There is so much wrong being said by both sides about the Gerald Stanley trial

Mowich

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AS for Coulton Boushie and other racists like him- they are lost in the past! Coulton Boushie is a reincarnation of Almighty Voice- the Cree dork who got killed in the 1880`s!
Colten was living on the Fort Belknap Indian Reservation in north-central Montana with his Dad and from various accounts was doing very well before he decided to move to the Red Pheasant reserve in Saskatchewan. That decision would change his life and eventually lead to his untimely and unfortunate death.
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2018/02/15/colten-boushies-father-remembers-kind-goofy-son.html

The Red Pheasant reserve has been much in the news over the years. At least four of its Chiefs have been embroiled in various criminal activities including fraud, embezzlement, driving while disqualified, convictions for unlawful guiding, drunk driving, vote buying - the list goes on and on. Stewart Baptiste was sitting in a jail cell after being charged with 3 counts of violating his parole when he learned that he had once again been chosen as Chief of the band. The current Chief Clint Wuttunee was in court on April 5 of this year facing charges of vote buying. With such upstanding examples of leadership in the community( /s) it is little wonder that the some kids on the reserve also resort to criminal activities.

Trial continues on Red Pheasant FN corruption allegations | battlefordsNOW
https://saskatoon.ctvnews.ca/red-pheasant-first-nation-chief-loses-license-1.728013
Meechance returns to court in July | Ammsa.com
Cuffs To Courts
http://prod-front4.glacier.atex.cni...al/jail-bird-leader-comes-out-ahead-1.1647410
Red Pheasant Cree Nation | Unity Stories
Men await sentencing after unexpected guilty pleas to robbery, chase | Saskatoon StarPhoenix

Meanwhile residents of the reserve are plagued with numerous problems including lack of heat, running water in their homes and open sewage on the ground. The trailer in which Colten lived in with his mother also lacked proper septic facilities leaving waste to pool on the ground beneath the structure.
“There are some people here who get overlooked because they’re not related to [council],” Elsie said. “When the Chief and council are in, they’ll give their own people stuff, but not others. [Carol] has a small family. Big families get everything.”
When asked about some of the current living conditions on the reserve, Chief Wutunee said there are residents living in homes that are condemned and those homes shouldn’t be occupied at all.
“People get desperate sometimes. When people can’t find homes in the city, they come back here and will move into a condemned home. We will tell them the homes are condemned, but they say they’ll fix them anyways, and then they come back to us and ask to be reimbursed. A lot of times we try to accommodate them, but it is tough with the [lack of government] funding.”
The Chief said many times council’s hands are tied because the majority of funding they receive for housing from the federal government goes to insuring the homes."

Red Pheasant residents frustrated with 'outrageous' living conditions | battlefordsNOW

I can only wonder how Colten's life may have turned out had he chosen to stay in Montana.
 

JLM

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Colten was living on the Fort Belknap Indian Reservation in north-central Montana with his Dad and from various accounts was doing very well before he decided to move to the Red Pheasant reserve in Saskatchewan. That decision would change his life and eventually lead to his untimely and unfortunate death.
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2018/02/15/colten-boushies-father-remembers-kind-goofy-son.html

The Red Pheasant reserve has been much in the news over the years. At least four of its Chiefs have been embroiled in various criminal activities including fraud, embezzlement, driving while disqualified, convictions for unlawful guiding, drunk driving, vote buying - the list goes on and on. The Chief said many times council’s hands are tied because the majority of funding they receive for housing from the federal government goes to insuring the homes."

Red Pheasant residents frustrated with 'outrageous' living conditions | battlefordsNOW

I can only wonder how Colten's life may have turned out had he chosen to stay in Montana.

I doesn't get any sadder than that!
 

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Colten was living on the Fort Belknap Indian Reservation in north-central Montana with his Dad and from various accounts was doing very well before he decided to move to the Red Pheasant reserve in Saskatchewan. That decision would change his life and eventually lead to his untimely and unfortunate death.
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2018/02/15/colten-boushies-father-remembers-kind-goofy-son.html

The Red Pheasant reserve has been much in the news over the years. At least four of its Chiefs have been embroiled in various criminal activities including fraud, embezzlement, driving while disqualified, convictions for unlawful guiding, drunk driving, vote buying - the list goes on and on. Stewart Baptiste was sitting in a jail cell after being charged with 3 counts of violating his parole when he learned that he had once again been chosen as Chief of the band. The current Chief Clint Wuttunee was in court on April 5 of this year facing charges of vote buying. With such upstanding examples of leadership in the community( /s) it is little wonder that the some kids on the reserve also resort to criminal activities.

