Pipe line protesting hypocrites
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The new poll found 54 per cent of those asked in B.C. are in favour of the project, while 38 per cent are opposed to it. Compare this to February when 48 per cent were in favour and 40 per cent were opposed.
On the national level, support for the pipeline is also growing. Almost two thirds of those polls say the B.C. government is wrong to try and block the pipeline, up to 64 per cent from 55 per cent two months ago.
https://globalnews.ca/news/4151592/...tain-expansion-grows-amidst-pipeline-dispute/
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http://twitter.com/PremierScottMoe/status/986610074771636225
So, BC is NOT OK with pipelines and tankers moving Canadian oil OUT to world markets, but…
BC is OK with pipelines and tankers to move foreign oil INTO our nation.
Canada, we have a problem.
#skpoli #ableg #bcpoli #cdnpoli
www.vancouverairportfuel.ca/adminpanel/files/pdfs/VAFFC_Presentation_Board.pdf
No problem with importing oil just exporting I guess
So, BC is NOT OK with pipelines and tankers moving Canadian oil OUT to world markets, but…
BC is OK with pipelines and tankers to move foreign oil INTO our nation.
Canada, we have a problem.
#skpoli #ableg #bcpoli #cdnpoli
www.vancouverairportfuel.ca/adminpanel/files/pdfs/VAFFC_Presentation_Board.pdf
No problem with importing oil just exporting I guess
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Not so fast, Cliffy. It's been repeated several times on the news that the gasoline supply for the Vancouver area depends on the new pipeline OR we'll be buying it from a non Canadian supplier which will likely jack the price to $2 a litre! (Is that your understanding, too, Mowich? ) Don't spread fake news, Cliffy!
I know of the tanker cars and worry of a derailment in the Fraser Canyon . Let’s hope it happens in winter and only kill the sturgeon.
Most common conversation I have with Kinder Morgan supporters:
KMS: I'm for the pipeline
ME: Why?
KMS: Because jobs
Me: How many jobs?
KMS: I don't know.. but we need oil
Me: Ok, but this expansion is for export
KMS: Yeah but we'll make money off it
Me: How much money?
KMS: I don't know
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Seems like most people who are willing to take this massive environmental (and economic) risk for jobs and revenue have no idea how many jobs and how much revenue
Myth busting:
Jobs - 50 permanent, full time Kinder Morgan jobs for BC
Revenue - 65 per cent of the fiscal benefit will go to Kinder Morgan, about 32 per cent to Alberta and only two per cent to British Columbia.
http://www.cbc.ca/…/kinder-morgan-s-trans-mountain-pipeline…
Is it worth it?
Economic risk to jobs in case of a spill:
An oil spill caused by pipeline or resulting tanker traffic, which is highly likely to happen, would put the jobs of about 200,000 who rely on a healthy coast people at risk
A 2012 study on the potential economic impact of a tanker spill on ocean-based industries in British Columbia, conducted by the Fisheries Centre of the University of British Columbia found that a tanker spill could cause job losses of up to 43% among coastal industries.
https://twnsacredtrust.ca/concerns/jobs/
Economic risk to taxpayers in case of a spill:
"In the event of an accident, Kinder Morgan has pledged to do no more than comply with federal laws, which stipulate that operators of a major oil pipeline in this country must have a minimum of $1 billion in financial resources available to cover liabilities related to a land spill. If a spill were to occur at the Westridge Marine Terminal, the same law would likely apply.
However, if a tanker were to have a spill in Burrard Inlet or Vancouver Harbour, the vessel owner would be the responsible party. With assistance from the International Oil Pollution Compensation Funds and Canada’s Ship-Source Oil Pollution Fund, that vessel owner would be expected to muster a maximum of $1.36 billion for a single spill, according to Kinder Morgan.
The Exxon Valdez oil disaster shows how woefully inadequate that sum of money would be. In the event of a major spill, taxpayers would likely be responsible for shouldering most of the cleanup cost, which could easily surpass $10 billion, according to the advocacy group CRED."
http://www.macleans.ca/…/a-b-c-pipeline-spill-would-be-ine…/
Worth it? I don't think so! Even if the economic benefits were 100x these promises, putting all the life along the coast at risk of a spill and exacerbating climate change is a stupid plan for the future
KMS: I'm for the pipeline
ME: Why?
KMS: Because jobs
Me: How many jobs?
KMS: I don't know.. but we need oil
Me: Ok, but this expansion is for export
KMS: Yeah but we'll make money off it
Me: How much money?
KMS: I don't know
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Seems like most people who are willing to take this massive environmental (and economic) risk for jobs and revenue have no idea how many jobs and how much revenue
Myth busting:
Jobs - 50 permanent, full time Kinder Morgan jobs for BC
Revenue - 65 per cent of the fiscal benefit will go to Kinder Morgan, about 32 per cent to Alberta and only two per cent to British Columbia.
http://www.cbc.ca/…/kinder-morgan-s-trans-mountain-pipeline…
Is it worth it?
Economic risk to jobs in case of a spill:
An oil spill caused by pipeline or resulting tanker traffic, which is highly likely to happen, would put the jobs of about 200,000 who rely on a healthy coast people at risk
A 2012 study on the potential economic impact of a tanker spill on ocean-based industries in British Columbia, conducted by the Fisheries Centre of the University of British Columbia found that a tanker spill could cause job losses of up to 43% among coastal industries.
https://twnsacredtrust.ca/concerns/jobs/
Economic risk to taxpayers in case of a spill:
"In the event of an accident, Kinder Morgan has pledged to do no more than comply with federal laws, which stipulate that operators of a major oil pipeline in this country must have a minimum of $1 billion in financial resources available to cover liabilities related to a land spill. If a spill were to occur at the Westridge Marine Terminal, the same law would likely apply.
However, if a tanker were to have a spill in Burrard Inlet or Vancouver Harbour, the vessel owner would be the responsible party. With assistance from the International Oil Pollution Compensation Funds and Canada’s Ship-Source Oil Pollution Fund, that vessel owner would be expected to muster a maximum of $1.36 billion for a single spill, according to Kinder Morgan.
The Exxon Valdez oil disaster shows how woefully inadequate that sum of money would be. In the event of a major spill, taxpayers would likely be responsible for shouldering most of the cleanup cost, which could easily surpass $10 billion, according to the advocacy group CRED."
http://www.macleans.ca/…/a-b-c-pipeline-spill-would-be-ine…/
Worth it? I don't think so! Even if the economic benefits were 100x these promises, putting all the life along the coast at risk of a spill and exacerbating climate change is a stupid plan for the future