Horwath Fires Shots at Ford: No Plan is 'insulting to voters'

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Horwath says Ford’s lack of a platform is ‘insulting to voters’

Doug Ford is trying to pull a fast one on Ontarians by stalling the release of a Progressive Conservative platform for the June 7 election, warns NDP Leader Andrea Horwath.

In a shot against her main rival, Horwath on Tuesday lambasted Ford for failing to unveil a campaign manifesto.

“Not only is it shameful that they haven’t put a platform out, but it’s insulting to voters,” the NDP leader said in Toronto.

“Folks are already voting in the advance polls. There’s nine days left till Election Day,” she said.

“Mr. Ford, somebody who talks a great game around respecting the taxpayer, is really being very disrespectful to voters.”

The rookie PC leader has repeatedly promised to reveal a “fully costed platform,” but Conservative sources told the Star that nothing has yet been set in stone.

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada...ack-of-a-platform-is-insulting-to-voters.html
 

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It was Horvath's weak leadership that saddled Ontario with another Term of Wynne. If the NDP were to win, it will be very much like the Bob Rae victory. A government inheriting a mess while trying to spend their way out.
 

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I cannot off hand think of anyone I would less want in charge of my money than Doug Ford.

If I wanted someone to host a sports call in show on the radio he might be the guy.
 

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‘It’s a promise that someone else pays for’: NDP draws business ire with call for three weeks’ vacation after one year

TORONTO — In the Ontario election’s ongoing war of voter inducements, the NDP added another sweetener Tuesday, unveiling its promise to require at least three weeks of vacation for all full-time employees.
The policy would make Ontario just the second province to oblige businesses to provide more than two weeks off for employees after one year.
New Democrat Leader Andrea Horwath — who polls suggest is at least tied for the lead heading into next Thursday’s vote — called it a recipe for “balanced life.”
The business community responded with a heavy sigh, as the prospect of a labour-oriented NDP government comes closer to reality.
Giving workers more time off is a laudable goal, employer groups say, but an extra week of mandatory holiday could be the final straw after a string of labour costs imposed by the current Liberal government — coupled with billions in business taxes and other new expenses pledged by the NDP.
Already in place are a 21-per-cent hike in the minimum wage, more vacation time and new emergency days off.
“It is just one more way that employers in this province will find themselves in a precarious situation,” said Karl Baldauf, an Ontario Chamber of Commerce vice president. “I would really begin to question what we are going to be doing to the health of Ontario’s economy, and economic prosperity more generally.”
Karl Baldauf, vice-president of policy and government relations at the Ontario Chamber of Commerce, makes a presentation on the Ontario government’s proposed workplace reforms at a Greater Sudbury Chamber of Commerce luncheon in Sudbury, Ont. on Friday September 8, 2017.
The vacation pledge was included in the platform document the NDP released last month, but has drawn little attention until now. It is in some ways typical of an election campaign in which parties have competed to offer an array of people-friendly benefits, including lavish new spending programs, tax cuts or both.
The Liberal government introduced legislation last year that put Ontario in line with most other provinces by mandating three weeks paid holiday after five years of service. Only Saskatchewan requires three weeks after just a year, according to an Ontario government report released last spring.
“We hear too many stories of families who are not having enough time to have a balanced life,” said Horwath Tuesday. “With three weeks vacation after a year, families are going to have more time to spend together.”
Mandating the extra week after only a year is particularly important in today’s less predictable labour market, where many people never work five years for one employer, argued Chris Buckley, president of the Ontario Federation of Labour.
And it benefits both workers and their bosses, he said.
“Having time away from work and quality time with loved ones is really, really important to one’s health,” said Buckley. “(And) a healthy worker is a productive worker.”
In and of itself, the change might not have a huge impact on employers, said Julie Kwiecinski, Ontario director of the Canadian Federation of Independent Business.
But it comes in the wake of the Liberals’ Bill 148 last year, which increased the minimum wage from $11.60 to $14 on Jan. 1; requires a further jump to $15 next January; mandated more vacation after five years; and gave workers a right to two emergency leave days, she noted.
“You have your small-business well that is basically being tapped dry. It’s a promise that someone else pays for,” said Kwiecinski. “All these things keep adding up. What will be the straw that breaks the camel’s back?”
Meanwhile, the NDP platform would impose other new burdens on the business community, as well, argues Baldauf.

