Half of Canadians Want Refugees Deported

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Post is too long and boring to read

Outright censorship and that whine "its too long and boring are classic LIE-beral responses to a clear, logical, insightful analysis of FAILED LIE-beral policy!

Face it- you are failing in every arena! Which is why my posts so distress you! if you had any sensible rebuttal you would have used it by now!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
 

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My supervisor and his church just sponsored a Syrian family this year.

We gave the kids some winter gear....should have seen the faces of these kids when they experienced real cold.

Lol!

That`s nice- kids playing in the snow! And maybe they will go back home where it is warm? With so many hundreds of millions of people desperately seeking a better life one has to ask WHY LIE-berals are fixated on Muslims- the molst argumentative, violence prone and religiously bigoted bunch on the planet? Think how much aid we could give if we did not have to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on national security to limit the activities of Jihadists?

Here is an older article to remind us of the value of LIE-beral ethics:

Oh my, whatever LIE-berals want is automatically right in their eyes-they are perfect patriots and anybody who denies this is a traitor! Here is a nice description of LIE-beral hypocrisy, along with some comments of my own in brackets):

Trudeau may change law to protect Maryam Monsef’. By Candice Malcolm

First posted: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 07:43 PM EDT | Updated: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 07:47 PM EDT

The Trudeau Liberals have spun themselves into a corner when it comes to Maryam Monsef.

(The post is an older one and LIE-berals have decided it will be expedient for them to fire Monseff from her ministry and let her fade into obscurity as a mostly forgotten back bench loser! LIE-berals hope that for Monseff- out of sight is also out of mind for the public- they did not want to dodge the political flack that would be shot at them if they tried to keep Monseff in a place of prominence! But it is good to remember that LIE-berals still want to keep this anti democratic, arrogant Muslim commissar- she has been caught lying on her immigration papers and cannot seem to recall if she was born in revolutionary Iran or in a more politically correct Afghan refugee camp! Naturally both Monseff and her LIE-beral party want us to give her then benefit of the doubt and forgive her little fibs so she can save her job and save LIE-beral self respect!)

It now looks as if Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is willing to change Canada’s citizenship and immigration laws to protect one of his own.

Monsef says her mother recently told her she was born in Iran, not Afghanistan, as she had previously been told.

(Gee-why would Mom tell her kid she was Afghan instead of Iranian? Its not as if Iranians are much less politically acceptable to Cdns is it? All that Iranian revolutionary guard bullshit and the taking of Yankees embassy hostages with a bunch of Yankee diplomatic fugitives hiding out in the Cdn embassy COULD maybe have soured Cdns on anything from Iran?)

If her immigration application, when she was a child, included false information about her birthplace, then it is possible her immigration application was fraudulent.

(Possibly fraudulent? It smells to me as if Mom told people she was Afghan deliberately to make it easier to get into Canada- and that IS fraud!)

The penalty for providing false representation to immigration officials is steep.

In similar cases where a parent provided untrue information on behalf of a child, it has led to the stripping of citizenship and even deportation from Canada.

(But oh my- could a staunch LIE-beral supporter be treated so? Be given the bums rush and thrown out on her ill tempered anti democratic, no referendum on electoral reform bleating ass? Gosh NO- LIE-berals are the anointed of our land!)

As I pointed out in my last column, the Trudeau government recently stripped citizenship from an Egyptian national who became a Canadian citizen at age eight.

In that case, the woman’s parents lied on her application, and therefore, as per Canadian law, she risks being deported.

But when it comes to their own star cabinet minister, Monsef, the Trudeau Liberals are scrambling to deal with the controversy.

On Tuesday, Immigration Minister John McCallum testified in front of a Senate committee discussing Bill C-6, the Trudeau government’s controversial citizenship bill.

Under pressure from Liberals in the Senate, McCallum suggested that his government would consider placing a moratorium on the practice of citizenship revocation.

How convenient.

“I will consider that moratorium. I won’t rule it out unconditionally,” McCallum told the Senate committee. “What I am saying is that we would welcome a reform to the system.”

(And by reform, McCallum means a new system where LIE-berals will do as they please and treat with friends and enemies with rewards and punishments doled out as necessary to keep LIE-berals comfortable-even if it means GIVING BACK citizenship to the terrorist leader of the Toronto 18 who was convicted of planning to machine gun the Toronto stock market, lob hand grenades into parliament and behead then prime minister Harper. A cynic might ask: what does a convicted terrorist offer us? Except the chance to fret over possible future terror attacks? LIE-berals do not deign to answer, but they have given the terrorist his Cdn citizenship back!)

The Trudeau government had no problem imposing this law during its first eleven months in office. None at all.

During the last session of Parliament, Trudeau and McCallum introduced comprehensive changes to Canada’s citizenship and immigration laws through Bill C-6.

On the issue of citizenship revocation, Bill C-6 halted the government’s ability to strip citizenship from convicted terrorists and those who commit treason against Canada.

As Trudeau said famously during the last election campaign, after all, “a Canadian is a Canadian is a Canadian.” Even if that Canadian is a foreign-born terrorist.

