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[Walter]

Jimmy Kimmel Thinks School Attacks Don’t Happen Where There Are ‘Real, Sensible Gun Laws’ -- But China And Reality Beg To Differ
https://townhall.com/columnists/sco...-but-china-and-reality-beg-to-differ-n2482628

 

[Hoid]

Jimmy Kimmel Thinks School Attacks Don’t Happen Where There Are ‘Real, Sensible Gun Laws’ -- But China And Reality Beg To Differ
https://townhall.com/columnists/sco...-but-china-and-reality-beg-to-differ-n2482628

Norway has had a school shooting - therefore good gun laws do not work.

America has had 41 of them this year alone.

**** you're stupid.

 

[Jinentonix]

Norway has had a school shooting - therefore good gun laws do not work.

America has had 41 of them this year alone.

**** you're stupid.

Speaking of being f*cking stupid, the article referred to school attacks, not just school shootings. In fact, if you actually bothered to read the article instead of rushing to prove how f*cking clueless you are, the Chinese are just as worried about the safety of their schools as Americans are about theirs and it's got dick all to do with guns.
Maybe pull your head out of your ass once in a while and breathe the free air.

 

[Colpy]

And another dumb response from our resident moron. Keep it up sleepy.




Until yours.




Right - so once again you admit gun ownership in the US is out of control. When a society cannot regulate a "tool" that is regularly misused it is a sick society. But that is the sort of world you support don't you?

Where did I say "gun ownership in the US is out of control"?


Oh, right, I said

What you do not seem to understand, or care about, is the fact that any attempt to seize arms from the American people would create a bloodbath that would make the school shootings of the last 30 years look like a tea party in comparison.

You missed the point, Dimwit.


Revolution is what is supposed to happen when the state knowingly, purposely, and deliberately destroys the Bill of Rights.


That is the entire reason the Second Amendment exists.


It works as a deterent, btw, which is why your dreams of universal gun confiscation will never come to pass.

 

[DaSleeper]

Colpy.....Reality checks do no compute on know-it-alls such as B.S.


B.T.W. his initials are certainly appropriate to the gist of his posts

 

[Hoid]

Gun amnesty's seem to work.

 

[DaSleeper]

Gun amnesty is for a situation such as this..
I still own some firearms even though I don't hunt anymore and I still have a valid PAL which I have applied for renewal this year.
Should I kick the bucket in the next five years, and since my children seem to have no interest in firearm, my wife has instructions to call the O.P.P. to come and collect them without having to worry about getting charged, even if there is no "OFFICIAL" amnesty!
That is just a sales pitch, so snowflakes can get a fuzzy feeling!

 

[Colpy]

Gun amnesty's seem to work.

Yeah.....if you want to collect late Grandpa's old guns from Grandma, they work very well.




And despite the way I framed that, I have no problem with gun amnesties. I think there should be a permanent national amnesty for people that have second thoughts on retaining illegal guns, or people that just want to rid themselves of unused firearms.


But I do not think they have any effect whatsoever on guns held and used by the criminal element.

 

[JamesBondo]

Gun amnesty is for a situation such as this..
I still own some firearms even though I don't hunt anymore and I still have a valid PAL which I have applied for renewal this year.
Should I kick the bucket in the next five years, and since my children seem to have no interest in firearm, my wife has instructions to call the O.P.P. to come and collect them without having to worry about getting charged, even if there is no "OFFICIAL" amnesty!
That is just a sales pitch, so snowflakes can get a fuzzy feeling!

There is some sort of executor of estate exemption

 

[Hoid]

Yeah.....if you want to collect late Grandpa's old guns from Grandma, they work very well.




And despite the way I framed that, I have no problem with gun amnesties. I think there should be a permanent national amnesty for people that have second thoughts on retaining illegal guns, or people that just want to rid themselves of unused firearms.


But I do not think they have any effect whatsoever on guns held and used by the criminal element.

Indeed they are very good at getting old guns out of circulation.

BTW Texas governor Mayor Quimby - I men Greg Abbott has dropped the shotgun raffle from his webpage.

https://www.chron.com/news/politics...-shotgun-giveaway-after-Santa-Fe-12931120.php

 

[Bar Sinister]

Norway has had a school shooting - therefore good gun laws do not work.

America has had 41 of them this year alone.

**** you're stupid.

Of course they work. Norway has had only one mass shooting. The US has a couple a week; so many in fact that most news outlets don't even bother to headline them unless a school is involved or the number exceeds a half dozen. BTW despite the horrific mass shooting in Norway in 2011 Norway still had a lower rate of gun deaths in that year than the USA.

Where did I say "gun ownership in the US is out of control"?