He notes that a slate of tax increases would take more than $2 billion a year on average from companies. And a promised dental-care program would require businesses that don’t have dental plans to set them up, an estimated $900-million yearly cost.
 

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‘It’s a promise that someone else pays for’: NDP draws business ire with call for three weeks’ vacation after one year

TORONTO — In the Ontario election’s ongoing war of voter inducements, the NDP added another sweetener Tuesday, unveiling its promise to require at least three weeks of vacation for all full-time employees.
The policy would make Ontario just the second province to oblige businesses to provide more than two weeks off for employees after one year.
New Democrat Leader Andrea Horwath — who polls suggest is at least tied for the lead heading into next Thursday’s vote — called it a recipe for “balanced life.”
The business community responded with a heavy sigh, as the prospect of a labour-oriented NDP government comes closer to reality.
Giving workers more time off is a laudable goal, employer groups say, but an extra week of mandatory holiday could be the final straw after a string of labour costs imposed by the current Liberal government — coupled with billions in business taxes and other new expenses pledged by the NDP.
Already in place are a 21-per-cent hike in the minimum wage, more vacation time and new emergency days off.
“It is just one more way that employers in this province will find themselves in a precarious situation,” said Karl Baldauf, an Ontario Chamber of Commerce vice president. “I would really begin to question what we are going to be doing to the health of Ontario’s economy, and economic prosperity more generally.”
Karl Baldauf, vice-president of policy and government relations at the Ontario Chamber of Commerce, makes a presentation on the Ontario government’s proposed workplace reforms at a Greater Sudbury Chamber of Commerce luncheon in Sudbury, Ont. on Friday September 8, 2017.
The vacation pledge was included in the platform document the NDP released last month, but has drawn little attention until now. It is in some ways typical of an election campaign in which parties have competed to offer an array of people-friendly benefits, including lavish new spending programs, tax cuts or both.
The Liberal government introduced legislation last year that put Ontario in line with most other provinces by mandating three weeks paid holiday after five years of service. Only Saskatchewan requires three weeks after just a year, according to an Ontario government report released last spring.
“We hear too many stories of families who are not having enough time to have a balanced life,” said Horwath Tuesday. “With three weeks vacation after a year, families are going to have more time to spend together.”
Mandating the extra week after only a year is particularly important in today’s less predictable labour market, where many people never work five years for one employer, argued Chris Buckley, president of the Ontario Federation of Labour.
And it benefits both workers and their bosses, he said.
“Having time away from work and quality time with loved ones is really, really important to one’s health,” said Buckley. “(And) a healthy worker is a productive worker.”
In and of itself, the change might not have a huge impact on employers, said Julie Kwiecinski, Ontario director of the Canadian Federation of Independent Business.
But it comes in the wake of the Liberals’ Bill 148 last year, which increased the minimum wage from $11.60 to $14 on Jan. 1; requires a further jump to $15 next January; mandated more vacation after five years; and gave workers a right to two emergency leave days, she noted.
“You have your small-business well that is basically being tapped dry. It’s a promise that someone else pays for,” said Kwiecinski. “All these things keep adding up. What will be the straw that breaks the camel’s back?”
Meanwhile, the NDP platform would impose other new burdens on the business community, as well, argues Baldauf.

He notes that a slate of tax increases would take more than $2 billion a year on average from companies. And a promised dental-care program would require businesses that don’t have dental plans to set them up, an estimated $900-million yearly cost.




Ford has no plan the idiots whine!



