Mass extiction of Mohawl children

Murphy

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Cliffy hasn't been getting the attention he craves. Poof! A silly, BS thread appears. That shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone. Of course, Flossy has to add his 2 cents worth. I can't wait until he goes to camp this summer. :lol:
 

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One bone - part of a knee. After reading the entire document Cliffy, that is all the solid factual evidence unearthed to date. ONE bone. There is not one whit of factual evidence supporting the claim that the army slaughtered a bunch of children. None. As for all the testimony of those who say they were there, I am sorry but memory is a faulty vehicle upon which to base a claim of fact.

I have a lot of sympathy for certain members of the native community but it is stories like these that do more harm than good for their cause.
 

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I just finished reading this article it is very interesting but it using hearsay as fact even their own evidence cannot be verified, and they are using the fact that it can't be verified as a fact that it is evidence.

Welcome to ITCCS.ORG and The International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State

If this is verified as true and not just a couple of graves it is very serious and deserves a full investigation.

Much of the land claims is based on hearsay as well.It plays well with the lefty's who are always looking for an underdawg to extract money for.

Why would the army do such a thing? Why haven't the soldiers that supposedly "did it" said anything? Do you honestly think that such a criminal act would have remained secret?

It was war time. All the soldiers were immediately put on a ship for Europe which was promptly sunk so they could not reveal their dark sekret.
 

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It sounds like fake news in support of the rabid effort to criminalize the Residential School System as a program of real, as well as cultural, genocide.

It was actually, with the exception of some abuse which occurs in all institutions, a constructive program that offered native children literacy, good health care and nourishment, conversion (if they chose) and a respite from the desperate poverty, alcoholism, violence, sexual abuse, animism and hopelessness they faced on reserves or lives of itinerant trapping. Usually it provided structure and education for 6 months of the year, the rest being spent with their families.

It seems it'd be easy to prove a case of genocide. Open the graves, and find the evidence of gunshot wounds on the skeletons. The fact they haven't indicates they know is likely a more benign explanation.. such as an outbreak of disease (like Spanish flu). But this is really about MONEY and land claims and relies on a uniform characterization of White Christian Guilt against these 'noble savages'.

The most persistent form of 'ethic cleansing' in Americas aboriginal history came prior to the appearance of the Conquistadors. By way of viscious tribal wars and massacres, infant mortality, human sacrifice, disease and starvation that was endemic to hunter gatherer cultures of any ethnicity.

Only gullible, incompetent little twits like Justin fall for this nonsense.
 
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Here is a new angle for Residential school payouts "Student Bullying" I must say I never saw that coming

Ottawa looks to settle with residential school survivors who were abused by other students

The Canadian government is pursuing settlements with former residential school residents who suffered student-on-student abuse and were left out of the compensation process, CBC News has confirmed.

Crown-Indigenous Affairs Minister Carolyn Bennett will formally announce Tuesday that the government will set up a separate stream outside of the Independent Assessment Process (IAP) to help those former students receive compensation.
The payouts will go to former students who were abused by fellow students, and whose claims were rejected or did not receive fair compensation. A government source said the government has identified at least 240 former students who could now be eligible for compensation. Their compensation will be paid out of federal money already budgeted for the residential school file; the department isn't sure yet how much the settlements will cost.
The Toronto Star first reported the news Monday night.
According to government figures, the tribunal-like model of the IAP has resolved nearly 98 per cent of claims, but some cases don't fall within its parameters. The government isn't throwing out the old process, said the source, but it is acknowledging it wasn't fair to all residents.
The IAP also has been criticized for the high bar of proof claimants had to meet when it came to student-on-student abuse. Claimants had to prove that they reported the abuse to a school staff member, or that a staff member should have known it was happening.
The government source said the settlements will cover previously filed cases, not new ones, and won't introduce any new evidence.

'Tragic and unacceptable'

"The abuse suffered by former residential school students is tragic and unacceptable," said Bennett in a statement seen by CBC News.
"We will continue to work with survivors and their representatives to bring closure to this dark and tragic chapter in Canadian history as we continue on the shared path of reconciliation with Indigenous peoples."
Senator Murray Sinclair, the former chairman of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission, has called student-on-student abuse one of the untold stories of Canada's residential school legacy.
He told the Canadian Press back in May that sex was often used as a tool of violence between the school's students, resulting in an intergenerational legacy of trauma that continues to haunt families to this day.
"Many people didn't want to talk to [the commission] about student-on-student abuse because they were often still living in the community with their abuser," he said.
Bennett's announcement comes the same day survivors of the St. Anne's residential school in Fort Albany, Ont. are expected back in court.
The survivors have described the school as a "veritable house of horrors where, for generations, indigenous children suffered unspeakable physical and sexual abuses" — but they have been denied compensation because of a lack of documentation.
The survivors are still trying to obtain documents they believe were withheld during the Independent Assessment Process.
The plaintiffs want Ontario's top court to order a review of all St. Anne's compensation claims adjudicated before the government disclosed thousands of documents from a 1990s criminal investigation by provincial police.
It is estimated that about 150,000 Aboriginal, Inuit and Métis children across Canada were removed from their communities and forced to attend residential schools.
 

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Student-on-student abuse eh. Well then, if natives are being compensated for such behavior, I do believe it is time that any and all Canadians who also suffered abuse at the hands of their peers to petition the government for compensation. Such tragedies should not go unaddressed. What say you, Twin Moose?
 

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Student-on-student abuse eh. Well then, if natives are being compensated for such behavior, I do believe it is time that any and all Canadians who also suffered abuse at the hands of their peers to petition the government for compensation. Such tragedies should not go unaddressed. What say you, Twin Moose?

