Manafort, Gates charged with conspiracy against US

Hoid

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manafort is so ****ed

Let's see if Trump panics in some whacko mad, wee hours tweet and pardons Manafort before too much evidence is presented.
he can't pardon him until he's convicted - and they won't even get into the collusion thing in this first trial/

this trial will just put him away for life on tax and bank fraud
 

Decapoda

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manafort is so ****ed


he can't pardon him until he's convicted - and they won't even get into the collusion thing in this first trial/

this trial will just put him away for life on tax and bank fraud

It may not be so bad for him...as long as he "sings or composes". After all, this isn't really about Manafort in the bigger scheme..

Dershowitz: Mueller squeezing Manafort to get him to sing or compose against Trump

Renowned legal scholar Alan Dershowitz argued on Wednesday that Special Counsel Robert Mueller is squeezing former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort in hopes of making him “sing” or even “compose” against President Donald Trump.

The legal expert went on to explain that is why he and other civil libertarians oppose the technique of squeezing witnesses by indicting them for unrelated crimes.

He later emphasized the danger of a witness composing a tall tale to secure a more advantageous plea deal.

“The fear is not only that he’ll sing, but that he might compose,” Dershowitz stated. “That he might make things up or exaggerate, because we know witnesses understand, the better the story, the better the deal.”
 

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How did Mueller miss all of Manafort's alleged crimes since most of the alleged crimes occurred while Mueller was head of the FBI? Was Mueller paid off or was he just inept?
 

Hoid

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Manafort will be going to jail for a long time. hopefully forever.

I sincerely doubt he is going to opt for sentencing without first exploring a plea bargain.
 

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Suddenly they lose the map with all the Black Prison sites they run, who is going to believe that lie??
 

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This is what replaced the 'soap operas' of the recent past. The constant drama is the biggest clue. Bad acting runs a close 2nd. The audience seems to be just as clueless so some things never change. They will eat up whatever is being served, no matter how much it resembles vomit.
 

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Hoid

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Melania and Baron are being given better treatment than any other First Family I can think of.

Crying about them being mistreated is ridiculous.
 

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Seriously, you cannot expect much from liberals. They are clueless, classless, hypocrites, rude, they are often racist and bigots.
 

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Manafort will be going to jail for a long time. hopefully forever.

I sincerely doubt he is going to opt for sentencing without first exploring a plea bargain.

I don't think he will be going anywhere close to jail after they put Rosenstein on as a witness and finish questioning why he exonerated Manafort while he investigated him when he was a prosecutor the whole case will fall apart.
 

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Charges against Manafort in this trial

False tax returns - 5 counts

Failure to report foreign banks accounts - 4 counts

Loans from Citizen bank - 4 counts - related to false claims made to secure a loan -

Loan from Banc of California -2 counts - similar to above

Loans from Federal Savings bank - 4 counts as above
 

Decapoda

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Charges against Manafort in this trial

False tax returns - 5 counts

Failure to report foreign banks accounts - 4 counts

Loans from Citizen bank - 4 counts - related to false claims made to secure a loan -

Loan from Banc of California -2 counts - similar to above

Loans from Federal Savings bank - 4 counts as above

What...no Russian collusion charges? Treason charges?

From the link I provided above...

(Dershowitz) went on to argue why Mueller should never have been appointed.

“A special counsel has to produce results, unlike a normal U.S. attorney,” Dershowitz said. “If an normal U.S. attorney investigates a case and there’s nothing there, it just goes away.”

“But if a special counsel is appointed and he’s given tens of millions dollars and a large staff and comes up with nothing, he’s failed,” the lawyer added.

In May, U.S. District Court Judge T.S. Ellis III raised the issue of Mueller’s team indicting Manafort for crimes unrelated to the Russian investigation in hopes of getting him to “sing” against Trump.

“You don’t really care about Mr. Manafort,” the judge charged. “You really care about what information Mr. Manafort can give you to lead you to Mr. Trump and an impeachment, or whatever.”