Simply saying NO IS A PLAN!


Saying NO to more gravy for Hogs who already get well paid!


Saying No to insane pension IOU`s that LIE-berals have promised to Hogs!



Saying NO to partisan advertising that LIE-berals are so fond of!


Saying NO to buying more snow plow equipment for LIE-beral pals!


Saying No to more LIE-beral asphalt paving scandals!


Saying No to Metrolinx Hog who have not built anything of significance though they have squandered millions on grand palns dfor stuff we cannot afford to build!


Saying NO to performance bonuses for MTHC slum lords!


Saying No to poverty pimps who want to round up hundreds of thousands of illegals swarming across our borders in numbers so huge it even embarrasses LIE-berals and forcrs them to LIE to us about the true numbers!


Ford has LOTS of plans- but NONE of them include MORE GRAVY for Hogs - so the Pigs at the trough socrn Ford plans as no plans!


Our Hogs are blinded by gravy!
 

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NDP Hydro plan criticized from all sides

Andrea Horwath's surging support in the latest polls is bringing scrutiny to her New Democrats' election promises, including a pledge to re-nationalize Hydro One, the province's giant utility partially privatized by the governing Liberals to raise money for infrastructure projects.
The Ontario NDP leader has said the move would help cut electricity bills, which have more than doubled in the past decade.
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But some experts say moving the utility into the public sector's hands could be costly and it wouldn't automatically reduce electricity rates by a significant amount.
"This seems more like a knee-jerk reaction to something that a lot of people didn't like when it happened," said Warren Mabee, director of the Queen's University Institute for Energy and Environmental Policy.
The benefit of regaining complete ownership of Hydro One is not as simple as putting the privatization genie back in the bottle, he said.
Under Horwath's plan, an NDP government would buy back 313 million publicly traded shares of Hydro One not held by the government for between $3.3 billion and $4.4 billion using the annual dividend of less than $300 million.
Experts say the party could be underestimating the real cost by several billions given the shares' current trading price of about $19.50 and a possible 30 per cent takeover premium shareholders would likely expect.
For decades, the utility formerly known as Ontario Hydro, was publicly owned until Conservative and Liberal governments took steps towards privatization.
Returning to public ownership doesn't make sense amid a paradigm shift that has seen power generation become more local and consumers increasingly use rooftop solar and other means to generate more of their electricity needs, said Mabee.
"I think that trying to put back together those old big, basically government-controlled entities and expecting them to provide innovative new solutions when the landscape is changing so dramatically is probably not the right way forward," he said.
"I'm not saying that they're wrong to do this but I don't understand their broader strategy and how this ultimately is going to deliver value back to the taxpayers above and beyond what we're already getting because we still own a chunk of it."
Hydro One was partially privatized in November 2015, and by December 2017, the province had sold off 53 per cent of its stake.
The government said the privatization would raise $9 billion to fund transit and infrastructure projects, but the decision was met with harsh criticism not only from the opposition parties, but also the province's financial watchdog, who said funding those projects through traditional debt would have save the province $1.8 billion.
Faced with growing public anger, the Liberals offered province-wide rebates of 25 per cent on all electricity bills by extending the time to amortize the increases, which in the long run will end up costing more.
The Liberals, who polls suggest are stuck in third place — way behind the NDP and the Tories — have said Horwath's hydro plan would use over $6.5 billion in money earmarked for health care, education, and transit investments, being used to buy back shares of Hydro One.
University of Waterloo professor Jatin Nathwani described the NDP proposal as putting Humpty Dumpty back together again.
"To argue that somehow bringing it back under government control magically everything will be fine is an open question," he said in an interview.
The Liberals made a number of poor decisions over the past decade but the $50 billion in investments made under its watch have refurbished a system in need of repair, Nathwani added.
Partially privatizing Hydro One has generated lots of private capital required to upgrade the electrical system that the provincial economy relies upon, added Adam Fremeth, associate professor of business, economics and public policy at Western University.
There's a lot of managerial discipline that often comes from privately held, publicly traded corporations needing to respond to shareholders, he added. Customer service and reliability has improved with improper billing decreased since the utility was partially privatized, said Fremeth.
A smarter move by the NDP would be just buying another four per cent of shares to gain majority control, which would require the renegotiation of the shareholder agreement, said Nathwani.
"That's probably a cheaper way and the optics may be right to say we are in control and allow the company to be run on semi-private principles to attract capital."