Trial continues on Red Pheasant FN corruption allegations | battlefordsNOW
https://saskatoon.ctvnews.ca/red-pheasant-first-nation-chief-loses-license-1.728013
Meechance returns to court in July | Ammsa.com
Cuffs To Courts
http://prod-front4.glacier.atex.cni...al/jail-bird-leader-comes-out-ahead-1.1647410
Red Pheasant Cree Nation | Unity Stories
Men await sentencing after unexpected guilty pleas to robbery, chase | Saskatoon StarPhoenix

Meanwhile residents of the reserve are plagued with numerous problems including lack of heat, running water in their homes and open sewage on the ground. The trailer in which Colten lived in with his mother also lacked proper septic facilities leaving waste to pool on the ground beneath the structure.
“There are some people here who get overlooked because they’re not related to [council],” Elsie said. “When the Chief and council are in, they’ll give their own people stuff, but not others. [Carol] has a small family. Big families get everything.”
When asked about some of the current living conditions on the reserve, Chief Wutunee said there are residents living in homes that are condemned and those homes shouldn’t be occupied at all.
“People get desperate sometimes. When people can’t find homes in the city, they come back here and will move into a condemned home. We will tell them the homes are condemned, but they say they’ll fix them anyways, and then they come back to us and ask to be reimbursed. A lot of times we try to accommodate them, but it is tough with the [lack of government] funding.”
The Chief said many times council’s hands are tied because the majority of funding they receive for housing from the federal government goes to insuring the homes."

Red Pheasant residents frustrated with 'outrageous' living conditions | battlefordsNOW

I can only wonder how Colten's life may have turned out had he chosen to stay in Montana.
Mine turned out OK coming from Oklahoma.
 

JLM

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It certainly is. I, for one, had no idea that Pete's spelling and geography knowledge were on par with his farming and tax knowledge...and his firefighting knowledge, his climate knowledge, his First Nations knowledge, his.... well, I'm sure even someone like you gets the point

Yet, light years ahead of yours, Pete is smart, you are stooopid! :lol:
 

spilledthebeer

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Banana? You could use the potassium before you blow a gasket...or a young boy.

Here is a little reminder of how simple the REAL SOLUTIONS to native problems really are:


File this one under AMAZING! The CBC has reported the following-and I have added some comments of my own in brackets):

First Nations teen solves remote community's drinking water problems.
A 19-year-old from North Spirit Lake First Nation is the key to solving a boil water advisory in place in his community for nearly as long as he has been alive.
Jody Porter/CBC tells us that Quentin Rae, 19, tests water samples at the North Spirit Lake First Nation in his new role as water plant operator. Quentin Rae, 19, is the water plant operator in North Spirit Lake First Nation.

The remote First Nation, about 800 kilometers northwest of Thunder Bay, Ont., has been under a boil water advisory for 14 years.

Now, a unique program spearheaded by the Northern Chiefs Council (Keewatinook Okimakanak), is allowing people like Quentin Rae to take the initiative and the responsibility for providing clean water in their own communities.

"I have to take care of the plant, make sure chlorine gets in the water to clean the bacteria," said Rae with a smile during his first week on the job at the end of April.
Quentin Rae, 19, files the water monitoring reports at the North Spirit Lake First Nation water plant. "I just graduated last year and they gave me the job."

The high school diploma is the prerequisite for the training provided by Northern Chiefs Council that will provide Rae with his operator certificate. Once the water plant in North Spirit Lake has a certified operator, the boil water advisory can be lifted.

But the program goes beyond the training.
'Think about a 19-year-old like Quentin having the safety of every member of this community on him,' says public works manager Barry Strachan. We can't let him do that alone, we need to support him ' says public works manager Barry Strachan. You think about a 19-year-old like Quentin having the safety of every member of this community on him — we can't let him do that alone, we need to support him."

