Half of Canadians Want Refugees Deported

Danbones

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So was your post
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Agree or not, at least STB puts contents of some kind in his posts.

No one here reads it.

Speaking for your self eh?
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actually the hand up your pant's back indicates you might not even be doing that.
 

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Way too long and boring to read
Let me fix that for you . Way to long and complicated ,my little brain can not comprehend multiple thoughts at one time . Please keep your posts to five letter words and less ,please no more then one sentence as I have a short attention span .
 

JamesBondo

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Yes, yes, WE KNOW the tragedy that is native life- after all it is white people who have chronicled it in our history books as we certainly can not look to unscrupulous natives such as Atiwapiskat band chief Teresa Spence- notorious for burning through $150 million dollars of Cdn tax money without leaving a SINGLE receipt behind to show what she did with that cash! It is corruption on a fantastic scale that lets a town mayor leading 1500 people to WASTE on such an epic scale!

Natives now face the harsh future- will they die out as drunken, violent, depressed, suicidal and defeated welfare bums lamenting the LOST past or will they find a reason to live and join the REST OF HUMANITY in the 21st century? The choice is stark- misery or life- and following the LIE-beral way means MISERY and suicide! If you think that LIE-berals are capable of BUYING native a bright fututre then you are a bigger fool than I thought you were! LIE-berals care only for buying native votes CHEAPLY!

Consider:

Did anybody happen to see the evening news flash of early June/2017? The one about the native reserve house full of sewage? The BRIEF report was produced by LIE-beral loving news media dedicated to political correctness and ignored more questions than it answered!

First- there were the sad images of a bungalow built on concrete piles in the style common in the north where a house with full basement is not suitable either due to bed rock near the surface or because of issues with permafrost- a full basement can hold in heat and cause the house to literally sink into the rapidly thawing grown! Hence the concrete piles for foundation.

But a house on piles like that has a flaw- the plumbing MUST be very carefully insulated or it WILL freeze since the crawl space under the house is not heated nor insulated! And some pipes must pass through this freezing zone to reach the septic tank system. And frozen pipes are more likely if the family is poor and thus scrimping on heating costs- the lower the temperature in the house- the less heat leaks from the house to keep pipes under the floor from freezing.

News media tells us there are 10 people living in a rather crowded 3 bedroom bungalow and such a crowd might be more than the septic system can handle? So did the sewage pipe either simply froze and ruptured or maybe it clogged up and then froze and ruptured. In any case the pipe broke and raw sewage began leaking and pooling in a disgusting mess UNDER the house.

The residents say it was not too bad till the spring- at which point the mess thawed fully and began to ferment with maggots swarming everywhere and the reek becoming an eye watering horror. The band council was approached for help but none was forthcoming for some reason?

A white business man heard of the family plight and offered to DONATE a new prefab house but things are stalled for reasons the media do not want to discuss. Both business man and band council blame each other for the lack of progress on a new house. Perhaps the businessman wants the band to pay for shipping since he has stepped up and donated the house? And maybe the band figures the house should be shipped for free? WE don’t know and LIE-beral minded news medai seems to think such questions are NOT important?

And there are other questions too- such as why the family did not stop flushing the toilet immediately after the pipe broke? AS a guy who has lived in exactly this sort of house I know that a white guy will not continue using a toilet that is poisoning his house and air! The reserve is out in the forest and the first thing a white guy would do is do `it` in the forest like the bears- or at least go find a bucket that can be used in the heated bathroom and DUMPED in the forest! As for bathing- there is a community centre and why not shower there for a while instead of adding to the cess pool under the house? Sensible people who don’t like living over a foul sewage lagoon generally find ways to avoid adding to the pool daily! But natives are not like white people- they apparently are comfortable just to keep mindlessly adding to the filth and whining because no white people will help them!

And now that warm weather is here, no plumber wants to go wading through all that filth to fix a broken pipe! And there is the value of the bucket method- the swamp under the house will dry out of not added to daily and it will become possible to get under and do repairs without losing your lunch! A plumber might want to put down plastic sheeting to avoid soft and squishy areas but it IS possible to do the repairs without getting mired in filth! And of course white people would not simply abandon a house because it has frozen and ruptured pipes. A house is costly and not to be simply written off on a whim! Not before serious repair efforts are made!

