There is so much wrong being said by both sides about the Gerald Stanley trial
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Stanley’s acquittal hinged on a claim of hangfire, an extremely rare scenario in which a cartridge discharges several seconds after it is struck by the firing pin.
Gerald Stanley’s 'magical gun’: The extremely unlikely defence that secured his acquittal
For Gerald Stanley’s version of events to make sense, two improbable things had to occur simultaneously
By Tristin Hopper
February 14, 2018
Gerald Stanley
Gerald Stanley’s 'magical gun’: The extremely unlikely defence that secured his acquittal
For Gerald Stanley’s version of events to make sense, two improbable things had to occur simultaneously
By Tristin Hopper
February 14, 2018
Gerald Stanley
The incidences of theft aren't occurring on empty land.
They are breaching the home quarter
Too bad that some of the 500 no-shows weren't able to consider the magic gun.... Bitching about it after the fact is of no use to anyone
Expert witness for the defense:
This completely supports Stanley's claim he did not fire the weapon at that moment.
'We deserve better:' Family of Colten Boushie calls for United Nations to study systemic racism in Canada
Cousin Jade Tootoosis also says government should call royal commission to eliminate racism in justice system
- Jade Tootoosis, cousin of Colten Boushie at the UN
"The acquittal was celebrated by the majority of settlers on the notion that material property is worth more than an Indigenous life," Tootoosis told the UN forum, using a term some Indigenous people use to describe non-Indigenous people who came to Canada and occupied Native lands.
"The systemic injustices, the acquittal and the decision not to appeal show that justice is not equally applied to Indigenous people in Canada."
Tootoosis called on the UN to have its special rapporteur study systemic racism against Indigenous people within the Canadian judicial and legal systems. The study must produce recommendations to protect the Indigenous families accessing these systems, she said.
"This will advance our calls on the Canadian government to establish a royal commission on the elimination of racism in the justice system," Tootoosis said.
She felt only such a commission would have the authority to address what she called "the miscarriage of justice" in her cousin's death.
'We deserve better:' Family of Colten Boushie calls for United Nations to study systemic racism in Canada | CBC News
Cousin Jade Tootoosis also says government should call royal commission to eliminate racism in justice system
- Jade Tootoosis, cousin of Colten Boushie at the UN
"The acquittal was celebrated by the majority of settlers on the notion that material property is worth more than an Indigenous life," Tootoosis told the UN forum, using a term some Indigenous people use to describe non-Indigenous people who came to Canada and occupied Native lands.
"The systemic injustices, the acquittal and the decision not to appeal show that justice is not equally applied to Indigenous people in Canada."
Tootoosis called on the UN to have its special rapporteur study systemic racism against Indigenous people within the Canadian judicial and legal systems. The study must produce recommendations to protect the Indigenous families accessing these systems, she said.
"This will advance our calls on the Canadian government to establish a royal commission on the elimination of racism in the justice system," Tootoosis said.
She felt only such a commission would have the authority to address what she called "the miscarriage of justice" in her cousin's death.
'We deserve better:' Family of Colten Boushie calls for United Nations to study systemic racism in Canada | CBC News
Here is an article illustrating what a hopeless mess LIE-berals have made of the Native Affairs Ministry. With some comments of my own in brackets):
Saskatchewan First Nation wins $4.5-million from federal government
"Mr. Cameron said he hopes an improved relationship between Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and indigenous peoples means the government will settle similar cases at a faster rate.
"Let's not waste thousands and thousands of dollars on legal fees. The decision has been made. Precedent has been set. Therefore compensate these bands a lot sooner than how long it took Beardy's and Okemasis to get a decision," he said."
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...rom-feds-over-1885-rebellion/article33438197/
(OH my, natives are not blind. They have recognized that LIE-berals are frantic to buy votes and are cashing in on every issue that LIE-berals perceive as a weakness or embarrassment. The truth is that LIE-berals would do better if they encourage natives to look to the future rather than dwell in the past!)