The support comes in the form of a high-tech monitoring system installed in five remote First Nations in 2015. It provides Strachan up-to-the-second updates on water quality, sent to his office in Dryden, Ont. He can then help the local technicians work through the problem over the phone.

"We want the community to own and fix the problems," Strachan said.

"The best way to build the confidence in their own ability to run these systems is to let them do it and support them while they are."

Strachan admits First Nations need sound infrastructure in place first, before the monitoring and training system will work. The program has already resulted in removing boil water advisories in three other northern Ontario First Nations.

Meanwhile, community leaders in North Spirit Lake are pleased to be able to offer new opportunities to the young people.

"That young fella, he just graduated from Grade 12 and we gave him an opportunity and he jumped at it," said deputy chief Donald Campbell.

"I think he's very excited and he'll be a good asset for our community as he grows and learns."

Rae expects to complete his training for his certificate in June.

"It feels all right," he said. "I'm happy."

But Rae laughs when asked whether he sees the opportunity as a "job for life."

"I don't know," he says. "It's my first job ever."

(I have to say it’s a remarkable CBC report-just imagine-a young fellow from a reserve actually graduated from high school and then took advantage of the FREE training offered by govt and now he has the skills needed to help his community! AND HE has a steady job out of it too!!!! Who would have imagined such a happy outcome simply from going to school and gaining a skill?)

(Life on the average First Nation Reserve is so aweful that govt cannot find qualified white people to go to such places and operate the water treatment plants. And of course only 25 percent of natives actually graduate from high school and very few of them go on to post secondary education so the number of qualified natives is disturbingly low, especially when drugs and alcohol take their toll on `worker` attitude!)

(Add in endemic corruption on many reserves where money intended to keep water plants running is often syphoned off for stupid reasons like sending native hockey teams to tournaments in places like California or for sending native groups on Caribbean cruises; then add INSANE salaries for band councils-in one New Brunswick case a band chief was being paid Five Hundred Thousand dollars per year to over see a band of less than 500 people and it quickly becomes obvious why there is no money for clean water on so many reserves!)

(And sadly, even when there IS clean water, it is often not used. On the same day that CBC reported the good news about Quentin Rae, CBC ALSO ran a report out of the very troubled Kashchewan reserve- it seems a number of kids have been air lifted out to hospitals in the south to treat horrible skin rashes. I am not a doctor but the last time I saw a rash like that shown on the face of the girl in the news report, that rash was on the body of a NEGLECTED boy who I KNEW had not been supplied with clean clothes or a hot bath in months!)

(I have to ask if anything really works on the average native reserve. Especially since govt has AGAIN airlifted 300 people out of Kashechewan due to the YEARLY flooding! And govt may have to do as it did last year and airlift as many as 1200 people out due to the flooding-which occurs EVERY YEAR! WHY build a town in a place guaranteed to FLOOD EVERY YEAR?)

(What IS the cost to fly 500 or a 1000 people plus their clothing and pets out and back every year? A 1000 Km trip to some place like Thunder Bay? And then put them up in hotels? Why not fly them out and LEAVE THEM OUT-some place high and dry? Or should we assume this is a native revenge thing-making a MESS that white people get to pay for? No wonder CBC thinks its newsworthy when a young guy like Quentin Rae shows responsibility and common sense! Its so utterly out of character for so many Reserve inhabitants and the loonie LIE-beral loving leftists egging them on!)

(The worst of it is the reserve houses flood so often BECAUSE govt let the natives build the houses-and they took a little short cut that NO WHITE MAN would be allowed! When white men build in such a place-so close to sea level-they START by bulldozing up a nice HIGH pad of sand and gravel and build the house on top of that-out of reach of yearly flood waters. Native house builders did not bother with such an elementary step and the houses now flood every spring due to their elevation-which happens to be an average of 6ft above Hudson Bay sea level-according to an old Toronto (Red) Star report; so every spring one little ice jam in the river floods huge chunks of reserve land and houses! Oh well, its only white mans money that is paying for all this.....and it makes for nice photo ops for Our Brainless Boy who enjoys taking `selfies` with the victimized natives.)

