the respect they deserve.
 

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Does the red means you greet the news of the hardships as a good thing, a very good thing, Walnut? I like to know what sort of critter I'm dealing with so they get the respect they deserve.
Sorry to see that theory is more fact than fiction.

It does make future posts to/about you easier to compose though. If you were half as smart as you say you are you would be ahead of the changes rather than bucking them. If it was an act that would make you low in morals but at least you can come up with 'effective plans'. Let's see if that dear can be put to rest.
 

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Morally free, the only one seems to be aware of that is you. Capitalism and Fascism are a good fit Yes?
Loretta Lynn - Coal Miner's Daughter.1971.

Living in the Industrial Revolution: The Living Conditions of the Workers

You would have made a good 'overlord' of Saudi Royal.
 

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Venezuela's power stations explode through the night
https://www.americanthinker.com/blo...power_stations_explode_through_the_night.html
Poor citizens of Venezuela having to live in that nightmare.
There is a mass exodus from Venezuela. 2 Million so far in just a couple years.

Venezuela turmoil send asylum seekers fleeing to nearby countries
The economic and political turmoil plaguing Venezuela has spurred an outflow of migrants into neighbouring countries. UNHCR protection officer Azadeh Tamjeedi joins Sophie Lui to explain the hardships everyday Venezuelans are facing at home and in the countries where they are now seeking asylum.

https://globalnews.ca/video/4423321...nd-asylum-seekers-fleeing-to-nearby-countries
 

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There is a mass exodus from Venezuela. 2 Million so far in just a couple years.

Venezuela turmoil send asylum seekers fleeing to nearby countries
The economic and political turmoil plaguing Venezuela has spurred an outflow of migrants into neighbouring countries. UNHCR protection officer Azadeh Tamjeedi joins Sophie Lui to explain the hardships everyday Venezuelans are facing at home and in the countries where they are now seeking asylum.

https://globalnews.ca/video/4423321...nd-asylum-seekers-fleeing-to-nearby-countries



Yeah, unfortunately the "poor" who voted for him didn't realize what a tyrant he is. He was smart though - have ta give 'em that. Make sure those who are uninformed are given the power to vote so they'll vote for him because he gave them the power. Now they're living a nightmare. He may not be a dictator (per Grumpy) but he is a tyrant which to me is exactly the same thing.
 

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Yeah, unfortunately the "poor" who voted for him didn't realize what a tyrant he is. He was smart though - have ta give 'em that. Make sure those who are uninformed are given the power to vote so they'll vote for him because he gave them the power. Now they're living a nightmare. He may not be a dictator (per Grumpy) but he is a tyrant which to me is exactly the same thing.
I was a card-carrying member of the NDP for a year, an active member for a few days before I decided to let my membership expire.

I liked the NDP's expressed concern for the poor though I still scratched my head at, if it really cared for the poor, why it opposed free trade tht has helped to lift millions out of poverty around the world. Anyway, I decided to look past that. i also wondered how rent ceilings help the poor in the long term if such ceilings reduce the incentive to build more housing. Yes, I already understood the laws of suply and demand and equilibrium price back then. But again, I put that aside and though I'd give the NDP a chance.

One day, I was sitting in a room with some young middle-class New Democrats. I was probably the poorest of the group financially, ironically (and you'll soon understand why I say ironically). I went there thinking we could talk about how Canada could maybe better fund UNICEF to provide more basic education for children around the world who were less fortunate than us. But no, they wanted to talk about more subsidies to university tuition fees and bus passes for students. That's when I thought, 'parlour socialists,' left, and never looked back since.
 