(One has only to look at the debacle that is the LIE-beral Inquiry into Murdered and Missing Indigenous Women to recognize the problem. It is certainly tragic that so many native women have gone missing- but it is NOT racism that has prevented killers from being caught! The lack of killers on trial is a function of the awful life natives lead- a woman lost in drug addiction and desperate for another fix and intending to obtain the funds by prostitution is often careless of her situation and thus is vulnerable- and due to her illegal addiction she will be quite discreet about her activities and social contacts- which makes her difficult to track! One has only to look at the recent drastic drop in the number of killers arrested in Toronto to recognize how difficult it can be to track a gang or people who do not want to be followed!)
(The ugly reality is that the LAST thing natives need is to be treated like badly cared for pets! They should not be showered with un-earned gifts when they bark loudly or bite the keepers ankles! Corruption is ENDEMIC on too many reserves and LIE-berals would have a much greater and more beneficial influence on native lives if they knocked off the “poor sad native victim” and started to demand that natives function efficiently for their own sakes! Where is natives find gumption and get up and go if LIE-berals perpetuate the myth of native impotence?)
(The 1885 Metis Rebellion was a foolish and irresponsible attempt by Metis and Crees to turn back time and restore about a third of North America to the political state of anarchy existed during the time of the Hudson`s Bay Company administration- which was focused ONLY on the sale of furs and trade goods- there was NO law- as Peter C. Newman chronicles in his trilogy about the Gentleman Company of Adventurers of the Hudson`s Bay! Metis leader Lois Riel was a clever man who was educated by the Jesuits in Montreal- it is just toop bad for Riel that he did not keep up with political and technical advances and ended up judged as a traitor to Canada after botching his creation of an Alberta govt- he took too long and Ottawa beat him to the punch! The Metis Rebellion was a tragic comedy of foolish errors with a large cast of foolish players and does not represent any current political reality! It certainly is Not worth e4.5 million dollars- frankly it aint even worth $4.50! The award to Saskatchewan natives is nothing more than LIE-beral habit of sucking up to whiners and buying votes!)
Yes, STB natives do need to look forward and leave the past behind and many of them have done that. It is the Jade Tootoosis types who are holding so many others back and very unfortunately getting the larger share of press coverage. The Liberals have done little but throw enormous amounts of money at commissions, tribunals and the like while little if anything has been accomplished - witness the shambles of the MMIWI.
Meanwhile in numerous reserves across this country, other forward thinking progressive FNs have taken the reins of their own destiny in their hands forging ahead with initiatives that have improved the living conditions of their people creating jobs and opportunities that have seen their communities grow and thrive. I have nothing but admiration for them especially as many also attended residential schools, were just as abused and trod upon as their more vocal brethren but chose to put it behind them in an effort to change their own circumstances. These are the people who deserve to have the Canadian media's attention but as the old saying goes 'its the squeaky wheel that gets the grease' or in the case of the Jade Tootoosis types, the whinging whining backward looking natives who chose to champion victimhood.
Meanwhile in numerous reserves across this country, other forward thinking progressive FNs have taken the reins of their own destiny in their hands forging ahead with initiatives that have improved the living conditions of their people creating jobs and opportunities that have seen their communities grow and thrive. I have nothing but admiration for them especially as many also attended residential schools, were just as abused and trod upon as their more vocal brethren but chose to put it behind them in an effort to change their own circumstances. These are the people who deserve to have the Canadian media's attention but as the old saying goes 'its the squeaky wheel that gets the grease' or in the case of the Jade Tootoosis types, the whinging whining backward looking natives who chose to champion victimhood.
Why waste time with the UN when Coulton's cousin can call....
Yes, it's the Hall of Justice and all the might of the Super Friends!!
I believe us white settlers - as certain natives continue to call us - should petition the Canadian government to hold a $50 million inquiry into why the government failed to protect all our ancestors who were slaughtered at the hands of murdering bands of savages. We can recount our oral and written histories told and passed down to us by our elders who witnessed first-hand the horrendous crimes committed against them. A cool million or two to each and every single descendant would go a long way to redressing the wrongs committed against our people.
It is more than apparent that the heirs of those whose lives were taken, their crops burned, animals slaughtered and livelihoods destroyed are more than due their time in the lime-light of such an inquiry. Tears will be shed, stories recounted and many will need safe-spaces but it will be worth the tremendous effort needed to reconcile all the harm and suffering our people endured.