(Should we guess that Our brainless Boy Justin follows his father in believing that Canada is `imperialist` and thus deserves to be hurt. Father Trudope believed that Britain and Canada engaged in a imperialist war against Nazi Germany. And some LIE-berals have suggested that the Yankees deserved the World Trade Centre attack? Just how alien are the views held by Our brainless Boy in imitation of his hard core Stalin supporting communist father?)

But when it came to cases of fraud and misrepresentation, no changes were made under Bill C-6.

Quite the opposite, in fact, as Trudeau said he supported citizenship revocation under these circumstances.

(As we see-he supports this fact UNLESS its embarrassing to LIE-berals!)

On the campaign trail last September, Trudeau less-famously said that, “revocation of citizenship can and should happen in situations of becoming a Canadian citizen under false pretenses.”

At the time, this statement contradicted Trudeau’s own position that Canadian citizenship is an absolute and inalienable right.

Now, that contradiction is catching up on him.

Until the Monsef scandal surfaced, the Trudeau government had no problem in stripping citizenship away from those who committed fraud and those who lied on their applications.

They had no issue with the process of revocation — determined by the relevant cabinet minister and not through lengthy court proceedings.

They agreed with the law, and implemented it routinely.

But suddenly, this law threatens to damage the Trudeau government’s reputation and punish a Liberal insider.

And all of the sudden, they’re willing to change course.

The Trudeau government is now suggesting it would rather change Canada’s longstanding immigration law, ad hoc, than face the inconvenient fact that, based on the story she’s provided, Monsef’s immigration application may have been fraudulent.

(It would appear that LIE-berals do not intend to make any written changes to the law-rather they will simply delete inconvenient sections and then` forget` to write relevant new pieces so they can legally discriminate in favour of friends and punish enemies as they feel necessary! If its written down then people will expect govt to stand by it-but if there is nothing written then there an be no complaints about LIE-berals bending the NON rules in their private Star Chamber!)
 

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I tried reading one of cryinyourbeer's posts once. Too painful. I can handle incredible stupidity in small doses but at some point it's like nails on a chalkboard so I just skip it
 

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I tried reading one of cryinyourbeer's posts once. Too painful. I can handle incredible stupidity in small doses but at some point it's like nails on a chalkboard so I just skip it


Here is an article illustrating how LIE-berals and their media allies fabricate fake news. With some comments of my own in brackets):

Liberals fail to track Syrian refugees despite $950 million settlement fund: AG

Canadian Press. Published: November 21, 2017. Updated: November 21, 2017 4:23 PM EST

Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ News/ Canada

Liberals Failing to Track Syrian Refugees: AG 1:52

OTTAWA — The Liberal government is struggling to track the impact of its historic effort to resettle upwards of 40,000 Syrian refugees, the federal auditor general concluded Tuesday in his fall report.

Markers like how many kids are in school or how many Syrians are on income assistance weren’t being measured between fall 2015 and the spring of this year, the period examined by the federal watchdog, raising questions about what happened to the population once they began to settle in Canada.

(The ugly truth is that LIE-berals do NOT want to know what is happening with all those potential future jihadists! LIE-berals know that Muslims who fail to integrate smoothly and spend long periods unemployed and in poverty are easier to fall into `radical` mode and attack US! LIE-berals are being hideously short sigfhted here as they seek to buy Muslim votes without the bother of devising any sort of long term plan to deal with them- socially, economically or militarily!)

“We were concerned about the department’s inability to track whether the Syrian refugees had access to basic provincial services, such as health care and education — especially considering that part of the department’s objective was to help Syrian refugees benefit from Canada’s social, medical, and economic systems,” the auditor general’s report said.

(One has to assume that a Syrian with a health car issue would simply go to the local emergency clinic and show them their landed immigration papers- supplied by LIE-berals when the Syrian entered Canada and that should be ID enough to get care- especially as nobody would wish to turn them away and later be charged with `Islamophobia`!)

Auditor General Michael Ferguson holds a press conference at the National Press Theatre in Ottawa on Tuesday, Nov. 21, 2017, regarding his 2017 Fall Report. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Sean Kilpatrick

While a rapid impact evaluation the population was conducted by the government for the first wave of arrivals, the auditor general went digging over the longer term, looking to see whether Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada was both providing the services newcomers needed and tracking what happened next.

“This audit is important because the Syrian refugee initiative will succeed in the long term only if the people it brought to Canada integrate into Canadian society,” the report said.

(IN summer of 2017- the last time LIE-beral loving news media gave us an update- over NINETY PERCENT of the Muslims brought to Canada by LIE-berals were still unemployed after a full year here! Although about 50 percent of privately sponsored Muslims had found work- it speaks to the reckless and careless govt selection process- Sun writer Bonokowski has referred to Our idiot Boy Justin as the muslim collecting equivalent of a “crazy cat lady” as Our idiot Boy seems compelled to `collect` every Muslim he sees. Sadly- the Trudope “crazy cat lady” analogy seems ENTIRELY APT!)

While the federal government did have a plan to track outcomes, it either didn’t collect all the required data outright, or had trouble getting from the provinces and settlement organizations, the report said.