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Yeah, unfortunately the "poor" who voted for him didn't realize what a tyrant he is. He was smart though - have ta give 'em that. Make sure those who are uninformed are given the power to vote so they'll vote for him because he gave them the power. Now they're living a nightmare. He may not be a dictator (per Grumpy) but he is a tyrant which to me is exactly the same thing.
Really? Mind if I verify that you are on the same planet?
Libya was socialism under a Military Dictator and their lifestyle was better than it is in almost any nation around. Today it is being run the way the US prefers things, more like Haiti than Wall St. Iran under the Shaw from 1953-1979 are the tyrant years, Cuba under the US were the 'tyrant years'. Central America under Dictators that favored United Fruit over the welfare of the locals are the 'tyrant years'.

Repeat a lie often enough only works on 'the collective' and they already appear to be under a spell cast by Walnut and Pete. You must also be a fan of Albright, the wicked witch from the west.


https://venezuelablog.org/more-on-the-effects-of-targeted-sanctions/
December 12, 2014

David Smilde
Yesterday analyst James “Boz” Bosworth argued that the success of targeted sanctions on Venezuela should not be assessed by whether they strengthen or weaken President Nicolas Maduro’s government. Rather they should be judged on their effects.
The Obama administration and Congress should talk about how they will measure the effectiveness of these Venezuela sanctions. The effect that we should want to see is
1) a reduction in politically-motivated violence and
2) a reduction in political persecution against peaceful protesters and political opponents.

We should look at these metrics at the end of 2015 and judge the sanctions’ potential renewal or revision in 2016 based on whether these sanctions have had a positive or negative effect on those two specific issues and the human rights situation in Venezuela in general.
Boz’s comment is helpful in pushing the US government to define the actual goals that sanctions are intended to achieve and just how they will be measured.
However, I would take issue with two elements of Boz’s argument.
First, the argument that we should focus on the effectiveness of sanctions rather than on whether they strengthen or weaken the Maduro government, suggests that that these two factors are independent from each other. That is clearly not the case. Those of us who think targeted sanctions will be counter-productive argue precisely that they will strengthen the Maduro government in a way that will in fact worsen human rights. This is why PROVEA, Venezuela’s leading human rights group and a strong government critic has spoken out against the bill.
The issue is not so much the strength of the Maduro government per se but what kind of strength. I would be happy with a popular and strong Maduro government if that strength derived from good economic, social and political policies.
But these kind of targeted sanctions will strengthen the Maduro government in the wrong direction. They will allow it to distract attention from its poor performance. They will undermine what little diversity exists within Chavismo. They will solidify the allegiance of those officials targeted by the sanctions. They will put the opposition on the defense. And they will make regional allies even more uncritical in their support of Maduro.
All of these effects will produce a net reduction of democratic space.
Secondly, Boz’s emphasis on political violence and persecution unduly



http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-...ctions-on-venezuela-1521486225-htmlstory.html
Mar. 19, 2018, 1:21 p.m.



By Tracy Wilkinson


U.S. imposes more sanctions on Venezuela, but no oil ban





(AFP/Getty Images)

The Trump administration imposed fresh economic sanctions on the leftist government of Venezuela on Monday in a move aimed in part at stopping its use of a digital currency. However, it did not impose a long-threatened ban on the country’s oil exports.

U.S. officials say Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro’s cash-strapped government has introduced a digital currency called the petro to circumvent sanctions and to conceal how much it has bankrupted the once-thriving economy.


https://www.upi.com/US-impact-of-Venezuelan-sanctions-muted/2881521541323/





U.S. impact of Venezuelan sanctions muted

For the week ending March 9, Venezuela was the third-largest exporter of oil to the United States, behind Saudi Arabia.

March 20 (UPI) -- New U.S. sanctions on Venezuelan individuals and digital currency transactions are a largely symbolic move from the White House, a risk consultant group said.
The U.S. Treasury Department followed through on an executive order signed by President Donald Trump by targeting a digital currency designed to maneuver around existing sanctions on President Nicolas Maduro's Venezuela.
"President Maduro decimated the Venezuelan economy and spurred a humanitarian crisis," U.S. Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said in a statement. "Instead of correcting course to avoid further catastrophe, the Maduro regime is attempting to circumvent sanctions through the petro digital currency -- a ploy that Venezuela's democratically-elected National Assembly has denounced and Treasury has cautioned U.S. persons to avoid."
The executive action prohibits transactions made with the digital currency on behalf of a Venezuelan government facing increased isolation. Four current and former Venezuelan officials were also targeted for corruption.