TRCFWF - Truth and Reconciliation For White Folk
heavy on the /s
It is more than apparent that the heirs of those whose lives were taken, their crops burned, animals slaughtered and livelihoods destroyed are more than due their time in the lime-light of such an inquiry. Tears will be shed, stories recounted and many will need safe-spaces but it will be worth the tremendous effort needed to reconcile all the harm and suffering our people endured.
TRCFWF - Truth and Reconciliation For White Folk
heavy on the /s
Sorry- your willingness to excuse all manner of native excesses on reserves is TROUBLING! There is a certain mathematical progression involved in native life- the more integrated into white life they become- the less drugged, drunk, and ignorant they become! The Tsawassen band- living on south side of Vancouver is apparently in much better shape than the people of the reserve where Coulton Boushie lived!
Access to modern jobs in the real world- as opposed to govt sponsored make work on reserves seems to be a way to build self respect and confidence- and it seems to encourage sensible integration! WE do NOT seek to make natives into white men- but we MUST make them into efficient citizens who can manage in the real 21st century world! It is painful to see all the drunken violence and madness plaguing reserves and it is on reserves- with their endemic corruption that the worst excesses seem to take place!
Consider:
Here is an article illustrating the utterly dysfunctional life in a typical native town. With some comments of my own brackets):
6 Nunavut schools are uninsurable because of past arsons
cbc.ca By Nick Murray
Nanook School in Iqaluit's satellite community of Apex is one of six uninsurable schools in Nunavut since its value is lower than the government's $20 million deductible.
Six schools in Nunavut are uninsurable because of the territory's sky-high insurance deductible, thanks to a pair of school arsons over the past few years.
According to Nunavut's Finance Department, the lone schools in the communities of Chesterfield Inlet, Whale Cove and Resolute Bay are valued at less than the government's $20 million deductible for property insurance . Two schools in Iqaluit and the elementary school in Gjoa Haven are also uninsurable. The department said the government doesn't pay insurance premiums on those six schools.
A deductible is the amount of money that the government has to pay out of pocket before the insurance company will reimburse any remaining value of the schools.
The government's insurance deductible rose to $10 million after Cape Dorset's Peter Pitseolak School was destroyed by arson in 2016 — at the time, the school was under-insured by $17 million .
The insurance company raised the deductible again in 2017 to $20 million after Kugaardjuq School in Kugaaruk burned down .
"Any school that's been burnt, and hopefully that will never happen, will have to be replaced through our appropriations. If they're valued at under $20 million, then we have to pay for the full amount," Finance Minister David Akeeagok told CBC News in March.
(This is not the first time that arsonists have played havoc with facilities in native communities! The tv show W-5 created by Eric Malling- now deceased- made quite a stir nearly 30 years ago detailing the series of arson`s on reserves- with multiple houses going up in smoke. Malling also exposed systemic corruption on reserves- in one case natives won govt funding to build a sawmill to harvest timber from their reserve land- after the mill was built it sat un-used for years and then was burned by arsonists- without ever cutting a single piece of wood- burned along with the majority of houses on the reserve beside the mill! Insurance companies have good reason to shun policies for natives!)
(IN another case two prisoners died in jail from a fire they had deliberately set in their own cells after being arrested for being drunk and disorderly! Sadly-the jail was home built and each cell was locked with padlocks- cops did not have time to find the right keys needed to release prisoners before fire engulfed the jail! To make matters worse- news media noted that a year AFTER the inquest into the deaths of the two men had ended- a prefabricated jail that had been supplied by govt was still laying ROTTING on the dock where it had been delivered- without the band bothering to assemble it!)
"For liabilities it's huge. With the amount of incidents that's taken place, we're trying to promote that people should [refrain] from doing these unnecessary incidents."
(No kidding! It is understandable that natives might not like white people much but the ugly reality is that natives are their own worst enemies! Violence, drug abuse and corruption are endemic on reserves! To make matters worse, LIE-berals have decided that condemning the gross corruption might lose them votes so they are going out of their way to pretend nothing is wrong!)
'We need to do more': MLA
Akeeagok said the government is doing what it can to mitigate arson potential at schools across Nunavut, including closing off access under buildings and installing security cameras in every school.