Oh, right, I said





You missed the point, Dimwit.


Revolution is what is supposed to happen when the state knowingly, purposely, and deliberately destroys the Bill of Rights.


That is the entire reason the Second Amendment exists.


It works as a deterent, btw, which is why your dreams of universal gun confiscation will never come to pass.

Let's face it Colpy, gun nuts like you are directly responsible for the lack of sensible gun regulations in the US and to a certain extent in Canada. As such you and others like you are at least partially responsible for the excessive number of gun deaths in both nations. The truth is you value gun ownership over human life and that is a fact that is becoming ever more difficult to deny.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

But I do not think they have any effect whatsoever on guns held and used by the criminal element.

I think your dichotomy of "good, honest folk" and "hardened professional criminals" is inaccurate.

Certainly mass shooters rarely have criminal records, and when they do, it's usually minor stuff.

And more than half of the individual gun homicides committed each year are committed by people who aren't "professional" or "career" criminals.

What's the solution? I don't know. But I know for a fact that if you don't have an accurate read on the problem, any solution you come up with will be wrong.

 

[Colpy]

Let's face it Colpy, gun nuts like you are directly responsible for the lack of sensible gun regulations in the US and to a certain extent in Canada. As such you and others like you are at least partially responsible for the excessive number of gun deaths in both nations. The truth is you value gun ownership over human life and that is a fact that is becoming ever more difficult to deny.

Are you trying to be funny?


First of all, Canada has extremely strict gun laws. Go try and buy one legally..........just a single shot .22.


Again and again I've said I have no problem with training, background checks, and subsequent licensing. Much more than what is required in most of the USA.


How the hell am I responsible for US gun deaths? Are you off your meds?


Less than 250 gun murders in a year in Canada.


40,000 deaths from tobacco, 4,000 of them from second hand smoke.


You beginning to get a sense of proportion now?


BTW, I can still walk into the store across the street and buy a pack of smokes.........

 

[Cliffy]

 

[Colpy]

I think your dichotomy of "good, honest folk" and "hardened professional criminals" is inaccurate.

Certainly mass shooters rarely have criminal records, and when they do, it's usually minor stuff.

And more than half of the individual gun homicides committed each year are committed by people who aren't "professional" or "career" criminals.

What's the solution? I don't know. But I know for a fact that if you don't have an accurate read on the problem, any solution you come up with will be wrong.

I agree. On the division of people into "good, honest folk" and "hardened professional criminals".


I am not so black and white as you think, believe me.


The point is there is not a damned thing you can do against mass shooters in the area of firearms availability without destroying the constitution in the USA, or without severely punishing the millions of good people owning guns in Canada...........as the only thing that might make weapons less available is complete bans.


Likewise domestic shooters. Especially in Canada, where we are background checked every day, and you have to get your spouse's permission to own a gun.


The only fair attitude is "every dog gets his bite".

 

[Danbones]

I think your dichotomy of "good, honest folk" and "hardened professional criminals" is inaccurate.

Certainly mass shooters rarely have criminal records, and when they do, it's usually minor stuff.

And more than half of the individual gun homicides committed each year are committed by people who aren't "professional" or "career" criminals.

What's the solution? I don't know. But I know for a fact that if you don't have an accurate read on the problem, any solution you come up with will be wrong.

Many of these people were, like the kid in florida, reported to the police in avalanches prior to the shooting it is claimed (not be some ACTUAL witnesses of course) he is to have done.

So, I guess you guys sure KNOW what you are TALKING about and Must be be correct.



Mass shootings: Why do authorities keep missing the warning signs?

Why do we keep making the same mistakes?

The local sheriff’s office was first warned two years ago that Cruz was thinking of shooting up the school, and the FBI twice received specific warnings that it failed to follow up or pass on.

Such failures, however, are hardly unique to the Parkland case.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/mar/06/mass-shootings-fbi-law-enforcement-prevention

Because some Snazicommie effetards want to take everybody's guns, freedoms, property, speech, and children away, and so crime will go UP, like it has in London, where the next thing to go will be the butter knives. That's why.

Because the queen is an Nazicommie too.

 

[Jinentonix]

Let's face it Colpy, gun nuts like you are directly responsible for the lack of sensible gun regulations in the US and to a certain extent in Canada. As such you and others like you are at least partially responsible for the excessive number of gun deaths in both nations. The truth is you value gun ownership over human life and that is a fact that is becoming ever more difficult to deny.