(Poverty pimps within the “settlement organizations” think that handing out adverse information about Muslims is detrimental to LIE-beral policy- poverty pimps and Cdn public are working in opposite directions- the poverty pimps want MORE Muslim refugees while ordinary Cdns want many LESS of them as they are a proven danger! Hence the extreme reluctance of “settlement organizations” and LIE-berals to collect any useful information!)

(I would also point out that through sprimg and summer 2017- Cdn news media routinely kept us updated on how many illegals were crossing our borders- but now that Cdn opinion has hardened against illegals- our media and LIE-berals have gone SILENT! A radical minority of loons aided by LIE-berals who are desperate to cling to power at any price are doing an end run around our laws and public opinions and common sense! A major reason for LIE-berals being unable to settle the NAFTA trade deal is Yankee fear they will end up importing jihadist terror cells along with their Cdn dairy and softwood lumber products. The LIE-beral concept of national security is so sloppy and so ill formed that it threatens to persuade Yankees to shut the border to ANY Cdns or their trade!)

So what happened, for example, was that Syrians in some parts of the country faced lengthy wait times for language classes because the government wasn’t keeping an eye on those wait lists and in turn ensuring funds were being allocated where they were needed most.

Still, by March 2017, the auditor general concluded that more than 80% of the new arrivals had their needs assessed, and 75% of those who received language assessments did attend language classes.

(LIE-berals and their municipal civil service union Hog allies are working against the wishes of the general public wirth their current campaign to persuade us we should spend MUCH MORE MONEY on shelters for the homeless- WITHOUT bothering to tell us how much of that homeless shelter money is being syphoned off to pay for Muslims who lack any capacity to succeed in Canada due to language an educational deficiencies that our LIE-beral crazy cat lady deliberately
overlooked when he brought them in! It’s the usual LIE-beral/Hog alliance- with LIE-berals offering gravy to Hogs in exchange for their SILENCE about costly Muslim deals! Withy LIE-beral loving Cdn news media playing along as well!)

Then, some of those services were cut when the government delayed getting the necessary funds to the settlement organizations providing the programs.

The department asked the organizations to keep going with the programs with the promise the money would come later, but 16 groups weren’t prepared to take that risk, the report said, and in turn cut programs for three months earlier this year.

(Our idiot |Boy ran a $31 billion dollar deficit in 2016 and a deficit of around $20 billion in 2017 and we really ought to ask WHERE the money went! It certainly did not go into new transit or repairs and expansion of affordable housing! A cynic would suggest that MUCH of that 2 year- $50 plus billion dollar debt wenbt into the pockets of civil service Hogs! Newspaper articles from 2010-2012 detailed the massive- and GROWING federal pension deficit! In 2012, media told us federal LIE-berals had made pension promises to Hogs that totalled over $300 billion dollars! With that amount GROWING YEARLY as interest on the debt accumulated! WE know also that Ontari-owe LIE-berals have made promises to OSSTF/our high school teachers totalling $55 billion dollars- with EIGHTEEN MORE provincial Hog unions in line right behind OSSTF! And then we must add in the municipal Hog unions and the Hogs at crown corporations such as ORNGE, E-health, Metrolinx, the colleges and universities and etc- how many more hundreds of billions have LIE-berals promised these Hogs? With Muslims being merely a tiny part of the total problem- but LIE-beals are quite happy to use Muslim needs as a smoke screen for other massive issues!)

It’s been almost exactly two years since the Liberals launched the program they’d promised during the 2015 campaign — bring 25,000 Syrians to Canada by the end of that year, for a cost of $250 million.

his audit is important because the Syrian refugee initiative will succeed in the long term only if the people it brought to Canada integrate into Canadian society.
Auditor General of Canada 2017 Fall Report

The deadline was later bumped back and the budget exponentially bumped up — just over $950 million has been set aside. One major increase came in settlement funding. Originally, $141 million over four years was set aside, but that budget was boosted to $257 million over five years when it became clear the Syrians were arriving with higher-than-expected needs.

(And of course there is rapidly growing need for security monitoring of Muslims- that LIE-berals IGNORED till it became obvious that Yankees might kill NAFTA unless LIE-berals got serious about national security! And maybe we should aks which govt fund the LIE-berals raided so they could give Omar Khadr his $10 million dollar reward for teaching Taliban fighters how to make explosive devices in Afghanistan? With another $27 million dollars in Cdn funds handed out ot 3 other Muslims who also whined about the treatment they got from Yankee security forces? Should we ask how many English as a second language classes could hve been bought for $37 million dollars? Its all just our Crazy cat lady collecting Muslims without having any clue what to do with them! Or how to prevent them from blowing up our furniture and our lives! )

While the resettlement program has been lauded the world over, one of the main criticisms was that the Liberals rolled it out without enough advance planning for what would happen once the Syrians actually arrived on Canadian soil.

(If LIE-beals had made detailed advance planning then Cdn attitude to Muslims and illegals could be counted on to harden against MUCH FASTER- hence LIE-beral vagueness!)

