The US is heading for a Recession?

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US economy is headed for recession and the Fed will be held responsible, SocGen bear warns

With credit card delinquencies rising sharply at smaller banks, Societe Generale's uber-bearish strategist Albert Edwards has predicted that the U.S. economy is headed for recession.

"Markets are now sniffing out a rising stench," Edwards claimed in his latest research note, published Thursday.

Edwards said a flattening of the U.S. yield curve — where the difference between short-dated and longer-dated U.S. Treasury yields narrow — was revealing investor fears about the economic recovery, despite punchy data related to consumer and business optimism.

"The optimists have had their day. This data merely reflects the illusion of prosperity," Edwards argued.


Edwards cited data which showed that credit card charge-off rates at small U.S. banks had peaked to 7.9 percent. This is a level not seen since the end of the global financial crisis. Charge-off rates represent the level of debt that a creditor has decided it has no chance of collecting.

A similar but separate analysis measuring credit card delinquency also revealed an alarming spike at small banks.

While Edwards has often been seen as an outlier to wider market thinking, more voices have speculated that U.S. householders are seeing their finances stretched.

"All the data we've seen over the last few weeks has basically been that the consumer is maxed out, we've seen that in credit card loans as well, so I think the consumer is done spending the money," said Steen Jakobsen, economist at Danish investment house Saxo Bank on Tuesday.

And a report from Chet Malhotra, from asset management firm TCW, has also suggested late fees, cash advance and over-limit fees in the U.S. are on the rise.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/29/us-recession-is-coming-says-societe-generales-albert-edwards.html
 

Hoid

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The Fed?

The Fed is the only reason it ever survived 2008
 

Danbones

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The FED guaranteed the US will have a massively inflated collapse when in 2008 they bailed out the crooks and not the people,( with the people's money) .
:)

Like getting your poor sick grandma hooked on Hoid's afghani opium so you can steal all her money and weiner her onto the casting couch to give her the Bill.
 

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Thanks Obama

He did what he could to minimize the pain and the depth of the recession.

But here's the hard fact: the U.S., and every other country, is always headed for a recession. And there ain't much president, PM, or potentate can do about that.

Obviously, if a HoG could prevent a recession, she would. Cuz recessions suck. But the most a HoG can do is, as I said, minimize the pain and depth of the recession by a few percent.
 

Curious Cdn

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I hope so. I missed the boat in 08 when I could have snapped up a retirement place cheap.

Yeah, but kicking all of the old folks out into the cold is a bit of a drag. You have to pry their knurly fingers off of the door frames as you haul them out.
 

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Recessions are necessary for a healthy economy, gets rid of the dead wood.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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You raving leftard!!!

No, just sufficiently awakened not to assume all HoGs are men (and sufficiently literate not to misuse the term "woke").

If I was a raving leftard, I'd use zhe, or xe, or somesuch.

I still kinda like "shithead" as the brand-new, non-gender-specific pronoun.
 

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Yeah, but kicking all of the old folks out into the cold is a bit of a drag. You have to pry their knurly fingers off of the door frames as you haul them out.

It ain't cold in Corpus Christi. They'd manage.

Had a buddy buy a 2 year old, 1400 sqft house in Florence Arizona on a golf course for 65k in 08. It's worth 185k now. Had I not been dealing with the wife's health issues I would have been all over it.

No, just sufficiently awakened not to assume all HoGs are men (and sufficiently literate not to misuse the term "woke").

If I was a raving leftard, I'd use zhe, or xe, or somesuch.

I still kinda like "shithead" as the brand-new, non-gender-specific pronoun.

That's sounds suspiciously like something Justin would say and they don't get any lefter than that.
 

mentalfloss

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On a more positive note, once the boomers finally die off (and no disrespect to boomers, anyone who retires becomes a financial liability) things will get better.
 

Hoid

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It is the transfer of wealth that happens with the death of the baby boomers that will cause an uptick in the economy

It already has
 

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It is the transfer of wealth that happens with the death of the baby boomers that will cause an uptick in the economy

It already has

Are you investing in mortuaries or caskets or both? Plots anyone?
You think our death will help you, you think you can steer a planet, the uptick you,ll get is war, it,s time,full employment and vibrant economys tons of bullets and uniforms, generating history, again, meanwhile the whales
I wish I was a tree sometimes,

I,d rather have bark than skin.
 

mentalfloss

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Feel free to shuffle off this mortal coil at your convenience, sir.

I'm fine with paying for them to live longer lives, but they're the ones that don't want the support.

They'd rather have another war to teach us youngins the value of a dollar.