https://venezuelanalysis.com/ANALYSIS/13529
1. Funds were frozen for the import of insulin

Ever since President Donald Trump's imposition of US financial sanctions against Venezuela in August, the Venezuelan state has confronted various difficulties trying to import medicines and foodstuffs not produced domestically. The financial blockade directly affects routine international payments for goods and services.
The Venezuelan government has repeatedly condemned this. On Sept. 7, President Nicolas Maduro denounced in the National Constituent Assembly the hold up in an international port of a cargo of over 300,000 doses of insulin, thanks to the "Donald Trump-Julio Borges pact."


2. Colombia's blockade of malaria medicine

On Nov. 3, Vice President Tareck El Aissami, denounced that Venezuela had purchased in Colombia a shipment of Primaquine, an anti-malaria medicine, but, "Once the laboratory (BSN Medical) knew the final destination was the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela's Health Ministry, it arbitrarily blocked the dispatch of this medicine on the orders of Colombia’s president.”
President Maduro confirmed this saying, "When we already had the money to buy the medicines and went to pay for them, the Colombian government forbade the sale of these anti-malaria medicines to the Venezuelan people. We will purchase them elsewhere, people in Venezuela will not lack the medicines to combat these diseases."


3. Suspension of funds for buying food

One year ago, Freddy Bernal, secretary general of the Local Production and Supply Committees (CLAPs), denounced that, already back then, Venezuela was suffering an intense blockade of food imports.
He noted that, as part of the financial war against Venezuela, international banks suspended payments to foreign suppliers for three months holding up the arrival of 29 container ships carrying supplies needed to process and produce food products in Venezuela.


4. Blocking of payments for travel by Venezuelan sports teams

But medicines and foods are not the only major expressions of the de facto blockade imposed on Venezuela's people. Sports are also affected.
President Maduro also denounced in the National Constituent Assembly that, on Sept. 6, an international bank informed the Bolivarian government that it was "impossible" to carry out payments by Venezuela to a U.S. financial institution refusing to process the transfer of US$1.5 million from the Sports Ministry to pay suppliers of airline tickets, accommodation and other needs of leading athletes in various Venezuelan sports delegations.


https://fair.org/extra/we-think-the-price-is-worth-it/
Then-Secretary of State Madeleine Albright’s quote, calmly asserting that U.S. policy objectives were worth the sacrifice of half a million Arab children, has been much quoted in the Arabic press. It’s also been cited in the United States in alternative commentary on the September 11 attacks (e.g., Alexander Cockburn, New York Press, 9/26/01).
But a Dow Jones search of mainstream news sources since September 11 turns up only one reference to the quote–in an op-ed in the Orange Country Register (9/16/01). This omission is striking, given the major role that Iraq sanctions play in the ideology of archenemy Osama bin Laden; his recruitment video features pictures of Iraqi babies wasting away from malnutrition and lack of medicine (New York Daily News, 9/28/01). The inference that Albright and the terrorists may have shared a common rationale–a belief that the deaths of thousands of innocents are a price worth paying to achieve one’s political ends–does not seem to be one that can be made in U.S. mass media.
It’s worth noting that on 60 Minutes, Albright made no attempt to deny the figure given by Stahl–a rough rendering of the preliminary estimate in a 1995 U.N. Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) report that 567,000 Iraqi children under the age of five had died as a result of the sanctions. In general, the response from government officials about the sanctions’ toll has been rather different: a barrage of equivocations, denigration of U.N. sources and implications that questioners have some ideological axe to grind (Extra!, 3-4/00).
There has also been an attempt to seize on the lowest possible numbers. In early 1998, Columbia University’s Richard Garfield published a dramatically lower estimate of 106,000 to 227,000 children under five dead due to sanctions, which was reported in many papers (e.g. New Orleans Times-Picayune, 2/15/98). Later, UNICEF came out with the first authoritative report (8/99), based on a survey of 24,000 households, suggesting that the total “excess” deaths of children under 5 was about 500,000.