At one point, the pace of new arrivals was so fast, settlement organizations asked for a pause, while early issues with access to housing saw some refugees spending weeks or months living in hotels, unable to get their kids in school or start language classes.

(And should we ask if Muslim need for affordable housing is behind the sudden LIE-beral interest in repairing our affordable stock? And is Muslim demand for low cost housing part of the reason for news headlines screaming about rent price gouging in 2017? There was no big news about rent gouging BEFORE large numbers of Muslims appeared in our major cities. LIE-berals have suddenly expanded rent controls to ALL apartments and condos- are LIE-berals picking the pockets of landlords and limiting their profits on behalf of Muslims? One has only to think of the summer 2017 rent strike at 11 buildings in Toronto/Parkdale- with the landlord being the gravy hungry Alberta Municipal Employees Hog union! LIE-berals are going in circles here- Hogs desperately need MORE gravy- LIE-berals desperately need both Hog and ethnic votes to cling to power- with Cdns already enraged by LIE-beral tax gouging and ill considered immigration policy- it’s a fiscal death spiral that threatens to expose ALL LIE-beral policy as TOTAL FAILURE! Hence LIE-beral unwillingness to spell out their lack of success in ANY area!)

The auditor general made four recommendations in the report, encouraging the Immigration Department to improve its systems for getting money out the door and tracking outcomes, while also ensuring service providers understand what’s expected of them.

In its formal response, the Immigration Department said it agrees with the suggestions and work is underway.

(But do NOT hold your breath while you wait for LIE-beral efficiency and candour on this issue!)
 

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Fewer asylum seekers entering Canada are being granted refugee status as case backlogs increase

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/...refugee-status-as-case-backlogs-increase.html

The Liberal Party and Trudeau are racist eh?

Yes- they have a huge HATRED of White people! Consider:

Oh how aweful- our prime minster- that idiot Boy Justin is ashamed of Canada- and here is an article that details his shame! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Trudeau tells UN of Canada's shame 1/17

Canadian Press

UNITED NATIONS, N.Y. - Prime Minister Justin Trudeau used a speech to the United Nations on Thursday to probe a source of national shame: the historic struggles of Canada's Indigenous peoples.

He spoke of forced migration and forced family separation in residential schools, which he said left a devastating legacy on reserves to this day. He said Canada came to exist without the consent and participation of the Indigenous populations who had lived there for millenniums. "For indigenous peoples in Canada, the experience was mostly one of humiliation, neglect and abuse," he said.

It was the major theme of his address, which did not gloss over the country's failures and even referred to the international condemnation they have drawn.

But he also looked ahead to at a series of solutions: better infrastructure on reserves, better housing, signing of the UN Declaration on Indigenous Peoples and a dismantling of the old Indian Affairs department.

(And yet LIE-berals have been in charge for two years now and now native suicides are spiking! Perhaps there is something badly wrong with the LIE-beral approach to native affairs? Just as there are HUGE FLAWS in their fiscal policy as well?)

© Provided by thecanadianpress.com

"Canada remains a work in progress," he said. "For all the mistakes we've made, we remain hopeful."

Trudeau used these examples to bolster his main point here at the UN this week: that Canada is ready to take on complex challenges, at home and abroad, and deserves a seat on the Security Council.

(Canada does NOT need to stroke the vast Trudope ego this way by BUYING a costly seat on the U.N. security council! If LIE-berals can actually find anything useful and relevant to say- a highly dubious possibility- they can say it just as easily and a lot cheaper from the main floor of the U. N. Assembly!)

The rest of the speech focused on climate change, international trade rules aimed at helping workers and his controversial tax reform which he cited as an example of his middle-class-friendly policies.

Trudeau drew applause when he promised to keep supporting the international climate-change treaty. "There is no country on the planet that can walk away from the challenge and reality of climate change." he said.He also promised to stick to his efforts to empower women and girls.

The prime minister's reference to his tax plans drew a Twitter rebuke from Conservative MP Garnett Genuis:

"Unbelievable. Trudeau praising his terrible small business tax grab during UN speech. Save that for home at the very least."

(Our idiot Boy is desperate for any public recognition and respect- he is in such trouble at home and his ego is so vast that he simply must have uit stroked at any price! Our idiot has set tup that Murdered, Missing, Indigenous Women Inquiry and now it is collapsing into chaos! There is no new evidence, no new facts, no action of any sort and yet LIE-berals think that simply announcing that they are listening- and then supplying some LIE-beral poobahs to sit and listen while distraught relatives of the missing vent- through repetitive and tedious testimony that leads in circles will somehow help people!)

(Neither the Trudope clan nor LIE-beral party are people we should turn to for a logical defense of either fair play or democracy! Their entire focus is clinging to power at any price- because they are ENTITLED!)
 

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Yes- they have a huge HATRED of White people! Consider:

Oh how aweful- our prime minster- that idiot Boy Justin is ashamed of Canada- and here is an article that details his shame! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Trudeau tells UN of Canada's shame 1/17

Canadian Press

UNITED NATIONS, N.Y. - Prime Minister Justin Trudeau used a speech to the United Nations on Thursday to probe a source of national shame: the historic struggles of Canada's Indigenous peoples.