(It was Jean Chretien as Dept if Indian Affairs minister under LIE-beral leader Pierre Trudope who first encouraged a bunch of drugged, drunken, emotionally depressed, chronically un-employed sots living on remote reserves that they were `first nations`.....and given the array of problems endemic to a typical reserve one ought to say `First Nation` with a sneer. LIE-berals are responsible for this mess-encouraging natives that we can and will pay them whatever they want whenever they desire it. But isn’t it nice that some natives (like Quentin Rae) understand reality and scorn the siren song of `free` money from LIE-berals! AND take responsibility for their lives!)

(It is entirely obvious that natives on reserves need some sort of help but what they DON’T need is grossly misplaced sympathy from air head social workers; nor do they need any encouragement to continue down their current corrupt and drunken and too often suicidal path!)
 

petros

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Here is a little reminder of how simple the REAL SOLUTIONS to native problems really are:


File this one under AMAZING! The CBC has reported the following-and I have added some comments of my own in brackets):

First Nations teen solves remote community's drinking water problems.
A 19-year-old from North Spirit Lake First Nation is the key to solving a boil water advisory in place in his community for nearly as long as he has been alive.
Jody Porter/CBC tells us that Quentin Rae, 19, tests water samples at the North Spirit Lake First Nation in his new role as water plant operator. Quentin Rae, 19, is the water plant operator in North Spirit Lake First Nation.

The remote First Nation, about 800 kilometers northwest of Thunder Bay, Ont., has been under a boil water advisory for 14 years.

Now, a unique program spearheaded by the Northern Chiefs Council (Keewatinook Okimakanak), is allowing people like Quentin Rae to take the initiative and the responsibility for providing clean water in their own communities.

"I have to take care of the plant, make sure chlorine gets in the water to clean the bacteria," said Rae with a smile during his first week on the job at the end of April.
Quentin Rae, 19, files the water monitoring reports at the North Spirit Lake First Nation water plant. "I just graduated last year and they gave me the job."

The high school diploma is the prerequisite for the training provided by Northern Chiefs Council that will provide Rae with his operator certificate. Once the water plant in North Spirit Lake has a certified operator, the boil water advisory can be lifted.

But the program goes beyond the training.
'Think about a 19-year-old like Quentin having the safety of every member of this community on him,' says public works manager Barry Strachan. We can't let him do that alone, we need to support him ' says public works manager Barry Strachan. You think about a 19-year-old like Quentin having the safety of every member of this community on him — we can't let him do that alone, we need to support him."

The support comes in the form of a high-tech monitoring system installed in five remote First Nations in 2015. It provides Strachan up-to-the-second updates on water quality, sent to his office in Dryden, Ont. He can then help the local technicians work through the problem over the phone.

"We want the community to own and fix the problems," Strachan said.

"The best way to build the confidence in their own ability to run these systems is to let them do it and support them while they are."

Strachan admits First Nations need sound infrastructure in place first, before the monitoring and training system will work. The program has already resulted in removing boil water advisories in three other northern Ontario First Nations.

Meanwhile, community leaders in North Spirit Lake are pleased to be able to offer new opportunities to the young people.

"That young fella, he just graduated from Grade 12 and we gave him an opportunity and he jumped at it," said deputy chief Donald Campbell.

"I think he's very excited and he'll be a good asset for our community as he grows and learns."

Rae expects to complete his training for his certificate in June.

"It feels all right," he said. "I'm happy."

But Rae laughs when asked whether he sees the opportunity as a "job for life."

"I don't know," he says. "It's my first job ever."

(I have to say it’s a remarkable CBC report-just imagine-a young fellow from a reserve actually graduated from high school and then took advantage of the FREE training offered by govt and now he has the skills needed to help his community! AND HE has a steady job out of it too!!!! Who would have imagined such a happy outcome simply from going to school and gaining a skill?)

(Life on the average First Nation Reserve is so aweful that govt cannot find qualified white people to go to such places and operate the water treatment plants. And of course only 25 percent of natives actually graduate from high school and very few of them go on to post secondary education so the number of qualified natives is disturbingly low, especially when drugs and alcohol take their toll on `worker` attitude!)