I would warn you about the swamp but you seem to have settled in and look to also be quite comfortable.

‘We Think the Price Is Worth It’

Media uncurious about Iraq policy's effects--there or here

Rahul Mahajan

 

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Only the people with low IQ's or liars. You are both right. For everybody but Walnut to show that socialism when not under sanctions does work.



https://www.africanexponent.com/post/ten-reasons-libya-under-gaddafi-was-a-great-place-to-live-2746
Education and medical treatment were free

Under Gaddafi, education and health care were free for all. A response to this claim by Masareef Edareeya, a Libyan citizen claimed the quality of education and health was appalling but that does nothing to the fact that it was free. No system is perfect but most are imperfect and still expensive. Gaddafi made sure his system was subsidised and even Mercy Corps attested to the fact in its Beyond Gaddafi: Libya’s Governance Context. That is more than the so-called “democratic leaders” can say for their countries.
Newlyweds received U.S $50,000 from the government

Gaddafi’s government had legislation providing for a grant to newlyweds to buy their first apartment so as to help start a family. Claims are that the process was tedious and bureaucratic to the extent that not many people bothered to follow it through but the $50,000 was there if one followed through. Again Mercy Corps confirmed Gaddafi provided housing for newlyweds. Criticising the grant on grounds of tedious processes is a vindictive trial at attacking every good Gaddafi stood for. It is a personal attack rather than an attack on policy.
Gaddafi carried out the world’s largest irrigation project

The Gaddafi regime embarked on one of modern man’s edifices of development: the Great Man-Made River Project to make water available to the whole country. As is known, Libya is in a desert region and Gaddafi’s plan to ascertain every citizen of access was the Great Man-Made River Project.
Libya had no external debt and had reserves of $150 billion most of which were frozen globally

Libya was a well-endowed state. To put this into perspective, the self-acclaimed champion of democracy and capitalism, the USA has a debt of over $18 trillion. Libya had none. Enough said.
The price of petrol was $0,14 per litre

In 2011, Staveley Head, a UK-based provider of insurance products compiled a list of countries with the lowest petrol prices in the world. China.org.cn reported the listing which put Libya at third position with its low $0,14.
Having a home was considered a human right

Gaddafi’s Green Book categorically stated, “The house is a basic need of both the individual and the family, therefore it should not be owned by others.” The Green Book was Gaddafi’s bible of political philosophy and had first been published in 1975. He vowed that he would not secure a house for his own parents until every citizen had one.
Gender equality actually a reality

Women in Libya were free to work and dress as they liked, subject to family constraints. The “dictator” did not impose any particular repressive canon on women and considering the sensitivities of the Arab community to gender roles, this was a big feat. Universal access to primary education was achieved in a relatively short space of time under Gaddafi.
The Human Development Index was better than two-thirds of the countries reported on

The Human Development Report has been published since 1990 and it is in the report that the HDI is found. The last time the report was released with Gaddafi in power, Libya was ranked 53 of 163 countries with comparable data. The HDI of Arab states was 0,641 while Libya’s was 0,760. Libya was therefore better off than most Arab States. The HDI provides a composite measure of health, education and income. Does being placed above the Arab States average mean all was rosy? By no means! It simply means there were worse countries that the Western “whistle-blowers” did not “rescue”. In 2009, Libya was reported to be on track to achieve the Millennium Development Goals by 2015.
People had enough food

This does not need to be qualified. The Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) confirmed that undernourishment was less than 5% with a daily calorie intake of 3144. This was one “oppressor” whose subjects had enough. With the Great Man-Made River Project, Gaddafi was securing an even brighter agricultural future to feed his nation. Pessimists can be claimed he was feeding citizens for the slaughter.
Privatization of all Libyan oil to every citizen

On 21 February 2011, Gaddafi launched a programme to privatize all Libyan oil to every citizen of Libya. This would initially provide $21,000 to every citizen from a total of $32 billion in 2011 and effectively lead to the dissolution of the ministries of health, education and others to eliminate corruption, theft of oil by foreign companies and to decentralise power.