He spoke of forced migration and forced family separation in residential schools, which he said left a devastating legacy on reserves to this day. He said Canada came to exist without the consent and participation of the Indigenous populations who had lived there for millenniums. "For indigenous peoples in Canada, the experience was mostly one of humiliation, neglect and abuse," he said.

It was the major theme of his address, which did not gloss over the country's failures and even referred to the international condemnation they have drawn.

But he also looked ahead to at a series of solutions: better infrastructure on reserves, better housing, signing of the UN Declaration on Indigenous Peoples and a dismantling of the old Indian Affairs department.

(And yet LIE-berals have been in charge for two years now and now native suicides are spiking! Perhaps there is something badly wrong with the LIE-beral approach to native affairs? Just as there are HUGE FLAWS in their fiscal policy as well?)

© Provided by thecanadianpress.com

"Canada remains a work in progress," he said. "For all the mistakes we've made, we remain hopeful."

Trudeau used these examples to bolster his main point here at the UN this week: that Canada is ready to take on complex challenges, at home and abroad, and deserves a seat on the Security Council.

(Canada does NOT need to stroke the vast Trudope ego this way by BUYING a costly seat on the U.N. security council! If LIE-berals can actually find anything useful and relevant to say- a highly dubious possibility- they can say it just as easily and a lot cheaper from the main floor of the U. N. Assembly!)

The rest of the speech focused on climate change, international trade rules aimed at helping workers and his controversial tax reform which he cited as an example of his middle-class-friendly policies.

Trudeau drew applause when he promised to keep supporting the international climate-change treaty. "There is no country on the planet that can walk away from the challenge and reality of climate change." he said.He also promised to stick to his efforts to empower women and girls.

The prime minister's reference to his tax plans drew a Twitter rebuke from Conservative MP Garnett Genuis:

"Unbelievable. Trudeau praising his terrible small business tax grab during UN speech. Save that for home at the very least."

(Our idiot Boy is desperate for any public recognition and respect- he is in such trouble at home and his ego is so vast that he simply must have uit stroked at any price! Our idiot has set tup that Murdered, Missing, Indigenous Women Inquiry and now it is collapsing into chaos! There is no new evidence, no new facts, no action of any sort and yet LIE-berals think that simply announcing that they are listening- and then supplying some LIE-beral poobahs to sit and listen while distraught relatives of the missing vent- through repetitive and tedious testimony that leads in circles will somehow help people!)

(Neither the Trudope clan nor LIE-beral party are people we should turn to for a logical defense of either fair play or democracy! Their entire focus is clinging to power at any price- because they are ENTITLED!)
I met a Haida brave this pat summer , an artist . I bought a couple of his prints . During his presentation he was talking of the abuse of the residential schools and how he was forced to leave home to attend school in Alert Bay . He talked of being forced from his family to attend this school. He has his daughter in boarding school onVancouver Island .
 

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I met a Haida brave this pat summer , an artist . I bought a couple of his prints . During his presentation he was talking of the abuse of the residential schools and how he was forced to leave home to attend school in Alert Bay . He talked of being forced from his family to attend this school. He has his daughter in boarding school onVancouver Island .

That`s nice- but tell me how letting natives sit and whine because their corrupt band council is wasting so much money they have to live in shacks? Yes- natives used to own it all. Yes, natives have been treated badly in the past. One thing we KNOW is that you will NOT cure an alcoholic by agreeing that getting drunk is excusable! Somehow natives must understand that trhe ball is in their court at this time! They can pass their days hiding in the woods- drinking and fighting and drugging or they can get up and join the rst of the world!

The Japanese are no less Japanese for having learned to make good cars and electronics. Native reserve life is a disastrous cultural and economic backwater- a hold over from another time that is utterly impractical and totally obsolete! Natives have no reason to love White people but THEY MUST find a way to join the 21st century- or be DOOMED to misery!

Throwing cash -no strings attached- at natives- simply means greater opportunity for band council corruption that is already endemic and it means more opportunity for drinking and drugging and violence. The Haroper govt was on the right track by demanding that band councils post ALL their expenses on line to be honestly audited!

Here is an article illustrating what a hopeless mess LIE-berals have made of the Native Affairs Ministry. With some comments of my own in brackets):

Saskatchewan First Nation wins $4.5-million from federal government

"Mr. Cameron said he hopes an improved relationship between Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and indigenous peoples means the government will settle similar cases at a faster rate.

"Let's not waste thousands and thousands of dollars on legal fees. The decision has been made. Precedent has been set. Therefore compensate these bands a lot sooner than how long it took Beardy's and Okemasis to get a decision," he said."

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...rom-feds-over-1885-rebellion/article33438197/

(OH my, natives are not blind. They have recognized that LIE-berals are frantic to buy votes and are cashing in on every issue that LIE-berals perceive as a weakness or embarrassment. The truth is that LIE-berals would do better if they encourage natives to look to the future rather than dwell in the past!)