Oh holy f*ck, nice self-righteous bullshit. Excessive number of gun deaths? So it IS the method and not the actual deaths that bother you and your ilk.
Canada 2015- 179 firearm related homicides, half of which were gang related. Remove the gang violence and you're looking at around 80 homicides by firearm for the year.
Same year there were 1858 deaths from MVA's most of which were caused by some form of distracted/impaired driving. Yet YOU and others LIKE YOU refuse to take responsibility for the truly excessive number of deaths from MVAs. The truth is, you value your mobility and connectivity over human life and that is a fact, period!
Get off your f*cking high horse. You don't like guns, fine, don't own any then. Just spare us your faux moral outrage and idiotic rhetoric.


Oh yeah, and what? No thread on the Marseille mass shooting? Gosh, have we become that desensitized? :roll:

 

[Bar Sinister]

Are you trying to be funny?


First of all, Canada has extremely strict gun laws. Go try and buy one legally..........just a single shot .22.


Again and again I've said I have no problem with training, background checks, and subsequent licensing. Much more than what is required in most of the USA.


How the hell am I responsible for US gun deaths? Are you off your meds?


Less than 250 gun murders in a year in Canada.


40,000 deaths from tobacco, 4,000 of them from second hand smoke.


You beginning to get a sense of proportion now?


BTW, I can still walk into the store across the street and buy a pack of smokes.........

Let me see, weren't you the one who started the gun control is completely useless thread? I would say that was an effort to loosen up restrictions on firearms.



Canada has strict gun laws? I took the firearms acquisition course. I passed it with a mark of 100%, but it was pretty much a paper test. There was no effort to make sure that I could actually load and fire a weapon or take care of it properly or even a check to see if I had proper storage for my weapons.



And your reference to tobacco is irrelevant. People die in lots of ways. That doesn't make a single gun death acceptable. And BTW isn't your reference to the low number of gun deaths actually a denial of your "Gun control is completely useless thread?"

Oh holy f*ck, nice self-righteous bullshit. Excessive number of gun deaths? So it IS the method and not the actual deaths that bother you and your ilk.
Canada 2015- 179 firearm related homicides, half of which were gang related. Remove the gang violence and you're looking at around 80 homicides by firearm for the year.
Same year there were 1858 deaths from MVA's most of which were caused by some form of distracted/impaired driving. Yet YOU and others LIKE YOU refuse to take responsibility for the truly excessive number of deaths from MVAs. The truth is, you value your mobility and connectivity over human life and that is a fact, period!
Get off your f*cking high horse. You don't like guns, fine, don't own any then. Just spare us your faux moral outrage and idiotic rhetoric.


Oh yeah, and what? No thread on the Marseille mass shooting? Gosh, have we become that desensitized? :roll:

Read my reply to Colpy. Deaths from other sources are not relevant to the thread. What you are basically saying is that deaths from cars are bad, and therefore that justifies deaths from guns. It doesn't.

 

[Danbones]

Fact checkers caught spreading fake news about ANTIFA!

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Read my reply to Colpy. Deaths from other sources are not relevant to the thread. What you are basically saying is that deaths from cars are bad, and therefore that justifies deaths from guns. It doesn't.

Yes, but that is what you get when you take the guns away from the people. You sound like you are looking forward to that.

Gun free London just passed New York ( I know you already saw that fact cited and are ignoring it because it is reality, lol )

I think it's because you secretly have a priestly butter knife fetish, and can't wait till you elites are the only ones allowed to own them...

One of our comrades has made those Trump supporting dogs pay': Left-wing 'Melbourne Antifa' extremists condemned for praising Las Vegas shooter after he shot dead 59 people

Left-wing extremists Melbourne Antifa praised the Las Vegas gunman

Post said Stephen Paddock, 64, had made 'fascist Trump supporting dogs pay'

Since deleted post has been widely condemned under screen shots of message

Paddock killed 59 people and 527 more were injured in worst ever US shooting
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ifa-extremists-praises-Las-Vegas-shooter.html

Norway has had a school shooting - therefore good gun laws do not work.

America has had 41 of them this year alone.

**** you're stupid.

Quit doing the dope that makes people go nuts. They don't seem to be helping you get reality straight, do they?

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Read my reply to Colpy. Deaths from other sources are not relevant to the thread. What you are basically saying is that deaths from cars are bad, and therefore that justifies deaths from guns. It doesn't.

It's the gun nuts' usual technique. If you continue on this thread, you'll hear lots of references to ladders. They think they're being clever.

Of course, their alleged logic is that if the object of your obsession has killed fewer people than some object that's legal, it should be legal. By that "logic," private ownership of nuclear warheads should be legal.

Let me know if you want to have an intelligent conversation about guns. I support the right to own guns (and own several myself), but I don't engage in the usual NRA horse shit.