Oh yeah that will reduce the power bills /sarcasm off
 

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All the Big 3 have no appeal to me in this election so I'm casting my vote for the Libratarians.

Wynne has to go, Ford hasn't convinced me he has a plan and the NDP are only proving to me that they are a bunch of maroons.
 

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All the Big 3 have no appeal to me in this election so I'm casting my vote for the Libratarians.

Wynne has to go, Ford hasn't convinced me he has a plan and the NDP are only proving to me that they are a bunch of maroons.


Libratarians? I'm voting for the Librarians.
 

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Darn lie briar ians.

Brown was wondering if you all miss him yet...and democracy too.
 

mentalfloss

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Wake up conbots.


Doug Ford's plan is 'furthest away' from balanced budget

In detail, Mofatt predicts that Andrea Horwath’s NDP government would have the lowest deficits, at $6.4 billion in their third year and $5 billion in their fourth year. The Liberals would run deficits of $6.5 billion in their third year and $5.6 billion in their fourth year.

Ford’s PC government is the costliest plan, Mofatt’s research predicts, with deficits of $6.9 billion in the third year and $7.6 billion in the fourth year.

“Right now I’m projecting the Tory platform is associated with the largest deficits, which is interesting given Ford’s discussion about balancing the budget. Right now we’re showing that he’s in fact the furthest away from doing so,” Mofatt said.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/polit...d-budget-independent-economist-says-1.3952848
 

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No evidence of collusion is insulting to voters. Especially when all the evidence indicates the accusers are guilty.

...and then there is the liberal/democrat spy approach to politics by accusation...

THAT IS INSULTING TO VOTERS.
 

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Huh - so Ford has no plan but his plan would be the "costliest". Kool!! How did he manage to do that?


Just askin'
 

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Ford needs people out there voting out of spite and hate and fear.

That is the Trump advantage.
 

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Ford needs people out there voting out of spite and hate and fear.

That is the Trump advantage.


LIE-berals be panicking! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And NDPers aint happy to have their anti Semite views and hostility to Cdn soldiers discussed in public!


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And NDPers DO NOT want to discuss why the brother of federal NDP leader Jagmeet Singh was carrying that sign that said "F+ck the police" since it begs the question about how hostile NDPers are to police and the rule of law!


The NDP relationship to rule of law is a BIG question mark since Jagmeet Singh has supported members of the community who glorify Sikh terrorists!


Jagmeet Singh seems to have a very limited understanding that if he is elected- it will NOT make him popular to show govt support for assorted terrorist groups- Singh seems entirely too comfortable with Muslim radicals!



And NDPers do not like the public reaction to their promise NOT to use back to work legislation on striking workers!


NDPers are oblivious to the democratic history that dictates that a business that holds a monopoly is in need of careful govt regulation- and yet NDPers see no difference between public sector unions and private free market business! Such hypocrisy is DANGEROUS!
 

mentalfloss

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No evidence of collusion is insulting to voters. Especially when all the evidence indicates the accusers are guilty.

...and then there is the liberal/democrat spy approach to politics by accusation...

THAT IS INSULTING TO VOTERS.

Doug Ford: 'The Budget Will Balance Itself'

Conbots cheer.

Huh - so Ford has no plan but his plan would be the "costliest". Kool!! How did he manage to do that?


Just askin'


They call this illustrious missing part: revenue.


Conbots man. You guys are just as dumb as Trumptards.