(One has only to look at the debacle that is the LIE-beral Inquiry into Murdered and Missing Indigenous Women to recognize the problem. It is certainly tragic that so many native women have gone missing- but it is NOT racism that has prevented killers from being caught! The lack of killers on trial is a function of the awful life natives lead- a woman lost in drug addiction and desperate for another fix and intending to obtain the funds by prostitution is often careless of her situation and thus is vulnerable- and due to her illegal addiction she will be quite discreet about her activities and social contacts- which makes her difficult to track! One has only to look at the recent drastic drop in the number of killers arrested in Toronto to recognize how difficult it can be to track a gang or people who do not want to be followed!)

(The ugly reality is that the LAST thing natives need is to be treated like badly cared for pets! They should not be showered with un-earned gifts when they bark loudly or bite the keepers ankles! Corruption is ENDEMIC on too many reserves and LIE-berals would have a much greater and more beneficial influence on native lives if they knocked off the “poor sad native victim” and started to demand that natives function efficiently for their own sake! Where is natives find gumption and get up and go if LIE-berals perpetuate the myth of native impotence?)

(The 1885 Metis Rebellion was a foolish and irresponsible attempt by Metis and Crees to turn back time and restore about a third of North America to the political state of anarchy existed during the time of the Hudson`s Bay Company administration- which was focused ONLY on the sale of furs and trade goods- there was NO law- as Peter C. Newman chronicles in his trilogy about the Gentleman Company of Adventurers of the Hudson`s Bay! Metis leader Lois Riel was a clever man who was educated by the Jesuits in Montreal- it is just toop bad for Riel that he did not keep up with political and technical advances and ended up judged as a traitor to Canada after botching his creation of an Alberta govt- he took too long and Ottawa beat him to the punch! The Metis Rebellion was a tragic comedy of foolish errors with a large cast of foolish players and does not represent any current political reality! It certainly is Not worth e4.5 million dollars- frankly it aint even worth $4.50! The award to Saskatchewan natives is nothing more than LIE-beral habit of sucking up to whiners and buying votes!)
 

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That`s nice- but tell me how letting natives sit and whine because their corrupt band council is wasting so much money they have to live in shacks? Yes- natives used to own it all. Yes, natives have been treated badly in the past. One thing we KNOW is that you will NOT cure an alcoholic by agreeing that getting drunk is excusable! Somehow natives must understand that trhe ball is in their court at this time! They can pass their days hiding in the woods- drinking and fighting and drugging or they can get up and join the rst of the world!

The Japanese are no less Japanese for having learned to make good cars and electronics. Native reserve life is a disastrous cultural and economic backwater- a hold over from another time that is utterly impractical and totally obsolete! Natives have no reason to love White people but THEY MUST find a way to join the 21st century- or be DOOMED to misery!

Throwing cash -no strings attached- at natives- simply means greater opportunity for band council corruption that is already endemic and it means more opportunity for drinking and drugging and violence. The Haroper govt was on the right track by demanding that band councils post ALL their expenses on line to be honestly audited!

Here is an article illustrating what a hopeless mess LIE-berals have made of the Native Affairs Ministry. With some comments of my own in brackets):

Saskatchewan First Nation wins $4.5-million from federal government

"Mr. Cameron said he hopes an improved relationship between Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and indigenous peoples means the government will settle similar cases at a faster rate.

"Let's not waste thousands and thousands of dollars on legal fees. The decision has been made. Precedent has been set. Therefore compensate these bands a lot sooner than how long it took Beardy's and Okemasis to get a decision," he said."

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...rom-feds-over-1885-rebellion/article33438197/

(OH my, natives are not blind. They have recognized that LIE-berals are frantic to buy votes and are cashing in on every issue that LIE-berals perceive as a weakness or embarrassment. The truth is that LIE-berals would do better if they encourage natives to look to the future rather than dwell in the past!)

(One has only to look at the debacle that is the LIE-beral Inquiry into Murdered and Missing Indigenous Women to recognize the problem. It is certainly tragic that so many native women have gone missing- but it is NOT racism that has prevented killers from being caught! The lack of killers on trial is a function of the awful life natives lead- a woman lost in drug addiction and desperate for another fix and intending to obtain the funds by prostitution is often careless of her situation and thus is vulnerable- and due to her illegal addiction she will be quite discreet about her activities and social contacts- which makes her difficult to track! One has only to look at the recent drastic drop in the number of killers arrested in Toronto to recognize how difficult it can be to track a gang or people who do not want to be followed!)

(The ugly reality is that the LAST thing natives need is to be treated like badly cared for pets! They should not be showered with un-earned gifts when they bark loudly or bite the keepers ankles! Corruption is ENDEMIC on too many reserves and LIE-berals would have a much greater and more beneficial influence on native lives if they knocked off the “poor sad native victim” and started to demand that natives function efficiently for their own sake! Where is natives find gumption and get up and go if LIE-berals perpetuate the myth of native impotence?)

