Trans Mountain ‘pipeline is going to get built’: Trudeau dismisses B.C.’s bitumen ban

JLM

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Where is this Cliffy? and what did it leak from? It's in the third world because of lack of equipment for cleanup so do you have more info on this I would like to know

If people want to post stuff to make a point, they should post FACTS including the five Ws.............what, where, when, why and who............otherwise it should be regarded as bull shit!
 

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As far as I know it is in south America. What difference does it make? It isn't photoshopped. An oil spill is an oil spill.

Here are a bunch of photos from the Valdez oil spill:
cleaning up the Valdez oil spill - Google Search

It makes a big difference what ERP are they using? Was it a pipeline, holding tank, Rail tanker, or truck and which oil/pipeline company? Was safety protocol followed and is it as stringent as Canada's? What does the Valdez have to do with this leak?
 

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Of course. We will to have a new Crown Corporation making it impossible to stop if KM steps aside.

So how is it going Brian?
 

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'What kind of help do you need?' Canadian banks eye Indigenous investment in pipeline expansion


Mike LeBourdais, Chief of the Whispering Pines First Nation, says financial institutions are reaching out to
First Nations bands asking "what kind of help do you need."Photo by: CBC

With the Trans Mountain Kinder Morgan expansion project up in the air, Canadian banks are approaching Indigenous leaders in B.C. with offers to buy equity in the project, according to a First Nation chief in B.C.'s Interior.

Financial institutions are reaching out to First Nations bands, asking "what kind of help do you need," said Mike LeBourdais, Chief of the Whispering Pines First Nation.

The proposed Trans Mountain pipeline expansion would run through his reserve near Clinton.

Having shares in the pipeline could give First Nations communities a stake in the success in the project, and give the federal government some leverage in its pro-pipeline stance, despite opposition from several Indigenous groups living on or near the coast.

That will be the focus of a meeting between First Nations and the federal government later this month.

Federal Finance Minister Bill Morneau confirmed his department is "engaging with Indigenous peoples" on the matter, but wouldn't confirm whether it will help or collaborate with First Nations to seek equity in the Trans Mountain project.

First Nations groups would not disclose which banks had reached out to them, or what types of negotiations were underway.

More: 'What kind of help do you need?' Canadian banks eye Indigenous investment in pipeline expansion | CBC News

Great news for those forward-thinking First Nations communities.
 

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That will put the Dippers in an uncomfortable position. I doubt any of them have the balls to peotest an Indian project. Just wait until the building trades pony up some funding in exchange for it being a union project. We will all be rolling in dough.
 

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That will put the Dippers in an uncomfortable position. I doubt any of them have the balls to peotest an Indian project. Just wait until the building trades pony up some funding in exchange for it being a union project. We will all be rolling in dough.

I am so glad to see these bands getting onside with the project, ts. Their communities stand to reap substantial benefits by investing in the line and I am truly happy to see them stand up against others of their brethren who put ideology above the good of their people.
 

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'What kind of help do you need?' Canadian banks eye Indigenous investment in pipeline expansion


Mike LeBourdais, Chief of the Whispering Pines First Nation, says financial institutions are reaching out to
First Nations bands asking "what kind of help do you need."Photo by: CBC

With the Trans Mountain Kinder Morgan expansion project up in the air, Canadian banks are approaching Indigenous leaders in B.C. with offers to buy equity in the project, according to a First Nation chief in B.C.'s Interior.

Financial institutions are reaching out to First Nations bands, asking "what kind of help do you need," said Mike LeBourdais, Chief of the Whispering Pines First Nation.

The proposed Trans Mountain pipeline expansion would run through his reserve near Clinton.

Having shares in the pipeline could give First Nations communities a stake in the success in the project, and give the federal government some leverage in its pro-pipeline stance, despite opposition from several Indigenous groups living on or near the coast.

That will be the focus of a meeting between First Nations and the federal government later this month.

Federal Finance Minister Bill Morneau confirmed his department is "engaging with Indigenous peoples" on the matter, but wouldn't confirm whether it will help or collaborate with First Nations to seek equity in the Trans Mountain project.

First Nations groups would not disclose which banks had reached out to them, or what types of negotiations were underway.

More: 'What kind of help do you need?' Canadian banks eye Indigenous investment in pipeline expansion | CBC News

Great news for those forward-thinking First Nations communities.

Hi Mowich - I was just looking at the maps showing the pipeline expansion (http://www.neb-one.gc.ca/pplctnflng/mjrpp/trnsmntnxpnsn/mps-eng.html) but couldn't find one for any area near Clinton. Perhaps this a recent development since the maps were made?
 