The great majority of houses on a typical reserve are built BY the local people after they have been through govt training programs. They KNOW how to fix and repair the house- if only somebody would give them some motivation! But gee, brand new pipes are so much more pleasant to work with than dirty old ruptured ones so its much better to whine that whites are bigots forcing natives to live in sub standard housing than to take any logical action!

I don't think you understand what you are saying. If you consider things very carefully you will notice that the tragedy that is native life- after all it is white people who have chronicled it in our history books as we certainly can not look to unscrupulous natives such as Atiwapiskat band chief Teresa Spence- notorious for burning through $150 million dollars of Cdn tax money without leaving a SINGLE receipt behind to show what she did with that cash! It is corruption on a fantastic scale that lets a town mayor leading 1500 people to WASTE on such an epic scale!

Natives now face the harsh future- will they die out as drunken, violent, depressed, suicidal and defeated welfare bums lamenting the LOST past or will they find a reason to live and join the REST OF HUMANITY in the 21st century? The choice is stark- misery or life- and following the LIE-beral way means MISERY and suicide! If you think that LIE-berals are capable of BUYING native a bright fututre then you are a bigger fool than I thought you were! LIE-berals care only for buying native votes CHEAPLY!

Consider:

Did anybody happen to see the evening news flash of early June/2017? The one about the native reserve house full of sewage? The BRIEF report was produced by LIE-beral loving news media dedicated to political correctness and ignored more questions than it answered!

First- there were the sad images of a bungalow built on concrete piles in the style common in the north where a house with full basement is not suitable either due to bed rock near the surface or because of issues with permafrost- a full basement can hold in heat and cause the house to literally sink into the rapidly thawing grown! Hence the concrete piles for foundation.

But a house on piles like that has a flaw- the plumbing MUST be very carefully insulated or it WILL freeze since the crawl space under the house is not heated nor insulated! And some pipes must pass through this freezing zone to reach the septic tank system. And frozen pipes are more likely if the family is poor and thus scrimping on heating costs- the lower the temperature in the house- the less heat leaks from the house to keep pipes under the floor from freezing.

News media tells us there are 10 people living in a rather crowded 3 bedroom bungalow and such a crowd might be more than the septic system can handle? So did the sewage pipe either simply froze and ruptured or maybe it clogged up and then froze and ruptured. In any case the pipe broke and raw sewage began leaking and pooling in a disgusting mess UNDER the house.

The residents say it was not too bad till the spring- at which point the mess thawed fully and began to ferment with maggots swarming everywhere and the reek becoming an eye watering horror. The band council was approached for help but none was forthcoming for some reason?

A white business man heard of the family plight and offered to DONATE a new prefab house but things are stalled for reasons the media do not want to discuss. Both business man and band council blame each other for the lack of progress on a new house. Perhaps the businessman wants the band to pay for shipping since he has stepped up and donated the house? And maybe the band figures the house should be shipped for free? WE don’t know and LIE-beral minded news medai seems to think such questions are NOT important?

And there are other questions too- such as why the family did not stop flushing the toilet immediately after the pipe broke? AS a guy who has lived in exactly this sort of house I know that a white guy will not continue using a toilet that is poisoning his house and air! The reserve is out in the forest and the first thing a white guy would do is do `it` in the forest like the bears- or at least go find a bucket that can be used in the heated bathroom and DUMPED in the forest! As for bathing- there is a community centre and why not shower there for a while instead of adding to the cess pool under the house? Sensible people who don’t like living over a foul sewage lagoon generally find ways to avoid adding to the pool daily! But natives are not like white people- they apparently are comfortable just to keep mindlessly adding to the filth and whining because no white people will help them!

And now that warm weather is here, no plumber wants to go wading through all that filth to fix a broken pipe! And there is the value of the bucket method- the swamp under the house will dry out of not added to daily and it will become possible to get under and do repairs without losing your lunch! A plumber might want to put down plastic sheeting to avoid soft and squishy areas but it IS possible to do the repairs without getting mired in filth! And of course white people would not simply abandon a house because it has frozen and ruptured pipes. A house is costly and not to be simply written off on a whim! Not before serious repair efforts are made!

The great majority of houses on a typical reserve are built BY the local people after they have been through govt training programs. They KNOW how to fix and repair the house- if only somebody would give them some motivation! But gee, brand new pipes are so much more pleasant to work with than dirty old ruptured ones so its much better to whine that whites are bigots forcing natives to live in sub standard housing than to take any logical action!
 

spilledthebeer

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This woman's immigration application took so long she died while waiting

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/201...tion-took-so-long-she-died-while-waiting.html

Slow walking it eh?