Specifically in Cape Dorset, the government hired a private company to provide 24-hour security services to protect Sam Pudlat Elementary School, according to documents obtained by CBC through Access to Information.
The government hired the security company after there were five arson attempts from the time Peter Pitseolak High School burned down in September 2015, to when the tender was ordered in December 2016.
Iqaluit-Tasiluk MLA George Hickes raised the issue in the Legislature mid-March, asking Minister Akeeagok what implications there would be with the territory's insurance provider if another school goes up in flames.
Akeeagok responded that the government needs to show insurance companies it's doing a better job of protecting schools.
(Screw the hopeless pursuit of insurance for schools! Clearly the priority now is surveillance and the arrest and punishment of aspiring arsonists!)
"We need to remind all of our students and all of the public that schools, health centres, garages are all of the public's buildings, and they are there to serve the public," Akeeagok said at the time.
(This is NOT a job for LIE-berals- they are far too busy telling white people we are all systemic racists and Islamophobes! LIE-berals are buying native votes by encouraging them to think they are victims of white racists instead of simply being to often violence prone, ill educated and drug addicted, with attitude problems!)
Speaking with CBC News Monday, Hickes said there's more the government can do to prevent schools from being intentionally burned down.
"There needs to be more diligence," Hickes said, pointing to a recent arson attempt in Iqaluit, and a break-in and vandalism of a school in Baker Lake in April.
"Thankfully those people who broke into the Baker Lake school didn't start a fire ... We need to do more from a security standpoint."
Arsons have wide-reaching impact
In a statement, Nunavut's Department of Finance said it's prepared if another school were to go up in flames, but said it will put a strain on other areas of funding programs and services.
(No kidding? The repeated loss of buildings in such isolated places where everything must be flown or trucked in from suppliers usually located thousands of miles away would strain any budget- especially in a communities where unemployment is routinely over 80 percent!)
"In the event of another school fire, the GN will be able to handle the costs of rebuilding a school, but this reduces funds available for other important programs and buildings. School fires have serious impacts on the GN's overall ability to deliver the programs and services Nunavummiut expect," the department said.
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"Also of concern, another school fire would have significant negative impacts on the GN's ability to purchase affordable property insurance for schools in the future."
The department said the government sets aside a contingency fund every year in its budget — $40 million in 2017/18 — which the government uses to cover emergencies and other unforeseen events like school fires, but also to introduce or expand new programs or infrastructure needs over the year.
(The arson at northern schools is symptomatic of a much larger problem! One has only to look at northern housing stocks to see that very few have waterproof siding installed and this allows them to deteriorate swiftly from water damage! We KNOW govt ships prefab housing to reserves- with the housing arriving ready to assemble and the packing crates contain everything from concrete foundation material to roofing supplies- so WHERE is the waterproof siding? WHY is it so often NOT INSTALLED? Shall we ask if natives sold it for BEER MONEY? And the related question is this: “why do LIE-berals seem not to care about this corruption and waste”?)
Most of my ancestral history is founded in passing down the history verbally, but i can point to the etchings on the rocks in the deep of the forest where these deals were made and the agreement between all parties.
it's crystal clear once you see the markings and know the codified language elements.
Anywho, there's been lots of folk that have been taking excessive advantage of my ancestors openness and now I believe that the piper must be paid to me, as the most senior representative of The Original Nation (copyright 2018)
It's only the friends and family of Boushie that are stating that he was a victim.... No one else is
I think you misinterpreted my comments, SPB. I was not making excuses for reserves where problems exist and yes, there are some where crime, abuse and other excesses are far too common. The Red Pheasant Reserve where Colten Boushie once lived is one of them as court records show.
However, acknowledging that other reserves are not in anyway similar - are indeed quite dissimilar is IMO, important and necessary if we are to get beyond all the stereotypes attributed to FNs in our society. We give credit where it is due to all other segments of our society, it is past time we do so with the First Nations.
*Face palm*
If the police charged Stanley, what did they consider Boushie? An accomplice?
Funny thing about that band. They sold out to f-ckin' whitie and not a single member works at Tswwassen Mills but they do get a cut of PST and GST from the mall revenues.