(The 1885 Metis Rebellion was a foolish and irresponsible attempt by Metis and Crees to turn back time and restore about a third of North America to the political state of anarchy existed during the time of the Hudson`s Bay Company administration- which was focused ONLY on the sale of furs and trade goods- there was NO law- as Peter C. Newman chronicles in his trilogy about the Gentleman Company of Adventurers of the Hudson`s Bay! Metis leader Lois Riel was a clever man who was educated by the Jesuits in Montreal- it is just toop bad for Riel that he did not keep up with political and technical advances and ended up judged as a traitor to Canada after botching his creation of an Alberta govt- he took too long and Ottawa beat him to the punch! The Metis Rebellion was a tragic comedy of foolish errors with a large cast of foolish players and does not represent any current political reality! It certainly is Not worth e4.5 million dollars- frankly it aint even worth $4.50! The award to Saskatchewan natives is nothing more than LIE-beral habit of sucking up to whiners and buying votes!)

You have that completely and utterly wrong. Didn't you know that Nations on Thursday to probe a source of national shame: the historic struggles of Canada's Indigenous peoples.

He spoke of forced migration and forced family separation in residential schools, which he said left a devastating legacy on reserves to this day. He said Canada came to exist without the consent and participation of the Indigenous populations who had lived there for millenniums. "For indigenous peoples in Canada, the experience was mostly one of humiliation, neglect and abuse," he said.

It was the major theme of his address, which did not gloss over the country's failures and even referred to the international condemnation they have drawn.

But he also looked ahead to at a series of solutions: better infrastructure on reserves, better housing, signing of the UN Declaration on Indigenous Peoples and a dismantling of the old Indian Affairs department.

(And yet LIE-berals have been in charge for two years now and now native suicides are spiking! Perhaps there is something badly wrong with the LIE-beral approach to native affairs? Just as there are HUGE FLAWS in their fiscal policy as well?)

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"Canada remains a work in progress," he said. "For all the mistakes we've made, we remain hopeful."

Trudeau used these examples to bolster his main point here at the UN this week: that Canada is ready to take on complex challenges, at home and abroad, and deserves a seat on the Security Council.

(Canada does NOT need to stroke the vast Trudope ego this way by BUYING a costly seat on the U.N. security council! If LIE-berals can actually find anything useful and relevant to say- a highly dubious possibility- they can say it just as easily and a lot cheaper from the main floor of the U. N. Assembly!)

The rest of the speech focused on climate change, international trade rules aimed at helping workers and his controversial tax reform which he cited as an example of his middle-class-friendly policies.

Trudeau drew applause when he promised to keep supporting the international climate-change treaty. "There is no country on the planet that can walk away from the challenge and reality of climate change." he said.He also promised to stick to his efforts to empower women and girls.

The prime minister's reference to his tax plans drew a Twitter rebuke from Conservative MP Garnett Genuis:

"Unbelievable. Trudeau praising his terrible small business tax grab during UN speech. Save that for home at the very least."

(Our idiot Boy is desperate for any public recognition and respect- he is in such trouble at home and his ego is so vast that he simply must have uit stroked at any price! Our idiot has set tup that Murdered, Missing, Indigenous Women Inquiry and now it is collapsing into chaos! There is no new evidence, no new facts, no action of any sort and yet LIE-berals think that simply announcing that they are listening- and then supplying some LIE-beral poobahs to sit and listen while distraught relatives of the missing vent- through repetitive and tedious testimony that leads in circles will somehow help people!)

(Neither the Trudope clan nor LIE-beral party are people we should turn to for a logical defense of either fair play or democracy! Their entire focus is clinging to power at any price- because they are ENTITLED!)
 

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You have that completely and utterly wrong. Didn't you know that Nations on Thursday to probe a source of national shame: the historic struggles of Canada's Indigenous peoples.

He spoke of forced migration and forced family separation in residential schools, which he said left a devastating legacy on reserves to this day. He said Canada came to exist without the consent and participation of the Indigenous populations who had lived there for millenniums. "For indigenous peoples in Canada, the experience was mostly one of humiliation, neglect and abuse," he said.

It was the major theme of his address, which did not gloss over the country's failures and even referred to the international condemnation they have drawn.

But he also looked ahead to at a series of solutions: better infrastructure on reserves, better housing, signing of the UN Declaration on Indigenous Peoples and a dismantling of the old Indian Affairs department.

(And yet LIE-berals have been in charge for two years now and now native suicides are spiking! Perhaps there is something badly wrong with the LIE-beral approach to native affairs? Just as there are HUGE FLAWS in their fiscal policy as well?)

© Provided by thecanadianpress.com

"Canada remains a work in progress," he said. "For all the mistakes we've made, we remain hopeful."

Trudeau used these examples to bolster his main point here at the UN this week: that Canada is ready to take on complex challenges, at home and abroad, and deserves a seat on the Security Council.

(Canada does NOT need to stroke the vast Trudope ego this way by BUYING a costly seat on the U.N. security council! If LIE-berals can actually find anything useful and relevant to say- a highly dubious possibility- they can say it just as easily and a lot cheaper from the main floor of the U. N. Assembly!)

The rest of the speech focused on climate change, international trade rules aimed at helping workers and his controversial tax reform which he cited as an example of his middle-class-friendly policies.