(Add in endemic corruption on many reserves where money intended to keep water plants running is often syphoned off for stupid reasons like sending native hockey teams to tournaments in places like California or for sending native groups on Caribbean cruises; then add INSANE salaries for band councils-in one New Brunswick case a band chief was being paid Five Hundred Thousand dollars per year to over see a band of less than 500 people and it quickly becomes obvious why there is no money for clean water on so many reserves!)

(And sadly, even when there IS clean water, it is often not used. On the same day that CBC reported the good news about Quentin Rae, CBC ALSO ran a report out of the very troubled Kashchewan reserve- it seems a number of kids have been air lifted out to hospitals in the south to treat horrible skin rashes. I am not a doctor but the last time I saw a rash like that shown on the face of the girl in the news report, that rash was on the body of a NEGLECTED boy who I KNEW had not been supplied with clean clothes or a hot bath in months!)

(I have to ask if anything really works on the average native reserve. Especially since govt has AGAIN airlifted 300 people out of Kashechewan due to the YEARLY flooding! And govt may have to do as it did last year and airlift as many as 1200 people out due to the flooding-which occurs EVERY YEAR! WHY build a town in a place guaranteed to FLOOD EVERY YEAR?)

(What IS the cost to fly 500 or a 1000 people plus their clothing and pets out and back every year? A 1000 Km trip to some place like Thunder Bay? And then put them up in hotels? Why not fly them out and LEAVE THEM OUT-some place high and dry? Or should we assume this is a native revenge thing-making a MESS that white people get to pay for? No wonder CBC thinks its newsworthy when a young guy like Quentin Rae shows responsibility and common sense! Its so utterly out of character for so many Reserve inhabitants and the loonie LIE-beral loving leftists egging them on!)

(The worst of it is the reserve houses flood so often BECAUSE govt let the natives build the houses-and they took a little short cut that NO WHITE MAN would be allowed! When white men build in such a place-so close to sea level-they START by bulldozing up a nice HIGH pad of sand and gravel and build the house on top of that-out of reach of yearly flood waters. Native house builders did not bother with such an elementary step and the houses now flood every spring due to their elevation-which happens to be an average of 6ft above Hudson Bay sea level-according to an old Toronto (Red) Star report; so every spring one little ice jam in the river floods huge chunks of reserve land and houses! Oh well, its only white mans money that is paying for all this.....and it makes for nice photo ops for Our Brainless Boy who enjoys taking `selfies` with the victimized natives.)

(It was Jean Chretien as Dept if Indian Affairs minister under LIE-beral leader Pierre Trudope who first encouraged a bunch of drugged, drunken, emotionally depressed, chronically un-employed sots living on remote reserves that they were `first nations`.....and given the array of problems endemic to a typical reserve one ought to say `First Nation` with a sneer. LIE-berals are responsible for this mess-encouraging natives that we can and will pay them whatever they want whenever they desire it. But isn’t it nice that some natives (like Quentin Rae) understand reality and scorn the siren song of `free` money from LIE-berals! AND take responsibility for their lives!)

(It is entirely obvious that natives on reserves need some sort of help but what they DON’T need is grossly misplaced sympathy from air head social workers; nor do they need any encouragement to continue down their current corrupt and drunken and too often suicidal path!)
It took 14 years to get a grade 12 graduate so he can be certified to operate the existing water treatment plant?

Progress
 

spilledthebeer

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It took 14 years to get a grade 12 graduate so he can be certified to operate the existing water treatment plant?

Progress

!4 years for a high school graduate to operate a water system the LIE-beral sneers! This is a big part of why ALL LIE-beral policy is collapsing into the dirt!

They just DO NOT get the details! The kid also had to go to college for a couple of years!

Its why high school grad Stan Kabel KILLED a bunch of people in Walkerton!

The STUPID municipal politicians figured they knew better than the city slickers that were giving them advice and they IGNORED all good advice and hired Kabel because he WORKED CHEAP - BECAUSE HE WAS UN-LICENCED!

But hey- LIE-berals DID SAVE ON GRAVY by hiring the unskilled KILLER CLOD!

And then the hypocrites tried to blame the mess on Mike HARRIS!

hahahahaha!!!!!!!!

What a bunch of LIE-beral Maroons!