Sorry I don't have time to chat I'm online looking for the application to fill out on this I should be set for life
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I think it is ridiculous bullying always have, is, and will happen I would think that this money should come from FN persons responsible for the abuse. But wait the 60's scoop is coming and I should be in line for this too, my 15 year old paternal mother wasn't able to care for me and put me up for adoption. ;)
 

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Student-on-student abuse eh. Well then, if natives are being compensated for such behavior, I do believe it is time that any and all Canadians who also suffered abuse at the hands of their peers to petition the government for compensation. Such tragedies should not go unaddressed. What say you, Twin Moose?

Trudeau will just say they are "strapped" for cash.
 

Mowich

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Careful there bub... That's starting to sound awfully racist

Hmmn.....it's racist if other Canadians regardless of ethnic origin appeal for compensation but the same rule does not apply to FNs? Something about that really bothers me.

I've been doing some research looking for answers to questions that have arisen around so many of the claims being made by a certain segment of the FN population. I now have copies of most of the commissions, Royal or not, tribunals, special committees as well as Supreme court decisions. It's been an interesting and most enlightening journey and along the way I came across an article in the NP which mentions a book by Australian author and historian Keith Windsch written back in 2002 and titled 'The Fabrication of Aboriginal History. Keith is both hero and villain in Australia - condemned by Aborigines and their supporters for his 'racist' statements and writings, in spite of the fact that they are historically accurate. On the other side, he is applauded for unveiling the truth behind a notorious case of alleged child abduction by the Australian government. The case became a cause cé·lè·bre in the country resulting in many books being written one of which became mandatory reading in Australian schools. It was eventually made into a film called 'The Rabbit Fence.' When I first watched the movie I had no reason to disbelieve any part of the narrative. I now have many.

There are parallels to be drawn in what Keith has to say about how Canada and Australia are being duped in regards to some Aboriginal issues. And we just happen to have our own child abduction story in the form of The Secret Path which is now mandatory reading in classrooms all across our country. The problem is this, there are serious flaws if not outright falsehoods in the story of Chanie Wenjack not the least of which is that the school he attended was run by Presbyterians so that kind of puts the claim that he was sexually abused at the school by a Catholic priest in a different light. Fact is, Charlie didn't even go to the school mentioned in the story.

Certain voices among the FNs condemn Canadian history calling it distorted and racist, full of fabrications and lies about the true stories of aboriginals in our country. Given the chance to highlight and bring to national attention a story of their own, they might have chosen one that was factual.

Guilt over Aboriginals can lead to teaching children untruths. It’s happening in Canada | National Post
 

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It sounds like fake news in support of the rabid effort to criminalize the Residential School System as a program of real, as well as cultural, genocide.

It was actually, with the exception of some abuse which occurs in all institutions, a constructive program that offered native children literacy, good health care and nourishment, conversion (if they chose) and a respite from the desperate poverty, alcoholism, violence, sexual abuse, animism and hopelessness they faced on reserves or lives of itinerant trapping. Usually it provided structure and education for 6 months of the year, the rest being spent with their families.

It seems it'd be easy to prove a case of genocide. Open the graves, and find the evidence of gunshot wounds on the skeletons. The fact they haven't indicates they know is likely a more benign explanation.. such as an outbreak of disease (like Spanish flu). But this is really about MONEY and land claims and relies on a uniform characterization of White Christian Guilt against these 'noble savages'.

The most persistent form of 'ethic cleansing' in Americas aboriginal history came prior to the appearance of the Conquistadors. By way of viscious tribal wars and massacres, infant mortality, human sacrifice, disease and starvation that was endemic to hunter gatherer cultures of any ethnicity.

Only gullible, incompetent little twits like Justin fall for this nonsense.

Ah, yes, the old "Indians made war on each other, and therefore deserved everything they got" excuse.

Just like Britain made war, and therefore deserved the Blitz. Jews made war, and therefore deserved the Holocaust.

Student-on-student abuse eh. Well then, if natives are being compensated for such behavior, I do believe it is time that any and all Canadians who also suffered abuse at the hands of their peers to petition the government for compensation. Such tragedies should not go unaddressed. What say you, Twin Moose?

Of course you do.
 

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Jews made war, and therefore deserved the Holocaust.
Good grief, Tec.......I had no idea the Jews were warring against Germans and thus deserved all the horrors of the holocaust. Where or where did my education go wrong that I could have missed this sensational part of history.

Of course you do.
Ah, so it is only native kids who deserve to be rewarded for suffering bullying at the hands of their peers. Gotcha.
 

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Mass Execution of aboriginal Children from the Mohawk Residential School located in Ontario. They took all those children and stood them up next to a big ditch, then they shot them all and they all fell into the ditch. Some of the kids were still alive and they just poured the dirt in on top of them. Buried them alive.

Prisoners of the church. This mass murder happened in 1943 – in Brantford, Ontario, on land occupied by the Canadian Army, at its Basic Training Camp Number 20

Lorna McNaughton of Ohsweken, Ontario: is a survivor of the infamous “Mush Hole”, the Brantford Mohawk Indian residential school, run by the Church and Crown of England until 1970.

Why were these children shot?

The school was overcrowded just then. She was there, Lorna saw the army bring in all these cots for lots of new kids who showed up from all over the country. They must have just wanted to get rid of all the extra hungry mouths; it was wartime and everything was rationed. One day those new kids were in the dorms, then they were all taken out, and were never seen again.

A probable site of this mass burial of the executed children has been located, and is now under the protection and jurisdiction of the Onkwehonwe Mohawk Nation and its clan mothers.

The investigation into the Canadian Genocide continues.

The Mohawk residential school Institute, 1832-1970 – Church of England (Anglican) operated - Ontario.
— with Vera Jones and Judi Kellam.
BULLSHIT from a very sick mind.