Walnut wants to make money for doing nothing.
http://patriotrising.com/central-banks-enrich-a-select-few-at-the-expense-of-many/
The message unanimously churned out by politicians, central bankers, and ‘mainstream’ economists is that central banks are there for the ‘greater good’. They provide the economy with sufficient money and credit, and they fight inflation, thereby supporting output and employment growth. What is more, central banks, are supposedly in a position to effectively fend off or at least mitigate financial and economic crises. However, unfortunately, nothing could be further from the truth.
Throughout history, central banks have been created, first and foremost, to fill governments’ coffers. To increase the king’s or elected government’s financial means through an inflationary scheme – usually too elaborate and too treacherous for most people to see through. Central banks are instrumental for putting the ruler — or the ruling class — into a position where they can plunder the people on a grand scale and, by way of redistributing the loot, making a growing number of people financially and socially dependent on it.
To that end, central banks have been assigned the monopoly of money production. This has made it possible to replace commodities, or “natural money” with unbacked paper or fiat money. Central banks provide commercial banks with fiat central bank money, and commercial banks are free to pyramid a multiple of fiat commercial bank money on top of it. This is what monetary experts typically call a “fractional reserve banking system,” which is a genuinely inflationary scheme.
 

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I heard you the first time, it are that long for that reason. Did you forget you had made that post? That is not a good sign.
 

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Reading is good, you should try it sometime. Socialism works when Bankers are sidelined. Your lies are fully exposed and all you can do is troll and hope nobody notices what a liar you are and what a lie capitalism is.
For your review, feel free to comment on the points.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/libya-ten-things-about-gaddafi-they-dont-want-you-to-know/5414289

1. In Libya a home is considered a natural human right
In Gaddafi’s Green Book it states: ”The house is a basic need of both the individual and the family, therefore it should not be owned by others”. Gaddafi’s Green Book is the formal leader’s political philosophy, it was first published in 1975 and was intended reading for all Libyans even being included in the national curriculum.


2. Education and medical treatment were all free
Under Gaddafi, Libya could boast one of the best healthcare services in the Middle East and Africa. Also if a Libyan citizen could not access the desired educational course or correct medical treatment in Libya they were funded to go abroad.

3. Gaddafi carried out the world’s largest irrigation project
The largest irrigation system in the world also known as the great manmade river was designed to make water readily available to all Libyan’s across the entire country. It was funded by the Gaddafi government and it said that Gaddafi himself called it ”the eighth wonder of the world”.

4. It was free to start a farming business
If any Libyan wanted to start a farm they were given a house, farm land and live stock and seeds all free of charge.


5. A bursary was given to mothers with newborn babies
When a Libyan woman gave birth she was given 5000 (US dollars) for herself and the child.


6. Electricity was free
Electricity was free in Libya meaning absolutely no electric bills!


7. Cheap petrol
During Gaddafi’s reign the price of petrol in Libya was as low as 0.14 (US dollars) per litre.


8. Gaddafi raised the level of education
Before Gaddafi only 25% of Libyans were literate. This figure was brought up to 87% with 25% earning university degrees.


9. Libya had It’s own state bank
Libya had its own State bank, which provided loans to citizens at zero percent interest by law and they had no external debt.


10. The gold dinar
Before the fall of Tripoli and his untimely demise, Gaddafi was trying to introduce a single African currency linked to gold. Following in the foot steps of the late great pioneer Marcus Garvey who first coined the term ”United States of Africa”. Gaddafi wanted to introduce and only trade in the African gold Dinar – a move which would have thrown the world economy into chaos.