Trudeau drew applause when he promised to keep supporting the international climate-change treaty. "There is no country on the planet that can walk away from the challenge and reality of climate change." he said.He also promised to stick to his efforts to empower women and girls.

The prime minister's reference to his tax plans drew a Twitter rebuke from Conservative MP Garnett Genuis:

"Unbelievable. Trudeau praising his terrible small business tax grab during UN speech. Save that for home at the very least."

(Our idiot Boy is desperate for any public recognition and respect- he is in such trouble at home and his ego is so vast that he simply must have uit stroked at any price! Our idiot has set tup that Murdered, Missing, Indigenous Women Inquiry and now it is collapsing into chaos! There is no new evidence, no new facts, no action of any sort and yet LIE-berals think that simply announcing that they are listening- and then supplying some LIE-beral poobahs to sit and listen while distraught relatives of the missing vent- through repetitive and tedious testimony that leads in circles will somehow help people!)

(Neither the Trudope clan nor LIE-beral party are people we should turn to for a logical defense of either fair play or democracy! Their entire focus is clinging to power at any price- because they are ENTITLED!)

Yes, yes, WE KNOW the tragedy that is native life- after all it is white people who have chronicled it in our history books as we certainly can not look to unscrupulous natives such as Atiwapiskat band chief Teresa Spence- notorious for burning through $150 million dollars of Cdn tax money without leaving a SINGLE receipt behind to show what she did with that cash! It is corruption on a fantastic scale that lets a town mayor leading 1500 people to WASTE on such an epic scale!

Natives now face the harsh future- will they die out as drunken, violent, depressed, suicidal and defeated welfare bums lamenting the LOST past or will they find a reason to live and join the REST OF HUMANITY in the 21st century? The choice is stark- misery or life- and following the LIE-beral way means MISERY and suicide! If you think that LIE-berals are capable of BUYING native a bright fututre then you are a bigger fool than I thought you were! LIE-berals care only for buying native votes CHEAPLY!

Consider:

Did anybody happen to see the evening news flash of early June/2017? The one about the native reserve house full of sewage? The BRIEF report was produced by LIE-beral loving news media dedicated to political correctness and ignored more questions than it answered!

First- there were the sad images of a bungalow built on concrete piles in the style common in the north where a house with full basement is not suitable either due to bed rock near the surface or because of issues with permafrost- a full basement can hold in heat and cause the house to literally sink into the rapidly thawing grown! Hence the concrete piles for foundation.

But a house on piles like that has a flaw- the plumbing MUST be very carefully insulated or it WILL freeze since the crawl space under the house is not heated nor insulated! And some pipes must pass through this freezing zone to reach the septic tank system. And frozen pipes are more likely if the family is poor and thus scrimping on heating costs- the lower the temperature in the house- the less heat leaks from the house to keep pipes under the floor from freezing.

News media tells us there are 10 people living in a rather crowded 3 bedroom bungalow and such a crowd might be more than the septic system can handle? So did the sewage pipe either simply froze and ruptured or maybe it clogged up and then froze and ruptured. In any case the pipe broke and raw sewage began leaking and pooling in a disgusting mess UNDER the house.

The residents say it was not too bad till the spring- at which point the mess thawed fully and began to ferment with maggots swarming everywhere and the reek becoming an eye watering horror. The band council was approached for help but none was forthcoming for some reason?

A white business man heard of the family plight and offered to DONATE a new prefab house but things are stalled for reasons the media do not want to discuss. Both business man and band council blame each other for the lack of progress on a new house. Perhaps the businessman wants the band to pay for shipping since he has stepped up and donated the house? And maybe the band figures the house should be shipped for free? WE don’t know and LIE-beral minded news medai seems to think such questions are NOT important?

And there are other questions too- such as why the family did not stop flushing the toilet immediately after the pipe broke? AS a guy who has lived in exactly this sort of house I know that a white guy will not continue using a toilet that is poisoning his house and air! The reserve is out in the forest and the first thing a white guy would do is do `it` in the forest like the bears- or at least go find a bucket that can be used in the heated bathroom and DUMPED in the forest! As for bathing- there is a community centre and why not shower there for a while instead of adding to the cess pool under the house? Sensible people who don’t like living over a foul sewage lagoon generally find ways to avoid adding to the pool daily! But natives are not like white people- they apparently are comfortable just to keep mindlessly adding to the filth and whining because no white people will help them!

And now that warm weather is here, no plumber wants to go wading through all that filth to fix a broken pipe! And there is the value of the bucket method- the swamp under the house will dry out of not added to daily and it will become possible to get under and do repairs without losing your lunch! A plumber might want to put down plastic sheeting to avoid soft and squishy areas but it IS possible to do the repairs without getting mired in filth! And of course white people would not simply abandon a house because it has frozen and ruptured pipes. A house is costly and not to be simply written off on a whim! Not before serious repair efforts are made!

The great majority of houses on a typical reserve are built BY the local people after they have been through govt training programs. They KNOW how to fix and repair the house- if only somebody would give them some motivation! But gee, brand new pipes are so much more pleasant to work with than dirty old ruptured ones so its much better to whine that whites are bigots forcing natives to live in sub standard housing than to take any logical action!