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Hi Mowich - I was just looking at the maps showing the pipeline expansion (NEB - Detailed Route maps for Trans Mountain Expansion Project review) but couldn't find one for any area near Clinton. Perhaps this a recent development since the maps were made?

Haven't had any luck so far finding a map of the reserve lands, JLM but I would gather from the article that the pipeline would fall within their boundary. I did find this description of their economic investments thus far.

Community Description

The Whispering Pines/Clinton Indian Band, also called the Pellt'iq't First Nation is a member of the Secwepemc (Shuswap) Nation, located in the Central Interior region of the Canadian province of British Columbia. Its main Indian reserve is located at Clinton, British Columbia.

Treaty or Tribal Association

Shuswap Nation Tribal Council

Economic Development Background

Whispering Pines' economic development activities lie in ranching, forestry, and extensive sport and hospitality services. They are overseen by the Chief and Council.

Summary of Economic Development Agreements, Community Businesses and Joint Ventures

Economic activities include cattle and hay ranching. The centre features world-class facilities, including: a 5/8 mile motocross track (In partnership with the Greater Kamloops Motor Cross Association); rodeo grounds; racetrack; baseball diamonds; concessions; a playground; and convention/camping/RV facilities including 60 camping units and washroom/shower facilities. We promote packages available to suit all needs of recreational activities and special events. The Whispering Pines band is involved in an Economic Development Agreement with the Provincial Government.

http://bcafn.ca/community/whispering-pinesclinton/


 

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596,000 litres of sewage released into Halifax harbour after MacKay Bridge break-in

A break-in at the MacKay Bridge led to 596,000 litres of screened sewage being released into the Halifax Harbour on Saturday, the Halifax Regional Municipality's water utility said in an email on Wednesday.
Details on the amount of sewage released into the harbour came days after it was first reported that a break-in at the MacKay Bridge had resulted in the release of screened sewage.
According to officials with Halifax Harbour Bridges (HHB), at approximately 3:40 a.m. on Saturday there was a power outage on the bridge, with their intrusion alarms and security cameras indicating there was someone on the catwalk located under the bridge. The person was able to access an electrical panel and turned off breakers which impacted cameras and navigational lights on the bridge.
Halifax Water says one of their repeaters was affected as a result of the outage and although power was restored by 7:30 a.m., it caused sewage to be released into the harbour.
Nova Scotia’s environment department told Global News that the release occurred at the Ferguson Street, King Street, Park Avenue, Lyle Street and Melva Street stations.
James Campbell, a spokesperson for the utility, says that their system worked as planned.
"When communication through the repeater is lost to a wastewater pumping station (5 stations in this case) it continues to operate, stops sending flows to the wastewater treatment plant and sends screened overflows to the harbour. This is a system safety feature," he wrote in an email on Thursday.
Campbell says that a similar release of screened materials, which has "floatables" removed, would have occurred during heavy rain.
"For perspective, in 2017 Halifax Water treated 72,325,581,000 (billion) litres of wastewater. The screened overflow Saturday saw 596,000 litres released. That is 0.00082%," he wrote.
When questioned why the public was not informed about the release, Campbell said that the release is no different from any other screened sewage and that staff at Halifax Water were not aware that the power outage was the result of a vandal tampering with a breaker.
Campbell says that the outfall locations where the release occurred are not in locations where the public accesses the harbour but did seem to acknowledge that there was some level of risk posed by the release of screened materials.
"Whenever there is a screened overflow into the harbour we recommend not swimming for 2-3 days," Campbell wrote in an email.
"You would have to talk to someone with knowledge of wildlife about what if any effects an overflow might have [on wildlife]. For over 250 years untreated wastewater poured into Halifax Harbour. There was and is lots of wildlife on and in the harbour."
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Police response
Const. Carol McIsaac, a spokesperson with Halifax Regional Police, says that at approximately 3:53 a.m., officers received a report from Halifax Bridge Commission Patrol that they saw a man on a catwalk, tampering with equipment underneath the MacKay Bridge on the Halifax side.
As officers searched the area, the bridge patrol advised police that the man was seen on camera exiting at the Dartmouth side of the bridge.
"Patrol members, along with a K-9 team conducted a search in Dartmouth but the man was not located," said McIsaac on Thursday.
Two days later, Halifax Water told police that an electrical panel was tampered with causing screened sewage to be released. Investigators believe the man the Halifax Bridge Patrol witnessed under the MacKay Bridge is the person responsible.
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Halifax police continue to investigate.

Not a big deal, no need to warn anyone, same as anytime that we release screened sewage, just don't swim for 2-3 days and it will be OK.
 

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Another attempt to somehow equate oil with sewage?

Who knows?