AS I have stated on other occasions- LIE-berals find that one way to get around opposition is simply to be silent and refuse to discuss real problems! Such wilful LIE-beral blindness is operating full force as LIE-berals PRETEND to deal with the flood of illegals coming here! LIE-berals collect these people as if LIE-berals were crazy cat ladies rounding up strays- and then deny afterwards they did anything to attract them!

AS you read the post below- ask yourself when you heard the last media report on how many illegals arrived in the last 3 months? And when did LIE-berals last tell us how many illegals have actually been processed out of the total here now and how many have been accepted here and how many deported? LIE-berals consider it NONE of our business what THEY Do with the future voters they are BUYING!

Consider:

Here is an article describing the utterly selfish motives of the LIE-beral party as they buy ethnic votes without regard for national security or the costs involved. And aint it sickening that Ndpers like Jagmeet Singh are willing to ride along? Jag sure is NOT opposing them- rather he is trying to OUT DO them! But then NDPers are the less cunning and less intelligent kissing cousins of LIE-berals! To become NDP it is required that you be too stupid to be accepted as a LIE-beral! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Liberal politicization of immigration system gets even worse

By Lorne Gunter , Edmonton Sun. First posted: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 05:41 PM EDT | Updated: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 06:21 PM EDT

Two weeks ago, I wrote that the federal Liberal government was playing partisan games with Canada’s immigration appeal system. In the name of transparency and objectivity, the Trudeau government was refusing to renew the appointments of any immigration judges who were male or who had been appointed by the Harper government.

(Holier than thou LIE-berals, led by Our feminist idiot Boy Justin are now discriminating on gender grounds! But then what can we expect from a prime minister who thinks it is a good idea to reserve half the seats in parliament form women regardless of who cdns wish to elect?)

That meant immigration appeal offices across the country would have too few adjudicators to handle the current case load.

(And the longer illegals are left in Canada, the more likely they are to cook up an excuse to stay on “compassionate grounds” that only a LIE-beral would accept!)

Offices in Vancouver and Calgary, which are responsible for all of Western Canada, are dangerously understaffed. Instead of the 11 judges who normally hear appeals from Winnipeg to the West Coast, by July there will be just two judges left while the Trudeauites search for enough loyal Liberal visible-minority and female appointees to take up the slack.

I predicted if this vacuum persisted, the appeal process in Western Canada would grind to a halt and last Wednesday that prediction came true. Without any fanfare, the federal Immigration department confirmed that there is such a shortage of judges that the immigration appeal division -IAD, “will be able to schedule only a limited number of oral hearings … west of Ontario for at least the next six months.” Probably longer.

In the interim, “the IAD will focus its efforts on resolving as many appeals as it can without an oral hearing.” That’s lovely, but an oral hearing is needed in the most suspicious cases.

Where applicants are the subject of a deportation order because they have committed a crime, or where they are suspected of entering into marriages of convenience simply to sneak a spouse into the country or when they have filled out fraudulent application forms, it is very risky to pencil-whip their approval to stay in Canada. A trained immigration judge should first look them in the eye while he or she hears the details of their cases and asks pertinent questions.

(But LIE-berals have already begun that carefree fast track process! After the Oct/ 2015 election- LIE-berals began culling the ranks of immigration judges that are known to ask probing questions of immigrants they suspect are lying! LIE-berals have disposed of many judges on political grounds- for holding suspect views on either immigrants or on LIE-beral policy!)

But I suppose if your top priority for our immigration system is to let in as many people as possible, regardless of their qualifications or possible terror ties, and your second priority is to cram the judges’ chambers with dutiful Liberals who will rubberstamp the party line, then whether or not the IAD provides an adequate filter is irrelevant to you. And that seems to be precisely what the Liberals are doing, especially west of Lake of the Woods.

(The LIE-beral immigrant selection process is apparently confined to whether the applicant can accurately identify a LIE-beral and offer slavish electoral support!)

This is unfair to new Canadians who have been waiting for a hearing for as many as four years already and may now have to wait another year or two. Their lives and the lives of their families will now be on hold even longer while they wait to learn their fate.

(And its worth noting that the Somali refugee claimant and Isis supporter who attacked us in Edmonton had been known to cops- who did not have the time or resources to fully pursue the matter to determine if the guy was dangerous or just eccentric- not that any proof would have been relevant to LIE-berals! After all, Our idiot Boy has RESTORED Cdn citizenship to members of the CONVICTED Toronto 18 Muslim terror group- instead of deporting them!)

It is also unfair to Canadians as a whole. Not only will the cost to taxpayers go up as delays drag on, but there is also a very good chance that the courts will eventually say many applicants have been here so long- six to eight years by the time the Libs find enough sycophants to populate the appeals boards- that it would be unconstitutional to remove them.

(It is what is happening already with Cdn criminals- in mid June 2017- Cdn courts quietly released SEVEN ACCUSED MURDERERS because LIE-berals could not offer them a trial within a reasonable time! Talk about getting away with murder!)

There may also be a third, even more sinister motive behind the Liberals delaying tactics. At least two sources with direct knowledge of the Liberals’ long-term immigration strategy confirm the Trudeau government is considering a general amnesty in 2018 for most outstanding immigration and refugee claimants.

How convenient. If that happens, that could mean 100,000 or more new voters before the next federal election in 2019, and all of them extremely grateful to Justin Trudeau and the Liberals.

(And some skeptics think I am unreasonable in suggesting LIE-berals have GROSSLY selfish motives? HAHAHAHAHAHA!)

There’s an easy solution to this. The Libs should just reappoint all the judges they have effectively dismissed.

(Oh that will NOT do- as LIE-berals can not reappoint the judges because LIE-berals are on record as saying that Conservative appointed judges ask too many hard questions of immigrants and when they don’t like the stupid answers the judges refuse to let the dorks become Cdns and thus thwart LIE-beral policy!)
 

Gilgamesh

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This ignorant & childish stance against immigrants etc is unwarranted.

Canada remains underpopulated and continues to need more immigrants to run and maintain our economy.

The original "white" Euro stock are refusing to have enough babies to maintain our economy.

Take Your bigotry and xenophobia and stuff it sideways where the sun don't shine.
 

JLM

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This ignorant & childish stance against immigrants etc is unwarranted.

Canada remains underpopulated and continues to need more immigrants to run and maintain our economy.

The original "white" Euro stock are refusing to have enough babies to maintain our economy.

Take Your bigotry and xenophobia and stuff it sideways where the sun don't shine.

Yes & No. We can definitely use some immigrants who are ready, willing and capable of filling professional positions like doctors and nurses without incurring further expense. We don't need immigrants who have the same problems as those of our own people who we are grasping at ways to fund help for.
 

Durry

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This ignorant & childish stance against immigrants etc is unwarranted.

Canada remains underpopulated and continues to need more immigrants to run and maintain our economy.

The original "white" Euro stock are refusing to have enough babies to maintain our economy.

Take Your bigotry and xenophobia and stuff it sideways where the sun don't shine.
Immigration has to be targeted to make sure we get immigrants who are not a burden on Canadians but are great contributions to building Canada.
In the past it has been mainly immigrants from Europe that have helped build Canada, but now we are immigrating too many from loser countries.

We have far too many immigrants coming into this country who are turning out to be slackards and a burden on the Canadian economy.
Just what have Somaliees and middle easterners done for Canada besides brining terroristism acts and immigration costs for Canadians??

We need to do a better job of classifying immigrants from different countries and only immigrate people from countries that have demonstrated to be good contributors to Canada.

Middle easterners and Somaliees would not make the grade.
 

JLM

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Immigration has to be targeted to make sure we get immigrants who are not a burden on Canadians but are great contributions to building Canada.
In the past it has been mainly immigrants from Europe that have helped build Canada, but now we are immigrating too many from loser countries.

Times have changed- I'm not sure "loser" countries are much of a factor. There's probably a lot of candidates from "loser" countries who might qualify just from the fact they've proven ability at overcoming adversity!
 

Durry

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Times have changed- I'm not sure "loser" countries are much of a factor. There's probably a lot of candidates from "loser" countries who might qualify just from the fact they've proven ability at overcoming adversity!
Loser countries are a Big factor, those from loser countries almost always bring their loser ways with them.

Conversely those from winning countries bring their winning ways with them.

That’s what we need, more winners and a lot less losers from loser countries
 

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This ignorant & childish stance against immigrants etc is unwarranted.

Canada remains underpopulated and continues to need more immigrants to run and maintain our economy.

The original "white" Euro stock are refusing to have enough babies to maintain our economy.

Take Your bigotry and xenophobia and stuff it sideways where the sun don't shine.

No it isn't. It is neither ignorant nor childish.
Our government's first interest is to protect Canadians. We are not here to look after the basket cases of the world until our own needs are met. The only immigrants we should accept must be fluent in English,educated and have job skills we can use and not likely to be a burden to our health care and welfare systems.
 

JLM

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Loser countries are a Big factor, those from loser countries almost always bring their loser ways with them.

Conversely those from winning countries bring their winning ways with them.

That’s what we need, more winners and a lot less losers from loser countries

You might want to rethink that! By following your logic we might be missing out on a lot of quality candidates. Do we want to repeat the errors we made in the 1800s in our opinion of Blacks?
 

spilledthebeer

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yeah and the other half didn't get a chance to vote. ;)

Here are some terms we are all familiar with: Jamaican Posse. Mafia. La Cosa Nostra. Ndrangheta. Venezuelan Cocaine Cartels. Mexican drug lord. Nigerian letter scam- which also comes from Ivory Coast and various othwer African countries. telemarketing scams that originate from MULTIPLE their world pest holes!

And here is a list of some crimes and criminals: the Russian in his KIng City mansion- with nice sports cars in the drive way and eight hundred FORGED credit cards in his pockets- with enouhg stolen personal information to make 4000 MORE CARDS! The biggest bank ATM bank machine fraud in history- perpetrated by the Russian mob with 2 low level Russian immigrants doing rthe donkey work and taking the legal fall while ALL their bosses are safely out of the country!

We have all heard of El Chapo. We are familiar with the Panamanian dictator and drug dealer that Yankees call "Pineapple face" that Yankees took out 20 years ago.

Now: name a Swedish organized crime lord or Swedish drug cartel!

Or name a famous Dutch organized crime gang!

How about a famous British criminal- OTHER than Jolly Jack the Ripper!

Cdns are not hostile to immigrants!

WE ARE hostile to those who see Canada as the sucker nation of the world!

WE ARE hostile to those who call us "systemic racists" and "Islamophobes" in between demands that we MUST IMMEDIATELY offer up "charity" to those who most strongly condemn us! What these racist newcomers want from us is NOT charity! What they DEMAND is blackmail cash NOW!

Being railed at by these foreign bigots is equivalent to being bitten by the stray cat you have been generously feeding- with the cat getting into a bad mood because you have offered kibble instead of cream!
 

JLM

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That's like closing the gate after the horse has fled! Mr. Brain Dead should never have embarked on the initiative in the first place. I can't figure why Mr. Goodale (who I thought was level headed and sensible) didn't give him a clout upside the head when he first suggested it.
 

Gilgamesh

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Immigration has to be targeted to make sure we get immigrants who are not a burden on Canadians but are great contributions to building Canada.
In the past it has been mainly immigrants from Europe that have helped build Canada, but now we are immigrating too many from loser countries.

We have far too many immigrants coming into this country who are turning out to be slackards and a burden on the Canadian economy.
Just what have Somaliees and middle easterners done for Canada besides brining terroristism acts and immigration costs for Canadians??

We need to do a better job of classifying immigrants from different countries and only immigrate people from countries that have demonstrated to be good contributors to Canada.

Middle easterners and Somaliees would not make the grade.
Thank You for your childishly simple bigotry.
 

Gilgamesh

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I was born in the U.K, immigrated to Canada as a pre- pubescent child.

Apart from a couple of contracts that took me to Europe for a few months and the USA for a couple of years, I spent my working life in Canada doing engineering and R & D in the aerospace and nuclear industry.

I am now retired.

I hope that meets with your approval and I await your reply with breathless anticipation.
 

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I was born in the U.K, immigrated to Canada as a pre- pubescent child.

Apart from a couple of contracts that took me to Europe for a few months and the USA for a couple of years, I spent my working life in Canada doing engineering and R & D in the aerospace and nuclear industry.

I am now retired.

I hope that meets with your approval and I await your reply with breathless anticipation.

Ultimately, any nation that applies immigration policies at either end of the spectrum can expect to succeed in that endeavor.

Purely xenophobic policies undermine the entire program all together and too heavy a focus on refugee/humanitarian is unsustainable from an economic perspective.